Tellius? More like "Honey tellius all about him!" I'm sorry, I'll see myself out
@JugandoConDanjo4 жыл бұрын
Insert Trixie Mattel saying "Oh, Honey"
@blakenapier3125Ай бұрын
Ike can’t be Gay forever and that’s not right! I want The LGBTQF to accept Ike Straight
@moonmelons4 жыл бұрын
Soren's blatant racism is actually one of the best handlings of racism in fiction. It doesn't just come from nowhere. Soren wasn't just born one day and went "Goddamn I just fucking hate Laguz". Soren himself is half Beorc half Laguz and the Laguz typically at best feel offput by them because they look like Beorc but the Laguz can sort of sense the Laguz in them and it feels wrong to them. Or at worst absolutely hate them because children between Beorc and Laguz are seen as an affront to the Gods. The isolation and hatred Soren and Stefan experienced they both handled in different ways with Stefan's being the healthier of the two, but given the kind of character Soren is it's hard to hold it against him. This is a man that was afraid IKE, motherfucking IKE was going to hate him if he learned he was half Laguz, and the Laguz hatred of half-Beorc half-Laguz is known to be much worse than the Beorc hatred for them. Soren's seen some shit, and the fear from those experiences played a very strong role in his blatant racism later on. Soren's racism was still wrong, but I am not about to hear any shit thrown at my man over it when he was willing to change when Ike showed him the world can be a better place than the hell he was shit out of it into.
@Master1Morrison2 жыл бұрын
Soren literally was hated/ignored for just existing So he hated them I love how you put it His hatred wasn’t without merit when people just turn your back on you for something You cannot change he wasn’t right to fight fire with fire but ya Soren got better I love the Ike Soren ship
@moka5996 Жыл бұрын
i dont think u need a villain origin story to be racist i dont think thats what makes it the "best handling" lmao
@WhiteCresentKnight4 жыл бұрын
Even in Heroes Soren’s lv40 conversation it’s implied that even if he likes the summoner liking Ike is a requirement. You either like Ike too or Soren throws you to the side
@Cassapphic4 жыл бұрын
Silas is bisexual-> Claude is bisexual-> Seteth is a boomer-> Telius is gay-> fire emblem is gay-> war is gay
@maxmoroney46074 жыл бұрын
I love this implication that boomer is a sexuality
@TTRPGSarvis4 жыл бұрын
Gay. Gay never changes.
@daryehl59104 жыл бұрын
I see where that's going. Everybody is gay, the planet is gay, the galaxy is gay and the universe and god are gay.
@FelixEarth4 жыл бұрын
You know, I always hoped that Silas could have a S support with Male Corrin....I mean, his supports are all about him going "crazy" on him
@darkwalkervisiondominguez16914 жыл бұрын
Fire emblem is not gay chrom is not
@VacuumTan4 жыл бұрын
this is slander, zelgius is clearly a service top
@rojx644 жыл бұрын
He is power bottom tbh
@emotional_st0rm4 жыл бұрын
Total switch, they mix it up
@jasonreidly20914 жыл бұрын
Sephiran is definitely a power bottom.
@maria.4564 жыл бұрын
Mamodxx: calls Zelgius the biggest bottom in FE *interesting maneuver*
@noahkirschtein81693 жыл бұрын
you almost killed me i just choked help-
@kyrroti4 жыл бұрын
I should probably get around to finishing Radiant Dawn.
@hheecckk5264 жыл бұрын
I'm at the tower so I could finish it. But that means using the dawn brigade again
@SlayerKast4 жыл бұрын
The best part is, even if Ike's asexual, it doesn't detract from IkexSoren or IkexRanulf - he could still be romantically interested without being sexually interested.
@elpopman20554 жыл бұрын
it's still a headcanon regardless.. Ike eventually made a woman and had a Kid... the only thing that's out of character is ike leaving the greil mercenaries behind... it was up to me Ike and the Greil mercenaries would depart Tellus together and eventually going to the outrealms somehow.
@LunartailSteffi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, was about to make this comment myself but glad someone else is pointing it out. As an asexual, it hurts when people stereotype that asexuals don't (or can't) have romantic feelings for another person. We can and do still feel love for people to the point that we would want to spend the rest of our lives with that other person.
@MegaPokefan974 жыл бұрын
Plus, Priam
@reeceenglish52014 жыл бұрын
@@MegaPokefan97 What about him? Is he canon? How do you know he's not Mist's son? How do you know he's not lying about being descended from Ike for clout? Do you have any evidence that Priam is with 100% certainty Ike's son or can you just not bear the thought of a gay character?
@thesilkenmanster82084 жыл бұрын
@@reeceenglish5201 Uh...yes he's canon. Just because he makes the case for your non-canon ship (I don't think Priam disputes Ike/Soren or Ranulf much bc I see Ike as bi and his existence doesn't rewrite Ike's previous relationships) a bit weaker doesn't mean he's not real. He has some cipher cards and placements in CYL to reinforce that he exists. He's not Mist's son because Mist doesn't leave Tellius and Priam was created as an homage for Ike not his sis. He's not lying for clout since we have no reason to believe he is, unless of course we're that damn passionate about IkeSoren. It can be very safely implied that he is Ike's direct descendant, but this is post-Kaga so very little is 100% certain for things like these. Again, headcanons are headcanons, let's not force them!
@SharurFoF4 жыл бұрын
Zelgius to Sephiran: "As you wish" Narrator Peter Falk: "That day, Sephiran was amazed to discover that every time Zelgius said 'As you wish', what he really meant was, 'I love you'".
@thattimestampguy4 жыл бұрын
1:57 Elincia & Lucia, Blood Sisters 3:46 Reyson & Tibarn, Love Birdy 5:04 Nephenee & Heather, Country Girls 6:26 Zelgius & Sephiran 8:31 Ike's Court 9:29 Ike & Elincia 10:47 Ike & Sothe, Inspiration 11:38 Ike & Ranulf, Admiration 12:34 Ike & Soren, Love 14:28 Ike's Sexuality 16:16 Priam Mist & Jill 18:15 Gatrie 18:59 Kyza 19:23 Oliver 19:47 Mia & Illyana , Leonardo & Edward 20:09 Tellius (This will get many views in the coming weeks)
@Mamodxx4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Time Stamp Guy
@grapes48324 жыл бұрын
This is dope
@felipe25574 жыл бұрын
''Now if only they added people of color'' but Danved fights like ten man, like bear, because Danved is pretty amazing.
@kinglywaves14744 жыл бұрын
“Now if they only added people of color to fire emblem “ and that’s on Claude being the only noticeable lord of color in 2019 let that sink in.
@danielshepard30674 жыл бұрын
Muar Har hee hi hoo
@NaijeruMizuho4 жыл бұрын
I like to headcanon that blue hair in Fire Emblem is a dominant gene. Mist's kid could inherit Elena's blue hair and it'd likely persist throughout the generations.
@WickedBlondie4 жыл бұрын
If it's dominant,that means Mist would be unable to pass it on as she doesn't have blue hair. Dominant genes can only be passed on when present in parents. Recessive genes can pop up anywhere. That's why blonde people can be born to brown-haired parents(since you only need one dominant gene for it to present)
@NaijeruMizuho4 жыл бұрын
@@WickedBlondie Ah... shit. 🤔
@micheledelloglio58204 жыл бұрын
The fact is that the only proof that Priam is actually descendant of Ike is Ragnell. And Ragnell is not a "Prf" weapon anymore and everyone with A Sword skill can actually use it. Priam could be either a descendant of Mist or the descendant of an apprentice of Ike. Ike loves fighting and improving himself, he is the kind of guy who would take an apprentice and pass the Ragnell when he becomes worthy.
@WickedBlondie4 жыл бұрын
@@NaijeruMizuho but if you say it's recessive your theory checks out,especially due to the genwtics of chrom/lucina/marth/caeda,seeing as the two ancestors of the Ylissean throne(Marth/Caeda) have blue hair. If it's recessive,then it will carry through most if not all of the children,even if it doesn't show. If it's the same with blue hair,your theory can check out and the blue hair can skip a generation,if Mist marries someone with blue hair or even if one of mist's descendants does
@mtj88704 жыл бұрын
Oh so that's why smash fans think everyone with blue hair is marth
@yohann38254 жыл бұрын
The Tibarn and Reyson one I can't-
@lasko18284 жыл бұрын
I would also mention Rhys buuuuuut...I forgot that he is married to the Lord.
@johnnypetronel8 ай бұрын
After reading a fanfic in which he goes to Serenes Forest and runs into Ulki, I am now forced to say: "I beg to differ"
@reachforthestarsaldc64884 жыл бұрын
Thought this was gonna be some sort of Gay or European thing.
@Foxodawg4 жыл бұрын
Is he Gay or Tellian?
@chavahuwu46844 жыл бұрын
@@Foxodawg He's gay AND tellian and neither is disgrace😌
@KaganeInugami3 жыл бұрын
God freaking damnit I wish I was Tellian
@downbeatdialga13414 жыл бұрын
20:28 Say it again!! People of color in FE needs to be more prevalent. Basilio, Flavia, Gray and Claude were all pretty good attempts, and I can very much appreciate that, though I myself would like to be black in FE. Pokémon has even started this since X and Y (2013), but I hope eventually those doors open to in other games. Etika was a big fire emblem YT around the time of Awakening (rest his soul).
@robink3894 жыл бұрын
Dedue is also a good attempt in my book.
@mtj88704 жыл бұрын
I was always like yeah where are they. Top 10 non-white fe characters(pre 3h):
@MissNoodlez4 жыл бұрын
W-what about devdan and dandev?
@epichal48834 жыл бұрын
Don't forget my bois Garret and Jaffar.
@downbeatdialga13414 жыл бұрын
Gustav 123 ain’t an agenda, I just think realizing their audience has grown and being more open to that in terms of player customization would be nice.
@Lizard14 Жыл бұрын
Arguments that Ike is gay: -2 paired endings with men -Absolutely no interest and actually being uncomfortable by women hitting on him, as demonstrated several times during both games -One of those women gives gifts to Soren to get Ike's attention -All of Soren's and Ranulf's A supports in PoR -The amazing secret conversation where Soren and Ike embrace right before the final boss -The artbook and drama CDs literally say Ike loves Soren -Ike and Soren fit a very common BL stereotype in japanese media, Ike is a textbook seme and Soren is the standard uke -Every lord in Fire Emblem ever has paired endings where they get married -Every LGBTQ+ ending in FE is toned down and written like Ike's paired endings, instead of "and then they got married" -Soren's recent appearance in Engage and the dialogues between him and Ike (and I'm sure there's more) Arguments that Ike is straight: -Priam, the weird DLC fanservice character in another game - that's part of a pack of DLC that includes villain characters that die during the story - that claims he's Ike descendant, even though they're not even a part of the same universe and they have nothing in common except using a (breakable, not blessed by the goddess) Ragnell. (by the way, Ike didn't even keep Ragnell after the games)
@CrashDAMFCourse Жыл бұрын
Ike and Soren relationship is literally Sonic and Tails's relationship.
@sleewpy_ Жыл бұрын
Plz. Plz don't give me more fuel. I beg u
@betaabe39614 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Tellius isn't gay... IT'S SUPER GAY!
@Tatsukoi.muffin4 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@thedreambirds4 жыл бұрын
They had us in the first half ngl
@Jauloid4 жыл бұрын
Where do I sign up to live in an all-gay continent?
@mjc32064 жыл бұрын
Jaumander I dunno but when you find out hit me up 😂
@davidduran4454 жыл бұрын
я люблю собак
@LyrinaeSings4 жыл бұрын
the whole video's a masterpiece but thank you especially for the elincia/lucia rights
@philippuente43224 жыл бұрын
3:34 "That's gay." Lovely. EDIT: Did... you just imply that getting tied up is Reyson's kink? Like when he was captured by Oliver?
@luckyc4t1104 жыл бұрын
STOP
@silviaeaber4 жыл бұрын
The magic word is CONSENT
@ikethethotslayercertifiedw57824 жыл бұрын
uh oh
@kylekrupa94764 жыл бұрын
Is Telius gay: yes Is Ike gay: riots in the street
@bigjavi83754 жыл бұрын
I'm just here waiting for a Tellius remake
@barnacle-v2e3 жыл бұрын
or HD port😭 like with Skyward Sword
@thereaIitsybitsyspider4 жыл бұрын
I've said it once, and I'll say it again. The literal soil on the earth in Tellius is gay.
@CursedCatTruffa3 жыл бұрын
Ashunera planted the seeds of gay when she created the land of Tellius
@eroschama4 жыл бұрын
Tellius said Gay Rights
@oscelios27034 жыл бұрын
Now I want bridal oliver in FEH, damn you
@adriftingstar36084 жыл бұрын
Ike/Soren is the only good thing left in this world.
@LunarBoo2 ай бұрын
Ike x Soren is real, I find it so funny when people bring up Priam as though Awakening's SpotPass paralogues made any sense even within the context of Awakening itself lol
@BlackKnightsCommander4 жыл бұрын
"if only they had people of color in Fire Emblem." I mean, there aren't many, but Devdan, Claude and Dedue exist. Devdan is kinda meh, but both Claude and Dedue go through realistic struggles regarding their race so I think they definitely count.
@zant414 жыл бұрын
Don't forget mah boi Garrett
@savontorres21404 жыл бұрын
Devdan can't really have a struggle with his race when there is already a race war between people with actual differences . Also why does having a struggle with your race validate a character more then others ?
@CrickettoSantalune4 жыл бұрын
There are many color characters in FE Athena Garrett Cormag Devdan Danved Basilio Flavia Gregor Niles Claude Dedue Bruno/Zacharias Hawkeye Igrene Surtr Laegjarn Laevatein Helbindi Petra Hapi
@BlackKnightsCommander4 жыл бұрын
@@CrickettoSantalune that is not that many.
@reeceenglish52014 жыл бұрын
@@CrickettoSantalune Out of 15+ games thats a terribly low amount 👀
@Athorment4 жыл бұрын
"Where the queen went, Lucia followed. Their love was fabled to be stronger than even most blood sisters..... That's gay...."
@slowpokefriedrice4 жыл бұрын
What about Sigrun and Tanith? I think their bridal alts in FEH pretty much confirmed them as lesbians Also Ike and Soren wear matching bracelets in their Valentine’s alt
@Mamodxx4 жыл бұрын
I thought about putting them in because I absolutely pair them, but I couldn't find enough evidence within the actual Tellius games compared to the pairs I picked. Their love is very obvious in Heroes though!
@mtj88704 жыл бұрын
Apparently mist and greil wear the same bracelets bc they're supposed to symbolize familial love (so i geuss soren is part of the family now?)
@CursedCatTruffa3 жыл бұрын
@@mtj8870 Soren married in the family, ofc he's family!
@khfan68644 жыл бұрын
I just remembered the another Sora x Riku moment. KH2 = Sora sees Kairi: „yay! Found you“ Sora sees Riku „I FINALLY FOUND YOU *tears up*“
@sajanpatel49563 жыл бұрын
riku and sora have made way more sense than sora and kairi since the start of the series, even in kh1 sora basically forgets about kairi and is always chasing after riku
@darby96874 жыл бұрын
Can't forget Skrimir lusting after Soren lol
@ikethethotslayercertifiedw57824 жыл бұрын
Context???
@DrewPicklesTheDark4 жыл бұрын
@@ikethethotslayercertifiedw5782 He ends up admiring him, but honestly I never saw anything that implied he had the hots for him.
@shinyblue47748 ай бұрын
@@ikethethotslayercertifiedw57823 years later, Skirmir had THE HOTS for Soren cos he was amused that a short skinny guy could not only handle magic like a champ, but was a master strategist! Not only that but they share a line where Skirmir tells Soren to sit besides him (rather than Soren's normal place at Ike's side), and Soren simply responds "Not even if you *begged* me Skirmir" So, lion man tried.
@dylanjw104 жыл бұрын
Im so glad i played Sacred Stones and the Tellius Games back to back cause those games pretty much helped me be more open about being Bisexual.
@bananasoule70764 жыл бұрын
Ike x Soren x Ranulf, someone draw that.
@josueravena34644 жыл бұрын
Threesome huh? Nice.
@gabrielsobral66824 жыл бұрын
Hentai artists: It´s free real state
@rikulovespaopu42704 жыл бұрын
Believe me it already exists
@mtj88704 жыл бұрын
@@rikulovespaopu4270 no it doesn't. Believe me i've *looked*
@kylefreeburg93534 жыл бұрын
@@mtj8870 apparently not very hard, I've seen it and I wasn't even looking
@fischure84804 жыл бұрын
The Tellius games are "woke" games done right when you really consider it, they cover topics like homosexuality and racism without shoving them straight into our faces, which is something modern games really struggle with
@e_cube4631 Жыл бұрын
your delivery of "that's gay" at 3:33 was incredible i nearly spat out my drink. so sudden... so true
@ysffff4 жыл бұрын
Millc The entire continent or the two games or both
@Mamodxx4 жыл бұрын
Millc Both
@Muriuki344 жыл бұрын
Yes
@thesininsinnoh51844 жыл бұрын
me: *smiling proudly while watching the whole video, even though I already know everyone's gay*
@rojx644 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is
@mjc32064 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah it is
@davidduran4454 жыл бұрын
Za warudo
@mtj88704 жыл бұрын
When i played shadow dragon and was like "wow no token gay characters? 1/10 no wonder why everybody loves tellius"
@Mamodxx4 жыл бұрын
CORRECTION! I messed up with Kyza's bit. I wasn't fully aware they were trans. I completely missed that when doing research and writing my script. In the Japanese version of Radiant Dawn, Kyza is referred to as a woman. The Tellius book that depicts Ike's feelings for Soren and Ranulf's feelings toward Ike it talks about Kyza having a male body, but a female heart. Sorry I missed that! I meant no disrespect by it. I'm considering making a Fire Emblem Trans video in the future. If I do, I will talk about Kyza there. Thanks
@Panroles Жыл бұрын
I love how in the Priam arguments people completely disregard the fact that gay people have been having children for all of human history, whether it be through adoption or surrogacy. Priam and Ike/Soren shouldn't have to be mutually exclusive. (Though I do agree that Priam was just made because Ike was popular from smashbros.)
@allyrose94943 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, *There is gay everywhere and I am LIVING for it!*
@radiatingvows81934 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder that Priams S support with female Robin is the same wording as sorens death quote in RD , Priam acts and looks like Ike and his way of showing affection is similar to Soren, hm I wonder which two characters IS had in mind while making him. XD
@EzraH2144 жыл бұрын
if that were true then priam would be an adopted son not biological I mean no offence but when two guys get married they can't have children(btw it's not real marriage, marriage is a Sacred thing and having gay marriage is a sacrilege against real marriage
@hansonlee58474 жыл бұрын
@@EzraH214 If you look at the history of marriage, it is by far one of the most fluid rituals in human history. For example, back then, people married not because of love but for political or economic gain. Also, when Churches began to host marriage ceremonies, divorce was completely out of the question until the rise of feminism. What's considered sacred will usually be obsolete based on actual history of marriage. Thus, saying marriage is a sacred covenant between man and woman is a specious argument at best especially when the perspectives of marriage never stayed constant. As a matter of fact, Roman Emperor Nero had two husbands, and this was before the Church established the sanctimony of marriage
@TTRPGSarvis4 жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that Priam is Ike's descendant, and biological. His ancestor was born through surrogacy and raised by Ike and Soren.
@blablablubb76234 жыл бұрын
Why can't we just agree that Soren is trans and he had Ike's child
@thewanderer_ii4 жыл бұрын
Id bet money that Brom would support and defend Nephenee & Heather, cause Brom is best boy Also Im honestly surprised there wasnt a conversation between Gatrie and Rafiel where he hits on him lmaoo
@thereaIitsybitsyspider4 жыл бұрын
The reason gay pairings aren't overt in Tellius is because the game would literally lose sales and likely be banned in several countries. Also, if they rereleased Radiant Dawn and made the gay couples canon, the same people who call Ike x Soren bromance would blame the shipping community for making IS "change the canon."
@mtj88704 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the only gay "canon" ships we got in 3h were linhardt and yuri, who you gotta pay 25 bucks for
@thereaIitsybitsyspider4 жыл бұрын
@@mtj8870 I'm not sure I would consider being Bylethsexual to be gay. They couldn't even give these characters other male options to make them Bisexual.
@mtj88704 жыл бұрын
@@thereaIitsybitsyspider caspar*
@Tatsukoi.muffin4 жыл бұрын
@@thereaIitsybitsyspider and Balthus.
@phoenix50544 жыл бұрын
Homophobic countries are irrelevant anyway in terms of game sales. North America, Europe, and Japan are the only ones that mostly matter. China has their own game ecosystem which doesn't involve Nintendo (or any Japanese console).
@ZekDrakonEX4 жыл бұрын
I can see Elincia having Male Lover just for Heir to avoid a crisis of No heir what going happen to kingdom Syndrome, then getting with Gal pal Lucia her true lover.
@vichycatalan4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite pairings is Muarim x Zihark, it's really heartwarming and they basically go on a date. And that support ending... Caineghis x Greil is something that is very implied, especially from Caineghis side. The way he talks about Greil says a lot... He doesn't even have direct descendants and his nephew had to be the next on the throne. It makes you think... Very good video.
@MasterEnex4 жыл бұрын
**Read the title of the video** Me: Oh boy, here we go again
@maxmoroney46074 жыл бұрын
BIG AGREE Mamo has been fighting the good fight for how Tellius is gay for years now and I will never not love him for it
@daryehl59104 жыл бұрын
Ike is the best protagonist because he's different. Marth, Roy, Alm and Eliwood look very much the same generic and kind nobleman. Ike is a commoner he's blunt. I like that on him
@suffy83964 жыл бұрын
Reminder if you naturally assume a character is straight and makes being gay an add on to their character y’all are homophobic as fuck but y’all ain’t ready for that conversation yet.
@PocketDong4 жыл бұрын
Yeah umm no? There is nothing wrong with being gay or liking gay ships but being straight is how all species are designed to be of course that's what we assume because we are straight so we assume other people are straight it's kind of common sense.
@ikoaru78373 жыл бұрын
This is my comfort video now
@Alexie4 жыл бұрын
Before I do it, tell me why I should watch a 20 minute video called Fire Emblem is gay
@Mamodxx4 жыл бұрын
To have more knowledge of the pairings you see when you're recording your review videos
@zant414 жыл бұрын
To get ideas for your next Hentai review
@angelicacastillo7488 Жыл бұрын
I Love the way you narrate!!
@mtsilverpeak4 жыл бұрын
Ike and Soren be like *disappears from the face of earth but TOGETHER.*
@Gamer_Gunker4 жыл бұрын
In the Radiant dawn art book I'm pretty sure it says that Kyza may have the body of a man but they have the heart of a woman. So they might be trans! I could be be remembering wrong though
@Mamodxx4 жыл бұрын
You're correct, actually. A friend of mine pointed that out after watching this video. I completely missed it when writing this script. I'll be sure to cover it in a later video though
@zant414 жыл бұрын
Heart of a woman could just mean that he's kind and caring tho
@Terrgore4 жыл бұрын
Kinda stretching right there mate. Men can be kind and sensitive without being gay or trans.
@anyan724 жыл бұрын
Great video! I like to think that Zelgius and sephiran are kind of like an alternate timeline Ike and Soren. Or maybe like some kind of foil ship? Just two souls devoted to each other, even if the rest of the world is against them.
@CursedCatTruffa3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, along with Sothe and Micaiah these three ships definitely foils each other in many ways
@PocketDong4 жыл бұрын
You know he was racist because it was pent up resentment against himself because he is half laguz, so I always thought him being racist and overcoming it was great because it showed him accepting himself he didn't hate laguz he hated being half laguz and the pain it caused him, I legitimately don't understand how people say they don't like Soren because he is "racist" Its self hatred that he needs to grow past and I find that very compelling people that just call it racism and dislike him for that just don't see the bigger picture or they just want a reason to dislike him.
@Kammyjams4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with this. Disliking Soren due to his racism is valid!! Nothing justifies racism, not even internalized racism! Overcoming it is good but he should still be held accountable for it. I like Soren a lot, I even made a comment very similar (even though I worded it very wrong) but at the end of the day, Racism is wrong, point blank, and people have every right to dislike and not accept Soren for it!!!
@weridplusho3 жыл бұрын
@@Kammyjams It's not valid, it's petty. Disliking Soren for his "racism" is basically admitting to not paying attention to the entire point of him having that trait and the narrative at large. Because Soren is, pointedly, not the only one. You'd have to also hate Lethe, for example, because she's also a racist at the start. Not only that, Soren isn't really racist. His entire hatred for laguz doesn't come from them _being laguz_ but from the way they treated him in Gallia. At least the beorc _noticed_ him, and he has a positive example with Ike. The laguz outright ignored his existence simply because of being a half-breed, one of the most racist things. Soren's feelings are valid considering. There's nothing to be held accountable for since, 1) Ike handles that right in games, 2) Soren grows past it (Skirmir's interest is very much on purpose) and learns to not let his past dictate the present and future. By simplifying it as "racism is wrong no matter what", you're doing a disservice (if not outright ignoring) to the lesson the games were trying to teach. The world isn't black and white.
@byletheisner826911 ай бұрын
@@weridplusho i think most people in soren's situation would turn out like him. if a group (the laguz) is brainwashed into hating half beorc half laguz (soren), and have shown him /nothing/ but hate when his life was already extremely difficult, of course he's going to hate them back. hard to be a perfect person in this situation. this story's racism is not real life racism, it is not at all representative of /real life racism/ against poc, where i agree that it is never justified and understandably hard to forgive.
@VermilionRen4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad to see that Caineghis and Giffca weren't in the vid. I love those two big cats so much 🥰
@Rolli_Zolli4 жыл бұрын
i have these games high up on my "to play" list. i just gotta finish up all the other RPGs i'm already playing first...so, see y'all in a decade or two!
@WhiteCresentKnight4 жыл бұрын
Also Ike and Soren could have just asked someone to be a surrogate so they could have kids.
@sophiaisagoodunit86234 жыл бұрын
How dare you, oliver isn't gay He oliversexual, he is atracted to everyone
@GreatBeanicus4 жыл бұрын
Or rather everyone is attracted to him
@sophiaisagoodunit86234 жыл бұрын
@@GreatBeanicus yesh everyone is tsundere towards him
@darth81566 ай бұрын
I love everything about this video.
@Laurmachi4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that gets in the way of Ike and Soren is the existence of Priam, but he could've found some alternatives to the issue. Anyways, I see no one talking about Ike and Aimee.
@wormonastring89344 жыл бұрын
I agree with most things, but 16:40 pls no Axel is like 25 and Roxas is 15 that's gross pls nonono
@swoomyswoom3455 Жыл бұрын
I always liked Jill and Lethe together
@MeesaiD4 жыл бұрын
A few lords: I'm a tiny bit gay. Almost every other lord: I'm straight. Ike: You guys are pathetic.
@davidduran4454 жыл бұрын
Wait what are you trying to say like that is gay or like that he doesn't care about anyone in a romantic way
@MeesaiD4 жыл бұрын
@@davidduran445 I'm trying to say that all the other lords are basically unable to be gay because they have only straight endings. Ike doesn't have a canon relationship ending so it could be anything. The joke is that Ike could be more open to anyone than the other lords.
@kisherprice564 жыл бұрын
You missed my biggest pairing, which is Caineghis and Giffca! They make a point to point out that Skrimir is his nephew and not his son. Not to mention Giffca's ending of "Since their youth, Giffca had been ever at Caineghis's side as his loyal shadow. He died proud of how he spent his life." (They some big ol' gay cats!)
@Chelaxim4 жыл бұрын
Ike's critical hit quote:Gay rights!
@FlorenceGamingOfficial4 жыл бұрын
The hell is this comment
@masorobo57734 жыл бұрын
NGL, i saw Jill and Lethe as a really good couple, honestly? Jill's interactions with her is so sweet, though that's just me!
@layachaz73183 жыл бұрын
Nice title. This video has convinced me to play PoR and RD
@sethzarandona2325 Жыл бұрын
I adore this video. So, so, so much. But... How could you NOT bring up the badass lesbian queens Tanith and Sigrun? They're iconic!!!
@Mamodxx Жыл бұрын
When I first was making the outline for this video, I had several other relationships I wanted to talk about and one of them was Tanith and Sigrun. I ended up cutting them and a few others due to wanting to keep the video more concise. There's A LOT more I could talk about with Tellius and LGBTQIA+
@sethzarandona2325 Жыл бұрын
@@Mamodxx Hahahaha, that’s fair! I was teasing, mind you. I was SO ecstatic to find this video! I gotta be careful what gaming channels I follow, cause so many of them turn out to be homophobic (like Mangs). Thank you for making this!!! Gave me a new bit of hope for the Fire Emblem fandom. 💜
@Mamodxx Жыл бұрын
@@sethzarandona2325 I started making videos covering these topics since very few FE creators wouldn't and would say blatantly offensive things. I've distanced myself from a lot of the FE community for that reason, but a lot of the newer voices who have entered the community are much kinder and more open!
@redjackal78234 жыл бұрын
14:38 I thought the same thing about Ike’s orientation that he is asexual. I am not the only one who thought that!
@downbeatdialga13414 жыл бұрын
I love the shots at Ike and Elincia, w/the Yoshi’s New Island music. Also, happy pride month!
@cloudy97810 күн бұрын
Priam's existence juat means Mpreg is canon in Fire emblem.
@icecreamorc2 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this video in 2022 to preach the good word that Kyza got added to Heroes and is basically confirmed non binary. Retroactively another point on the score card. Also, it's wild to think how progressive these games where for the times. Playing these in 2007 really helped me realize that it was okay to like whoever I like.
@zephyrin19984 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet but I already agree
@grapes48324 жыл бұрын
In my darkest times I rewatch this video. It always cheers me up.
@neopets666 Жыл бұрын
The way my closeted gay ass loved this game when I was a kid. I also always loved Ilyana bcuz I read her as having an Eating Disorder like I did at the time. She’s everything to me.
@vocaloidpartier Жыл бұрын
The only thing more cute then IkexSoren is the maker of this video (gives you a big smooch)
@FansyBLK4 жыл бұрын
I don't need any extra context I already believe it
@JasPugliese Жыл бұрын
Radiant Dawn was when I realized I was gay.
@ray-layalbright37614 жыл бұрын
"if Priam exists, this means that either Jill/Mist or Ike/Soren is not canon" me, to Priam: I pretend I do not see you *closes eyes*
@mysticknight14944 жыл бұрын
But the only real proof of Priam bring related Ike or Mist is that 1. He has blue hair 2. He owns the Ragnell And neither of these necessarily mean he's related to Mist or Ike Everyone and their mom in Fire Emblem have blue hair. That doesn't prove anything. And as for Ragnell, I have a couple of theories. If Ike sets off alone at the end of Radiant Dawn, he either trains an apprentice or adopts a kid and passed the Ragnell to them. This also supports the asexual theory. But if Ranulf or Soren go with him at the end, basically the same as above, but it supports the gay theory instead. That's also why Priam would have Ike's headband and cape. And the Ragnell isn't a preferred weapon in Awakening, anyone could use it. So Priam doesn't even have to be related to Ike to use it.
@theskeptic7774 жыл бұрын
Soren and ranulf will be at war to get ike until the creator or any developer confirms one or the other. That is the truth of the matter XD
@crispygyoza92684 жыл бұрын
...Caineghis and Giffca not mentioned even once
@charliebear2048 Жыл бұрын
Throwing my hat into the ring, i think Jill and Lethe have an interesting pairing, with their A Support literally being them awkwardly touching hands as a show of their bond and the respect they've grown for each other.
@sonicboom1263 жыл бұрын
This entire video and feel is the same exact hot take on why Link in ocarina of time was gay.
@YoshLovesYou3 жыл бұрын
Entertaining, but a looooot of wishful thinking involved. Heather is obviously openly gay. Soren is either asexual or has feelings for Ike. Everything else here is built on very weak evidence and ignoring stronger evidence to the contrary. But hey, fantasize away.
@YoshLovesYou3 жыл бұрын
Correction: Tibarn and Reyson is plausible too.
@dededeletethis99404 жыл бұрын
My theory on how priam can exist: he is the spawn of a different ike. Think about it! Heroes confirms that there is an infinite amount of worlds in the fire emblem universe. Some have big differences (like the one that berserk ike comes from), but then you turn around and summon the exact same chrom ten times over. This means that among infinite ikes, there's an infinite amount of ikes that are gay with soren, infinite ikes that are gay with ranulf, and infinite ikes that are straight, reproduce, and result in infinite priams, which then end up in infinite versions of ylisse. Tl;dr priam is the descendant of an ike from a different version of tellius that is straight.
@Tatsukoi.muffin4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense to me.
@mogfoil4 жыл бұрын
Did you know that the Persona games haven’t had a protag who was allowed to date girls AND guys since the year 2000?
@mogfoil4 жыл бұрын
Raise a glass for Tatsuya Suou, bi king. Atlus may have forgotten you but we never will.
@michaelolegario63994 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Kyle. I will shout it to the ends of the earth of the Ike and Soren/Ranulf ship!
@gc790064 жыл бұрын
i think that pairing Ike with Elincia completely ruins the whole point of chapter 2 of RD and the whole character development of Elincia who finally becomes able to rule her country Also I would like to point out that Sigrun's support conversation in RD tend to express respect for male characters and affection towards female characters and she appears conflicted because she knows that, given her role/or other factors (E.G. Her A support with Nailah/Elincia), some of those affections are destined to reamain dreams) Funnily enough i believe the only male characters she express that kind of interest is Oliver, i think so to gain his vote in the senate for Sanaki
@TheSapphireLeo Жыл бұрын
Will not be satisfied until we see Soren learning to shapeshift into maybe a smaller dragon, as they are at least half and/or by magic?
@savontorres21404 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm under the Asexual Ike camp, Can't change my mind that this Man, if Soren was presenting himself would not just be dumbfounded and be like " oh you want to swordfight?" (Proceed to get naked and throw soren a sword )
@0KaitoShion03 ай бұрын
Edward x Leonardo? 👀 I mean, their A-bond conversation is really endearing.
@5h3nn0ng4 жыл бұрын
Theres sone speculation about Priam being a descendant of Mist and Boyd. Remember that Anri fron Archanea never had any descendants, his brother Marcelus did. Regardless, they still say that Marth is a descendant of Anri, so the idea of Priam being Ike's descendant still holds water
@catelyntully94944 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping uploading man, I love your videos.
@CrashDAMFCourse Жыл бұрын
Ike is like Sonic and Soren is like Tails. Ike can function on his own like Sonic can but Soren always wants to be by his side and help him in any way he can. Plus Ike isn't the type of guy to be tied down by anyone just like Sonic is (no matter how many Sonic x Amy fan arts their are Sonic himself would never date anyone).