How can you tell if someone is a non responder to TMS therapy?

[@ladyj5682]

I’ve had 24 sessions and I don’t feel much different. I am in tears because I am sick of feeling this way

[@slick_kitten]

I'm sorry..

[@ladyj5682]

@@slick_kitten Thanks. I have an update! I researched people's journey on KZbin and took the advice of someone experiencing the same thing. I asked to be remapped and the dosage increased. Within 2 weeks I was feeling consistently better and now realize how low I really was and that's 😨 scary. I even had someone say your so pleasant and funny you need to pretend your sick????? I didn't pretend but I advocated for myself and fought for treatment. I now want to advocate for those who keep existing and pushing through yet getting zero treatment like TMS. Also insurance extended treatment for 10 days

[@slick_kitten]

@@ladyj5682 that's fantastic news! I'm so happy for you. I know how it feels to feel so depressed and hopeless. I'm in a similar situation. I have completed almost 15 sessions and I haven't felt much of a difference if any. I'm thinking about asking to increase the dosage and remap myself also. I hope I can have some results. I'm so tired of feeling sick and unhappy.

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

@@ladyj5682How did you get insurance to extend treatment by 10 days? How many sessions did you go for in total? 46?

[@LostSockDrawer]

I know you felt sick, but I hope you've realized the only antidote to pain is inside of you, and only you can work to find it. I suggest listening to binureal beats if you're looking for a sure quick way to escape

[@coupdefoudre5352]

I have Treatment Resistant Depression and will take the risk if approved for treatment. Frankly at this point I doubt I could possibly feel any lower. My life is pure hell and will certainly give it a go. Some people said their depression came back or worse some time later and at this point I’m so desperate I welcome some relief, I really need a break .

[@AC-pw7rl]

sorry to hear that , my father always says he live in hell

[@coupdefoudre5352]

信義林 So sweet of you. I just found out that the clinic that was providing the treatment is no longer accepting new patients due to the plandemic. Unbelievable that the world stopped because of this virus. The only hope I had is gone. God help me, I need a miracle.

[@Charles31822]

Midi Minuit Any relief? I’m so sorry

[@coupdefoudre5352]

信義林 I’m so sorry for your dad, I know his pain, it’s pure hell. Has your dad tried any type of treatments like ECT or Esketamine Infusions? The Esketamine Infusions is what I decided to get, terribly expensive, almost $5,000.00, and I’ll have to borrow a lot of money but at this point I have no choice. I simply can’t continue to live this way. I am bedridden now. I can’t function. Help your father as much as you can, please don’t let him suffer, believe me when I tell you it is a pain like no other. Then it affects your body physically, I’m always in pain, all parts of my body hurts. So please, if you can afford to get your father the best possible care, do so. Always do all you can for your parents.

[@Charles31822]

Midi Minuit Praying for you to find some relief. That IS a Lot of money. There seem to be more and more places offering similar IV options. If you’re paying out of pocket, try shopping around and negotiating the price.

[@valerieangell7588]

I’ve had this treatment,and it was quite successful.But,six or seven months later,I noticed I was slipping back into depression.Unfortunately,I had taken residence in a country that had very few clinics that offered TMS,all of them a considerable distance from where I lived.Im now returning to United States,where it is far easier to receive treatment,and feel very hopeful as to my recovery.

[@jmuduke99]

I've just started my TMS treatments. Hopefully it helps . .

[@some11223344]

@@jmuduke99 how are you today ? Any Improvement ?

[@Rodicxsx]

Any improvement?

[@beverlyhollenbeck3406]

OK, I totally get that left or right handedness indicates on which side of the brain to stimulate. What if you were "corrected" from left to righthandedness as a child, and are in many ways ambidextrous?

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

There’s no way to know for sure whether left or right side is the correct side. It’s just trial and error. Some left handed people respond to left sided treatment.

[@nolesy34]

Well this is something that has been trained in memory.. something like muscle memory and is different from a reflex like hearing a sound and respondong a certain way Its possible it will be (untrained) changed but can be re trained

[@nathantoney.1501]

So my only effect from tms so far (15) is increased anxiety.

[@sabadacmarian7056]

I have the same problem

[@Whyismytacoblue666]

@@sabadacmarian7056did it get better?

[@davo9129]

I wonder if my low qaulity insurance would cover this treatment. Is it really expensive?

[@ladyj5682]

Insurance are starting to cover it. You can write an appeal or ask the facility to do an appeal based on your treat history. My insurance looked at my low failure on meds and partial patient hospitalizations as well. They approved 36 sessions with expansion of 10 when I wasn't feeling the best

[@marlisemarai9552]

I just started tms. I’m on my 3rd day. I’m so excited

[@cpymo]

How are you today?

[@jayng153]

Update please..

[@NinersFan69]

i just started today and its weird but i feel like its already working .feel stupid even saying that though.

[@sabadacmarian7056]

The placebo effect is working ,tms it's a big lie on big money😢

[@marlisemarai9552]

@@cpymo I’m not 100% better but I’m definitely in a better place mentally than I was before tms. I’m actually on my 3rd round of 36 sessions now ☺️

[@sharlaharris8120]

Does TMS work for cluster headaches?

[@nolesy34]

Yes, these headaches, often the result of a "cluster#&k" will eventually go away after extended treatment The di^*kheads that cause the problem and the ones who should be getting the treatment will still be around unfortunately

[@matovicmmilan]

That's great, there is always a chance of sudden response but a single TMS session costs 75 Euro at two separate clinics where I underwent TMS...So in order to not rob somebody on top of not helping him/her, the predictability of who's likely to (not) respond should be a priority!

[@gardensofthegods]

We're wondering if my brother could use this therapy to help heal the amygdala because we found out that the type of extreme chemical sensitivity he has actually means the limbic part of the brain is damaged... every type of chemical smell and synthetic is making him really ill.. he now has to wear a respirator to drive his own car and even the smell of the dry cleaning on his clothing made things so bad in the house he had to rent an air scrubber but he said that made things worse and he says the smell of all HEPA filters even in the vacuum cleaners make him sick. Can somebody please weigh in on this and let us know if it is used for other than just depression and OCD

[@AlejandroCello]

He may need to assess his CBS enzyme function. Chemical sensitivity is linked to low glutathione production. It could also be an issue with the enzymes associated with it such as GPX Glutathione Peroxidase GST - Glutathione Transferase etc. Dr Ben Lynch has good material on this online.

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

There are lots of off label protocols using TMS but insurance is unlikely to cover it unless it can somehow be coded as an alternate protocol for depression or OCD.

[@nolesy34]

Off the topic but could exposure therapy help possibly?

[@JustME-ft4di]

@@nolesy34no!

[@adamcollins1390]

hi just wondering wether tms treatment can treat apathy. thank you

[@nolesy34]

Don't know dont care

[@aubreya2641]

How does being left handed change how they treat? And what are these 'payment methods'?

[@mitchymitchasmr]

If you’re left handed, your motor cortex is on the right side of your head. So they’d place the magnet on the right side instead of the left That’s what my Dr said this week at my TMS session

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

@@mitchymitchasmr What doctor do you have? Mine said it doesn’t matter if you’re left handed. Always left DLPFC. 😂 The research seems to indicate it may or may not be reversed for left handed patients.

[@mmedeuxchevaux]

I think Ketamine is more effective for depression.

[@homounsapiens1287]

Cheap too n totally covered by health insurance no questions asked. God bless the USA

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

It depends on which insurance you have, some of them do question it a lot

[@davida7559]

10 thousand dollars every 6 weeks. I guess you better be Rich

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

Some places charge $20k+ it’s insane.

[@slick_kitten]

Some insurance companies cover it. Mine does..

[@nolesy34]

Laughs in money

[@scotty2221]

I did 36 sessions and it never worked. We re-mapped me 3x and still nothing. UGHHH. I GIVE UP. Last session was today. The Dr. said it just didn't work for me. Thanks for wasting my time DOCTOR!!! There goes all my time and money. Thanks for NOTHING!

[@taejuk6155]

Im about doing it is it really wasting time?

[@taejuk6155]

Or give results???

[@taejuk6155]

I have a severe ocd and anixety

[@scotty2221]

@@taejuk6155 For me it was. You might feel better for a few days but it doesn't last and you have to keep doing it each year. It hurts and it's just a waste. Stay with medicine and exercise if you can.

[@drewmanning1025]

Why does it hurt?