My Season 2 Wishlist... System Changes, Buffs, Nerfs

[@khorne133]

For customization, separate the chest and hands to different slots.

[@justanannepfp9814]

Have Leo get a bikini aswell :)

[@mj_out]

Give this game gloves! Yes!

[@FahmiZFX]

Entire sets can be separated. This is my biggest gripe with customization honestly. So damn limiting.

[@slaughterurhouse]

AND SOCKS AND EARRINGS

[@moneymachine224]

Please remove power crush heat engagers

[@alessandroguglielmo719]

- 18 all of them even if they re high

[@shads123]

No, king one is slow as hell

[@alessandroguglielmo719]

@@shads123 it launches

[@InnerTriggerer]

they can still in the game but please make them AT LEAST -14

[@lightninglycan4001]

Yes for e.g Azucena powercrush is op

[@AnakinHatesHighGround]

I need hitboxes fixed. I’m tired of stepping and getting exploded when I’m damn near standing behind the guy

[@deaderdandead1484]

Your hurtbox expands the second you hit a button. You might have stepped a move in a string but press too early before the animation is finished and get clipped. Patience is key to not getting blown out like that

[@kinggold9087]

@@deaderdandead1484do you have any more tips?

[@mosdeaf]

TMM says to be patient. But that often means missing my punish because were playing online. Ive also heard him say to not wait to see what happened and just full send your offense as well. It feels like no matter what I do, Im failing after making a successful read.

[@TheLifeLaVita]

mainman himself made a video explaining how you're mistakenly too early while punishing on sidestep

[@reeeeeeee-e2g]

​@@mosdeaf and that should be a system change. The defensive player made a good read SSing and now that player needs to visually confirm if it's safe to punish? Mind you that majority of the casts launchers are unsafe. So because of this "expanding hitbox" bs i get punished instead?

[@alessandroguglielmo719]

"Claudio can take out the pizza and start painting" As an italian i would absolutely main him

[@bandawin18]

If you speak Italian Claudio is probably a bit cooler as well. I rely on subtitles but it would be nice to just hear what they say and know without having to look down at the words

[@alessandroguglielmo719]

@bandawin18 i main kaz and bryan so i have the same problem

[@Apostolis444]

Since you're italian,does claudio sound cringe to you like how it sounds on sum dubbed cartoons ot is it actually cool to hear him??​@@alessandroguglielmo719

[@hyunka2756]

@@bandawin18 idk I speak spanish and it only made Azucena worse

[@sober5327]

@@bandawin18 i'm italian. he just scream "observe!" and "the light of sirio will purify you" and something else tbh it's pretty boring

[@branbelmont326]

Why do characters immediately go into stance mixup with plus frames when you block their heat smash?? Easily the dumbest addition to this game giving people even more advantage when they just were in heat and used its strongest attack which they know ENDS HEAT why are we giving people two chances when they pop heat smash????

[@CriticalShot17]

@@branbelmont326 yeah that's stupid also heat bound armor should be removed instead do tekken 6 bound to enter heat I think is better like steve duck cancel into wildman bound to go into heat. Too much armor in this game..

[@jaleelkahn7032]

@@branbelmont326 it's a weird design choice but with DJ and Lidia, if I'm in a position of relying on crap like that I'm sunk anyway

[@ft-Shadow]

Yeah

[@GunKleebo]

Make the lounge feel more alive. Imagine being able to play Tekken 4 or 3 with others by the arcade machines. More emotes, chat functions, maybe random replays on the big screen.

[@loserprance]

I'd rather they don't make SF6s mistake by putting too many resources into lobby modes that don't matter

[@bigwillicus4035]

It would be awesome if they had a retro game on rotation

[@N1GHT25]

i wish we could see matches on the big screen in the lounge

[@branbelmont326]

@GunKleebo we need older tekken game arcade machines for sure!! Would be so fun playing t3-5 online on tekken 8 I don’t think they understand how big of a deal that would be

[@TonyHighwind]

GOOD IDEA, put Tag in there too.

[@MrSamuelAdam4]

Backdashing is not the problem. The real problem is a lot of attacks got extended hitboxes. For example my hell sweep or sneak edge can hit people even though my foot never each touched them. This is seems to a problem across the board for every attack in the game. Every attack has a extended hitbox so it's harder to KBD.

[@marlinmurrell620]

Tru

[@sober5327]

so i wasn't dreaming when i got launched by wireless hopkicks

[@alondjeckto]

​@@sober5327 i got lucky chloe flashbacks

[@ft-Shadow]

True

[@TheBigEmstos]

but backdashing is still pathetically stubby so youre wrong

[@somesandman8328]

I’d love to see movement be upgraded for all, hit boxes for certain moves to shrink to create whiffs, and I wanna see a Fist of the North Star dlc

[@bandawin18]

T8 having a bunch of anime guests would be dope fr. I mainly wanna see Kengan Ashura and Baki but Hajine no Ippo and JoJo would be really cool too

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

​@@bandawin18Joseph would be insane in this game

[@mosley3485]

I think T8 backdash would be fine if they fixed the phantom range. Way too many moves hit at 2-3x the range that they should.

[@P-BATEMEN]

BRO R U SERIOUS RN💀

[@somesandman8328]

@@P-BATEMEN yeah? Who’d you rather be the guest character of next season?

[@BertDaBeethoven]

14:14 I swear when everyone gets nerfed and Mainman finally acknowledges Leo I'm gonna be laughing so hard

[@mosdeaf]

Im fine if people ignore Leo because they genuinely dont have useful insight to the character, but the "who gives af" answer EVERY TIME is so annoying. I dont even know if its a running joke or genuine indifference.

[@РоманСмородов-л2в]

everyone just missng that Leo is real OP character. Infinite strings, everything CH launch. Plus on block CH launcher with mixup(on block), unreactable low ch launcher -12, extreme wallcombo damage, df2 range is nearly entire screen

[@BertDaBeethoven]

@ i agree with some of what you said but FULL SCREEN DF2 is a wild statement

[@BertDaBeethoven]

@ it prob started as a running joke and then mainman realized Leo has no glaring weaknesses or broken stuff and doesn't appear in touranments and genuinely doesn't care now.

[@Ronbotnik]

@@mosdeaf as someone who has also been playing tekken for decades and couldnt tell you a SINGLE thing about Leo, its genuine indifference.

[@slightlyabveaverage4059]

I actually don't mind that, some ppls combos are a lot longer than others, so since it freezes it makes the timing of the heat equal for everyone and still gives you a chance to use it as opposed to getting caught in a 24 second combo and then have your heat gone by the end of it

[@SSJSwole]

I feel like the customization wouldn’t feel so lackluster if we could mix and match the stuff that they don’t allow to be worn together too.

[@bigwillicus4035]

Wow, it’s almost like the customization system was literally meant for exactly that and built with that idea in mind. Wonder what happened 😂 fr though, Soulcaliber 6 had essentially the same customization as Tekken8 except everyone could wear everyone’s clothes, and it was all divided by body sections, no “entire body” plus a ton more options, ton more placement options, and ton more accessories (with placement freedom) not to mention stickers and other small effects.

[@paperbeatsrock_]

The rage art bit that he was talking about is something I've felt for a while now. For example, Shaheen's is a joke. I think many of the rage arts should be reanimated to be cooler.

[@No1LukasGrahamFan]

Fits with Shaheen's ""character"" to have a boring Rageart though

[@Ronbotnik]

i genuinely do not know how shaheens rage art even made it past the drawing board

[@kyx5631]

To this day, I can barely make out what King is even doing in his. Worst in the game, please completely remake.

[@bandawin18]

​@@Ronbotnik Shaheen is in the game purely for the extra middle east money. I swear that's all he's there for cuz he does absolutely nothing in T7 and T8. That's the crazy part considering EVERYBODY does SOMETHING in the T8 story except Shaheen who's just kinda there

[@akuma2916]

Tekken supers in 7 and 8 are generally subpar especially 7 look at Paul's,Street fighter supers just have that sauce that Tekken just can't recreate

[@Shibu_PL]

Nerf Jin's d2 and ff2's range and tracking but Kazuya's d1+2 and ff2 is perfectly fine?

[@CriticalShot17]

Typical mainman, ff2 tracking should be removed and being a launcher on hit is stupid... (heat)

[@Santanazation]

Exactly! It's not very reactable

[@HarisNasir575]

Ok what fast mid keep out does kazuya have other than ff2 🤣?

[@UnchartedXL]

Mainman has already said that kazuya d1+2 needs to go forget in which video, but still said so regardless

[@williansouza9441]

Kazuya D1+2 is way slower than Jin's it's just you don't see everyone using like we see a lot of Jin's, in my opinion, of course

[@Voxoono]

its strange that they say stepping is more important, but note how there is a huge void of sidestep-specific moves in this game. A great example is Lee's RSS 3+4 and LSS 3+4 which are DIFFERENT depending on the way you sidestep. It feels like Tekken 8 just wanted to water things down to the point of sedating any sense of intelligence in the neutral and maxxed out hand holding heat mode. Completely agree with this video, thanks for the great content.

[@Dead-Eyed-Man]

Why is an example of the abscence of SS moves? A character with two whole SS moves behind a button. That seems like an example of the opposite. Regardless, access to a move out of a SS is a buff for some characters. Being locked out of neutral moves due to the existence of a SS move can be a nerf and a deliberate balance choice.

[@theftking]

Bro they haven't updated most characters animations since the game they were introduced in - they're not reanimating rage arts 😂

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

True. Some characters still have moves from Tekken 2, like king's chain throws , wonky as fuck

[@b0ost3rz]

didnt they also removeunique side throw animations in this game?

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

@@b0ost3rz yes, they did. I was bummed to discover that

[@Someone_Somewhere7]

​@@b0ost3rz no, its still there.

[@reinsmano]

@@b0ost3rz all side and back throws are in the move list

[@crazy911wman]

Neutral guard needs to be fixed. Wtf are my options after blocking heat dash? Seems like blocking becomes frame perfect move

[@jervaniwilliams9071]

I agree, they need to do something about that

[@TheDocGreen1]

Just hold back. If you stand block you will be hit. During the dash itself just hold back and see what your opponent does

[@Santanazation]

@@TheDocGreen1 Holding back is tiring I need to rest my thumb a bit from all the mashing

[@TheDocGreen1]

@@Santanazation 🤣 lol

[@CriticalShot17]

@@TheDocGreen1 why block a move into heat dash is still the opponents turn? It should put both into neutral. You blocked your opponents heat dash attack that can turn into a launcher and it still their turn is crazy...

[@xander6522]

I personally feel like they need to add more things to do in the lounge, like being able to play the arcade machines or play games other than ball in the beach area 😁

[@carleffique2687]

Prepare to pay a $60 dlc for each tekken legacy game inside the arcade lounge.

[@prosketch95]

​@@carleffique2687i would probably pay for that tbh

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

I'd love to be able to play classic tekken games in the lounge, would be great

[@Wystoroyah]

I’ve been saying since launch, that the big screen in the middle of the lounge needs to be showing random fights from online, whether it’s live or just a random match from a couple days ago, it would make the lounge feel alive more

[@ft-Shadow]

@@KingOfDarknessAndEvilThat would b pretty cool ngl

[@SKULL_REA]

Heat smash thing im with you...tracking on heat smash must be gone simple

[@Saidoches]

The amount of times I caught my opponent with my Heat Smash when they sidestep. And the thing is I knew my opponent will sidestep at that moment but I come in will full confidence with my Heat Smash knowing it will track.

[@SpeedKing..]

Bro ur evil ​@@Saidoches

[@isaacmendez1529]

It would be dope if we got a new opening cinematic for the game in season 2

[@SupremeKingToshiro]

Didn't they change the music every season, too, during t7?

[@isaacmendez1529]

@SupremeKingToshiro yeah they did and health bar colors

[@witchblade8595]

Should be "Mastery" video clip in my opinion

[@isaacmendez1529]

@@witchblade8595 what that mean

[@IAMOP]

00:20 This would shift the meta to using heat at the wall 🤔

[@forsak3n749]

IAMOP u just a lil guy.

[@ksander1779]

@@forsak3n749sit down, u a pup

[@stachujones2936]

mid-combo or wall combo heat utility is more fun mechanic that pop heat and spam best enhanced bunga like 50% of cast do

[@chopsuey004]

@@forsak3n749what was the point of even commenting this lol

[@Hugs288]

the current meta is already using heat bound before wall combo

[@bbwolf326]

Eddy sucks in 8. I really hope they bring Christie back so that we can have the real capo style again instead of rushdown 50/50. Tekken 7 style strings and mix-ups were fine.

[@PhiDXUnhinged]

Our rage arts are really lame :(

[@S1lverArr0w]

Hello Phi 👀

[@isaacmendez1529]

A way to play team games with up to like 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 or 5v5 Need more game modes that incentives playing with more than just 2 ppl

[@KhIDp0is0N]

That's what Team Battle is. Classic Tekken mode.

[@kanjosmacedonovic2259]

-rage arts cinematic duration reduced by 1 second for all characters -heat is expended in 10 seconds, regardless of what you do -decreased tracking on moves across the board, so that the sidestep can shine more -new arcade endings so that every character gets a 'serious' and a 'joke' ending -more legacy costumes in the shop

[@SpeedKing..]

What does the heat one even mean

[@AxelEVILPOTATO]

​@@SpeedKing.. current heat system duration stays longer if you do combo or keep hitting enemy or unless you do the heatsmash or heat dash..so people can abuse it..A fixed time of heat would be much better but we will lose the ability of sick comeback long combos.. sorry if you couldn't understand my English is not top tier

[@kanjosmacedonovic2259]

@@SpeedKing.. basically what mainman said, heat shouldnt stop while you're juggling or hitting

[@SpeedKing..]

@@kanjosmacedonovic2259 ahh, true

[@SpeedKing..]

@@AxelEVILPOTATO thank you I got it and ur English is perfect

[@d0gh0t]

Make Bryan possible to step, thank you

[@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot]

Bryan is not hard to step lol. Heat string is kinda dumb, and qcf1+2 is probably a bit too strong. Maybe that could be -10 or easier to step. But 3+4 and qcb1 which people complain about endlessly, are linear.

[@d0gh0t]

Good Luck with that, qcb1 linear only in your dreams and his heat smash tracking on both sides lol

[@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot]

@ You really gonna act like most heat smashes in this game are reliably step-able? C'mon man lol.

[@przemysawmaecki9958]

Bryan is my main and I agree steeping woth Bryan is kinda diffcult. And he has not good tool after even sidestep is done. He is linear as fuck and You need to be careful, espcecially versu best stepers in Tekken 8 like Lili for exampe. I love his fighting style but in my opinion this is the worse character in this game. Good luck.

[@etrigan966]

He has always been notorious for being rly annoying to step. One move tracks one way but if u step that another move tracks that way. And both moves are ch launchers lmao its just Bryan

[@UchihaFeitan3]

The bias for kazuya being ‘balanced’ 😅

[@Invader.Xim.]

He is balanced tho

[@rReev]

Like a non tracking move that hits you when you're behind him lmao

[@NexusAce27]

Nerf jin to the ground including ff2 tracking & range but leave kaz's ff2 as is god the bias 😂😂😂

[@bandawin18]

It's only really unavoidable in heat, regularly you can step it

[@CriticalShot17]

@@bandawin18 what about kaz d1+2 which is stronger that jin d2 since it's a full launch no tornado spent and you can cancel it into twin piston or rising 2?

[@NexusAce27]

@@bandawin18 you're missing the point, it's not supposed to be that strong, it tracks to his weak side, has the longest range, has an extension, gives u free ff4 on CH outside of heat

[@anarking5764]

Its bc jin has god poking and approach tools so ff2 having the tracking it does is ridiculous while for kazuya his neutral dies without it. Also jin d2 is both a power low, that isnt reactable when mixed with his other options that has tracking to both sides, ch launches and high crushes and is only -14. Kazuyas is reactable and doesnt have tracking which makes it way more balanced.

[@NexusAce27]

The kazcels go insane, this move was never a part of his kit, it's literally not his identity, and now he has one and it's the best.

[@azurefredrikssen396]

Heat dash on block MUST GO or be neutral on block at the very least. Enduring someone's enhanced heat 50/50 pressure+combos, then when they have a tiny bit left you're forced again to block their launching heat engager that was formerly -16 but becomes +5 or 6 because of the stupid ass dash, which then forces you to GUESS YET AGAIN. Why is this a thing?? Blocking = death in this game. Keep it in combos or if it lands, but stop it from activating on block.

[@isaacmendez1529]

Tournament mode has to come back too

[@MagicKk7]

I feel with Jun they shouldn't buff or nerf anything maybe add a crouch cancel to her db2 but that's it. She's balanced and well crafted in Tekken 8 at the moment this is what the top tiers should be like In my opinion

[@Heathen088]

Just give me a 14 frame launcher and keep her the same forever

[@Jiraiya_D_Sensei]

Nah make her db3 +3 on hit

[@louieverrtorreon684]

I also main Jun but I feel like her guard dmg sucks, opponent can still have chunks of recoverable life but she has decent chip dmg though

[@S1lverArr0w]

She needs a small damage reduction. For the (lack of) execution involved, it's slightly too high. Not saying she's EZ mode but her thing is strings and lots of them. In a game where strings track too?.... She definitely needs to be looked at. I'll say that much

[@louieverrtorreon684]

@@S1lverArr0w she does deal more dmg in exchange for her HP and that's her trade off, you spent real HP and it isn't full recoverable. It's like impossible to win her a single round in perfect health because of it.

[@Otize1]

I agree that heat shouldn’t stop as you do a combo, at best it should slow down as you combo so that you essentially would still have heat for the entire length of the combo (should you activate heat immediately before starting a launcher) and it run out shortly after finishing the longest combo (minus heat dash as it expends the meter)

[@luischeco3009]

One thing I want for T8 itself is Character Guides like SF6. These characters are TOO complicated to understand for the average Tekken enjoyer. So I want something in game to tell me. "Hey. Here's ___. They have a special mechanic that ___. Their Heat State does ___. These activates through ___. These are their strengths. These are their weaknesses." I think this would go a LONG way with combatting Tekken 8 as a massive "rage inducing" game. Also, give Heat Defensive Mechanics.

[@mrdeun3655]

Please this. Main gripe when I was moving from GG strive to Tekken was a lack of starter guide to character. Thank god that Blasted Salami made very good videos on most important moves for character. He made it really to understand irt.

[@luischeco3009]

@mrdeun3655 Yeah. But I don't want to watch 20+ minute videos for 30+ characters. I just need some knowledge on the character and go from there. Also, explain game mechanics themselves! Like how combo structure works. The limits of Screws and Launches. Wall combos. These TINY (in the grand scheme) 2-minute long explanations would go a long, LONG way.

[@lphd3424]

⁠@@luischeco3009they already explain the mechanics in arcade quest. Not wanting to watch a video for every character is fine i guess but you get most of the knowledge by simply playing the game and watchting back your replays anyways.

[@marcindamian7329]

WTF u talk about, u got it detailed in movelist how to Play character overall. Basic mechanic u can learn from KZbin in 5 minuts.

[@luischeco3009]

@marcindamian7329 I promise you that is not good enough. The DLC characters like Lidia, Eddy, and Heihachi just... dropped with mechanics that are NOT explained at all in the movesets. They are just there.

[@nick1wasd]

I feel like having Heat diminish during a combo, but giving *everyone* a method of regaining Heat like Lee and King have would be a good move, because you can burn the whole bar for one massive combo, do a less damaging combo that has some heat restore option mixed in so you can get two, maybe three of those in a round, OR stick to grounded jousting options like Install Strings and the chip damage bonanza. Lots of room for personal preference and player expression, and also adds a form of counter play to each one.

[@angelfuentessanchez9476]

u need to stop saying heihachis heatsmash is fair cause is not, it crushes highs, 15 frames, tracks nicely to one side and u need to time it really well to the other and leads to a straight up 50/50 THAT'S NOT FAIR, the character isnt even bad

[@Xardyn9412]

The stance SUCKS, either a power crush or a strong parry or a high crushing hopkick can negate it. Even if I delay it, so can the opponent's defensive measures.

[@forsak3n749]

@@Xardyn9412 it does not suck, ur just bad at using it.

[@BlackPegasusBP]

It's not a straight up 50/50, it has a lot of option selects, and on 3 of the moves from stance, if you guess correctly, you launch him for it. I started not going into stance after heat smash sometimes just so I can keep up my offence and risk less.

[@grimylittleman1040]

But it has dogshit range and the 50/50 has interesting risk management considering the guard break only leads to a flash punch which doesnt do that much damage (unless you are at the wall which makes the decision making even more interesting) and the hidden thunder god fist does good damage but is unsafe iirc. Even if you disagree with me on its fairness I think its still reductionist to ignore all the cool parts about it.

[@rickberny1424]

​@@Xardyn9412 dont like 95% of mid heatsmashes lead to 50/50s thought?

[@EPIKGamess]

I think the meter should only freeze at 1% mid combo, so that if you want to utilize heat for that combos you can still apply it, like soul calibur

[@jarvanlightshield9944]

"Leo, who give a shi-" WHHYYYYYY

[@8bit_pineapple]

I think for King's D/f 2,1 - you don't remove the twitch confirm because that's always been a thing. And you either change the knockdown so he gets a mini combo -- OR add scaling so people can still do the cool sidewalk isw combo but get 40-50 damage instead of 76.

[@rpgtimefire]

Naw that combo is hard and you only see the sickest kings do it. We gotta keep rewarding people for difficulty

[@witchblade8595]

Kaz D1+2 needs a nerf 100%

[@ConcaveSaint]

Yeah, as a Kazuya main I don't like what they did to that move. Should go back to -15 along with Jins scourge. Other than that Kazuya is strong done right.

[@livingashtree1942]

Kazuyas D1+2 is stronger than Jins D2. But people won't admit that.

[@livingashtree1942]

​@@ConcaveSaintYeah and with Jin his D2 i feel like was always meant to be used more as a keep out against mashers as a fear weapon. Kazuyas D1+2 i feel like was actually meant to be used more as a actual counter and actually as a way to get in the opponent since it doesn't tornado launches.

[@Hugs288]

also ff2 needs to have 0 tracking

[@ZavaIT]

Jin's d2 is superior and it shouldnt even be a debate​@@livingashtree1942

[@louieverrtorreon684]

My personal changes for HEAT: -removed duration of the Heat Bar but instead it gives a token for either use of heatsmash or heatdash and that's it -removed Property Changes of attacks during Heat -removed tracking for Heat Smash -removed forced 50/50 stance mix after Heat Smash blocked -removed hazard destroy using Heat Smash -removed Power Crush Heat Engagers -Heat Dash on hit should put the opponent always on slump with guaranteed follow-up with no full launch

[@tearitup5864]

Just like heat smashes, heat engagers should also not track. The nerf they gave to drag’s b3,4 heat engager no longer tracking should be applied to all heat engagers. And please fix the fucking netcode especially when doing cross play battles

[@koboltzkrieg9704]

Not all heat smashes are linear, for example Steve's heat smash is damn near homing. Also I get the sentiment but making all heat engagers completely linear would make some characters weak, but I do think some need their tracking toned down like Bryan's qcf1+2 and the Mishima demon paws

[@pian-0g445]

@@koboltzkrieg9704the best idea is that each heat engagement has that one unique strong point, but I’m should never have multiple. So Steve can keep his. But others who have heat engaged that track and aren’t punishable on block etc etc should be changed

[@leandrodavid6256]

I appreciate all the love you have for characters like Leo and the bears .... Lol .... Keep your fun and I keep playing them 😅

[@muhannar]

Not back dash improved but moves range tuned down

[@bakigod]

Zafina needs her tracking toned down on certain moves but buffs on other moves and more damage

[@kaz6104]

I'm a kazuya main and he needs some nerfs to be honest . Nerf his ff2 and cd1+2 plus frames

[@ConcaveSaint]

Cd 1+2 nerf would instantly put him back to top 20. I think he needs it as is simply because I genuinely can't think of any other plus on block mid other than f4. He needs it. Ff2 I'd agree, and d1+2.

[@Santanazation]

Kazuya and Jinare horrible to fight against. The plus frames they have are stupid. It's like I'm fighting a wall

[@marlinmurrell620]

I think he can keep cd1+2, but nerf ff2 slightly

[@sober5327]

@@Santanazation well at least kazuya is somehow weak when you know is key moves

[@Zelgius4K]

@kaz6104 and his fucking down 1+2 needs a nerf, same as Jins d2. Both moves are stupid. On top of that both high crush like crazy. In general they should hit high cruching low`s that launch you on counterhit. Also Kazuya`s d 1+2 tracks crazy and jins d2 has way to much reach. TMM needs to stop downplaying Kazuya. Kazuya is incredible strong and cheap in this game.

[@supernaturalnoscope]

For customization, I think they should really fix some of the coloring options. In some outfits or clothing options there are color parts you can't change whatsoever even though it seems like you should. Ex: The lighting colors on the back in Yoshimitsu's default outfit 3 or the floral design on Jun's Tekken 3 outfit.

[@LegendOfSolidus]

Tournament players play to win. Just cause we're not TWT top 16 players, doesn't mean Bryan doesn't need some tuning.

[@Shuflin]

This is the one thing TMM is oblivious about.

[@FatCat4221]

Me when i walk into Bryans CH tools back to back

[@mosley3485]

Have you considered blocking?

[@songoku6067]

Bryan is the dumbest char in the game imo, everyone else has weaknesses except him since hes safe af in every single shit he does and the counterplay to him is you pressing a button before he does

[@ZainKhalid02]

good boy. now stand still and eat these beautiful qcb1's and hatchets​@@mosley3485

[@ShorePlain]

Given how easy it is to get in with heat mechanics like the huge heat smash hitbox sizes and that heat smash strings keep going even on whiff, backdash I think Needs to be buffed to make more room for purposeful defensive gameplay. Tekken 8 is already a much more aggressive game where turtling isn't as viable an option anymore, so buffing backdash a little would be a good compromise to still retain the defensive mindgames alongside the new aggressive options.

[@yasinstyl3r427]

100% power crush heat engagers should go. Either your a power crush or a heat engager, not both.

[@vlastermaster]

i agree most of the things you listed but here a couple more that i think are also worth mentioning: - movement is aight in general imo, the problem are a couple of moves with exaggerated tracking like Bryan's qcf1+2, or his SE f212 series as you mentioned, etc. - Hwoarang's half life combo without walls from a 10 frames CH 2,4 into RFS 4 shouldn't exist... the same with his CH db4. - Kuma's heat should be nerf, but his regular kit should gain some buffs since the character kinda sucks without heat. - King's muscle armor should be tone down too, that move is literally spammable due to its armor recovers waaaay too fast and cannot be CHed with lows at any point either, even at point blank you have to react like CRAZY fast in order to throw him out of that, thats why you will see TheJon spamming that and getting away with it even at pro level. - Law's heat 1+2 nunchucks shouldnt track AT ALL either. - Nina's CH game should be heavily nerf, since basically every single string of hers is a CH launcher for some reason... Im ok with her d343 CH since you can duck and launch that even after the first low hits you on normal hit. - Yoshimitsu wall setup after flip is almost without a doubt the dumbest thing in the game regardless if they nerf his damage, that definitely should be gone. - Dragunov's sneak 4 shouldnt be plus on block, b34 Heatdash shouldnt combo just get an extra ground hit.

[@justaman4887]

That mustache is growing on me

[@AlexRFightgames]

Ah, common misconception -- it's actually growing on TMM.

[@alessandroguglielmo719]

@@justaman4887 10/10 definetely would smash

[@kaua7561]

You have a grown man part growing inside you? 😰😰

[@oddities1670]

Lee’s just frames should jail or be safer on block since they’re his main thing. Last hit of Acid rain should be plus on block, it’s super difficult to do especially as a punish. Though in heat, the non just frame should stay unsafe. Should kazuya’s heat be buffed? It doesn’t feel like there’s much use aside from the devil moves since it’s now restricted to temporary heat when he can permanently transform from before. Give back heaven gate damage or restrict it by bringing back the double cd input. Sidestep 1 should be -13. Demon fist in heat could be 15 frame launch. Should kazuya regain heat when you execute an electric? Could heat df 321 hold be a guard break that only guarantees ff2 or a dash electric?

[@mattfrosty8775]

4:37 BLOODY ROAR REFERENCE?!?! In 2025?!?! I miss that series

[@ymb9shinzou743]

When it comes to the meter I want at the very least to keep my meter until I'm actually recovered. It shouldn't freeze with a slither left but then drain just before I recover. Makes you miss stuff you shouldn't having to know that timing. Freeze it until I recover or don't, not some no man's land in between.

[@bluelion7342]

I'm looking forward to the season 2 buffs and nerfs to your stache

[@SKULL_REA]

Bryan needs. Buff

[@zeebeeplayz]

Im so glad people are talking about the rage arts. I got tekken 8 as my first Tekken game about 2 months ago and was so excited to see Kazuya's rage art but when he literally just kicked them really hard it felt so underwhelming.

[@erk489]

The constant downplay he does of heihachi is annoying. He always saying average but he is far from it. He’s seen in a lot of high rank play which tells you something. He’s got busted things also. Even at tekken king emperor ranks even where I fight at, he’s always just 2 interactions away from match over. That’s all he needs to win and by round 3 he pops his thing and it’s almost a 100 percent that match is his.

[@b0ost3rz]

ye and hes not that "linear" as tmm says, also namco delayed his db2 "hashi" timing so you can no longer react to it

[@reinsmano]

Same for Kazuya. Jin’s d2 that has ch tornado needs nerfs but Kaz d1+2 doesn’t even though on ch it leads into full combo? It makes no sense

[@anarking5764]

​@@reinsmanobc kazuyas is reactable and has no tracking while jins is unreactable and tracks to both sides, not to mention full launch and tornado launch are negligible in difference, jin and kazuya can get similar corner carry and damage regardless of tornado or full launcher

[@Fleez311]

Heihachi is very linear and arguably has the worst lows in the game, outside of warriors instinct he’s pretty weak. Considering how much of a handicap Heihachi has, people just have really good fundamentals with him since they have to 10x harder than the most characters

[@reinsmano]

@ Jins isn’t unreactable. It might be hard, yes, but I can’t honestly say it’s unreactable when I just watched someone react to almost every d2 TMM threw out in his Jin ranked video the other day

[@hrleinad]

They should improve sidesteps and backdashes; movement was a lot stronger in Tekken 7. Also they need to buff Jin's heat; give him something unique. Also, they should buff FF+2's range and make it consistent with its animation, as right now Jin's punch can actually touch the opponent but the hit doesn't register.

[@pian-0g445]

Sidesteps are actually improved in this game over 7. But the expanded hit and hurtboxes and string tracking negate the buff.

[@hrleinad]

@pian-0g445 I understand your point, but I cannot call it better sidesteps when fewer things can be sidestepped now than in T7, so since the hitboxes and tracking stuff is a general change, then movement is worse now in comparison.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Make people choose between popping Heat or using a Rage Art. Having both "get out of jail free" options available every round is too much.

[@sober5327]

yeah like T7 super drive

[@Carlo-j9z]

Learn to block, stop eating bait, end your whining.

[@TmoneyT3]

I'm someone that often thinks rage art should only be allowed once a game, but even i can admit that it's not the rage art it's me getting baited and not always thinking my actions through. I know if I tune that up, the problem of rage arts will go down for me. I don't want them to change things because I suck at something or dont want to put in the difficult work to improve. And I know that's the mindset a lot of people are coming from sometimes. This game is about out planning, out thinking, and out reacting the opp. If you got beat even with rage art, you most likely failed to do those things.

[@amorKing28]

Can you do a Character Prediction regarding the Season 2 DLC Characters? I think it‘s interesting to know what THE MAIN MAN thinks.

[@prosketch95]

Rage arts in general were a mistake in Tekken

[@crillz9660]

seriously, at this point when playing, people will just give up on their movelist and bank on their rage art

[@BattleForEden]

Nah I like them because it changes the mindless rush down

[@naizo.]

I disagree, it makes it so that you cant just steamroll people as easily. Sometimes you come across people that really rely on it but if they do it gets predictable quick. I can definitely understand the frustration though.

[@infamoushazard0]

But when you see it get popped every round regardless of it landing or not you sit back and look at your opponent like come tf on you gon pull that shit every round?

[@naizo.]

@@infamoushazard0 I mean it IS a free resource. Would you say the same about someone using heat burst/smash every round?

[@yoruxkami8695]

I want they to remove + frames and pushback on DJ's electric and make hellsweep not launch on 1+2. Ah, and decrease the range on DJ's demon paw as well, so it's like his jab, no range. After that I think he is perfect.

[@typellot9796]

For rage arts; I’d like to see different options for rage arts that are unlockable somehow or character mastery. They all do same damage and same frames just different cinematic. Also what the hell is even Leo’s rage art; it’s lame

[@reinsmano]

Just like everything else about Leo

[@GurrenVoid]

I'm not certain about heat just continually going down after activation because depending on what moves you use while during heat it can literally disappear in 2 seconds, but that's probably just me being a Tenryu player and not utilizing heat to its full potential. I'm in full agreement with you on the backdash and love sidestepping in this game and seeing someone side step properly in this game is just omg...As a DJ main I would love a few more poking options. I don't know man, I'm all for new attacks. Yeah, it could get utterly absurd but having more tools means more things to play with and more options for fun.

[@Klookko]

Heat timer not freezing while doing a combo sounds like absolute garbo considering that manual activation already eats through a lot of it

[@CriticalShot17]

@@Klookko then removed manual heat armored bound, you should only be able to tap into heat by doing heat engaged or like tekken 6 bound for example steve duck cancel into wildman bound to go into heat. This rewards players to be good at the game instead of "oh I'm being rushed down press armored heat bound..." too much armored in this game.

[@tiger-rgn]

mainman is braindead this take was proof

[@TungstenViper]

Fix phantom hitboxes and make moves that are supposed to be linear actually linear and steppable. Remove tracking on strings. Remove tracking on HS and RA. Make RA a one time use in a match. remove power crush heat engagers. Make combo scaling more active on long combos. Make most combo enders be minus on block. Give everyone a move/remove every move that negates recoverable health. add a gloves section and a shirt/pants/shoes variation (tucked in or loose) to customization

[@rufusgriffin5596]

As a Jin main, redesign him to t6 Jin and nerf him

[@imnobody2953]

how bout fvck no

[@sandbar_dd]

Every heatsmash should cancel with big endlag if the first hit whiffs. Some heatsmashes track and advance almost fullscreen so it can be thrown out whenever. They should be steppable and heavily punishable if avoided

[@Hampnon]

jin ff2 tracking nerf but kazuya is fine someone is smoking some good shit

[@jamieallover1587]

A fun dumb mode to add would be some sort of Battle royale on the coliseum map Where 8 or so can fight, no rage art, on kill refills meter.

[@sober5327]

"battle royal"? basically elimination tournament, yeah it would be great. for sure we need a 3rd mode outside ranked and online ( and fck tekken bowl)

[@jamieallover1587]

@sober5327 I mean elimination tournament sure why not but that's basic. I envisioned more of a mode where you get 8 players duking it out on the same map at the same time. Last one standing. With bonuses dropping on the ground and shiit. With the 3D aspect of Tekken its entirely possible though Idk about the net code.

[@crazyfool4578]

Only thing I’d fix on Leroy is speed up some of his moves and give f1 in hermit stance armor

[@BlackTalon1996]

Thats a good idea! That move used to be a counter hit launcher in Tekken 7 😢

[@crazyfool4578]

like TMM said no one is particularly “weak” but some have WAY more tools than others

[@tarta_ruga_kun9128]

As I often say, one of the ways to enhance defense and not reward aggression too much could be to eliminate the chip dmg on block. Leaving anyway the recoverable health, so aggression still have he's purpose but if I block enemy attacks I must not be disadvantaged.

[@pian-0g445]

It would be interesting to see this. Because I really like the grey health and healing mechanic, but at the same time, chip damage sometimes makes it not really matter sometimes.

[@livingashtree1942]

13:15 "Kazuya is fine"??? After all you said about Jins D2?.. bro Kazuya's D1+2 is arguably a stronger version of Jin's D2🤷‍♂️ Imo Jin does need some nerfs but also certain buffs and he definitely could use more moves.

[@alessandroguglielmo719]

@@livingashtree1942 no it isnt,they re similar,kaz gets better damage but d 1+2 is not homing

[@ZavaIT]

Jin's d2 is superior

[@livingashtree1942]

@alessandroguglielmo719 D2 isn't homing it just tracks more since due to the mechanic of the move but is still sidestepable. Kaz gets better damage and his is cancelable, you can fake it into his WS in which he can than do Demon God Fist or Twin pistols and get even more damage, basically a 50/50 CH launcher. It's overall just a more superior move. It's mentally annoying when you get CH by D2 but Kazuyas D1+2 is definitely more deadly to get hit by

[@ZavaIT]

@@livingashtree1942 Jin's d2 has good tracking against Kazuya's d1+2 with 0 tracking, 22 dmg on hit vs d1+2 20 dmg, 22 frames fast vs 23 frames fast. The damage difference on counter hit isnt big enough to make d1+2 better

[@livingashtree1942]

@@ZavaIT Kazuyas D1+2 on CH can easily lead into a 100 damage combo with heat plus it's cancellable faking it into his WS twin pistons or Demon God Fist and potentially leading into even greater damage.

[@JimboJamboYT]

I dont want backdash to be buffed but I want sidestep to be standardized, everyone should have a "good" sidestep. It's so frustrating to learn the correct SS for certain opponents offense then you swap to a character with a terrible sidestep and suddenly your options for defense are limited.

[@TmoneyT3]

It's frustrating but it also makes the characters and their playstyles more unique. Don't see them changing this.

[@iskaroth]

1) Universal nerfs to high power crushes, making them -10 OB, at the very least all those power crush HE should not be safe. 2) No buffs to Lee or Lars - they may not be top tiers but they arent weak either and Lars especially is an extremely strong online char 3) Kazuya is top tier and needs nerfs. His difficulty is greatly exaggerated, at the very least ff2 needs its tracking removed and CD 1+2 should give less +frames OB

[@tiger-rgn]

high powercrushes should be -12

[@dhulinko9904]

Lee's Heat is absolute trash and useless. Tell me you don't play Lee without telling you don't play Lee. If you don't buff Lee, all the obnoxious top tiers MUST be nerfed heavily to balance things out. Characters like Lee have been getting disrespected in too many Tekken generations for too long, and his abysmal tournament use / online use is proof of that.

[@leonflorence118]

I think it should be the other way. If you are juggling your opponent when they are in heat their heat meter should deplete. Why should they get to keep their heat when they got launched?

[@NexusAce27]

Bro said make dvj more gimmicky , something that literally NO ONE wants ,not the player nor the enemy. I swear if this was kaz you'd be crying for buffs. Having a normal df1 would make him scary ok man😂😂😂🤡 Oh notice how he said kaz is fine, kaz is overtuned, he has no business having that FF2 being that good

[@cahweh]

How is kazuya overtuned? Most Mishimas have FF2 so what are you on to?

[@Andy_ARBS]

Do you want to gove examples or nah?

[@daanwlt]

Kazuya is def not overturned lol but I agree that the dvj take was horrible

[@Rius9106]

@@cahweh should be punishable at least. 90% of the attempts to step it ends in ff2 hitting anyway. You can also heatdash out of it so making it minus 10-12 with little pushback should be fine. I'd prefer it losing the tracking capabilities but that could be too much for many.

[@Richardk-ps7tj]

The only issue I have with kazuyas is D1+2 giving a full launch on counterhit (better than Jin's d2 imo) and insanely strong heat

[@dejuanharris5012]

The issue with the heat idea is that it's more complicated than that. Heat is not consumed if the opponent is grounded or thrown. It would require alot of work the rework the system. Also combos would suffer because you could theoretically run out of heat when performing moves the use ut before the combo ends. To prevent this situation, this is the reason why the bar freezes when doing combos.

[@crimsonsmoke]

When TMM was asked if he'd play Kaz in ranked ever again, he said someone would have to give 1000 gift subs. Look at all of the Tekken streamers who live in ranked perpetually with their mains - they are the real Tekken players. I can't take anything TMM says seriously because he's a biased, average player who, despite playing the game for 30 years / 8 hours a day, is not actually that good at the game. And he wants new RA animations? That's his big idea?? Wut...

[@dominiclacroix9489]

id like to add for Yoshi, Flash need some frame change. Keep the current version in heat only and when hes not in heat, it should have worse frames

[@kuwaitian1579]

my season 2 wishlist is the ability find fucking games, ive seen the failed to connect to opponent message more than my family at this point

[@Carlo-j9z]

Seems like a local problem, most people get good connections.

[@dhulinko9904]

Thats a you issue I'm afraid.

[@ShiningSparkL1n6]

I wish Heat System changes should be collected or buildable or obtained (must Fill the bar) first before you can use heat burst or heat engager. and we need all real hitboxes and hurtboxes revealed, so we can formulate the real attack

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Wishlist • Jin’s d2 gives him Yoshi’s lifesteal. • Add more tracking to moves. Gotta stop those Tekken players from playing 3D in a 3D fighter. • All lows are auto parry in heat. • Revert Dragunov nerfs (He isn’t winning tournaments anymore). • Nerf Devil Jin? No remove Devil Jin from the game. This is Bamco’s intended vision.

[@AzureTears]

I think you forgot making Yoshi's flash 2 frames. It should be Sol Badguy's 5K from launch guilty gear strive.

[@reinsmano]

@@AzureTears He needs that Season 1 Sol damage too

[@dronnovik95]

Heat already had that feature about timer going down during combos. Remember mainman himself complaining how annoying it was going for heatdash combo just for it to run out and get dropped. Be careful what you wish for

[@hiebrantsify]

TMM you missed the one thing that needs to be buffed. Thats is steves voice actor!!!

[@TheLifeLaVita]

why do people hate on the voice actor. He speaks english, british even, of course it would suck ass compared to every other chadder language. No amount of british voice actors would fix the flaws in the language

[@hiebrantsify]

@TheLifeLaVita the hate comes not for the accent but for the prepubescent sounding voice. Ergo he sounds like a 10 year old child when he should sound more masculine and don't tell me that irish people do not have people with masculine voices. The voice does not match the body. Not to mention the previous version do it better. (Apparently)

[@TheLifeLaVita]

@@hiebrantsify the voice matches the body more than any "more masculine" whatever that means. You want kratos instead of a damn boxer laughing my hellish ass off. The hate, independently of wherever you mistakenly think it comes from, comes from the language he's speaking, in a game with heavy confrontation with the others. It will always lack in comparison. No 40 years smoker or heavy injected bodybuilder voice would change that

[@hiebrantsify]

@@TheLifeLaVita Can't beat sense into you so to each his own. Whatever I tell you, you wont be satisfied. Part of being on internet. Keep pouting son. Ciao

[@TheLifeLaVita]

@@hiebrantsify you're the one bashing an actual career of someone because you got it wrong lmao I'm defending the right to have a brain and not bash people who worked hard and well. Stay mad. If you really don't understand what nonsensical backlash can do to his career then you have growing up to do. A lot of it

[@dbrainstorm]

As a Feng main, I definitely agree with the b3 nerf needing to happen. It really should only be +3 at most or have its guaranteed followup nerfed/removed (maybe remove the knockdown entirely). A nerf to f1+2 making it -10 to -13 on block would be next on my list, and maybe a nerf to the damage of 3, 1+2 since it's such an obnoxiously good whiff punish and has charge-up mindgames (maybe make it -15?)

[@Donalob]

Agree with all the video, though I'd do something about Kazuyas heat. It's way too OP. If you nerf Kings df2,1 then the character will be useless in high level play. Same with Yoshi, if you nerf him too hard we'll never see him in tournaments as he's barely represented as is. Nina, Feng, Jin, Law, and Claudio need major nerfs.

[@sonicglenjamin]

Please make heat engagers work like heat dashes. If i do a move with a heat engager tied to it…i should have the option to go into heat by holding forward like heat dash can.

[@spacemountain5624]

If you’re being juggled, your heat goes down. If you’re the one juggling, it does not go down. Otherwise, heat meter goes down as normal.

[@branbelmont326]

Really bad design decision

[@spacemountain5624]

Heat will still go down as normal otherwise. At least it makes you really think about activating heat. but hey whatever.

[@Q10gaming]

I hope they add more customization like a different slot for your hands. I try to create kaz old outfits but cant put on his gloves

[@Carlo-j9z]

That's why you got accessories...

[@lightninglycan4001]

Give Reina a stronger low and bring back her high properties in her osoku stance then 4 or full crouch 4

[@S1lverArr0w]

Honestly she doesn't REALLY need a new low, though she will probably get a new one in S2 like how everyone is getting new moves. Maybe buff the frames on the ones she has now; db2 neutral o.h. Ss4 is good but maybe make it -12 instead. But most definitely agreed on High Crush for FCdf4 and Unsoku 4. I don't know why they removed it in the first place. The nature of the move is intended to be evasive. I have lost many games because I have been jabbed out of it 😴

[@lightninglycan4001]

@S1lverArr0w finally someone agree everyone keep saying Reina strong as she is now but her lows whack so I guess increase the hit advantage db2 I can accept that n bring back her high crush

[@ashenone4349]

as a devil jin main, i don't think he needs that much of a buff but i think it would be fresh to slightly tune up he's scaling off counter hit launchers (b4 for exemple) to make he's playstyle a bit more rewardin for not constantly agressing you're opponent. he kinda has a streamline offense (even if most good player will just fuck you up for trying shackles or mourning crow 1) and this is what might be his toxic side.

[@mxh4med267]

dvj main here as well and i think they need to fix the tracking of his df1 but other than that he just needs slight balancing.

[@tyarn6811]

Mainmanswe here

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

Hope you're doing awesome as always

[@finalozzy]

I don't know what I expected waiting for Leo commentary

[@SKULL_REA]

On the meter thing ..harada did say they wanna add a non heat ranked mode for people who dont like heat😉

[@TheLifeLaVita]

bad. They shouldn't give the toxic players a part because they'll be toxic about it anyways. They need to just drive them away to be toxic somewhere else, outside of tekken's community. We already have all the toxic brain dead people hating on the game for no reason to handle

[@forsak3n749]

@@TheLifeLaVita having an opinion about heat is not being toxic lmao.

[@TheLifeLaVita]

@@forsak3n749 they don't have an opinion they're blindly hating on the game, with no reason other than being sad beings and having to be toxic to feel something. That's why they are toxic lmao.

[@Kondes500]

They could at least... try fixing the heat than splitting the matchmaking, I think that would be bad, I don't know

[@danotoo96]

When did he say that? I thought he said he is not planning to add a no heat mode a few weeks back

[@mvr4t]

I feel like heat should continue while you attack, but should freeze when you're launched.

[@bobogemini1574]

Neh KBD needs to be fixed asap..

[@MagicKk7]

yeah the fact it has to be exactly frame perfect to make any difference is bullshit

[@zacharyquinteros6575]

Call me crazy, but I think steve needs a few buffs. His while rising 2 should ch launch imo. And his b1 should do a bit more damage on hit and counter hit. I also think that his df2 should have better tracking considering it no longer counter hit launches. 😊

[@Badguy10472]

No heat mode, no rage arts, no armor moves. Let's go back to traditional tekken using pokes without the noobish gimmicks

[@Regulus-uu7pb]

Stupid idea and never gonna happen. At best you can get a single game mode where it's like this with no heat etc. But it's never gonna be the default game mode

[@SupremeKingToshiro]

Vf is right around the corner, no gimmick all skill.

[@michaelwill5972]

Yeah right, just take away every single innovation while they're at it..Hell take wall away too, combos too..Make it tekken 1 actually

[@Badguy10472]

@michaelwill5972 maybe not that far back but revert things back to like they were in Tekken 5 DR for sure.

[@SupremeKingToshiro]

@@michaelwill5972 Sound great

[@SS_Sin_Of_Pride]

When you land a heat engager, you get a full bar of heat. But when you heat burst you only get like 3/4 of a bar regardless of if it hits or blocked. I think this should be the other way around. high reward heat engagers should not give you a full bar imo.