Ten British Locomotive Oddities

[@kenfisher6290]

Fascinating video, thank you Jon. I particularly appreciated the absence of inappropriate music or false locomotive sounds, and your commentary was knowledgeable and friendly - well done.

[@SirKenchalot]

Thanks for the video, very well researched. I hope you produce more and get a lot more views.

[@stashyjon]

thanks mate, I'm working on a follow up at the moment,

[@alanrixson3788]

Andy Kench q

[@brianfoster7794]

Thank You for your video, found it very interesting some of the locomotives I hadn’t heard of, it was only today that it was recommended by the tube

[@anthonynunn8590]

Forget the negative comments I enjoyed it immensely. Can't wait for the next one!

[@BeeSting862]

Really enjoyed this, it held my attention from beginning to end. Thank you. Would certainly be interested to see any future top tens you may post.

[@amtrakjohn]

Thank you Jon. Enjoyed it thoroughly, as a retired Yank rail worker. I guess my fav unit is #4, the Gas Turbine GT3. USA also experimented with gas turbines; Union Pacific had a big, loud one. Your example even appears to have a "face." So I guess Rev. Awdry would certainly approve! Thx again, and hope to see Installment Two.

[@T16MGJ]

Enjoyed that Jon. I had expected to see "Big Bertha" herself #58100 within your selected ten. When after nine it did not appear I was then puzzled by its exclusion. You explained about that at the end. Big Bertha was a special locomotive for me. Eleven and twelve year old rail enthusiast me would use my half crown pocket money to purchase a cheap day "Football Return" ticket between Gloucester and Birmingham in the early 1950s. That involved Big Bertha assisting my train up the Lickey Incline. Leaning out of the window looking under the footbridge the rail track appeared to go skyward out of sight. An illusion still vivid in my minds eye. I and my younger brother would make our way to the Guard's Van and so see Big Bertha in action. That until "Jobs Worth" Guard chased us out ... Half-a-Crown. Two and six. Two shillings and six pence .. 2/6d. 12.5 pence decimal .. . Such value for a round return trip. Youngsters today don't know theyze born as the saying goes.. 👀... 😃 Second thoughts. Twelve year olds and younger travelling alone on the Railways. No big deal back then, Move on a decade or three and I would never allow my two sons to travel alone at that age. Such is progress. They are both keen Rail Enthusiasts and treated their old Dad to a nice day out at GWR Toddington a while back. It was a Diesel Event day. All the steam locomotives cold but very photogenic. Lots of free rides on the one ticket all day including ancient Diesel Buses and Coaches along the nearby Cotswold Hills. A good day had by all and nice to meet so many others with the same interests. Recommended. I've rang that bell and look forward to some Big Bertha content ..😃

[@SBCBears]

I'm American and have no problem understanding and following this very informative and interesting narrative. Please do more if you want. Much appreciated. 19:55 Looks tired.

[@Marc_von_Hoffrichter]

Well done mate. Very informative on a vague subject. Enjoyed it very much. Looking forward to more later.

[@6535rvhtube]

Well done. I enjoyed this very much. Thank you

[@Castlebridge-00]

Loved it. Very interesting. Going to search now for number 2, Barry.Devon,

[@theliqful]

Terrific Vid John....keep up the excellent work,as they say..MORE,MORE,MORE..Soon Forward...steve

[@dathpo]

Well done. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you.

[@Uftonwood2]

Don't be nervous, you're a mine of information, so relax and speak a bit slower,- and don't forget the cover for the mike. Thanks for an absorbing video.

[@nigelhorsley5650]

Thoroughly enjoyable, thanks. Treasured photos in safe hands for posterity.

[@brendanwilliams7291]

Great stuff, some of these locomotives would leave me speechless as to why and how they were built.

[@pencils1951]

Excellent video with a wealth of information many would not be aware of. Don't underestimate your ability, it's more than most can do.

[@herbrand47]

Well researched, holds your attention through out.

[@henrybn14ar]

Fireless locomotives were eventually quite successful, using "boilers" charged from a fixed supply eg in factories. Huntley and Palmer had a couple, and so did some breweries in Germany where steam was readily available. They were appreciated as being pollution-free. The Swiss company DLM has rebuilt a few for continued service in Germany.

[@Itsjustme-Justme]

I never heard of the GWR 4600. It is a beautiful machine.

[@stashyjon]

yeah she is a bit of a looker, better proportioned than the County tanks

[@ChrisKitVeedubber]

Well done, for your first video of this kind. You did really well.

[@billcobbett9259]

Well done- a good few photos I hadn't seen before, especially of the Decapod and the Leader. Did you know that O.V. Bulleid moved to Ireland, and built a turf-burning version of the Leader? Well, tried to build, anyway!

[@BJHolloway1]

Thanks for the very interesting video - meticulously researched. Lets have some more please

[@zandraneeld4323]

Enjoyed your video. Keep it up.

[@johnmehaffey9953]

Enjoyed all of the video the voice delivery certainly did not put me off but added to the style of your presentation, looking forward to your next release

[@Cheeseatingjunglista]

Loved it, well done mate

[@Rog5446]

Nice one Jon, look forward to the next. (Sorry, but can I just suggest that when you record your narrative, you place the microphone at least another 6 inches away from your lips, as this would negate breath noise)

[@stashyjon]

yeah, it is something I learned, and the fact I had a heavy cold when I did the audio didn't help either

[@NJPurling]

I had heard of the Great Eastern 'Decapod'. It is something you expect to see in a marshalling yard or a custom build for a industrial railway in another country. Many years ago I bought a postcard of the GWR 4600, because I wondered 'what the hell is that?' Incredibly Bulleid built a version of the Leader class for the Irish railways that burnt peat instead of coal. The Leader looks like a Tube train car on nasty steroids.

[@marvinwatkins8889]

Well researched in a honest, fact filled attempt. The extemporaneous approach and non pompous, non-RP speech is refreshingly natural. But despite that, a text might have been better. Still, most fascinating with facts and history I for one did not know. You sir, do know your stuff.

[@class_31clag]

What about the "standard 8", On June 12th 92167, already running with a boiler defect dropped its rods working back from Leeds. Repairs were denied as were those to 92160 several days later, both were quickly condemned." Giving us a standard 2-8-2

[@beachcomberbob3496]

I'm surprised that the Lickey 'Big Bertha' didn't make the 'A' list. Now there was a true 'one-off'.

[@martinhall60]

What an amazing interesting and informative video. Well done Sir, very professional and great photos of the locomotives. First class. 🙂👍

[@NorbertRoll]

Very interesting and informative. Excellent.

[@Spodar-qb6pz]

thanks for the video! really enjoyed the information

[@peterb1543]

It's amazing how a lot of the mistakes were not picked up at the design stage

[@stashyjon]

These were they days before computer simulation or any modern tech, so I guess the best method was to test as you went along

[@bennickss]

When a doped up London underground 1938 stock and merchant navy class love each other very much you get the leader class!

[@ColinBenbow]

enjoyed the video very much, nice not to have hideous music in back ground that many youtube producers feel is mandatory Thank you Jon

[@tylerdurden726]

Thanks for this great work ! But if you decide to do another one, please do iit sober.

[@alanclarke4646]

@R F Jim Bowen on Bullseye? It was quite often 2 people from an inner city tower block, winning a speedboat!

[@R.C.A.F.V.R.]

Great video so darn glad no music being of an age hearing issues it was great to hear clear announciation also slow down a bit as your accent is broad but enjoyable but not too much or you'll lose your enthusiastic speech If you like an idea seeing #1 and the electric odditys how about forms of motive power oil coal electric atmospheric didcot has part of it dug up next to its 7foot¼ railroad But yes well done

[@johngray8606]

I noticed some viewers gave you thumbs down. I really don't understand why, just shows you can't please all the people all the time. Keep up the good work.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@nigelgresley87546]

With looking at the GT3, I can't unsee the headboards...they look like eyes!!😂

[@QJ89]

Somewhere, a rude GT named Cromwell is giving you the stink-eye. On a more serious note; Dovetail's Train Simulator made a pretty good virtual recreation of GT3, thanks to Victory Works. It ain't easy, but it's worth it.

[@bingola45]

@@QJ89 Is the sound correct?

[@QJ89]

@@bingola45 I imagine it is. Victory must have done their research and watched what few videos there are of GT3 in action.

[@senojbdet]

Looking forwards to your next video!!!!

[@stephenphillip5656]

I really enjoyed your video- well done, ignore the 'nay-sayers' out there. I was a little surprised that LNER 10000 'Hush-Hush' wasn't in there but there was lots of stuff that I didn't know and I look forward to any other videos you do. Thank you.

[@joshjones3408]

Now when i go to the parts store i ask for a gizmo now do i get the one that can be around water after 12 or no??😝😝😝great video 👍👍👍

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

The NER EE1 wasn't tested under power in Newcastle but on the Shildon to Erimus Yard line. The quayside branch in Newcastle was electrified with overhead power supply, but was only 3/4 mile long. The rest of the Newcastle area used 3rd rail electric supply.

[@Armadilling]

Very interesting Oddities

[@aon10003]

Really nice video. Thanks.

[@xavierlavaud1276]

Particulièrement intéressant. Je connaissais un peu toutes ces locomotives mais je connaissais parfois très mal leur histoire, notamment la GT3, les défauts de Leader, le secret entourant la locomotive de Paget, etc. Des regrets pour la 2C2 qui était au mauvais endroit au mauvais moment. On peut en dire autant des locomotives des FS construites pour la Sardaigne vers 1990 et qui n'ont pratiquement jamais roulé.

[@catlover4971]

Ignore the critics Jon, you have done a splendid job and you are to be congratulate on your first video. It would be in retesting to see what sort of videos the idiots on here could produce

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

The NER was the progenitor of the railway preservation movement in the UK. They had their own museum in York, close to where the NRM is today. Why it didn't end up on display is a mystery to me.

[@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044]

It's ironic as few of their designs survived only one went to Barry scrapyard

[@raptorproductions1639]

*I N H A L E*

[@ryanclarke2161]

Good vid, veryhard to wat h with head phones.....bomboom.....boom...boom

[@linnylinehan1841]

A very interesting video, although Fury was built by the North British Locomotive Company, not the North British Railway Company, which had ceased to exist by the time Fury was built.

[@chloealexalandry260]

Your 36001 Bulleid Leader info is not complete. The basic testing was done and proved many things that did work. The designer was hired, before the Leader project was finished, to build a new dual fuel [ oil or turf] locomotive aptly named the Turf Burner in Ireland. It proved that the basic leader design worked and in time, the area was electrified.

[@chriswood-nostalgic8900]

Hurricane from Thomas & Friends, is surprisingly based of the A55 engine.

[@RaisedLetter]

#13 certainly summed up itself

[@algrayson8965]

Ha! The coaches were loaded with 🐖 iron to represent the passengers! (decapod acceleration trials).

[@SidneyPratt]

Greathistory,more please. Thanks.

[@michaelnaisbitt1639]

Well researched I enjoyed video overall. Did you make the models??

[@TWA1945]

Great video!

[@Utubearchy]

Jon, I'd like to second the comments by Dennis Roy Hall. Well researched, making the topic the point of focus, as opposed to a presentation that's more wrappings than content. Imagine that. A KZbin 'Top Ten List' with a lite, informal, adult commentary. Actual adult commentary. What a concept. It might start a trend.

[@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819]

Apart from 1 small yard there was no ocerhead wiring in Newcastle meaning that the EE1 wouldn't have done much running there. Most of its runs under its own power were done between Shildon and Newport Yard.

[@stashyjon]

Thanks for the info, when I get around to doing a remake I'll put that corrected info in :)

[@Ricimer671]

Fascinating stuff, do more, sound a bit iffy.

[@adamdahabra4653]

I wish all of them are back

[@dennisroyhall121]

Very good, indeed excellent holding my attention all the way from start to finish. You have a good voice and a good style, balanced and fair in appraisals given of subjects with not unwelcome dry but humourous additional observations where appropriate. Your script delivery is fast but not overfast and utterly but utterly devoid of cliches and platitudinous yuck that has cluttered up so much of railway recordings. Perhaps best of all is your endeavour to fill your commentaries to the full leaving me with the impression that you have overlooked little and left nothing unsaid that was relevent. Cold or no cold, scripted or unscripted, I could not disagree more with some of the comments given below which I find ungracious and undeserved. As to future subject matter, personally I would look forward to hearing your research observations on the two gas turbine experiments and also perhaps the Southern electric locomotives and what about a study of the differences of the hundred or so railway companies that were finally grouped together into four companies in 1923. I wish you well and every success in all your future projects, especially where railways and their locomotives are concerned.

[@peterforden5917]

All of the above, ossibly a vid of the usually overlooked irish loco's?

[@peterforden5917]

oops possibly:/

[@zvezdaster]

Dennis Roy Hall i agree with you on most points if not all how ever, and not to put the uploader down, a few of the critiques were justified. The sound was of cheap quality which was quite detrimental to this video. But for what i guess was a first attempt, it was indeed making me to want to see more of his video's in the future

[@chriscaerau]

Good, very good, enjoyed...

[@gloshagloot]

I'm a yank, and despite Jon's accent I had no problem with the audio. Thoroughly entertaining and educational show, eh wot?

[@Rosie6857]

(gloshagloot) I should say so, old chap. :-) His speech was typical of an older Londoner. There are some far more impenetrable British accents, believe me. The information was bursting to come out, spontaneous and unsanitised. As an "older Londoner" myself I found this very refreshing. More!

[@jimmyviaductophilelawley5587]

Great video mate quality!

[@discontinuedchannel6145]

5:17 is Hurricane from journey beyond sodor

[@peterb1543]

Great info.well done.

[@TheDroppy68]

Good initial try, but I agree with previous comments that using a script or talking points would certainly help you to prevent the mistakes you have had to correct with popup text. Just to illustrate, at 17:22 you mention "Churchill". If you are referring to the GWR chief engineer, I believe you meant to say "Churchward"? Anyway, a thumbs up from me, especially if this is your very first attempt at a KZbin video.

[@cogidubnus1953]

#9 when was this scrapped please, as if it was 1930, then British Rail wasn't about...by 18 years!

[@freakedout2008]

He ment 1950

[@QJ89]

Experimental engines like this have always fascinated me, but electric ones have always intrigued me more. Many of them were too far ahead of their time and were limited by their wires to show their full potential. The UK and Australia both have interesting histories in this regard. It's a crying shame that No. 13 (aka Raven's Folly) never survived, nor his fictional Sudrian counterpart. (Look in to Loey Machan and the Extended Railway Series if you don't know what I'm talking about.)

[@davidhart4748]

Nice change looking to the next video

[@The_Yokshireman_In_The_Hat]

Thoroughly enjoyed your video thank you. A couple of locos in there I had never heard of before. However you missed LNER 10000 "Hush Hush" ;-) Thanks again for an enjoyable 30 minutes.

[@stashyjon]

Hush Hush will be the subject of an upcoming vid :)

[@The_Yokshireman_In_The_Hat]

Jon Wisbey I will look forward to seeing that.

[@davefrancis4270]

Interesting, do crack on with a follow up

[@nigelgresley87546]

(19:51) ONCE YOU SEE IT YOU CANT UNSEE IT!

[@raymondj8768]

hey thanks cool video buddy i liked it !

[@gabrielstrainsproductions6541]

Hey Jon Wiseby, FYI The Ger Holden's Decapod is actually Hurricane from Journey Beyond Sodor and he is Actually a Ger Holden's Decapod

[@arch9enius]

Well there was some stuff in here I didn't know. How about a video of Stormtroopers being cut up for scrap?

[@philaypeephilippotter6532]

I'm not sure that *Churchward's* 4600 class trial (actually *Holcroft's* to *Churchward's* specification using mostly standard *Swindon* parts - it wasn't really a prototype) belongs here. It wasn't really an oddity, just a simple extension of his vision that proved slightly less capable than his _small prairies._ Other than that I think it's an interesting excursion into the subject. One of the many more than 10 you _might_ have included is *LNER* 10000, the _hush hush_ locomotive.

[@AlasdairMacCaluim]

Awesome!

[@stashyjon]

+Alasdair MacCaluim thanks mate, not bad for my first attempt

[@roguico]

I rarely have problems with uncommon accents but unfortunately I can understand yours. Phonetics trainning would help you a lot.

[@stashyjon]

Each to their own, Iam proud of my regional accent

[@leonhawes6481]

Very interesting - I learned a lot

[@batman51]

Oliver Bullied, not William!

[@stashyjon]

of course your right, my error.

[@stashyjon]

yup, my error, made corrective notr

[@batman51]

No problem! Really interesting video.

[@JamesSmith-lz1xu]

very good! carry on with more

[@Randolph1233]

At 9.30 the steam engine was made in NB loco works Springburn, Glasgow. My father was a welder and worked there for 6 years there in the 1950’s. He liked welding jobs and often after the evening meal explained to our big family the technicalities of the engine and the welding job he had to do . Many locomotives in far flung countries were held together by his welding. Thank you Lord for the endeavour of so many.

[@stashyjon]

interesting stuff, its special when you have family connection to history

[@goingnowherefast1834]

5:19 this is the hottest place in town!We'll warm you up, when your feeling down!etc

[@SPG69]

Will make a smile out of every frown

[@the4tierbridge]

Oh shut it. It’s more than that.

[@MarkInLA]

Video greatly appreciated. But next time hold the mic further away from your mouth...Your inhaling noises are a bit of a put off.

[@bill091086]

Mark Harris : dammit! I hadn’t even noticed his inhaling until I read your comment! Now it’s driving me nuts!!!

[@TheMishy2789]

5:22 its hurricane from the journey beyond sodor.

[@stashyjon]

so it is, never knew there was a Thomas character based on the decapod

[@Polak-dd7ds]

Jon Wisbey Um, Murdoch, the 9f...

[@barrydelisle8655]

All trains should have faces to add character

[@tffan-gm9nl]

@@Polak-dd7dsMurdoch is a BR standard class 9F 2-10-0 steam locomotive.

[@gabrielstrainsproductions6541]

@@Polak-dd7ds FYI THE STANDARD 9F'S WHEEL BASE IS A 2-10-0 BUT THE DRIVING WHEELS OF HURRICANE IS KIND OF LIKE MURDOCH

[@kevinhoffman8214]

really enjoyed it

[@paulsanderson9586]

Great!! An unuasaul and different tack Thank you!! But agree with Uftonwood. I am not a GWR expert and cannot hear some details of #10, and I hear "1930" when talking about #9 and BR?

[@awesome-xk8vj]

Can you make more locomotive videos like this please. Please respond when you get this please.

[@stashyjon]

I intend to, but at the moment time and technology is holding me back.

[@984francis]

William Bullied and Oliver Stanier:)

[@groupcaptainbonzo]

Not bad for a first attempt. Better than mine was 🙂. I’d not even heard of the “Leader”

[@bingola45]

You weren't meant to. The nationalised BR and the government covered it up.

[@Rob_Star]

we would love you to do a other top 10 British loco's or DMU / EMU etc, please

[@JamesSmith-lz1xu]

not many people are fanatics about diesels..steam steam steam..

[@michaelgoodliffe4887]

James Smith What about the anoraks?

[@TWA1945]

Decapod no 20 is hurricane from Thomas and Friends!

[@fuse2uk]

G.J Churchward was the GWR CME responsible for 111.... not Churchill ....

[@MrKenichi22]

thanks for the video

[@richardjellis9186]

What a shame,, after an OBVIOUS attempt at preservation prior to the B.R. days, it eventually met it's maker.!😭!. I'd have put the bloke who gave the order to tow it off to the scrappy, the torch.!🤬!.