Tekken Devs Nerfed Every Character because of Devil Jin

Devil Jin had a combo scaling bug on floor break stages that we covered in the previous patch comparison video
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[@IAMOP]

This type of tech was present in previous games as well, don't know why they are completely removing stuff like this that adds more nuance and situational awareness to gameplay, this is the third time they have done this I don't think the dev team that worked till Tekken 7 season 2 is present anymore Context : Basically the knock down you see 00:17 is unique and most characters had different setups Devil Jin's set up in this game was buggy You could get a 24+ hit combo, to nerf it devs changed the entire system kzbin.info/www/bejne/o52rqaZ_lL53pMk This has led to the interaction changes shown in the video

[@Zeridium]

All they had to do was nerf the distance scaling (it reset when you ddi the high damage low slump version from heat flop). Even cd+1Uf scaling is broken and now we can't break floors at the end of any heat combo lmao.

[@artsq1550]

Maybe because they are not so professional as they calim to be and as many players perceive them. Maybe because they spent too much time and focus developing battlepass and none were left to actually test their changes. Maybe because they didn't care at all and just wanted to shut some annoying players who dared to disturb His Majesty Harada in twitter.

[@Th_Sheriff]

​@@artsq1550 and yet battlepass is awful too

[@franticrage8827]

Tekken devs don't want you to learn/think just mash mash mash I want to mash on the pad

[@karanpatel8996]

Just curious, what where the first two times?

[@matitone]

same lazy apporach they took when crossups got removed because of akuma

[@ametozukumazu6073]

Nah, it was at least consistent(everyone except Akuma at least), not different reaction per character.

[@thmistrapillay1811]

I was about to mention that T7 patch because both of these patches are horrendous

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

They funniest thing about that patch is they didn’t even fully remove Akuma’s crossups. Akuma just had to do his crossup differently. So a bunch of characters lost their crossups but Akuma still had one.

[@TKMacsta]

@@bigbangbot-SuperSqankproof that Tekken devs don’t even test their own game after patches.

[@BigDaddyWes]

Reeeaaaaal dixk of you to say lazy.

[@durdukyeretahrik]

Relax guys, a wall break upgrade is included in the premium battle pass season 2 update, only 9,99 $.

[@brunonc2604]

false, its 900 TEKKEN COINS

[@Vespyr_]

999 Tekken Coins just to make it more painful.

[@livingashtree1942]

😂😂😂

[@mistashadow]

Jin: I must atone for my sins. Devil Jin: hey buddy, you got one more to add to that list :')

[@sorrow0the4hedgehog]

This is actually in character for devil jin funny enough

[@melvinshine9841]

Why must we all pay for the sins of one devil?

[@justaman4887]

He's not even the issue like akuma before it's just a bug and instead of fixing it they took the laziest approach possible

[@biivii100]

​@@justaman4887And buffed akuma I'm the process.. 😅🤣

[@FalseCrustacean]

They are so concerned with that fight pass that they forgot to test their changes

[@kitezzz360]

pc version still crashes for some people, the game is a mess. I never thought I'd say this as a 'tekken fan' but I'd rather play sf6

[@encrylix9092]

You ever notice that every game could be broken as hell but the battle pass and microtransactions will ALWAYS work? Yeah that’s modern gaming for ya

[@aurelioalvarez8694]

But fight pass is not even mid, its pure recycled trash

[@mugen1813]

You do know you don't have to buy it right. Gameplay wise they did more right then wrong or do we still flame the wrong stuff more?

[@calmcall2763]

@@mugen1813 that wasn't his point at all. he's saying they should focus more on balancing the game and fixing bugs rather than implementing a cash milking feature like battle pass. And dont get me started on the don't buy it bullshit, you do know without the battlepass and the MTX the customization wouldn't be so scuffed and the characters would have all their legacy outfits right? So even if you don't buy shit, it has already 'affected' you.

[@kilink9599]

remember when they nerfed every character because of akuma? heyyy they did it again

[@candyapple5077]

How is that?

[@diceking7469]

​@candyapple5077 At the end of Tekken 7 they nerrfed Akuma crossups game at the wall but in doing so they nerfed every character worst of all Ling she had the worst of since she relied on that the most.

[@Arnuld15Governator]

Pepperidge farm remembers

[@idoshanintendo]

But Akuma players found a away around the nerf, by doing down 1 to ws2 and then demon flip instead of down 1, 2 demon flip. So the nerf was worthless.

[@kilink9599]

@@idoshanintendowhat a joke

[@OnePlus4our]

Balance patch that breaks the game further good job bamco

[@huckleberryjam4975]

Want a better fix? Buy our battle pass so we get more money so our shareholders will throw you a bone and give Kazuya 1 more damage and you get a hat that was free in the previous game but because we can't have enough money that we will make you pay for it anyway. That 1 damage costs money you know. Don't ask us for shit(wholesome kappachungus harada moment)

[@TheAwesomeAccount]

it's supposed to be a "stage gimmick bug fix". But instead of fixing the scaling issue, they just stopped all stages from working. It's not for balance, It's just to cover up an exploit with wall/floor breaks. I still think it's a stupid fix

[@OnePlus4our]

@@TheAwesomeAccount in that case it might be even worse intentionally doing these type of bandaid fixes sucks

[@bilbobaggins7075]

bunch of idiot clowns at bamco

[@AegisRick]

Because Lars' DEN 3 could be rage arted, now we can't sidestep any of his options. They solve their problems in the most backwards ways.

[@Zachebi]

Meanwhile its okay losing 1/3 of my health to one button because i went for a jab at the wrong time

[@_Deez]

You can step SEN 2 and SEN 3. Not that it really matters since SEN 3 isn't used much and risking stepping SEN 2 isn't worth it when SEN 1 will be the most commonly used option, and even if you step it, he ends up in an awkward position that you might miss the punish on. I'm a Lars main and while I agree with the intention of the change, they deff should've made a different change that achieves the same thing.

[@bourbon4043]

At least we got working battle pass. Aren't you excited guys?

[@AKTalal]

Hell yeah. Im ready to empty my wallet on stupid skins

[@kamil666555]

For that tekken 7 garbage yeah no thanks

[@crustman5982]

I can’t wait to unlock default blender sphere

[@BeretBay]

​@@crustman5982 Calling the legendary "ball" item a default blender sphere is a disservice to mankind.

[@crustman5982]

@@BeretBayyou’re right I’m sorry how could I have been so blind. I will hereby refer to its correct title “ball”

[@izzygood]

As a Zafina main, I love how she is immediately used as the "I can't believe they nerfed this character" example.

[@darksiders2002]

As Zafina main I still suffer.

[@dimitri4457]

As a new Zafina main in 8, I’m over joyed that my winter soldier hand doesn’t kill me anymore

[@Alexavian]

She's not weak, just different. The way they nerfed her only applies to tournament players and I mean good ones. That doesn't apply to you.

[@avoidthevo1d]

Glad nerfes impacted her too, fkng hate Zafina

[@LordSevla]

@@Alexavian She IS weak. Unless you are some goddamn crazy pro player, just look at the top of the ladder and you will see.

[@LudFoesBeanie]

This game is off to a ROUGH start. May patch needs to be INCREDIBLE

[@GIRTHMASTER-vx7np]

Bryan mains rejoice! This is a buff in disguise. Wall breaking is to our disadvantage. All I see is Taunt B4 opportunities.

[@adeebh1238]

That’s what’s up Bryan mains are so smart they detect shit like that right away 🗿

[@thyme3972]

You are so right

[@sky-oq5mr]

There is another problem tho. Down spike moves can no be tech rolled because of jun. If you try to do the tornado combo sometimes they go grounded as well which is inconsistent.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@sky-oq5mr That's fine. Your generic grabs still floor bounce anyway.

[@sky-oq5mr]

@@Geheimnis-c2e it's not fine. We paid 70+ dollars. Imagine you paid a plumber and there was still a leak. Would you still say "That's fine. Atleast the other pipes aren't leaking."?

[@sparklingcutie]

They're removing rewarding things, I just can't this is shit

[@doomdesire3460]

Took effort to consistently get cd1 at wall with djin What a waste of effort

[@hnsa3203]

A baby-ass list of changes and it breaks the game. Can't wait for the first "Big" balance patch coming out in the next month or so!

[@SamudroEntertainment]

This first year of T8 will continue to make heads spin Cause remember with every Tekken before, they always had some time in the arcades to figure out balancing. Now that arcades are dead and Tekken went straight to PC and Consoles, they don’t have that luxury anymore.

[@AU3Golden]

Tekken 7 kind of invalidates this viewpoint when you consider that it kept getting updates and "fixes" like these for years even after the game released for home platforms though

[@Jetanium]

​@@AU3Goldenwhat...?

[@BronzeAgePepper]

​@@Jetanium what is confusing about that statement? are you just pretending to be confused trying to defend Bamco's greed and incompetence? No arcade release for T8 definitely doesn't excuse their piss-poor job making post-launch updates.

[@Jetanium]

@@BronzeAgePepper I'm legitimately confused. Of course the updates are gonna follow a different path, it's straight to console vs arcade. I don't know what he or you is getting at...

[@Gamegalgegod]

​​@@AU3Golden Wouldnt say that invalidates anything though if we're talking about the state of the game at launch not throughout the lifecycle. They had 2 years worth of arcade data to balance, and the home release was considered pretty solid for balance for the first couple of years. That level of success was probably not in the cards and for the first time they had to work out how to maintain a longer lasting product. They still had the initial 2 years in the arcade to work out the balance before worldwide release. The problem is only worse now because system and mechanic changes from T6/TT2 to T7 were not as drastic as they are with T8 + minimal player data to test things out before release. It doesn't excuse the current situation (which isnt even balancing for them and just resolving unintended interactions until post EVO JP) but this is how they've been balancing their games until now.

[@SGHNTZ]

Instead of balancing their game, they removing unique stage interactions... Nice!

[@ababyharpseal6534]

Bandai Namco, don’t immediately piss off your core player base challenge (DIFFICULTY: IMPOSSIBLE)

[@thmistrapillay1811]

This is almost as bad as the Akuma Nerf-non-Nerf they did in T7 S4

[@anotherperson3450]

this update trippy af

[@ametozukumazu6073]

This game feels like my uni. programming project. Everything has it's own logic😂

[@godl3ss]

the shop and the pass take priority smh i thought you knew by now.

[@famisepta7308]

Lets remember this moment till 5 years later. And i wanna see how we all reminisce and comparing about "Tekken 8 release version" vs "Tekken 8 now"

[@Vespyr_]

All they had to do was nerf one character instead of making a sweeping systematic change like this. Unbelievable they took this route.

[@perkedel7558]

That bryan db1+2 nerf really hurts me, i hate this shit

[@kamil666555]

They been drinking to much sake in Harada Bar

[@runecreed2265]

just to mention they confirmed this is a bug and are working on a fix also pathetic that this slipped past Q&A, but i guess eyes are on the MTX atm ah no, that's not it either- since your battle pass wont give you unlocks if the opponent plugs ah, but i guess they'll fix the plugging now right

[@DaAxiomatic]

All for the balance... ...ciaga!

[@Raynolds007]

Loving the Tekken 3 sound track, it had the best soundtrack of any Tekken to date.

[@IAMOP]

Personally I really like Tag 2 sound tracks, there was so much variety

[@Raynolds007]

I never got into the tag series, but i might give it a try one day

[@ralleks]

Facts

[@SmokinSkyzoStyle]

Meanwhile pluggers can still play. But thanks we all think that wallbreak was a big problem in this game

[@sehhmie5483]

Bamco hates fun

[@ryantheradical]

It kinda just makes me not even wanna play.. I liked how everything felt extreme.. now because of one character we have to unlearn and relearn the game

[@Zakillah]

first they took flipped spikes away because of Jun, now this. they cant be so dense to not be aware that universal changes will affect more then one character...

[@Jaydubb1031]

They didn’t wanna actually fix the problem so they said “we’ll just nerf everyone”

[@MDSlayerTK]

This game is gonna take 6 to 8 months to get polished. Nice.

[@Tk.Bogarts]

at best

[@thatguysho227]

For Tekken standards 6 to 8 months is pretty decent.

[@kemalerdemsahin410]

Dlc characters will break the game somehow dont worry

[@b0ost3rz]

it will be free to play by this time

[@vietnamsemonky4082]

@@b0ost3rzlmao that’s never happening

[@deepankar_gautam]

@IAMOP i dont know you going to see this, but I was actually fighting with you with Eddy. 😅😅 . Great matches with you. Thanks.

[@Badlevhusky37]

They STILL NERFING LEROY!! It’s a crime!!!!😂😂

[@ALIVE-co]

YES! They finally nerfed Leroy

[@feelSmoothie]

why did they remove the wall break on bryan? literally playing tekken 7.5 and then this, it's even worse then 7

[@chickenpizza5703]

Bryan’s heatsmash is pretty shit can’t lie

[@riperkiller9787]

Cry about it

[@championredd]

He def playing tekken 8😂

[@justhit6673]

As long as Bryan has b4 i don't want to hear any bryan players complain

[@biivii100]

​@@chickenpizza5703It unfortunately is. 🥲

[@FWCrash]

I have been saying this since the CBT cheat engine leaks. DVJ should just not have access to heavens gate during double heat burst/dash combos + nerf the scaling of it. Thats all they had to do, and of course somehow resolve the pushback reset on floor break. Instead, they cocked every chars routes

[@Allen_Rowe]

That's what I thought, reduce the scaling on the heaven gate. Although I also think walls that break extensions are dumb, getting combo for 20s is fun only when you are doing the combo.

[@TheUnique69able]

Devil Jin deserved that you pos

[@jayldbrk1417]

Heaven's gate was always fine to begin with, y'all just hatin.

[@Heat-u5v]

My Lee already wasn't able to floor break with f3+4, after throw so i don't lost so much (but in T7 he was able to)

[@Dyleniz]

Yeaa but we even lost the ws33 tech after acid rain to floor break :

[@somesandman8328]

this game used to be free flowing

[@cekodokdurian]

Wait, arent these just spatial awareness tech? Like in T7 if heihachi got a knockdown near a breakable wall, lets say f1+2 the headbutt, He can do a follow up db1+2 to break the wall then screw for max damage. What give harada?!

[@IAMOP]

Heihachi ws1 db1+2 as well

[@cekodokdurian]

@@IAMOP yeah, and that! I swear man, the more we joke how they prioritize monetization the more true it become.

[@sehhmie5483]

@@cekodokdurianits so funny how they keep removing many features that supposed to be the core gameplay like double heat smash, bounce, spikes, and now wall/floor breaks tech, just a little more gameplay nerf until we get tekken 7 2

[@cekodokdurian]

@@sehhmie5483 and we not even halfway in season 1. We just started.

[@ApexFunplayer]

Drag actually got some substantial wall buffs.

[@Dyleniz]

I hate legacy changes like this man, Tech catches and jump over tech was so cool till they removed if and only akuma has it in T7 not they doing the off axis spike oki and combo routes because of junand dvj again with another lazy way to balance shit

[@TheFightingGentleman]

I guess this keeps the devil jin mains from crying...as much?

[@mosswine5417]

Just requires a cleaner hit instead free stage breaks when started off with a combo.

[@pocketoniofficial]

Man, I'm ngl, but I have to be one of the only legacy players who is totally okay with this being a system change vs them trying to just nerf DJ.

[@cjbee3839]

I am 100% with you on this one. I had to take a serious break from this game because all the tech and skill I could muster just wouldn’t match up against the insanely long uninterruptible streams of combo damage from all these wall/floor breaks. I miss no wall maps.

[@pocketoniofficial]

@cjbee3839 I don't mind extra damage as long as the intent is to make it difficult to obtain and right now it is pretty crazy easy to get extended combos. Also, same, I have to take periodical breaks tbh and really, I haven't even been on since Eddy dropped. I am considering waiting until evo Japan to play again just to see if they drop another patch

[@ibrahim42-42]

I know their approach is lazy but all these nerfs make sense due risk reword ratio to be honest 😅

[@slytorres5685]

At least maybe in T8 S2 one of certain characters default costume will no longer have nerf moves Iike Kazuya Default 2, Devil Jin Default 3 and probably the Tekken 7 Jin costumes

[@inzanity490]

I don't understand why they didn't just disable the transition to throw in the cd 1 if it hits grounded. That was the only part that allowed the floor break after a grounded hit.

[@themaplepony]

Is there a consistent logic to these patch changes? They all seem like basically the same scenario yet some characters gain a wall/floor break where others lose one?

[@IAMOP]

1. All the stage interactions that had the knock down shown got removed 2. Additionally the forward momentum tornado spins are wall breaking due to some oversight from point 1 changes

[@mr.soystein7849]

​@@IAMOPso even the "bug fix" is bugged? Are you kidding me?

[@karanbraria93]

I agree with this change. If it’s not a complete launch, the walls shouldn’t break. Some characters were getting extra advantage out of this

[@Arktik1st]

To fix this issue, next patch will nerf Leroy

[@CxldHxarts]

I keep getting a bug where certain throws that break the floor just don't break the floor, or heat dash launchers not launching or not even giving guaranteed followups

[@setsunaquanta8795]

Looks like we need to find a new ways to break the walls and floors.

[@kealtusad]

How is DVJ (and Devil Kazuya) bug with Heaven's Gate on 2 maps have even the slightest connection to the other characters? Why everyone starts blaming some characters like "oh I hate them so much because of them they broke my beloved characters!"? It's clearly devs pure execution. Also, did you know that there was a floorbreak bug for player 2 on Jin's Mind map as it wouldn't break for P2 in the final round before he connects a hit off combo? Why not name the video like "because of the fix of one map they broke every character" then?

[@Allen_Rowe]

Agreed

[@IAMOP]

Because they addressed devil jin directly in their presentation? Why do you guys assume everyone hates your character bro 💀 I play devil jin as well

[@maximumdeejay]

Because it's his bug and his bug only.

[@kealtusad]

​@@maximumdeejayhello? Did you read the patch notes? Kazuya had the same CD1 kind of reset in his Devi form...

[@kealtusad]

​@@IAMOPin the new patch, second row of the changelog that is about Tornado behavior at the wall, they explain that it actually caused these inconsistent things by the wall. And not the adjustments to DVJ/Kazuya CD1. Both characters have nothing to do with the unintentional wall behavior.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

I remember when they did this same thing for Akuma and then everyone got nerfed, except for Akuma. Fun times.

[@tex4266]

I was already wondering wtf is going on in practice mode bruh. Wtf Bamco.

[@Lupi_Anubis]

Meh! Namco is damned if they do, and damned if they don't. People have done nothing but complain about how overpowered all characters are, and how much damage they can do. And when Namco has nerfed the overall combo oki reset, and damage possibilities, people are complaining about that too.

[@SesoKoza-ut4bd]

I agree with you. The nerfs help the more defensive characters who couldn't translate well into the aggressive design of t8. Before this it was combo combo wallbreak combo combo heat combo and death. You could do that with so many of the easier characters so people started talking about broken etc without realising how easy the game became due to wall breaks

[@8minato]

They either are clueless about how the game is played or is intentional nerf to everyone.

[@henrynguyen4315]

In a way it nerfs combo damage throughout the board, in that sense is a good thing guess thats the only silver lining. Combo damage as it stands now is stupidly absurd.

[@m.yudiyudi2316]

i was happy at first, cause now Steve wall combo more consistent than before, but after seing this video, i was like "why they removed it? is it just because of one character? why they didn't just nerf the damage?". sorry for asking because i just don't get it, so we can't do floor or wall break in middle of combo? so what kind of situation that allow us to do floor or wall break?

[@Xardyn9412]

Wall breaking tornados should not be included here. In fact, as I said before in CheeseYoni's video, pre-patch, you had to be EXTREMELY close range for the wall to actually break. While this sucks for most wall break stages, this is actually better for Elegant Palace and Sanctum.

[@IAMOP]

All the stage interactions are affected by this change

[@kitezzz360]

wall damage, combo damage in this game in general is just way too high. When every combo feels like at least 50% of your health and goes on for days, yeah it's kinda crap. Game has turned into marvel

[@KraYarK]

As a Bryan main, these changes hurt.

[@Myst1c_OW]

dude they nerfed his cd1 at the wall too it does 11 less damage now on low wall slump unscaled... i get making it not floor break anymore since nobody else has broken options like that and they want you to use his bf 2,1,4 but why remove the damage from his technical wall ender? thats so lame mannnnnnn

[@AllenJohn]

00:43 So only Law has a wall break, which inturn kind of useless as he can't have a proper follow up combo

[@IAMOP]

Wall break shouldn't happen in that scenario, the tornado bound moves with forward momentum are bugged now due to oversight in stage interaction changes

[@kevinmatheus2718]

maybe a stupid question, but how do You break walls and floors now with these nerfs?

[@tongpoo8985]

wow, that steve one is ridiculous. Why didn't they just adjust the properties on DJ's heaven's gate instead of making system-wide changes? Their development team management is completely incompetent. They'd be fired if they worked in a software industry that wasn't game development.

[@TheKnightyFox]

Finally Leroy nerfed again lmao

[@Giraffinator]

"I DON'T CARE HOW MANY CHARACTERS I HAVE TO KILL AS LONG AS DJ IS ONE OF THEM!"

[@solidsnake2k7]

Nice Law got a buff.

[@lsv47]

Meh. It's bad, but not really game changing, imo. I am more concerned about whether Bryan's 1+2 still breaks walls though, that is annoying. Or if any Bryan mains could educate me on the true sauce for his wall combos on the Mishima stage *wink wonk*

[@sniffs_]

Opt for df2,1 instead of 1+2 if you don't want to break the wall

[@lsv47]

@@sniffs_ does Tek tek after df1 2 connect and scale the same 1+2 1?

[@sniffs_]

@@lsv47 it connect but does slightly less damage than 1+2

[@nathanstrother788]

You can also b3 sway cancel into tek tek. I think its the same damage as 1+2 less hits less scaling

[@lsv47]

Aight, either df 1 2 or b3f tek. Thank you dudes, y'all what's right with the community. o/

[@Wizard_Lizard_]

Tekken 8 is quickly falling apart. They need to truly fix the current issues with haste.

[@DaPhenomAce]

Nerf everyone or buffed walks and floors?

[@justaman4887]

That's because they took the lazy approach every time they needed to fix something

[@rellbandoo6572]

I miss off axis jump over tech😔

[@azazel7505]

If my reina 10 feet wall breaks are gone Imma flip

[@TheUnique69able]

Can someone explain to 😂why they even thought of nerfing devil Jin in the first place?

[@Saili_Orig]

Finally they made the walls/doors stronger

[@ejune98]

This is just even more confusing

[@ConstantUNTILisnt]

I am not a scholar in wallbreak mechanics but it used to be obvious: u hit hard on to wall, it breaks, now maybe it breaks. Like why

[@hecksters423]

The hell happened to the game you loved, Harada....

[@endersteve3843]

I was going to be mad at the patch but I got distracted at 0:04. This stage has a SECOND wall break?!! I have never, or ever seen someone go down there. I have literally never seen that building down there.

[@WackJack187]

We want hazards in the game but we dont want any characters using them for anything other than 40 damage

[@Emir.]

“We want it to be easy for everyone”

[@woahthatscrazy19]

cheer up guys, we got a battlepass to grind 😀

[@konstantdrachenfels5446]

Great change, anything that lowers dmg output or shortens the combos is a massive plus

[@holyvision_v5051]

DVJ is innocent.

[@finnt4937]

Guys. Did it ever occur to you, that maybe they wanted to nerf everyone? I mean b+1 into fullcombo at the wall? Didnt everyone complain the damage and therefore variance is too high, because of eating. A full combo in situations like this? Did it ever ocxur to you, that maybe they did not want neef akuma specifically, nut EVERYONE? Because … who is not in tekken8 ? And are tech catches in tekken 8 ?

[@TerryGarcia]

Cant wait for Garou 2. Tekken is getting ridiculous.

[@fancyhermit7]

Since Devil Jin was the biggest offender everyone got some adjustments to the game

[@RetroWrathX13B]

What’s different about Jet Upper?

[@larevolution13]

HARADA stacking Ls lately

[@Goldlibra18]

This makes sense to me tbh, I agree with it

[@wollahwollah1060]

Then what's the use of those wall break icons to those moves? Misleading much? Da heck Namco

[@ardaoguzhan8181]

Not enough Leroy nerfs

[@Diggedaudau]

I hope it will be the same as before soon..

[@dominicthesaiyan]

OK, so they didn’t Nerf it because Jen was OP but they Nerf it because devil Jin was broken

[@aFutureSelf]

This just means you have to relearn what works for your gameplan and character in back-to-the-wall and wall break situations. Not a big deal

[@jetaime4431]

No, especially when you have a work, a family, and a tons of option character.

[@SesoKoza-ut4bd]

​@@jetaime4431 hey it's just a game. Even if you rank up it's not gonna benefit your irl standing. Like who r u gonna brag about TGO irl except maybe friends that play the game. Maybe we need to slow down

[@jetaime4431]

@@SesoKoza-ut4bd where did I mention ranks ? I don't care about rank, I care about my game plan and the time I spend on building it. I think you projected yourself on me bro, but I'm not sharing your "rank issue".