Tekken Has a Serious Problem

[@DashFight]

What is your personal stance on “one and done”? Should Tekken 8 enforce playing a complete FT2?

[@TheDiggus]

Really annoying, you don't learn anything. Your opponent doesn't learn anything. Especially in quick match, where playing has zero consequences on your rank.

[@Stanlos]

I don't understand. I thought Tekken was automatically best 3 out of 5?

[@alvarezah]

I'm new to the tekken world. There are toxic af players put there who have been playing twkken for ages and just wana defeat you in a way that breaks your spirit. I do not enjoy playing folks like that so I tend to give them just one match before hitting the lab. Locking someone into ft2 isn't the answer.

[@breakr16]

I always rematch no matter how sad it makes me, unless it’s dragonuv 😂

[@funkrates4778]

I think it should be a requirement. Finish the sets.

[@Onbutteredtoast]

Tekken has a a lot of serious problems people doing “one and done” is not in the top 5

[@cmg112196]

Imo, plugging is more of an issue then one and done. You honestly cant control someone to stay and finish a set in an online setting emergency or not.

[@dregofuego3193]

And what if I don't wanna want a rematch💀 they expect me to lose to somebody that violated me and rematch to lose more points

[@aarong8099]

⁠​⁠@@dregofuego3193That’s whatever but plugging right before you lose makes you part of the bigger problem lmao

[@hands-ongaming7180]

Sometimes I gotta go and just let my opponent win 😂

[@MVashM]

1&done and plugging wouldnt be a problem if they gave incentives and encouraged players to rematch more. can be fixed like this: 1st match in a set --> standard points for win, standard deduction for loss 2nd match (consecutive win) --> higher points for winning the set, much less deduction for losing again 2nd match (win 1 lose 1) --> slightly higher than standard win points, slightly lower than standard loss point deduction 3rd match --> significantly higher than standard win points, significantly lower than standard loss point deduction allow for infinite rematche 4th match and beyond --> no points for disconnect: 1. show disconnect percentage correctly 2. award standard win points to the person who didnt disconnect 3. deduct higher than standard points on the side that disconnected 4. no bans 5. no penalties on the 4th match and beyond

[@MVashM]

if two consecutive wins in 1st and 2nd matches, then from the 3rd match and beyond ---> no points, no penalities

[@DashFight]

Ranked points are there for matchmaking as well, not solely as an encouragement to keep playing. If you change how point distribution works, it will either make matching players based on skill more difficult, or create a disconnect between MMR and displayed rank, which would make the latter fairly meaningless. Treating DC as a loss for one player, and win for the other, should be fairly normal, though. And good idea on the infinite rematch. Would be perfect if after the set if over we could just keep playing when both are down for it.

[@TOAST-FACEKILLAH]

This is perfect

[@Thekidspot]

If a DC is counted as a win for one player then people would most definitely start farming wins off another account. Its best to just have it count as a loss its not perfect but atleast you know the plugger lost points.

[@HeavySandvichGuy1]

I'd say for disconnect 3. Deduct lower than standard points, but increse the number if it keeps occuring. Because some people can leave because of power issues, internet, crashes etc. But if it's occuring over and over, then it's 90% a plugger

[@okureta]

If you don’t care about rank points, then why do you care about it being a specific format? If you want a long set, you can talk to people, and play a long set in private, or in the lounge, or play quick match. As you yourself say - points don’t matter. There are other modes in the game, not just Ranked Match.

[@okureta]

From my own experience - I will only one-and-done unplayable connections. And if I was mandated to play a full FT2 against a lag switch, it’s easier for me to just put the controller down and go get a snack or something. A waste of time. The game has a big enough population where looking for a new match doesn’t take long (hey, you can actually run into the same guy you just finished a set against). So no, I don’t think mandated FT2 is necessary, or even fair. One-and-dones are going to do their thing, and the best we can do is learn to win that first match. And maybe talk to people for a long set occasionally.

[@Filterdeez]

​@@okuretaexactly. I don't mind one and dones, but I'm not going to rematch someone who just destroyed me or that I just destroyed. There isn't anything to learn, I'm gonna take my points or loss and move on. Now the cheaters, I'll plug tf out of them. You wanna cheat, hold this disconnect.

[@judge_rekt]

Plugging is an issue, because you get your points stolen. You loose something you'd have gotten. One and done is not a big deal. There could also be a ton of reasons why people can not play another round, but why rack your brain over something you'll never know anyways? You already got your points from the win. Next opponent is ready for you 10secs later. Just move on and don't care about other players. Care about your performance and improving your skills. How Namco should "fix" this: Give bonus points for completing a set. That way people can still decide on their own, if they want to finish a set, or not. At the same time you are incentivised to do so. Everyone is happy.

[@JohnRambo-zz6gy]

The game still needs a lot of work. This one and done thing is the least of my worries.

[@moistwindow6094]

I feel like one and done does a disservice to both players, a normal 3 round game isn't necessarily enough to learn anything (as I was typing this it was said in video, lol) but the main thing for me is that it's really annoying and I understand this might not be applicable at all, but it feels like if you leave after one loss it's salt, and if you leave after one win it feels like you're just cocky

[@Strangz_ODT]

If I wipe the floor with someone, I don’t mind the one and done. (Although I will select rematc)I don’t think they will learn much by getting washed again and I’m not greedy for taking points from someone I know I can beat. It only irks me if they happen to scrub a w on me then leave. That feels like they know it was a fluke and wouldn’t go there way in a set. Which is fine and not a big deal, don’t care about the points and atleast they didn’t plug. It’s just slightly disheartening knowing players rather achieve ranks with the path of less resistance instead of challenging themselves. Reaching a rank for real to me means that you’ve gotten strong enough that the majority of players in the ranks below you can no longer contend against you, and for pluggers, win quitters , and carried players without fundamentals, that simply isn’t the case.

[@stuke18]

I think a reason this is such a problem in t8 is how the rank system works. The fact that when you are red ranks or higher and lose to someone three ranks higher than you is the same points loss as someone your own rank massively disinsentivises fighting and learning from people stronger than you. In other games like sf6 or even T7 playing a higher ranked player isn't such a big deal as the points loss is marginal. It takes guts in T8 to press rematch against someone you are probably going to lose to because you know a major points loss is coming. Not saying its a good reason to leave, but I think bamco should be thinking about how their ranked system incentivises one and dones

[@MVashM]

agree

[@Flashlegz]

Don't you get way more points for beating the higher ranks? Playing the lower ranks is a literal waste of time with the amount of points you get, I think the point is you should be able to stomp your previous ranks to keep your current one and beat the higher ranks to take their place.

[@Filterdeez]

​@@Flashlegzno, it's not consistent. I've lost to a person 3 ranks above and lost 100 pts, but I've also lost 400 before. Same with winning. And same for a rank lower; I've won and lost anywhere between 100-400 pts off a lower rank. I'm Shinryu rn

[@Ron-nr8lw]

I feel like it should default to 2 of 3 but if certain parameters are met such as like the game detecting really high ping during the match or like if a player gets perfect 2 of the three rounds they won then let the other person opt out and just take some of the points

[@HWHY]

Having expectations of others is nothing but a personal problem.

[@aries593]

Yesterday I ran into 8 pluggers and 4 of them were Hworangs😢

[@azizkash286]

1 and dones are not bad. Plugging and not taking a loss is the worst part of this

[@poepertist]

well not that serious in my opinion

[@ntalottantalotta9114]

Every person should have the freedom to choose to continue or not. matchup that no 1 learns is also in the lab so take that whiney excuse elsewhere. the way i play ranked is if im playing and realize i stand no chance. no rematch its a waste of MY time. Ur time is not the only time.(remember that)

[@ZrinjskiCo]

I might be minority, but I think one and done is personal preference. If I find opponent that is skillfull and can help me learn matchup, I will take rematch, but if I encounter opponent that uses cheeses and throws me in the air to deal 70% of HP, while I could take the piss while his combo is still not finished, I'll pass on it any time.

[@user-vz1cn6vb2j]

Nooo! I am entitled to fight you! I paid money for this game so you must fight me, reeeeeeee!!!!

[@mandatorycorpaccount]

It's good that you bring this topic up. Having a forced first to 2 set would be great start, but it wouldn't work as long as pluggers can just yeet themselves out of existence for no penalty whatsoever :(

[@watcherman222]

The only time I take offense is when the opponent ki charges after winning and then leaving.

[@J04Pierre]

Fuck that if a person is lagging im not about to stay a play another match yall can’t force no do a rematch

[@Filterdeez]

I won't even stay the match if someone is lag switching. So I don't think pluggers should get bans, I think they should get no points and their win streak ended for sure.

[@J04Pierre]

@@Filterdeez facts

[@MrEpicWinner]

1) Connection is trash too often even after it says 5 bars. Forcing bo3 is moronic. Go ahead and play several trash connections bo3 in a row and you'll uninstall the game. Also people can cheat by introducing lag on purpose. 2) I take a 1 and done as a compliment when they do it on me.

[@evansdada2004]

One and dones do not bother me. You pretty much queue up for the next match soon after.

[@Tekkenislegit]

I do "one and done" because i always have connection issue by 1-3 match. And I don't want to be stressed up when enjoying the game

[@tamsirjames3793]

I think that they should reward you with more points if you play more matches against someone you lost.

[@splashymcsplash2316]

Plugging is a far bigger problem than one and done. Ultimately you cant force people to rematch you if they don't want to. The same people pushing this are the same ones upset that Death matches aren't a thing anymore. Ultimately forcing people to run a set they don't want to play is a waste of that persons time. If I'm playing ranked I'm playing for points, I can run unranked or sets in player matches for the sake of labbing.

[@davose8756]

Real problem is the plugging and cheating, and yes I always run the set unless it’s god awful connection

[@JohnSmithson999]

The term "one and done" should be replaced with "forfeiting" , since if you did that in real life in a tournament you'd be disqualified.

[@PKVirgil]

I would rather have someone 1 and done me than plugging. Plugging is the main issue here! A good solution to this is before the match, they should vote for a 1 game or first to 2.

[@KnuckleSamwich_]

Thought I should add that when the game was first released and the game was crashing due to servers being overloaded, completing a set sometimes caused the game to crash. For some reason, choosing not to rematch actually helped reduce the amount of crashing, so everyone was doing that just to keep playing. But thankfully that's been fixed and now one has an excuse to not finish a set haha

[@Moltanova]

Personally, I one and done for a couple reasons that i don't think it's stated. One instance is a complete stomp. Im in Garyu with my main right now so im not to adverse to learning the match up, But when I litterally sit there AND CAN"T actuaally play the game why do i want to pkay you again? There's no Dance which fighting games are, it's just one person,. slamming full tilt while the person is struggling to actually stand. The Second reason, is Just as much as others don't want their time wasteed, I don't want my time wasted. This game has a lot of cheap,cheesy character that ironically most of them if not all of them are high tier. Feng, Why play, when he out damages in almost every scenario. Dragunov, Has plus frames on everything. Xiaoyu, is so evasive that literally it would be better to stand there as a wet log and just get beat. Lastly, Right now as rank stands, I wouldn't mind rematching if i Didn't Lose more point when going against a higher a opponent than me. This ranked system incentivises you A) play and makes sure your opponent doesn't have a chance , B) Lose if you are at the bottom of your rank or C) Fight lower ranked opponents,Dominate them, obtain a win streak then just keep doing that.... Its the game that is breeding this toxic behaviours

[@natheannzbar7925]

Real talk

[@MVashM]

agree. they should rethink how ranks work. in t7 i often played more than 6 rematches in ranked against higher ranked players and accumulated a loss streak and sonetimes lower ranks kept rematching me many many time and i beat them every time and they keep rematching. the rank system in t8 is the problem and the players

[@Flashlegz]

You get more points for beating higher ranks and a tiny amount for beating lower ranks. Which logically puts you in the rank range your supposed to be in.

[@Corrupt140]

The game could, after the initial fight in a ranked match; prompt the players to select between a first to 2, 3, 5, etc. The lowest selection of the 2 players will be chosen. One cool feature of that is if you are playing a 'weak' or non-meta character people will be more inclined to select longer sets against you, and you will benefit from a better environment for learning (long sets). The inverse is true for when you select OP characters. Players get a choice, at any rate.

[@jonnypaspula]

Plugging is a far bigger problem than one and done for me. Sure think what you’d like, but it’s within the rules and their right to quit after one game, otherwise the game wouldn’t allow it. Also, it’s possible maybe something came up, or they ran out of time to play/kids are crying/ they need to sleep. They’re only obligated to complete the match at least. I personally get at least one rematch in, but I don’t think much of a one and done. Now, there isn’t much room for debate for someone quitting in the middle of getting back to back juggle comboed, that’s just pure salt (not to mention it didn’t give you credit for the win, did they fix that yet??)

[@D3Vlicious]

Decouple the ladder from MMR. Make the latter something that's less visible and based on pure Elo and not arbitrary points. Then just award points to climb a ladder that isn't tied to Elo. This way, you can tweak the amount of points given (or taken away) while at the same time preserving actual accurate matchmaking.

[@sourpiggy]

Hey! I'm The Quickster at 0:02! Thanks for adding me to the vid!

[@benjoman34]

I always rematch, but there are cases where i won't. Like matches with horrible lag spikes with wifi players or like if i need to put my baby back to sleep. I have played since tekken 2 and grew up in arcades. I dont see this as a big issue in 2024. Sure its annoying but there are bigger fish to fry.

[@hang1893]

I 1 and done.. but its based on a few factors. I noticed that you drop in rank a lot faster if you play losing sets. So, after 2 sets (2 different players) and you lose those 2 sets... your next set will probably be a demotion match. So, I demote after losing to 3 people.............If I 1 and done. I demote after losing to 5 people. For me, the numbers are better.

[@ZiyaB3ast]

You're gonna learn way faster by losing to these people. You running away actually makes you a worse player, making you rank up way slower in the long run than if you tried to learn by running the whole set. I've been demoted countless times by running the full set. I've even surprised myself with adapting at the very last chance and turning the whole set around. In conclusion, you're a pussy.

[@ZiyaB3ast]

Even though I've been demoted, I get my rank back super quickly because I know I belong in the rank that I'm in. Once I learn more, I'll rank up in no time

[@Flashlegz]

Thinking about keeping your rank is what will keep you down long term. I went up to Gyaru then thought I'll carry on a bit then dropped to Eliminator and worked my way back up, definitely became a much better player during that time, don't have much of a problem with players in the same rank but the two above definitely have a lot of things I need to lab. I feel I am missing the required knowledge to go above Gyaru at the moment, lot of knowledge check BS and general practice of when to step and duck. Side step right against Dragunov when he comes in has helped immensely.

[@hang1893]

Ehhhh if you say so @@Flashlegz

[@hang1893]

I just dont like how Tekken does Rank... has nothing to do with Skill set.... i am hanging with people that are a few levels above me. I just dont think you should be at risk of dropping after 2 sets with 2 different people. And when the match is good... i usually rematch regardless. It just depends on the initial outcome. I also get way more games in with a lot of different people. vs playing sets i know ima lose or the match wont be fun because i already have an idea of how the person will play. A lot of cheesefest currently. @@Flashlegz

[@user-wn9by4tf9q]

Leaving a set early should give the points to the other person. I get 1ND so much here by it's ridiculous. Just as you say, I don't have to win, they leave if the matches are too close or I start figuring out their bullshit. I'm not at high rank and I'm not even good at this game, but it's a problem I face literally every other match (Asia region btw). Ppl need to stop holding on to points like they can trade them in for gold or something

[@auroranamex5886]

No, plugging is the real issue. This one is tolerable.

[@Filterdeez]

No, cheating is the real issue. People can plug all day, but once your wired connection starts lagging on my turn to punish, or while I'm comboing; I'm out. You can hold this disconnect

[@Gakki_Aniki]

one and done players are almost the same as pluggers

[@Flashlegz]

Pluggers are definitely worse, come on now

[@Filterdeez]

Y'all are both wrong, cheaters are the worst. Crying about not getting rematched or crying that you made someone rage quit is pretty pathetic tbh.

[@Gakki_Aniki]

found the plugger lol

[@sayonarakid]

I don't really mind at all. For now the real problem with tekken8 is pluggers. That is a crime.

[@Filterdeez]

It's not a crime if you're plugging a cheater

[@CountFernandoPartridge]

All they need to do is adjust the point distribution so you don't get anything for leaving a match early. That way if you had to leave because your house caught on fire or the connection sucked, no problem, but if you leave all the time to maximise your wins you simply won't rank up

[@iamspeed403]

It’s ok the it’s been proven that the one and done-ers stay at the bottom and never improve.🤣

[@Quique19_96]

5:08 yoo I made that King Giga Chad render. It was cool seeing it in the video I wasn't expecting it 😅

[@adamdickerson2762]

I agree you don’t have to rematch if you don’t want to I don’t always get rematches and sometimes I don’t rematch.. that’s not a big deal to me.. I’m only there to set goals and try to reach them that’s it

[@Yeeeee928]

Sure, could the ranked format change. I agree but there are A lot more bigger problems than just rematches. Net code, plugging, Smurf accounts. I thought this vid was going to talk about the serious issues.

[@via_negativa6183]

I actually think sets should be first too 3 and you don't get points unless you play the entire set, but that being said its entirely okay to one and done. Draganov, feng, ling, king, devil jin and Jun. Game needs a few balance patches.

[@lucacenacchi6627]

i noticed that also the looser of a one sided match goes for one and done if the winner wants a rematch

[@jakemitchell3599]

Nobody owes you a rematch. I don’t know why players feel so entitled to other players time. If someone doesn’t want to run it back, then they shouldn’t have to regardless of the reason.

[@bobhoskins-kl6ue]

Why do people feel entitled to ruin everyone else's experience? By your logic, what's wrong with plugging? Why do you feel entitled to a match?

[@Filterdeez]

​@@bobhoskins-kl6ueif someone not rematching you ruins your experience, then you need to toughen up. If you force someone to rage quit, then why are you mad? Take it with pride and move on. The entitlement is crazy and your hypocrisy is hilarious. Y'all so worried about getting that rematch, meanwhile players actually cheating are actually ruining experiences. Get your priorities straight

[@andrewscottgreer]

no u get your priorities straight

[@ggrogan]

if I was locked into it like in mortal combat ft2s, I’d stay, but because I can leave, if you’re annoying me with your play-style, then I’m going to beat u and then leave.

[@taczpat5610]

You play bear or jun, you have 1'n' go from me, at least i dont plug

[@Jake-xj1sn]

Such a weird issue for some ppl. Let ppl play the way they want to play, they dont owe you anything.

[@natheannzbar7925]

Real!

[@CountFernandoPartridge]

In any competitive format a Tekken match is first to two wins, and ranked is now set up with that ft2 format, only your opponent can simply leave early without completing the set lol so this creates a situation where people are incentivised to leave after every match so they can maximise their points and avoid opponents who might beat them It doesn't matter if people occasionally leave early it's more that this quickly becomes the norm due to the point distribution and ranked becomes a pointless grind of going in and out matches, queuing up for a new set every 3 minutes etc

[@Filterdeez]

​@@CountFernandoPartridgeokay and?

[@commandoghost5883]

@@Filterdeezbro probably one and dones a lot

[@Filterdeez]

@@commandoghost5883 bro probably lag switches so he gets mad at one and dones. Cope harder

[@leonardwashington7189]

Yeah i don't want to be forced into a set with McDonald's wifi and PCs that cant handle the game. And im a Console Leroy player

[@Pepsimanv2]

King players have the cheesiest playstyle and wonder why you don't rematch 'em.

[@OpenMynd82]

I one and done because I paid for my game and I play my game the way I want to. Its the same as WHAT PERSONAL ITEMS i purchase... how I use my personal item that I purchased is none of your business... and no amount of lecture is gonna change that.. Ive never seen someone so salty over a rematch. ONLY PEOPLE who lost s match cry over a rematch...TAKE THE L and get over it already..yall makimg whole videos mad about a rematch... THIS VIDEO ALONE makes me wanna ONE AND DONE EVEN MORE..just so yall can make another video crying about it

[@FloridaMeng]

nah eff all that noise i love it when someone squares up against me and then admit by leaving that they couldn't handle the smoke. Those cowards fuel my passion for tekken.

[@olishonick]

Ranked should be mandatory ft2

[@jamiedeepfake2849]

SF6 98% of players rematch… tekken is a different beast.

[@Wolfianzero]

I rematch Alisa players but they still beat me regularly. Still trying to figure out how to counter them

[@Flashlegz]

Syndox on KZbin has a nice 6 min guide on that.

[@BullC6]

Forced FT-2 is really bad because there are too many wifi warriors and potato PC's out there. I am a serial rematcher but I draw the line at your PC and connection sucking ass. I think there should be a points distribution system. If your opponent wins and you don't rematch you lose more points and they gain same and if you win and decide to dip half the points you earned should go back to opponent. That way serial one and donners will lose points accumulatively as your rank win rate is usually around 50% mark and be forced to rematch more. And I am okay with losing some points once in a while for not rematching unplayable connecton.

[@ScorZulu]

The game teaches most new players to be as aggressive as possible

[@TheRadioSquare]

God I wish they would force you into a full set in ranked. I'm sick of trying to get in some matches and have people leave because they didn't win.

[@Flashlegz]

It kinda happens in 3 ways. They beat you and they leave, you beat them and they leave, you give them a rematch they beat you then leave.

[@Filterdeez]

Oh boo hoo, take your w and move on. Crazy how people really upset about winning a match in ranked

[@TheRadioSquare]

@@Filterdeez Boo hoo, go play with bots if you're so scared of playing the damn game. Ranked is not for you, lowlife.

[@THEDENDIECASTRACING]

lol, no one owes you a rematch. Just move on. I am not going to rematch if I know I can’t beat you. I am not playing Alysa twice, win or lose.

[@flexfam9791]

Yea getting mad over someone not rematching it weird

[@Gor342]

Scrub mentality

[@flexfam9791]

@@lou7980 and?

[@aarong8099]

Lol.

[@aarong8099]

@@flexfam9791common sense.

[@brolyschroeder8348]

Idk why they make it the game hard like whats the point just make it fun for everyone

[@shajita]

What if I find a game fun if it is hard? Not every game is for everyone, and that is a good thing!

[@Filterdeez]

Or maybe you should go play a game that's easier.

[@kingbae6814]

They one and done cuz they afraid they will lose their win streak if they lose they rematch when they win they leave I play cuz ya know it's a GAME

[@celticsbound]

Lmao who cares tbh if the developers cared they would make it ft3

[@zebedee123456789]

I one and done every game, for me this tactic helps to suppress salty feelings. Yes I do spend more time in training but again this is a compromise I'm willing to endure.

[@TMNTfever]

FT2 should be mandatory. Ranked should be similar to a real tournament.

[@ronaldwilliams9635]

People run from me too in a rematch lol

[@DOSFrost]

My solution for Ranked: One and done with a win - You get a quarter or smaller fraction of what points you'd normally get, promos only given for 2 wins One and done with a loss - You eat double the amount of lost points, demotions automatic DC - Auto win for the player still connected to tekken servers, loss for player who broke connection with the server

[@Tony-Madisson]

Great content ❤

[@natheannzbar7925]

The vocal minority who cry loudly about one-and-done-ing are crying about nothing. T8 has several utterly broken or advantaged/disadvantaged characters, and is still waiting for major balance changes, some of which will never come. That alone explains it. Also if you see that the opponent just mopped the floor with you, like you had no chance, you're not going to want to fight them again, that would be stupid. Touch the stove? No thanks. I play people for all 3 usually even if they beat me, because i want to learn how to fight that OP character better, obviously, but there's no reason to throw shade if someone wants to leave after an entire match. They're not leaving after a single round, some of these matches are potentially 5 rounds if it goes 2-3. Also, its not like you have a shortage of players, how long does it take you in "searching for a player?" 5 seconds? T8 sold 2 million like right away. There is absolutely zero shortage of players. Its not like you have to sit on a loading screen. You get to wait in practice mode by default. You want to get better? Thats what that's for. Get better by playing, get better in practice mode, both are necessary. Is it because you beat someone and you want the glory and dopamine of beating them again, even though you have already proven you can beat them? If they beat you once and then leave, are you upset because you didnt get a chance to prove you could also beat them? You're going to lose, you're going to win, that's part of the deal. It doesn't matter if someone beat you. They're going to get better and worse and so are you. Theyre going to promote and demote and so are you. Look at the win percentages. Some characters are objectively less inclined to win. If i play your character who is objectively advantaged, and then you play them well, and whip by butt, why would i sign up for more of that? I'm not going to get better in a match where i have exactly 2 moments in the entire match to do the perfect thing and avoid death. Also, thats not fun. If they beat me and i feel like i messed up or i had a chance, which is most of the time, I'll play all three, and usually get at least one match win. But if the character match up is heavily tilted, why are you trying to shame players into fighting you again so you can whip them again? Do you need more practice doing your routine on players who don't have a chance? You have that already, it's called practice mode, or even super ghost battle. Imagine this argument in any other field of life. "I beat him really bad and he DIDN'T wanna play again for some reason!! What a trash person!!!" Also, its a video game. How can you be mad that a random stranger didn't play a video game with you for the frequency and duration that you desired? This is a nothing burger. What actual problem is created by one-and-done-ing? Literally none. "Moooom! Jason won't rematch me in basketball!!!" "Jacob you always mop the floor with your brother, leave him alone. Go play the neighbors."

[@skyefox5796]

This is the saltiest I got bodied in yellow by a king I have ever read

[@natheannzbar7925]

@@skyefox5796 objectively true though, also everyone got bodied in yellow by a king, that's part of the point

[@skyefox5796]

@@natheannzbar7925 cheers to you for at least admitting it lol

[@natheannzbar7925]

@@skyefox5796 I love Tekken 7 and 8 but the balance is sometimes hilarious. I'm learning Lidia right now in Tekken 7 and she has a quick 3 hit combo that does 33% health. I'm learning that true balance is not really a thing with Tekken.

[@raidennc]

Wait until somebody tells him the truth... That this is the most balanced Tekken has ever been on release.. The fact is you will feel the same way no matter what changes the balance team makes to the game. Tiers will always exist in EVERY competitive game and you will always feel l/respond the same way... Unless the character you have chosen to play somehow becomes really strong. You should consider watching this video from Sajam as it encapsulates your entire post pretty well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kInGkIOVhtmrfM0si=otpavXE8enS7NnFG Also, ranked is the competitive mode of the game. It sounds like you'd be happier playing quick match where there are no stakes. But in competitive mode it makes sense that players want to promote consistency and less volatile resulte.

[@maxwortel8986]

Lost me at the 3 min mark -Nobody's entitled to a full set - 1 and done should be applied If the skill difference between the players Is too high (Nobody gets better In this matchup) -time will always be wasted waiting for the next challenger full set or not -with T8's high damage potential learning how to deal with a character mid match becomes a rare occurrence

[@jinpei05]

Tekken 8 has more than its fair share of problems 😅

[@TheXell]

Easy. Just don't play ranked.

[@TheOblomoff]

I just don't care enough to 'learn' the game. So I default to no rematch. Besides, most of the matches aren't close enough, for my doomer attitude to say that I had a chance. One might say: but there's no point, win or lose it's part of the experience. To which I say - yes; but if there's no point, I might as well be winning. And last point - I don't like customizations people come up with. If I had an option to only see default one, I would be rematching 5 times more, no joke. And I do play minion masters. 7 minutes+ is already on the high end of a nice even match. 10 minutes is the crazy long once a year. And I prefer it that way! Battlerite length of the match over League every day.

[@moebaba5360]

If they run, mash, and spam nonstop idc I leave. don't care bout adapting to that playstyle. I enjoy a challenge not getting spammed to death

[@raidennc]

Sounds like you don't enjoy a challenge. It sounds like you enjoy fighting against players who play the exact way you want them to and don't challenge you to change in anyway. Which is fine. It's your right to do so. But it's inaccurate to say you like to be challenged. It sounds like you like to be comfortable

[@hang1893]

Dear God no...... this aint it. There is a different between losing to someone who is just skilled better and beats you with skill. vs someone who knowledge check you to death. I could lose to Anakin, Joecrush, PHIDX, Lil Majin all day long and wouldnt bat an eye. But when you spam with Jin, Jun, Dragunuv its annoying and why would I play 3 sets with You? If you want to win that bad, go ahead but I'm moving on to the next person. Yall expect this some type of honor in "finishing the set" But then when it comes to people spamming the same moves over and over again suddenly its no big deal and just get good. @@raidennc

[@raidennc]

@@hang1893 if you lose to someone "spamming" and not adjusting to it then why TF are you even bringing up Majin and Anakin? You can't beat simple strats. The players you worship don't lose to players you lose to doing at nonsense. They have to figure it out the same way you do. The difference between losing to someone more skilled and someone you deem "less skilled" is still a lack of skill on your part. You're likely not as skilled as you think you are tbh. And that will continue to be the case with your current approach to the game. Do you tho, fam 🫡

[@ZiyaB3ast]

​@@hang1893if you lose to the same option over and over again without adapting, fuck yeah I'm gonna use that same option. You expect me to not take advantage of your weaknesses as a player?

[@natheannzbar7925]

​@@hang1893 that's real!

[@hellhuckerhenry6950]

It's extremely annoying and pathetic, sure, but it's also hilarious how weak those guys are and I cackle at them every time knowing full well they will never make it past blue ranks.

[@SoggyHotDoggy]

Tekken 8 has some issues. One and doneing is annoying, sure, but is this REALLY a huge thing to be upset about? Cause you can do this in a couple of other fighting games, and none of them have gotten this sort of controversy for it

[@TeamFuckSwagg]

Would’ve been PERFECT if it wasn’t for simple controls imo

[@sdotscheckmeout]

Weakling mentality. Finish your sets