Intel's New B580 GPU: Tested on Linux!

[@kaseyboles30]

The other reason HDMI doesn't like OS drivers is "content protection".

[@360Fov]

HDCP, yeah you know me, HDCP

[@1pcfred]

I got your protection for ya right here. If it's on my screen I own it.

[@akam9919]

I hate IM.

[@notuxnobux]

and thats also why all TVs only come with HDMI ports and not display ports..

[@AstralS7orm]

@notuxnobux Eh, DisplayPort also supports HDCP... optionally.

[@KellicTiger]

Thank you Wendel for doing these tests on Linux. No one else seems to be doing anything with Linux. It's understandable, but annoying.

[@connivingkhajiit]

Well gamers nexus did say they might get around to incorporating Linux testing once steamOS comes to desktop

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@connivingkhajiitThat's a good thing, but that could be a year, or even 5+ years from now till Valve releases STEAM OS into the wild for anyone to install, & not just OEM's for specific hardware, so we need the kind of content Wendel is doing now!!

[@mytech6779]

@@CommodoreFan64 SteamOS was already on desktop, they even called them Steam Machines.

[@albundy7718]

A little anecdote, a few german buyers got their hands on the B570 through an error by an online retailer selling them before its release date in January. Now there is a small problem, the newest driver included B580 support but not for the B570 and so they have to wait till January to actually use the card.

[@Machistmo]

Intel: duh dah dun ding

[@AnEagle]

I feel like it should work on Linux, the battlemage driver at least in the git version would need to already be ready for the b570 for it to be ready for launch in January

[@kleinergaming2008]

here's one of the many problems with oems not including driver cds anymore

[@AnEagle]

@kleinergaming2008 you're not supposed to have a 570 at this point, and a driver cd could even break stuff in this kind of situation, if a dependency needs to be pushed on the Microsoft side

[@1pcfred]

@@AnEagle you could likely get it to work by adding the device ID to the driver code. That's often all the difference there is between models.

[@Legion-495]

My body is ready for this video... also YT still translates titles. HELP

[@TheBetabot]

It's actually is getting worse. KZbin auto translated the audio for me.

[@thibaultmol]

​@@TheBetabotatleast that something that you should be able to turn off in the settings. I think it might be helpful for some people to help learn a language, although I'll be honest I don't know what the Quality of these translations are

[@lenOwOo]

​@@thibaultmolit's google translate quality

[@briananeuraysem3321]

Freaky ahh comment

[@walkir2662]

The translated titles are just false advertising, tricking in people that need the translation and ruining average view time. Meaning also gets lost as I have no idea what the origina ltitle is due to Google enforcing its "we know better than the id10t users" mantra @TheBetabot That's opt-out for the video creators @@thibaultmolListening to English video helps with English, listening to an AI mangling your native language doesn't do anything. I also don't know how good it is - the one time I heard that Geman AI voice, I immediately switched it off. It was an unbearably monotone female voice, and I doubt it would have changed voice depending on who of the three men in the video was talking.

[@nakos2000]

All I understood was if I ever want to play RDR2, I will pirate it.

[@1pcfred]

Argh. Shiver me timbers matey.

[@abdou.the.heretic]

I have yet to see a thirld world gamer paying full price (I myself get shafted 40% """import""" tax, plus 10% for every extra 100 bucks of purchase) a 40$ game ends up being 70 ish, fuck that. Edit: my monthly paycheck is 650 bucks...

[@Oguzhan34]

it happens to me it was about the network i just cant play with my home internet or with a vpn only option was my mobile data and worst part is i cant play single player game without internet :)

[@krzysztof7374]

​@@abdou.the.heretic consoom the product, spend money, "own a license" be happy

[@mytech6779]

@@abdou.the.heretic I am not sure you know what the '%' character means. It means "per hundred". So you pay an extra 10 per 100 per 100?

[@Mattia_98]

death to HDMI. DisplayPort everything!

[@magfal]

MST is the best feature.

[@ktfjulien]

Nah hdmi is legit

[@Rayjacker]

@@ktfjulien Except mini and micro HDMI, which need to be buried in a landfill where these brittle connectors belong.

[@kwinzman]

@@ktfjulien legit bad

[@Voyajer.]

​@@ktfjulienHDMI is just DVI wearing a suit

[@xXVentorusXx]

Oh man, thank you for doing this! Been waiting to see these types of tests!

[@MastermindAtWork]

One of the rare people reviewing this card on Linux. Thank you, this is crucial information for my upcoming workstation.

[@utp216]

I’ve been waiting for this! Thanks Wendell!

[@lunarvvolf9606]

"why wait? Get the GPU right now pay a scalper they need your money more than your do." that is how I interpret the Arc B580 reviews because no one is getting a B580 at the MSRP claimed in the big reviewers videos of being only 249.99. Personally I think they should revise the review to reflect the lowest "scalped" price which is no less than $350 currently. In fact I seen my prior gpu the Arc A750 jump from its $250 price point up to $300 like wtf is going on here?

[@bonkerbanker]

I have also been waiting for this!

[@Uro666]

What is the video encoding/decoding performance of this gpu? The reason I ask is that every single review I have seen thusfar, including yourselves and Phoronix** as well as Windows10/11/Gaming reviewers, have avoided doing or publishing the results of any video encoding/decoding benchmarks, so much so that it is standing out as abnormal and almost as if Intel stated/prohibited in their review guides any focus on video encode/decode benchmarks at all. **Phoronix normally goes through media/encoding/decoding benchmarks with every GPU, those have been totally absent from his GPU review of this card. Edit: typo

[@ShikouBakusaijin]

Mmmmm, I want Intel to compete and I want them to suceed, but the silence from the reviewers tingles my spider senses.

[@yasirrakhurrafat1142]

LoL, exactly what I assumed as well. Even speculated that these don't even have any encoders at all.

[@blufireice]

i have a A380 and in tdarr, doing 5 transcodes at a total of 400-600 FPS Depending on source content. less than 10w power draw. i want to do some AI as well, but the 6GB is limiting and if there is a 16gb version of the new Intel cards, it will probably be my upgrade, can't beat the price.

[@ShikouBakusaijin]

@@blufireice That's awesome for the A380! But this is a new architecture, how do we know they didn't remove something to cut costs? I want encoder benchmarks on the specific B580 hardware.

[@benjaminlynch9958]

@@ShikouBakusaijinit would be kind of shocking in 2024 for a new GPU to not have any hardware encoding at all. My baseline assumption (worst case scenario) is that they made zero changes to the encode/decode engines from Arc, and that they’re not being tested for the simple fact that it’s not interesting or worthwhile to do so for launch day. Encode and decode engines are kind of table-stakes in 2024. Without it, the GPU’s should be dead-on-arrival, and I would be shocked if it wasn’t there and nobody called them out on it. Particularly GamersNexus.

[@willfancher9775]

In your Leve1Techs review of this card, I asked why your idle power consumption was so much better than Gamer's Nexus. Glad I watched this video, since you explained the ASPM thing that I had never heard of :)

[@AnthonyThomas-o4l]

That is why they are Level 1. I can't begin to tell you how many "gamer YT channels" miss the boat.

[@lunarvvolf9606]

@@AnthonyThomas-o4l gamers nexus is criminally negligent he didn't even review the gpu's encode & decoding performance in fact none of hte other tech reviewers have but they sure want to get the message that the Arc B580 is a banger deal for $250 usd MSRP when there isn't any stock at that price but I see plenty of scalper listings already none below $350 bucks. To me the reviewers are lying drumming up hype for a mediocre product to make their "scalper" buddies happy because those scalpers are likely friends and family to tech insiders who are privy to inside information giving the wink and nod to those greedy schmucks all the while spreading positive propaganda misinformation to the masses no different than those bozos known as Crypto bros.

[@Mhytron]

@@AnthonyThomas-o4l Don't diss my man Steve like that.

[@59.9fps]

All we need now is NVIDIA desktop CPUs, then the circle will be complete

[@1pcfred]

We need some competition in the CPU space. Team Blue seems to be out of the running these days.

[@davitdavid7165]

They did say they are working on an arm CPU of some kind.

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@davitdavid7165 Nvidia already has Tegra series, and the Jetson single board computers, so who knows, but as long as they work well on Linux, and don't cost a kidney, then i'm good with having more options in the market.

[@hugeburger]

oh boy! i cant wait to pay $2000 for a cpu am i right? 🤦‍♂ pray we never get nvidia manufacturing cpu's, trust me you dont want it.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@hugeburger I was thinking it would be more like alchemist adn the launch of qualcom. Some f the price increasse could be based on licensing both x86 from intel and 64bit from amd

[@Noob2Ever]

I've been waiting for this too!

[@kwinzman]

2026 we are getting unlimited compensatory damages for software bugs in the EU. Even if it's caused by e.g. a free to play game. I am so curious how that will turn out for stuff like this Rockstar breakage.

[@mkeyx82]

You can expect a lot of content will not be available in EU.

[@kwinzman]

@@mkeyx82 It's possible. It's a very bold move, that I didn't expect and I am curious how it will play out. EU Directive 2024/2853 was barely reported on in the mainstream news yet alone discussed by the public but it sounds like the biggest consumer protection change of the last decade.

[@mkeyx82]

@@kwinzmanthis is the first time I hear about it. This kind of protection is one I would gladly pass. Overegulation (as if there's a right amount of regulation) has only one goal: to drive a wedge between people and opportunities. All under a guise of benevolence. I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.

[@panjak323]

​@@mkeyx82Sheep 101. Imagine complaining about basic consumer rights.

[@mysticknight487]

Thanks Stev... Wendel

[@tulsatrash]

I'm very excited for the follow up video.

[@malcaniscsm5184]

Only recently discovered this channel but I really appreciate your Linux content

[@MikeFic]

was waiting for this, thanks.

[@AssassinsFear]

God I hope this works really good on steam OS 3 when it launches because I've been wanting to make a gaming console PC forever and I was going to use steam OS and this GPU seems like a good update for my 2060

[@Skyverb]

I'm upgrading from a 2060 too. Lol. Hyped, and waiting on mine to arrive.

[@bluephreakr]

You don't need to be waiting on this. Chimera OS is a wonderful Steam Deck alternative that's also using Arch, so if you want Arch with KDE as Valve provides it in SteamOS, _there you go._ People had also been recommending Bazzite, which is likely using a lot of the same changes that Nobara has and failing any of that, Linux Mint is pretty solid as babby's fist Linux. I'm plenty-happy with EndeavourOS, but that's just because it's a nice middle-ground between the convenience of Manjaro, and the flexibility of proper Arch. It's convenient in a way which doesn't inconvenience you.

[@jsclayton]

Does Battlemage have any improvements in the media engine over Arc for video transcoding?

[@ShikouBakusaijin]

We need to know this please ☝

[@AnEagle]

I saw an improvement on windows in a review, I think it was ltt, I assume that goes for Linux as well

[@connivingkhajiit]

Yes! I know at least hardware encoding will work with BM using the newer Xe driver, which Alchemist did not.

[@necuz]

@@connivingkhajiit Hardware encoding with Alchemist on the Xe driver totally works... now

[@luisalvarez6196]

Thanks! and Merry Christmas!

[@techzone2009]

I have been waiting for the video. Linux ❤

[@anonymous-rj6ok]

They cattle rustled him!

[@Psytherea]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="336">5:36</a> ah yes drm. actively making their "protectees" worse overall (even if not in performance, but just general compatibility and long term access)

[@majorgnu]

the long term access bit is a feature, not a bug you don't want to have the original competing with the remaster or the shiny new thing TPM 2.0 being a (soft) requirement for Windows 11 is a flashing neon sign around the writing that's been on the wall for may years, now. Microsoft wants everyone on hardware that enables even more dystopian levels of DRM and other crap that conveniently help lock users into Windows. When they deem sufficient people are in the killzone, they'll spring their trap and make TPM 2.0 a *hard* requirement to continue using Windows 11 and its next generation of hardware-backed DRM and widespread requirements for remote attestation for software, service and hardware access.

[@certs743]

Great video. It has been harder to find anything on Intel Arc especially on Linux that is not 6 months or older on KZbin. I recently bought an on sale Asrock Phantom Gaming A770 and so far I am pretty happy. The only game I have had serious issues with is Hogwarts Legacy (really weird glitches than crashes) and Tomb Raider 2016 not even booting. Other than that I have had few issues just lower FPS in Cyberpunk than expected.

[@evildude109]

You know this card was only released like last week, right? There was a flood of videos just days ago about second generation Arc.

[@certs743]

@@evildude109 I am aware the second generation just dropped. So yes. The problem I mentioned is anything on Arc dropped off a cliff months back and it has not been since Battlemage dropped that there is any updates on the entire project at all. Whereas you can find videos every other day on Nvidia and Radeon cards going back to GPUs a decade old at this point. It is just nice to see Intel Arc mentioned at all.

[@吳炯仁]

No sr-iov it a little bit sad, but, looking forward to follow up video.

[@acasccseea4434]

wendel is speaking italian, what i world i live in lol

[@Pacho18]

Latín spanish for me. I terrorized myself

[@stephanematis]

Thanks Wendell

[@TheSyntheticSnake]

Its looking good, looking forward to seeing the followup video for future Mesa updates

[@w0ode198]

Awesome, thanks for testing on the Linux Kernel 🙂 You're awesome Wendel !

[@connivingkhajiit]

I'm sure MESA just needs to do some catching up. I find it has a fine wine effect with these things, I'm still seeing improvements show up on my A770 with new updates that bring better performance. Specifically with cyberpunk and war thunder. Hopefully it becomes more mature when the B770 comes around, which I'm really looking forward to releasing eventually.

[@UbergamR447]

great video! thank you :)

[@prinsuskeeeny5084]

Maaaaan. I'm still pretty happy intel is in the GPU game now and its been years. We need MORE still. We need competition!

[@TheBetabot]

WTF is that auto translated dubbing? Some channels had auto translated titles for the last couple of days, but this is the first video that has straitup ai voiceover.

[@lenOwOo]

Yet another youtube bullshitery,

[@walkir2662]

It's opt-out for the creator.

[@wikwayer]

Some heads need to roll

[@TheBetabot]

@@wikwayer maybe going green Mario is a bit drastic... for now lol

[@wikwayer]

@@TheBetabot what are they censoring the word "Luigi" now (◕‿↼) ?

[@porklaser]

That opening, referring to Intel as player 3. Man, that cut's deep because deep down you know it's true.

[@fireflyslight8155]

Thanks so much I wanted to know about this!

[@jdl3408]

What about encode/decode performance? Seems like a glaring omission from this review.

[@majorgnu]

Why is that important? What are the interesting use cases that require high performance in that department?

[@ReLo_FZR]

DisplayPort all the way , every gpu maker should ditch hdmi as much as posible ( just include a dp to hdmi dongle in the gpu package ) Also nice to see 3xDP and 1xHDMI on that B580

[@engyn0]

"...Not really a fan!" LOL... great comedic delivery! Also, thanks for looking at this card on Linux. I'm intrigued by a low-cost RT capable card without competing with the green-team fanboys. Thanks for this review!

[@Pacho18]

EDIT MYSELF, NOW THAT SR-IOV IS CONFIRMED NOT SUPPORTED: HOW ABOUT VFIO SUPPORT? Still has FLR reset bug as Alchemist?

[@Shadepariah]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="210">3:30</a> Huh, that's funny because somehow or another I'm using HDMI at 4k, HDR and all, into my receiver through an HTPC I built with Arch Linux. I assume the HDMI implementation I'm using is some sort of binary blob then or restricted in some way?

[@isaboll1]

The issue is with the specification of HDMI 2.1. I _also_ use HMDI at 4k, HDR and all on Linux, however _without_ the HDMI 2.1 features, which involves 8k at 60fps, as well as Freesync support through HDMI. The consortium rejected the implementation AMD created in their open source kernel driver to enable that, as they only allow proprietary or closed implementations of the HDMI 2.1 spec. Nvidia gets around this due to having a closed firmware binary to implement this in their drivers, even on Linux. The only way around that for HDMI 2.1 support would be to use a display port to HDMI adapter cord to instead rely on the display port, which doesn't have that, or to use Nvidia. Some cards also have Displayport to HDMI built in, which was referenced in the video

[@michaelgleason4791]

Unless you're running a close sourced binary blob. What he said is true.

[@technautic-music]

Thank you for the video. I work in IT and I don't want to look at Windows at all when I go home. Take care.

[@spuchoa]

Happy to see good compatibility with Linux, the next releases of some Linux distributions (in April) will have day one support.

[@0nceagain333]

Good luck getting one. Scalpers snatched them up.

[@1pcfred]

They can keep them. If I buy one of these it won't be for a few years.

[@Pacho18]

Bet better on B770/780 if it ever comes put, although it won't be competing on anything by the time it releases

[@nextalcupfan]

Since you mentioned single precision FP I'd be interested if Battlemage supports double precision FP. I like to dual purpose my GPUs for Folding at Home and Alchemist couldn't fold at all due to no double precision support.

[@ProjectPhysX]

Yes Battlemage supports double-precision, with FP64:FP32 ratio of 1:16. My OpenCL-Benchmark on the Arc B580 measures ~0.9 TFLOPs/s FP64, ~14.5 TFLOPs/s FP32, and 27.0 TFLOPs/s FP16. For comparison, an RTX 3090 is ~0.6 TFLOPs/s FP64, due to low 1:64 ratio.

[@gunnar6674]

Folding at Home have added the card to their ecosystem too, since it can do double-precision compute unlike the A770. We'll see if any of the science projects will utilize it soon.

[@chamoferindamencha8964]

Been waiting for this, great to see GPU testing on Linux, glad Intel's doing at least pretty good with Linux drivers.

[@scottxiong5844]

I can really see Intel making the best power efficient GPUs for niche workloads that could possibly become mainstream workloads as the markets shift. I would love more data on power efficient and performance on their GPUs compared to competitors. Thanks for the video!

[@jcugnoni]

HDMI shall be given the famous Linus Torvalds Nvidia treatment...and Rockstar as well.

[@armagedon515]

This GPU is around $600+ Cdn in Canada. Insane right now.

[@AlienShine]

Great information! Though, could you maybe use a dark reader for those flashbang webpages, thank you!

[@DJ-Daz]

The world really needs this to be a good GPU.

[@linuxnext]

In my opinion there is a LOT of work needed in mesa/ANV vulkan driver for intel to be on par with their windows drivers, and you need mesa 25 git which most linux users wont use until mesa 25 is fully released, maybe a year from now intel arc gpus will be good enough on linux compared to windows but for now im gonna continue to buy amd gpus as their support for linux is rlly good :) But you def can still get the intel b580 and have a fine time on linux no doubt about it The problem im seeing with linux nowadays is like you said bleeding edge is not the greatest as you need to use git versions of packages which can have bugs and its incomplete software Linux should allow you to mix and match drivers so you can get a better experience with gaming like a simple gui driver manager like you see on mint but instead of just nvidia proprietary drivers showing up you can install other drivers in the kernel or get a newer mesa version without any hassles and the fact mesa should have a different release schedule for gaming related stuff so a gamer has a better experience without needing to use the git version of mesa like on a newest intel or amd gpus great video also!

[@1pcfred]

Intel isn't responsible for Mesa.

[@linuxnext]

@@1pcfred i never said it was, whats your point exactly?

[@1pcfred]

@@linuxnext forget about that let's address what else you've said instead. "Linux should allow you to mix and match drivers". Linux absolutely lets you mix and match and even write your own drivers if you want to. Of course there's varying degrees of difficulty associated with all of that. But you're still allowed to do it. MESA's release schedule has nothing to do with any distros either. You can git clone MESA's repo and have at it. I'm not a package hacker myself but that's a thing. Some software comes with code to generate packages for my distro. I have made my own packaged custom kernels. The Linux kernel itself is one piece of software that has the code to generate packages for my distro. deb-pkg is a make target.

[@linuxnext]

@@1pcfred yeah i know this, im thinking about the average user tho who wants to switch from windows to linux, not someone like you. if you want linux desktop to succeed for gaming you do not want the user needing to compile or add third party repos to get a newer mesa or kernel, it should be just as easy for playing games on linux, simple gui manager for installing newer packages that arent available in the distro's repos or a HWE package so you get newer patches downstreamed from the mainline of mesa like what the kernel does every 6 months but quicker then that

[@1pcfred]

@@linuxnext oh but I do want users compiling code. I want them writing it too. I want them to be amazed at what computers can really do. Let's raise the bar of what average is. The stakes are far higher than most realize. If we just cede our digital autonomy to the technocrats we will be lost. They will ride roughshod over us digital serfs. I know if I was them I would. They're already doing it. Freedom ain't free. We must remain vigilant. Once more unto the breach, dear friends!

[@Wo0dY101]

Thanks for doing this! I was wondering about their support. I have a Dell XPS and its drivers on Linux are amazing wiht intel XE graphics. You are spot on. I need things to run fast but I don't need a 4080 level performance.

[@Burgo361]

Sounds pretty good, might actually be my next card.

[@Maxxarcade]

Is there a known-working DP to HDMI adapter that can be used to get 4k 120Hz on Linux without sacrificing chroma subsampling? I use an LG C2 as my monitor, and an RX-6600. I miss the 120Hz since I quit using Windows over a year ago.

[@urBFFbrighid]

Subscribed! I've been really happy with my A770 in Pop!_OS for the past year or so I've been running it. Not sure I would classify it as a "gaming" or a "workstation" card but instead more of an "enthusiast" level product for tinkerers and such.

[@gatocangrejo]

Can You test it on Blender "on linux" against RTX 4060 Ti?

[@RoboticsDIY]

If HDMI is problematic on Linux, why did Raspberry Pi chose HDMI not Display port? And how are they handling it? I assume they have to pay fee for including it. I haven't fully understood this issue. Does the Linux drivers...or whatever is needed to implement HDMI on a device that runs Linux bad, or is it about the principle that they are not open source?

[@praetorxyn]

Any idea if they'll do a B310 as a transcoding GPU?

[@electricindigoball1244]

Given that the B580 is likely selling at a loss at its MSRP, I doubt Intel will make other Battlemage GPUs (the B570 is using a cut-down version of the same GPU as the one used in the B580) especially given that low end GPUs have smaller profit margins to begin with.

[@itsmilan4069]

​@@electricindigoball1244loss? bruh it's more expensive than the a580 even if it out performs a770 we never knew there would be any card lower than a380 yet we still got a310

[@electricindigoball1244]

@@itsmilan4069 The A310 uses the same DG2-128 GPU as the A380. Making a "new" card by cutting down a GPU that's already in production is not the same as producing an entirely new GPU.

[@mytech6779]

Xe2 with Intel Quick Sync is on Lunar Lake iGPUs if transcoding is all you need, basically like B310 as the codec module is the same. Then you don't need a MOBO and box with space for PCIe slots.

[@gustersongusterson4120]

As someone who works in the AV/event field, HDMI is to be avoided whenever possible. At home for gaming or home theater I went as far as using a 48" oled monitor rather than use a display that only has HDMI. The USB C standard has abandoned HDMI in favor of displayport if memory serves, so maybe we're starting to move in a primary DP preference for high refresh / resolution? Hdmi isn't going anywhere anytime soon obviously, but it's already a second class citizen and I think that will be more often the case moving forward with all the BS from the hdmi consortium.

[@felixspyrou]

This is the way! (LInux)

[@necuz]

So, does Lunar Lake/Battlemage now use the new Xe driver by default or is it also still clunking along on i915?

[@louisstanwu]

This is HIGHLY interesting to a large part of your audience. I like most am getting very tired of Microsoft and their shenanigans. Thanks. Edit: Thanks for the relaxed view on pirated software running properly when the Steam version is borked by Rock Star. Nice.

[@tohur]

to be honest IMO HDMI is best used on TV's and such.. when it comes to PC IMO Display port even with some the issues it has is the superior format.. every monitor comes with it and an cable pretty much now days people need to use it

[@Groovy-Train]

My 1080p 60Hz monitor doesn't have an Display Ports. 😔

[@complexity5545]

All multimedia professional usually only test video (and audio) on HDMI after we've editied on DisplayPort and a Dolby 6.1 sound system (or more). All my sound cards have 16+ channels. HDMI is avoided by pros.

[@hiphoppop45]

Can't wait for it to actually be instock somewhere.

[@Black_Cat_997]

3 months from now this will be a nice option for a Linux PC.

[@skipguenter3711]

When u say "compute" can I substitute "BOINC"?

[@Semi-Detached]

Does Bazzite work with the Intel cards? Thinking about building out a gaming system for the living room and might use this card for it.

[@kingzombie951]

I've been thinking of switching to linux and do researching on graphics card for linux. I also have been researching distro. I thought of getting nvidia card for raytracing cause I never tried it before and want to see if it worth it. I heard nvidia cards don't work well on linux. I've been trying to figure out wich brand raytracing works well on linux

[@1pcfred]

One does not simply think about switching to Linux.

[@connivingkhajiit]

nvidia has a problem on linux in that it does not provide or allow open-source drivers (outside of the reverse engineered noevaue), but those proprietary drivers are pretty good. They do require manual installation usually, since they cannot be shipped with the kernel. RT works good on these cards but not as well as on windows. AMD and intel both provide open source kernel modules, but RT has issues with them. AMD cards have large performance problems compared to windows from what ive garnered, and RT last i recall is non-functioning for ARC with latest mesa.

[@1pcfred]

@@connivingkhajiit Nvidia was the first hardware manufacturer to support Linux on the PC. Let that sink in. I was there for the binary driver release party. Were you? I was running the binary the first hour it was ever released on my MX 200 Playing accelerated GL Quake on Linux. I also see no reason why the Linux kernel can't ship with the Nvidia binary driver besides Linus just being dingly.

[@8bvg300]

Rockstar can't be accused of theft if you never owned it to begin with. Bless the modern EULA

[@jonathan6296]

Would it be possible for you to do a Blender test on Linux an ARC card?

[@Iantrypsk]

Yes, i was waiting for this video. thank you

[@OsX86H3AvY]

id love to see how well this does transcoding either jellyfiin or shinobi

[@fpgamemearray]

on the whole HDMI freesync fiasco: does this mean that if i were to use a displayport to hdmi adapter for, let's say, an LG C2, i would lose freesync support altogether? i though some adapters supported passthrough

[@inappropriatejohnson]

Didn't hear which distro you used. Anyone?

[@tuppytheducky]

I’ve been waiting on this, so glad you’ve done it now

[@RANDOMNATION907]

Have you had a chance to use any of Asrock's new line of PSU's? If so, what do you think of them?

[@montagyuu5163]

Still no support for DRM leasing right?

[@ishanchattopadhyaya8816]

Can it do GPGPU?

[@jaskij]

Speaking of idle... Could you test it without a monitor attached? Arc seems like a great card for homelab transcoding, but I see people recommend against it in Reddit homelab communities because of the idle.

[@cornjulio4033]

Your way of talking is cool :)

[@TheBackyardChemist]

how does it compare to the rx6700xt ? similar price

[@schtive81]

I am not surprised by the actions of the HDMI consortium. They have always been this way with licensing, and I have always been a little cautious about their support on PC hardware. DVI was always superior in my eyes. But maybe not as good of a form factor. As a mid-term Linux user who has been using various different distros since about 2007. I have always noted that Intel has been good with Linux support in general. I have never had an issue getting their embedded GPU drivers to work on various different laptops. The MESA drivers always been stable, even if performance was never as good as the Windows drivers. I think as a general purpose GPU, the B580 seems to be moving in the right direction. It seems pretty low power. Shows promise if you are using various taxing paint programs or 3D software, or perhaps even video editing on Linux, even though it is not one of Linux's strong points. I wonder what Proton performance is like?

[@misamokuzelpizu]

maybe i'm gonna upgrade my rx580 too the b580^^

[@itsmilan4069]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="449">7:29</a> probably after April realistically

[@Pacho18]

Against rx 8000 and rtx 5000 there's no chance

[@kras_mazov]

Is it better to run with Intel CPU, or no difference?

[@mihairomulus2488]

I don't think it makes a difference

[@kras_mazov]

@@mihairomulus2488 Yes, but what if they have some proprietary techs under the hood that only work with Intel.

[@akam9919]

What is the keyboard? I must know.

[@budthecyborg4575]

The only reason I keep buying high end GPUs is because "Budget 4K" video cards didn't exist before the B580. Nvidia with their VRAM slashing horror strategy certainly does sell high end cards, they pushed me to the 7900XTX coming from a 3080. I'd love to put the B580 in my new Linux RAID box just for the sake of having UHBR13.5 on a competent GPU that won't crap out if you plug it into a 4K120hz display.

[@stefantanuwijaya8598]

Biggest bummer for me is that no SR-IOV on this card. But not like there is any consumer GPU with SR-IOV support anyway.

[@ArndBrugman]

How is this card Volume?

[@cosmefulanito5933]

That a game works better non-natively on a system for which it was not designed speaks VERY BADLY about the system for which it was designed. Winows is a bad joke.

[@Arzeefy]

Thanks

[@sitaroartworks]

Many games (especially Unreal engine) requires the environment variable DXVK_FILTER_DEVICE_NAME= followed by card name as it shows under hardware info. Mine it's an Alchemist 580 and I put "Intel(R) Arc(tm) A580 Graphics (DG2)". Other games don't really need any tinkering, just Proton GE 9.20 and above. The situation is good but even better than AMD because overall, I can use the oneAPI hardware acceleration in Blender without pain in the arse like AMD Radeon cards with HIP. Intel need to do only one thing: improve the distribution in Europe.

[@frooastside]

no SR-IOV 😭😭

[@magfal]

HDMI is actual trash. I'll consider a product to be pleb tier if it has HDMI instead of displayport, regardless of other specs.

[@notDacian]

Idk what to say, i got the A770 for running local LLM's, but the performance i got is about 20% lower then the Rx7600XT with a almost 10x idle power difference ~5w for the Rx7600XT vs ~40w for the A770. I tried ASPM and other hacks but i found no way to get the idle power draw down

[@_sneer_]

Xess 1.3 in CP2077 looks much better and works better on my RX6800XT on Linux than FSR 3.

[@dieseldes6578]

Pity about the SR IOV...