TEKKEN GUIDE | What is Buffering and How Does it Help

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@BigDaddyWes
@BigDaddyWes 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing missing in this explanation is how you can input a button, hold it down, and press a second button to get a move. Like, you can do 1+2 by doing a 1 jab, holding the button down, and pressing 2 while in the jab animation to get an immediate 1+2. You don't have to re-input the 1 if you're still holding the button down. This is very helpful for multi-throws and some tough combos.
@tigermask4346
@tigermask4346 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this for kings chain throws since tekken 3 💯💯💯
@EternalSilverDragon
@EternalSilverDragon 2 жыл бұрын
This, and also why we use the word "buffer" and what it means. Inputting information to be stored before it gets used. Just like when a video is buffering, it is storing information so it can play the video smoothly in one go.
@twitchoff1114
@twitchoff1114 2 жыл бұрын
That's called button buffering and what mainman explained is input buffering, but yeah you are right it should have been included.
@Merumya
@Merumya 2 жыл бұрын
you might add: If you perform a string that consists of, say, 1, 2, 1 and the character doesnt have a 1, 2, 2 or 1, 1, 2 string, you can just start with 1 and mash 1+2 to finish it. Lucky chloes kickstring in the air after certain launchers, for example, can be done by mashing ki-charge, instead of getting the right 3 buttons one after the other. Knowing this for your character can also make some combos easier.
@vredxiii5551
@vredxiii5551 2 жыл бұрын
Ok i did not know this for multis thank you sir
@JIX9ISLER1986
@JIX9ISLER1986 2 жыл бұрын
The 10hit combo strings are a good example of button buffering
@LucasHenrique-vu9yj
@LucasHenrique-vu9yj 2 жыл бұрын
This guide is a certified Aris classic
@CjExpendable27
@CjExpendable27 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was gonna say, Thanks Lord Aris
@JIX9ISLER1986
@JIX9ISLER1986 2 жыл бұрын
hey alright
@ReeceyOne
@ReeceyOne 2 жыл бұрын
Keep it down
@lugit36
@lugit36 2 жыл бұрын
Hey nice 7 word essay
@marcjohnson1665
@marcjohnson1665 2 жыл бұрын
This is very well explained. I've told a good number of people about this over the past 20 years and their whole game got better. It's not hugely obvious and a lot of people never figure this out on their own. I personally couldn't do King's multi-parts on PS controllers without buffering way back when. I still kinda have to buffer 1+4 or 2+3 moves by holding one button down first if I'm being honest. There's a whole art to concealing what you're buffering... Julia has many strats based off just that. Faking neutral... ha!
@blindvybz941
@blindvybz941 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video I bought this game two weeks a go and I 'm currently at warrior rank, I still have a lot to learn I love it, it's like when I was starting to learn Mortal Kombat for the first time. Definitely an educational video
@spacedoutfoo
@spacedoutfoo 2 жыл бұрын
The buffering made me think of MK11 haha, Tekken & MK are so fun
@francoGomez111
@francoGomez111 2 жыл бұрын
Damn bro you are a god, you might become better than knee in a month
@栗栖が萌じゃない
@栗栖が萌じゃない 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, in my first two weeks I'm like stuck in intiate 😭💀
@victorfranca85
@victorfranca85 2 жыл бұрын
oh, you have many other videos you need to watch.
@Aurongroove
@Aurongroove 2 жыл бұрын
People underestimate Yoshi’s Rage drive for this reason., it is i14 BUFFERABLE launching mid that tracks both ways. It’s basically devil-form-Kazuya’s EWGF except more damage, is buffer-able, has good tracking and can be used mid combo for an additional tailspin. Or, used as a -14 launch punish. Slept on best RD and best move in the entire game.
@Aurongroove
@Aurongroove 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! How lucky! One, singular, congratulation!
@Youtubebinger
@Youtubebinger 2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation for buffering are command throws I think. As an example you can buffer Eddy’s rodeo after his DF 2 slaps or his DF 4 leg hit.
@anabstractworld
@anabstractworld 2 жыл бұрын
Electrics and death fists not being bufferable is not necessarily because of the "stance" and moreover because they require a motion input. Directional buttons, attack buttons or a combination of them can be buffered and the game will execute your order at the exact frame your character isn't recovering anymore. Which is why you can do a jet upper or non-motion-input requiring punishes after a block. But in case of a DP or QCF what is the game even supposed to buffer? That's a subsequent order of inputs that can't be "prepared" the way a single input could.
@RustieVI
@RustieVI 2 жыл бұрын
i really hope main man see this, the 2 new tutorial videos are so informative and well done, and he articulates himself in such a expert way, im hoping the next subject covered is animation cancel/ special cancel. amazing stuff TMM
@TheCloud115
@TheCloud115 2 жыл бұрын
I knew this was in my head for certain moves but i didnt know It was actually a thing, im impressed😮
@jumpfold
@jumpfold 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel bro Electric mastery takes a very long time it's a learning process always
@ymb9shinzou743
@ymb9shinzou743 2 жыл бұрын
You can release buffer the forward input of an electric if you are recovering from an attack.
@What-kn1sr
@What-kn1sr 2 жыл бұрын
I main Yoshi, and he has lot of buffer. Most common is b2,1 to 1+2 into kin.
@anubis_fgc
@anubis_fgc 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion that’s not quite a buffer as much as a cancel. There are only specific moves that allow an instant transition to KIN (b2, b21, ff3, SS4 etc.), and I would call that “cancelling into KIN” (because the recovery animation of the move is interrupted by the stance). Yoshi does have bufferable stuff though, something that works in low ranks is 22 into qcb1+2 (throw). d,db,b can be input while the 22 animation is active. =)
@What-kn1sr
@What-kn1sr 2 жыл бұрын
@@anubis_fgc b2 into fqcf 2 is also another buffer.. Even most of the kin moves are buffered.
@krunchy8118
@krunchy8118 2 жыл бұрын
@@What-kn1sr tru dat. Also, I think you meant cd2 not fqcf2 right?
@What-kn1sr
@What-kn1sr 2 жыл бұрын
@@krunchy8118 coming from old tekken game cd2 is new for me. But yeah I meant cd2
@Akivili420
@Akivili420 2 жыл бұрын
I love when MainMan is so technical with the moves.
@DamageXcaling
@DamageXcaling 2 жыл бұрын
Crouchdash cannot be buffered, it's the reason why electrics are the hardest punisher moves in the game
@krunchy8118
@krunchy8118 2 жыл бұрын
1:00 Calls in an jet with jet noises😂
@mrastronomical67
@mrastronomical67 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add to the Bryan buffering.. you can really really buffer his taunt if you know what you're doing.. like his Homing 1+2 - you can just hold the 1 button even after the hit/blocked hit and just tap 3+4 and you'll get taunt at the perfect range provided the opp doesn't move.. HOWEVER TJU is still harder than the electric imo.. and getting his taunt to be homing in higher ranks is even harder. That 16f Window is there for eh .. a fraction of a second. not only that - if you mess up - here comes some bozo char with a HIgh evasive launcher... If you watch inkog play he buffers 3+4 dam near the whole match this way he only taps 1 to get the taunt when he needs it
@quyphuongtay
@quyphuongtay 9 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this explain, I came to Tekken 8 from Dead or Alive series, I tried demo with Paul and found something wrong with input and perform his move like death fist, I'm trying to find out what is wrong, now I know Dead or Alive input system was always buffering in every moves! You can input a ton of notation during animation and it still perform that move, while in Tekken some moves can buffering and some moves are not allow it! Some moves require stance (neutral stance, crouching, dash), and some require complete of animation before perform!
@Kwuivery
@Kwuivery 2 жыл бұрын
He should’ve included buffering as in holding 1 button down and pressing and different button creates a blank plus blank button, like if u press 1 for a jab and u want to do heihachi 1+2 u would press 2 while holding one and you’ll get it
@ryanhass8716
@ryanhass8716 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that's where he was going with this vid at first. I remember learning that shit from that ATP video a while back, really helped my gameplay out.
@vlrginizer927
@vlrginizer927 2 жыл бұрын
Mainman just did a good guide without editing and reading a script
@strafniki1080
@strafniki1080 2 жыл бұрын
BASIC GUIDE YES
@narveYT
@narveYT 2 жыл бұрын
People do buffering a lot but don't even know that they're doing it. It's a classic.
@giantswingallday7001
@giantswingallday7001 2 жыл бұрын
I remembered doing RDC (Rolling Death Cradle) 80% most of the time due to button buffering.
@juandelacruz4096
@juandelacruz4096 2 жыл бұрын
Showing the command history would've been helpful
@SOS1G_
@SOS1G_ 2 жыл бұрын
Can u also make a guide on kicharge ? I feel like its an important mechanic overlooked by most
@zeldamage001
@zeldamage001 2 жыл бұрын
Tekken 5 music LETS GOOO!
@ickerolig
@ickerolig 2 жыл бұрын
To me, (4:45) deathfist is harder than electric. Dunno if it is because I play with a square gate and it needs a quarter circle or if it is because failing the input fucks you up hard compared to the options in wavedash.
@Hi_itsRaph
@Hi_itsRaph 2 жыл бұрын
That track though
@tsumatsannel
@tsumatsannel 2 жыл бұрын
if the death fist cannot be buffered what can I punish with it? and also the RD death fist.
@tonyl9636
@tonyl9636 2 жыл бұрын
Are attacks that are done from a stance the only ones that you can't buffer?
@AnakNgputa-c2v
@AnakNgputa-c2v Жыл бұрын
Can you buffer the dash to hit a next move when you're performing some juggles or combos?
@BakedConjurer5
@BakedConjurer5 2 жыл бұрын
this is a fascinating topic
@giulio6232
@giulio6232 2 жыл бұрын
i'm new to the game (been watching T7 tournaments on YT and now i've finally bought my Xbox and T7) and due to the unbufferable PEWGF it's almost impossible for me to learn Kazuya's CH df2 + launching PEWGF 😭
@rickandnaruto
@rickandnaruto 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this half way to realize why am I watching this? I know how to buffer as a Fujin...
@lordofrage3117
@lordofrage3117 2 жыл бұрын
So what's about button buffering, not the motion input? When you hold 3 for example, then press 4 and you get a 3+4. Why it's not always working? My exact problem, that i don't have a bind for 3+4, and AK chain throw not working((( i'm about 3+4 3+4 1+2 the sleeper if i'm correct.
@Toboe0818
@Toboe0818 2 жыл бұрын
Can you only buffer the movement inputs of a move and you still need to time the respective attack buttons to complete the buffered move at the end of the initial move's recovery? Or can you buffer all inputs of a move during the animation of a leading move and once that move completes, the buffered move will just come out automatically?
@davidparry5310
@davidparry5310 2 жыл бұрын
The former.
@Toboe0818
@Toboe0818 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidparry5310 Ahh okay. I wish MMSWE touched upon that point because it almost looks like you can just buffer the whole move and it'll just come out as soon as the first move ends. There still is a small level of timing involved with this tech.
@shadilamesbutr8239
@shadilamesbutr8239 2 жыл бұрын
Similar concept to Street Fighter’s charge characters.
@etrigan966
@etrigan966 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference in King and AK's buffer grab timings, I genuinely never fail to buffer King's grabs but AK especially GS is so much stricter I feel like
@keithparker7445
@keithparker7445 2 жыл бұрын
Bamco needs to hire you to teach them how to play their games
@CephlonMayngrum
@CephlonMayngrum 2 жыл бұрын
Or they can pay him nothing and just watch his channel
@CephlonMayngrum
@CephlonMayngrum 2 жыл бұрын
Or they can pay him nothing and just watch his channel
@tzodearf2596
@tzodearf2596 2 жыл бұрын
Is that why seemingly motionless characters get counterhit?
@nicotaborda1877
@nicotaborda1877 2 жыл бұрын
wich Paul moves are bufferables?
@michaellee7630
@michaellee7630 2 жыл бұрын
wow, if only tekken had some kind of guide for something like this about the game, within the game software................
@xxsomaa
@xxsomaa 2 жыл бұрын
I mean.... it doesn't only apply to tekken.....
@michaellee7630
@michaellee7630 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxsomaa strange right? what if there were other video games that had some kind of section or feature that explained this kind of stuff....
@xxsomaa
@xxsomaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellee7630 I mean you play other fighting games right? Weird you haven't picked up on this concept
@michaellee7630
@michaellee7630 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxsomaa i know! woe is me! thank the creator mister sweede for showing us how to play tekken! because the game simply doesn't tell you.
@xxsomaa
@xxsomaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellee7630 its not just exclusive to tekken though... you can buffer in any fighting game to do combos. You've never heard people throw the word around or tried a combo in game that was hard to execute and wondered how to do it? Don't blame tekken for your shortcomings lol because it's not only exclusive to Tekken.
@hydrowolf363
@hydrowolf363 2 жыл бұрын
King players UNITE!!!!
@King-mf1wo
@King-mf1wo 2 жыл бұрын
Good job my kids keep on spamming those giant swings and making people plug you make me happy
@IvanOrdell
@IvanOrdell 2 жыл бұрын
@@King-mf1wo I swear they should make a longer break window for that shit
@foreveruseless1292
@foreveruseless1292 2 жыл бұрын
Pog
@AJ-me1zy
@AJ-me1zy 2 жыл бұрын
@@IvanOrdell They did, In Tekken Tag 2 You had a smaller window to break throws.
@hydrowolf363
@hydrowolf363 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-me1zy Glad someone knows. Nerfing throws nerfs King!
@tobykassulke2385
@tobykassulke2385 2 жыл бұрын
Can i buffer the divorce? She took my kids.
@OPJ_Wojtek
@OPJ_Wojtek 2 жыл бұрын
I may missed it, but how do we know, a certain move is bufforable?
@Kjernekar
@Kjernekar 2 жыл бұрын
You test it out
@FullAdDariusBR
@FullAdDariusBR 2 жыл бұрын
2:09 LMAO
@erfan9749
@erfan9749 2 жыл бұрын
Can you buffer Dragunov's running 2 while blocking?
@SrAlanBriz
@SrAlanBriz 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run while blocking? (No) There's your answer
@Tdunk1968
@Tdunk1968 2 жыл бұрын
U can buffer the first forward input, then press ff2 after u recover from the animation. The timing is very strict and u could easily get a raw ff2 which is punishable.
@user-eq5yr6oe8h
@user-eq5yr6oe8h 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just here for the algorithm
@itsyourboii5591
@itsyourboii5591 2 жыл бұрын
Can we buffer with geese?
@r.o.o.k.
@r.o.o.k. 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah quite a bit. Akuma relies on buffering the most. All of his combos need multiple buffers in them.
@ConstantUNTILisnt
@ConstantUNTILisnt 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly eveything Geese do is buffered except for instant air fireball
@MouMouhDS2
@MouMouhDS2 2 жыл бұрын
Why he is compare electric with jet upper, of cours electric is more difficult to punish with, but electric is way better than jet upper, +5 on bloc track both side and very good to use as keep out, you can’t do that with Bryan jet upper, imagin you can buffer electric 😂
@crazzyman-nf6tx
@crazzyman-nf6tx 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@Tdunk1968
@Tdunk1968 2 жыл бұрын
U can buffer the forward input in a pewgf idk what mainman is talking about lol. TJU is harder imo.
@ФрейЛиндберг-ю8ч
@ФрейЛиндберг-ю8ч 2 жыл бұрын
Why now? Why not 10+ years ago!
@nekierin6402
@nekierin6402 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone thought that kings did magic with the giant swing
@auruka
@auruka 2 жыл бұрын
Lars f b 2 1 ... this is it!
@gundamvirtue8255
@gundamvirtue8255 2 жыл бұрын
avvesome as alvvays
@سهودومهود-ه9ل
@سهودومهود-ه9ل 2 жыл бұрын
This game is inconsistent
@astrocyong7s
@astrocyong7s 2 жыл бұрын
This is so irretating video
@Ben_diez
@Ben_diez 2 жыл бұрын
i don't like street fighter cause there is no buffering like tekken
@baadshahmiya
@baadshahmiya 2 жыл бұрын
There is buffering in street fighter
@Jake1539
@Jake1539 2 жыл бұрын
Buffering can be applied to almost every fighting game watchu mean
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