Ten 37's, Harry Needle 20's, Scrap Workinngs & Mixed Freight - 2019/2020

Ten different class 37 locomotives filmed over a variety of months, at a number of locations, including 37521 & 37667 approaching Newport Docks on the 19/03/20. Two Harry Needle Class 20's hauling scrap GWR coaches, alongside a mix of other scrap workings, stock movements, and test trains throughout the video.
Filmed at Severn Tunnel Junction, Caldicot and a location in Newport. Thanks for watching.

[@michaeltaylor1219]

The Mk 3 coaches really are a testament to their designers back in the 70’s ! Such a modern design, and seems such a sacrilege to be getting rid of them! 😕

[@thegooselord4978]

michael taylor exactly! Can’t old MK2s be replaced with refurbished mk3s ? So confusing

[@AquaFonic]

TheGooseLord HEALTH AND SAFTEY no plus they were not good for disabled people giving them access Mk 5 do !

[@pj6641]

Monkey Nutz that’s why LNER coaches which these are being moved to EMR because they conform to disabilities act unlike the current EMR/EMT

[@AquaFonic]

Paul Jones NOT for long they are being replaced end of 2020 with Hitachi trains class 810 ! See EMR website although now with Coronavirus kicking off it might be earlier than expected...

[@TheTomd79]

Do you not mean they might now be replaced later than expected?

[@DeanPark]

Its ironic that two locos from the 1960's, in their original liveries are towing coaches from the late 1970's off for scrap. Sad scenes, but well captured. Historic moments in the story of British Railways. Cheers. Dave

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you, Dave, for watching. 37s are my favorite old locos and still working on the mainline...

[@PreservationEnthusiast]

@@DJBTrains Why is the train doubled headed. The 37s would each be capable of pulling such a short rake of 8 coaches on their own.

[@mauriceadamson224]

Got to love the 37s ,great memories.

[@pauloconnor2980]

I LOVE the throaty roar of the BR Class 37's!!!!!

[@train4905]

Absolutely fantastic shots,well done sir😊

[@jamescampbell7780]

Splendid video. Looking forward to the next presentation, soon, I hope!

[@paulmarkhallam9058]

Love the 37s there the best brings back so many good memories from my childhood love to know this was filmed

[@TheMichaelWilcock2016Railways]

One of your best Derek. Being incarcerated for a few weeks; being over 75, I have all the time in the world to enjoy these longer compilations. Thanks for being there...Mike in the Vale

[@DJBTrains]

Thanks, Mike. Stay safe...

[@markw1685]

Bloody brilliant Video Loved every minute

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you very much, Marc...

[@LondonEmergency999]

Really liking the green on those 37s...!

[@Meddled]

London Emergency TV they are gorgeous . I lean towards large-logo BR blue with big yellow ends and silver roof, but that heritage green livery shows how long 37s have been working. It's not like they've had to gut them and spoon the inner workings of a 66 or an MTU prime mover to keep them working either. They got the tractors right the first time!

[@jimbilton1956]

Yes I agree, they look great in green with small yellow ends. By the way, that's a heck of a tight curve at the beginning of the video!

[@09weenic]

Fantastic video - great work 👍

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you for watching...

[@jamesburnside3023]

Love this video nicely done on a damp cool day I would think, excellent

[@DJBTrains]

Cheers, James...

[@KyleLaw19]

Excellent footage and a great variety of workings. Very enjoyable.

[@DJBTrains]

Cheers for watching, Kyle...

[@Sussyfinley451]

17:58 the horn sounded funny and the the wiper blade looks funny too going back and forth

[@Pmjs]

In the 90s I mind when XC had mk3 coaches&class 87s from Edinburgh down the WCML and West Coast had Mk2s&class 86s from Glasgow Ctl. I very much preferred travelling on mk3s.

[@London1064]

Great video 👍

[@EMuksteam]

Brilliant capture Derek of the LSL Class 37s on their movement to Newport Docks. Those diesels look fantastic. Hope you are keeping well.and stay safe. Kind regards C&A

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you C&A, great to still see the 37s on the mainline...

[@BorisLu]

Awesome video!

[@callumthornelow2936]

Brilliant shots, Those LSL 37's do look awesome as does the rest of their fleet, I guess with all the railtour cancellations you're prepared to film anything at the moment.

[@irelandbloke]

Superb videos ! :)

[@ianjones4116]

Dave class47 you took the words right out of my mouth. Testament to the power and Longevity of the 37s, and in there original green livery. Dont see many old Brushes/Sulzers about Lol. Only joking with you. First cab ride was a 47, Paddington to Shrewsbury, just annoying I was too young to remember. Pre Euston to Salop. Great vid also. 👍

[@dhdove]

Great video!

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you...

[@bryannewman5012]

Great video....good variety. .

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you...

[@136miles]

Thank you loved it

[@swearingkevo]

Excellent vid, very enjoyable

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you, Kev...

[@Colin21454]

Cracking captures here Derek, keep safe mate

[@DJBTrains]

Cheers Colin, One or two 37s mate. Keep Safe out there Colin...

[@TrainsBoatsPlanes]

Great video

[@davestrains]

super video!!! 👍😊 cheers,dave

[@Thomas1980]

Nice video, thanks for uploading. Greetings Thomas

[@peterdovey5182]

Cracking film Derek

[@russouk]

If you know where to look its traction heaven.....lots of loco fans missed out on these...nice mixture....good news is not all the scrapped stuff ends up as a dishwasher...lots get sold abroad to resume life and our heritage groups save hell of a lot...thank goodness too....even carriages bought for garden sheds or cafes...lol

[@tobytrainspotter]

Fantastic video Derek as usual. Some great captures over the months. Glad to see another video. Been a while. Hope you are well.

[@DJBTrains]

Than you Toby. I am okay now mate...

[@class37100]

I would like to say this is the best video I have seen in many years on You Tube, the sounds the variety and the filming are all spot on. That is one hot spot of a railway station to be at, well done again cheers.

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you very much for watching...

[@antman09ful1]

Very good mix.

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you, Mike...

[@MrBnsftrain]

1:12 With two BR green class 37s and red and cream mk1s, I would've guessed this was a railtour with new ex-Virgin stock 8:30 wow! doubleheaded steam at night! (with only two coaches) 10:50 what a neat catch! all BR blue (except for the one coach, which I don't recognize the livery of) 12:07 a gray class 67, all blue DVT, an inverted BR blue mk3, a DB class 90 and 67! What a weird train that's moving back and forth a lot! 16:52 six barrier coaches with one old EMU. The former TFL ones didn't need barrier coaches 21:35 wow! a pacer trio! The amount of loco-hauled passenger trains is quite amazing, even though the cars are empty!

[@soulbabe79]

The ex-virgin mk3s were being taken for scrap, the loco and coaches were provided by LSL for towing use. 10:50 was a Anglia mk2

[@Jeagles]

Train at 12:07 is OHLE testing

[@trainfan9876]

At 10:50 the first coach is an anglia mk2.

[@allan5919]

Some super locos captured in your video Derek. Great viewing. Cheers - Allan :-)

[@DJBTrains]

Cheers, Allan...

[@conceyullena]

Very nice video! 🚂👍🙋‍♂️

[@SimonTog]

Wonderful video Derek :) Thumbs up :)

[@DJBTrains]

Cheers, Simon for watching...

[@davidbailey533]

The 37.s are my fave ok some have been scrapped but there seems more of them about than the 47.s which to me shows which people prefer long live the 37,s

[@spompey]

Superb compilation....trust you are doing well and OK.....best regards....Mark

[@alcopley7684]

Well done, great camera work, good sounds.

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you...

[@chrisst8922]

Brilliantly filmed. But the sound quality impressed me even more.

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you for that...

[@londonsuburbs]

Nice train!!! 😁

[@southwalesrailproductions8748]

Nice one Derek! I seen you got to that location ok. See you soon Jordan

[@DJBTrains]

Cheers, Jordan nice to see the 37s in BR Green...

[@bellers13]

Great set of workings, so much stock gone now, and new inbound, hope we maintain some heritage traction for our hobby!

[@DJBTrains]

Thank you for watching. So much as moved on to scrap yard just down this way to Newport docks...

[@annescholey6546]

31128 the Beast of Die Hard 31s!

[@BRAZILMUCURANA]

Muy Interessante!! Ótimo vídeo,,

[@dancarter1822]

you've caught me and my mates on this video :D :D we were up at STJ for the steam and the 67s with the 90 :D

[@DJBTrains]

Hi, Dan...

[@dancarter1822]

@@DJBTrains hello

[@rsalt6015]

Not forgetting a brace of Network Rail track inspection trains.

[@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739]

For a moment I looked at the video title and thought those 37s were going to be scrapped

[@leroyclarke7992]

Quite the fan of those Deutsche Bahn liveried units.

[@Kertz_osterwald]

Leroy Clarke class 66

[@ahirschfeld1974]

Now I see why the Class 20’s are nicknamed “choppers”

[@DJBTrains]

Cheers, for watching, a great sound...

[@HardyBunster]

Looks like those mk3 coaches are going to a heritage railway.

[@pj6641]

mk3 coaches being sent for scrap is stupid why not let companies that do rail tours have them especially with guidelines about disability and toilet waste being deposited on the tracks

[@Meddled]

Paul Jones it's a criminal waste. They are comfier to ride in than the budget airline grade stuff being rolled out now.

[@matthewrandall1061]

Because they've had it, they're all full of rust. They've reached the end of their working lives.

[@davidthomas5612]

@@matthewrandall1061 Ui

[@nzr.explorer4660]

bring then to New Zealand we have about 100 ex mk2 cars

[@alantorr4761]

@@nzr.explorer4660 Tron Express!

[@bobbybecker6435]

At 1:55, beautiful noise.

[@DJBTrains]

Spot on mate...

[@pauloconnor2980]

@ 4:51, I notice that the EMU is being hauled without match wagons.

[@leonardobrown9941]

Those mk 3 coaches are still epic!!! Why get rid? Surely still worth selling on?

[@Pmjs]

Surely the mk3s can be used for rail tours. ScotRails HSTs have wheelchair access to Std class&accessible toilets.

[@steventhornton4716]

I'm sure some of them will be saved by the likes of the Yorkshire moors line and and others just like the 40s were in the nick of time at least let's hope so

[@buzzukfiftythree]

Seems crazy to be scrapping Mk3/Mk4 carriages when the network, particularly in the North of England, is so short of capacity (well in normal times). I hate seeing locos and other rolling stock going for scrap (well maybe the Pacers I wouldn't lose any sleep over)

[@vincitveritas3872]

Should be made into homes for the homeless.

[@bfapple]

Vincit Veritas Turning them into homes would be far more expensive than, well, building houses...

[@martinbayliss3868]

I have seen Mk3 coaches at Bristol Temple Meads that have been refurbished with automatic doors and containment toilets. There is no need to scrap these coaches it the class 43 livid that go with them!

[@justinobrien9164]

What a waste of 52 million pounds putting automatic doors on mk3 inner-city 125 coaches plus fitting new waste tanks for what to be scrapped and come back as recycled Kia's from Taiwan makes my piss boil no wonder rail fares are sky high as some poor bastards have to pay for it!!!🤬🤬🤬

[@justinobrien9164]

The class 43 power cars could be reused for freight it wouldnt be hard to put a number 2 nose end on a few of them! Or run them in 5 car sets on lines that have shortages of sprinters/dmu's they must have another 10 years in them after all the millions that was spent on them recently!!!🤬🤬🤬

[@Conan500]

I had no idea any 31’s were still out on the mainline!

[@DJBTrains]

Thanks, taking Mk 2 coaching stock to Cardiff Canton...still a nice sight on the mainline

[@adamsphotography3499]

There are currently 36 class 31s out there, most of them wont be mainline certified.

[@DJBTrains]

@@adamsphotography3499 This one is the only 31 mainline certified...

[@adamsphotography3499]

@@DJBTrains yes but I'm saying that there is 36 class 31s in existence in the Uk

[@DJBTrains]

@@soulman3590 1 only on the mainline...

[@TransportCambs]

Brilliant video, what camera/mic do you use?

[@jefffranklin4894]

315s, old TFL rail/LO stock from London Liverpool Street

[@marcconyard5024]

Just been watching NSWGR Alcos. Now for the real sound of diesel!

[@thomasm1964]

Why do all locomotive movements seemingly need two locomotives these days? That first train had almost as much motive power as rolling stock? I can understand for push-me-pull-you operation as with engineering trains but, otherwise, surely it is cheaper to run round at destination’s end? And the two locomotives on the first train were both at the same end anyway.

[@ufx808]

👍

[@breeze1472]

im sure tfw just got some of these carriages for the WAG train

[@DJBTrains]

Yes 619s for Cardiff for valley lines etc...

[@AliIslamic07]

21:36 Not the Pacers 🥺

[@docd340]

Always like the roar from a Deltic under full load, any way can you tell me why the driver or engineer have forced what seems to be a cardboard box in the middle under sheilds @20:58. On a car/truck you could do this if very cold outside, therefore restricting airflow to & through radiator so more hot water can be kept for the heater matrix, in return heating the cab. As I say I woukd like to know what purpose this box is doing there,,, as in physically mashed in..... #peaceout ✌️

[@johnbradshaw7525]

A number of Class 57 Locos are fitted with Deliner couplings so they can rescue failed Pendolinos and Super Voyagers on the West Coast Mainline. The Deliner coupling is housed in the recess in the front of the loco and they have a cover over them when they are not in use.

[@pauloconnor2980]

I'm assuming that the Mk1 coaches in Blood & Custard livery are being used as match wagons.

[@johnbradshaw7525]

The Mk1 blood & custard coaches are being used a barrier vehicles.

[@EssexGayBoi]

Absolute corker of a video, loved it. Though what i wish to know is, what was the 2 67's with the DVT, Mk 3 & 90 all about, back n forth....?

[@gavin18787]

Was going to ask the same!

[@johnbradshaw7525]

I think it's some sort of test train that they use to check that the route is suitable for the Class 90 to run over it. I've seen another video when that test train with the 2 x class 67's, 1 x class 82 DVT & Class 90 was running through Newport station.

[@welshfurrygaming69]

25:40 where is the emr 156 going?

[@steventhornton4716]

Wrap round yellow ends with no center panel with the dual lights and the headlights lower down looks really odd on a 37

[@nbc_uk]

I guess that that was a first class Mk3 that the HST boys sold? Were they just using it as weight for for a loco test run, or was there some other reason for it trundling up and down that section?

[@DJBTrains]

Witch clips mate...

[@nbc_uk]

@@DJBTrains - the train appears several times, but is the one seen at 12:00.

[@Meddled]

Norfolk Broadcasting probably there for braking effort. Maybe the HST guys make a bit of money leasing it out for this sort of stuff? I'm guessing the blue DVT is the thing tested here?

[@joenichols725]

Give them to heritage society?

[@4vepvik781]

I noticed class 319 Ex Thameslink units being hauled to.For the chop sadly I guess?.

[@Geeves8612]

319s are having diesel engines. None for scrap... Yet.

[@4vepvik781]

@@Geeves8612 Oh good..Thanks for info!👍🏽

[@pauloconnor2980]

Two class 37's seems a bit overkill for that short rake if wagons, including match wagons.

[@martinstallard2742]

@11:41 is that a class 67 I couldn't make out the number

[@jameskeogh6545]

This is probably a daft question. Does anyone know why the 37 engines sound like the rev on and off under acceleration? I can't find anything online.

[@Mr067marc]

James Keogh it’s the driver giving it some for the fans

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

James Keogh Maybe to control wheel slip, too much power = burnt rails.

[@JohnHughes2002]

I've heard that it's so as not to burn out the electrics.

[@henryjames4673]

What’s the deal with having the spacer coaches between the 57s and the mk3s?

[@johnbradshaw7525]

The barrier coaches are used when the locos & coaching stock have different type of couplings.

[@glenshielrailway5696]

I swear in a thousand years a UFO will land on Earth, at which point would probably be a smoldering pile of ash, and find a Class 37 ticking over right next to a Nokia 3310 with 85% battery. The only two things even the apocalypse can't kill!

[@NJPurling]

The Nokia will be in the jacket pocket of a drivers coat. The only living thing found will be a colony of cockroaches in one of the cabs. The worst damage to the '37 will be lightly scorched paint from whatever nuke dropped nearby. It would take a direct hit to kill a Class 37.

[@simonvancoevorden295]

What about Keith Richards & Ozzy Osborne ?

[@michaeladamson6732]

Why did the class 57 take the empty class 315?

[@DJBTrains]

The 315s are on the way to Newport docks for scraping...

[@jayharper1894]

319104? 17:10

[@jwalster9412]

can anyone explain why the coachs are being scrapped?

[@matthewrandall1061]

They're knackered

[@jayharper1894]

21:10 any info on that 319?

[@tenny_tenten]

Its a 769 for TfW, now in service

[@vipersaxo]

Why does the first train have two older carriages, do they serve a particular purpose?

[@ljts7587]

It’s mixed freight so the two Mk1s I think are going to another yard for pick up for a heritage line or something like that maybe..?.

[@johnbradshaw7525]

The 2 red & cream coaches are used as barrier vehicles because the Mk3 coaches & the Class 37's are not fitted with the same couplings.

[@dave1001]

I still think those class 4 carriages are being scrapped too soom

[@stephen4912]

I agree with u there only 30 year old still in good nick shame seeing them going for scrap

[@dave1001]

@@stephen4912 yeah and they keep older stock for the northern franchise

[@nigelmitchell351]

It's a bloody outrage. EE3's look nice though.

[@buzzukfiftythree]

Yes, totally agree with you.

[@sosig1341]

What about the grand central services from Crewe to Blackpool north

[@vincitveritas3872]

What station are second set of clips from?with signal. NT1030

[@davecook3840]

Vincit Veritas Severn Tunnel Junction

[@vincitveritas3872]

@@davecook3840 thanks. Will have to go once restrictions go. Where were the test trains etc going when they changed direction there?

[@davecook3840]

Vincit Veritas it’s the UTU Train (Ultrasonic Testing Unit) that looks for Side Guage Cracking and all sorts of good stuff in the Rail. From the looks of it it’s done the Up Tunnel line then probably turned back at Pilning and done the Down Tunnel line. Can’t really tell, not sure if there was a Possession at the time or not, it may not have been working and was only getting itself into position for some working at a later date.

[@jontownsend8090]

Isn't it a shame that these mk3 coaches weren't offered to the heritage sector, they would make good stock for railtours, much safer than mk1 stock, if plug doors were retrofitted to them. I am sure NR would rather see them used for railtours than the mk1s.

[@kimjongbingbongtingtong4430]

We used them for railtours a few years ago, but there are a couple of issues which can reduce their flexibility, including a specific third-rail conflict with one version of BT10 bogies. Add to that the aesthetic authenticity issue that makes them less appealing to some tour operators and they will (sadly) disappear. On top of that, many have started to reach the end of safe service lives (without really expensive overhauls) and that's the final nail in the coffin. Porterbrook were selling Mk III's to New Zealand railways in the late noughties, and plenty of other countries started to look at recycling them, but in most cases they aren't suitable because the interiors are absolutely knackered.

[@neilmartin1531]

Sure those old carriages could be converted into temporary/low cost housing for somebody.

[@rsalt6015]

@Jack Torrance In places, yes.

[@TheHollowGHOST]

@Jack Torrance Absolutely.

[@percyc123]

An excellent idea , good on you !

[@ianjones4116]

I wish DB Skanker would stop putting Red paint on stuff that should/would look better in Large logo BR Blue. We can but dream !!!

[@TheEnglishTrainSpotter2021]

ian jones never seen a class 67 in BR large logo and I think it wouldn’t look very good

[@jayswarrow1196]

Present railway owners would've put swastika on a class 55...

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

Same with HST's. Lines crying out for extra capacity but nobody with the sense to use short-formed HST sets

[@1chish]

They can't use slam door Mk III stock. But it beats me why they can't create a Class 43s + Mk IV set ...

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@1chish Exactly....

[@h2ik373]

Scotrail are using HST sets, the MK 3 coaches have been converted to push button doors. If they can do it why not other franchise operators.

[@1chish]

@@h2ik373 You miss my point. I was answering why slam door Mk IIIs could not be used and then pointed out there are Mk IVs abundantly available. Now as to your point about the modified Mk IIIs (GWR Castle sets, X Country and Scotrail Inter7city sets) this is costing £ Mns and the project is running a year late. Why? Because a) the corrosion is terrible and b) every carriage was basically hand built and every one is different. Its why Wabtec chose the crappy sliding door system rather than the better plug door system as it was the only one that would fit. (IEP sets use the same dumb system and why there are seats with no windows ... #FacePalm...) Makes me wonder how on earth Chiltern managed to do such a brilliant job with plug doors on their Mk IIIs. Only the UK rail industry would spend £ Mns adapting 40+ year old stock when 30 year old ready built stock is being scrapped. Its utter madness!

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@h2ik373 Exactly

[@russouk]

weird seeing underground line trains in wales eh lol....sad to see em off to die

[@DJBTrains]

Time is up for them now in China...

[@ianjones4116]

Even more weirder, overhead lines in Wales. Thought it be too wet for 25kv.lol 😂 P.S I'm from Trewern. !

[@davehenderson4137]

Take it you mean the Class 315s ? Not underground trains ..... they worked out of Liverpool street to points east of London...

[@SteveFTW5]

They should make the 313s into GWR livery and put them on the GWML

[@djburland]

Such a shame scrapping these quality coaches

[@DJBTrains]

Yes, not very nice to see them go, David...

[@rsalt6015]

@@DJBTrains Especially as they have life in them. A waste

[@AquaFonic]

David Burland “quality “ ??? NO DISABLED ACCESS !!! That’s NOT QUALITY!

[@stevecooksley]

The class 57 looks a bit like Hitler.

[@chrisst8922]

25:50

[@Meddled]

Steve Cooksley huh! I see it!

[@ricksclick]

I can't help but noticing how many short trains and single engines running on the railroads in your country. What a waste of fuel!

[@AquaFonic]

ricksclick actually shorter trains are fuel efficient!! Especially bio trains and FASTER !!!

[@doveronefoxtrot4417]

Those Mk3's are Greater Anglian. It's sinful they should be scrapped, they have years left in them.

[@Meddled]

dover one foxtrot if mk1s can knock snout heritage lines and mk2s can be used by paying passengers on the mainline then something bad has happened in keeping the mk3s maintained. I guess there is just enough slop in each coach to make fitting standard parts, like power doors, a challenge. I wonder if Wabtec found some hidden horrors when they upgraded the Scotrail mk3s as well. Maybe opening up sections revealed heavy corrosion?

[@charlieh4485]

Why not do what the Indians are doing and convert these old coaches to temporary Hospitals