Ten Hag's Man Utd Are Simply Not Progressing, 1 Win in 7 | Mazraoui Decision Defended

[@richyclubsport5155]

Big positive from last night was Ugarte. He'll definitely help our midfield and defenders now he's up to speed and match fitness.

[@briankenome]

I agree. Hope he stays fit

[@rupertwilmot4792]

Yeah for the first time in 10 years the next manager will be left with a half decent squad.

[@cameron.vanheerden]

I know now is not the time to say Ten Hag out and im going to contradict myself right now but what has Ten Hag given us as United fans to say confidently that things are going to change? If you say his given us a FA cup and a Carabao cup okay fair enough but that still isnt good enough. There is no style of play, and he hasnt given us confidence to say this is how we going to play and there is no consistancy with results its so chaotic. I remember in Ten Hags first season as United Manager where i felt this is what we going to play like and it was against Tottenham and we never played like that ever since and i felt like the first half against Palace that this is how i want us to play and we looked like a team where we can dominate games but we havent gotten that since. If you look at Aston Villas team and our team, I genuinely believe our team is better than theirs but Emery is getting the best out of his team and Ten Hag isnt and how many chances are we as United fans going to give him. I defended Ten Hag to my friends who support other teams and every week I watch United being optimistic and expecting change every week and i end up being disappointed and when are we as united fans going to ask the question is Ten Hag is going to get the best out of this group of players. Im not saying he isnt good enough im saying and asking if he will get the best out of this group of players and if he cant then Ineos has to move on.

[@cameron.vanheerden]

I just had to rant for abit this is my opinion and i just hope people understand where im coming from

[@hughmcneillie1032]

You have to wonder what Casemiro is thinking when he isn't starting when it was clear he should have been paired with Ugarte from the start with Eriksen or Zirkzee in the more advance midfield position and Hojlund up top. Ten Hag is not helping himself.

[@rubenfrankish]

Then he brings on Anthony over Amad cos... why... favoritism! Sick of this manager and his process waffle!

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@rubenfrankish if amad looked up instead of running into players, didn't slow down play giving defenders time to regroup and actually passed the ball in front of runners on United attacking breaks, he wouldn't have lost his starting position

[@proplayaa1]

He changes his tactics: "self preservation, " "trying to save his job," etc. He doesn't change his tactics: "he's too rigid," "he's not tactically flexible, " "he needs to rotate more," etc. We have got to be the most insufferable fan base out there. 😂

[@richyclubsport5155]

@@proplayaa1 and KZbinrs spouting garbage and earning fortune's from it

[@proplayaa1]

@@richyclubsport5155 exactly.

[@ciaranoreilly5394]

One win in seven, yeah definitely insufferable. We can't hold leads at all. We played poorly in general and got dominated

[@kylelilley2125]

I agree man, it’s like the whole trajectory of the club lies in the hands of the next game every single game. Not a lot of patience amongst the so called ‘fans’

[@briankenome]

Absolutely spot on! You can even hear sam struggling to stay his course! He seems to be arguing both sides

[@zurc_bot]

The only thing I learned from this whole drama is that Jose misses us.

[@matthewfarrell6147]

Been saying this till im blue in the face and gonna continue to say it ten hag will be gone by Christmas garuntee it

[@matthewbaker2573]

then United will have to start all over again. when are people going to learn that changing managers has been the BIGGEST reason for their slump

[@tersooachiatar5499]

Are you seeing what ETH is doing to the players? Playing Mazraoui in the number 10 ahead of all the Midfielders we have means they are not good enough, how will the players feel? There will be a massive negative reaction. And that's not intelligence that's lame!!. What is he doing with Amad? This man can't manage players. If Amad talks it will be another Sancho. ETH has to leave INEOS know that and the core fans know this fact.

[@keyjones1678]

Amad again in every comment section. I don't get it. What has he done to merit the hype? He had a good 45 minutes against Southampton and was poor against Palace, Twente, and Porto.

[@proplayaa1]

​@@keyjones1678I DONT GET IT 😂

[@judeyyx2]

Both of these idiots in the replies are hilarious. Amad has been at the very least GOOD in every game he’s played, most of which have just been cameos here and there. He was the bleeding player of the month for August and got dropped right after that. On top of that, it’s not like people are calling for him to play over Bruno. It’s Antony. Antony. And a RB. Give your damn heads a wobble.

[@proplayaa1]

@@judeyyx2 oh what a fool. "at the very least good?" Amad has been decent at best ALL season. You're crying about him not starting over Antony as if Antony himself has been getting plenty of game time. What an idiot. And a rb that has played that position before under the manager, so once again, foolish.

[@hughmcneillie1032]

Absolutely agree. If anyone should have been rested last night it should have been Eriksen with Casemiro, Ugarte and Zirkzee in midfield with Hojlund up top. Eriksen playing too much football just now.

[@daylechitray7632]

If we're less emotional about this, the games against Twente and spurs were the only two bad games.

[@ciaranoreilly5394]

Liverpool was bad.

[@dougposkitt1690]

If EtH is operating on a "need basis" game to game, then what has happened to his so-called "process"? It seems like a will'o'the wisp at the moment.

[@occulus8687]

A pattern is beginning to emerge with Ten Hag regarding his unfair treatment and lack of meritocracy in his management. Ronaldo then Sancho and now Amad. Ten Hag ego is destroying our club.

[@richyclubsport5155]

The Amad who hasn't signed the contract he was offered, he's not committed

[@briankenome]

For you to mention Ronaldo and Sancho exposes you.

[@matthewbaker2573]

if amad looked up instead of running into players, didn't slow down play giving defenders time to regroup and actually passed the ball in front of runners on United attacking breaks, he wouldn't have lost his starting position

[@bernardabang4107]

Ten Hag continues to come off as a man in self preservation mode and in borrowed time. I think we are seeing his last days. These games after the internationals were to see him start showing a consistent playing style but he keeps chopping and changing and its harder to watch than ever.

[@matthewbaker2573]

this is real life, not a computer game. players need to be rested due to overload of fixtures with extra internationals and extended european games

[@footballbeforecluborcountry]

Again, Onana shows when on his own he has what it takes. When you have Victor in front of you who doesn't play, he's standing in front of the wide side of a barn. Onana is a top keeper. He's kept us out of relegation.

[@wossislein2427]

Your intro music makes me keep coming back Sammy. Your sentiment is always spot on.

[@occulus8687]

This is a slow rot. Where are our standards? Drawing in the Europa league is never a decent result it’s not the champions league.Eriksen has been one of the best no.10s in the prem SMH

[@rubenfrankish]

In isolation it's OK, When you've not won in Europe in a year, and you've not won a game yet... not so much!

[@leemccccccc999]

The standards are slipping with these fans it’s sad to see

[@rubenfrankish]

@@leemccccccc999 Agreed, we're now a mid table team and a lower standard Europa league club... this won't last. ETH had his chance and has utterly crapped the bed so far this season... An Amber Heard Turd level shat the bed! There's no progression, no belief in the fanbase... I just can't be arsed watching them anymore, we are incapable of scoring goals in his system!

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@rubenfrankish real fans support their club no matter what - you are plastic

[@briankenome]

Everyone is an expert coach in hindsight! I will support 10hag till his last day at the club.

[@mofeece7256]

First half - 61% possession conceded to a Mourinho team, in Europe. Nuff said!!

[@user-w29vfwh59vd]

We still got a goal in that first half. Possession is not everything

[@proplayaa1]

Anyone that looks at progression as the end all be all doesn't try to understand football on a deeper level ​@user-w29vfwh59vd

[@mofeece7256]

@@user-w29vfwh59vd and my granny found a pound the day she was diagnosed with dementia. |Every cloud huh??

[@christophercooper2211]

His sacking is inevitable. Just get on with it. He can't complain, 600m, and the football is crap

[@matthewbaker2573]

managers haven't been in charge of transfer dealings since ferguson left - bringing up what's been spent just proves you don't know much about the game

[@christophercooper2211]

@matthewbaker2573 you telling me all those ex players of his have nothing at all to do with him.

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@christophercooper2211 he gives the board a list of players he wants to work with, along with back ups if his preference can't be met, it's their job to deal with transfer fees and wages. Had Woodward and Arnold not stalled until the end of the window, United would have got Antony for about 40million. Having to explain that just proves my point

[@christophercooper2211]

@matthewbaker2573 his list say no more. Just because he didn't negotiate the deal doesn't mean they aren't his players. You don't need to explain anything to me. I know exactly how it works. These are his players, end of

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@christophercooper2211 he's got players that were playing under Jose. Ferguson made muck ups as well with purchases. Bet you'd gobble his dik without him even asking

[@tri3183]

He said it's because of the hectic ambiance aka the Turkish crowds - Porto result went wrong so ofc he would try and adjust.

[@shivneelprakash3531]

Ten hag is just a transitional manager for ineos They're keeping him around till an upgrade is available They're tok smart not to have realized that this guy isn't gonna get us to the promise land

[@roborobinson7193]

Sam is Benni McCarty right are they seeing something different on the training pitch 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@aristeidisdeligiannis2556]

Patience is a virtue

[@matthewbaker2573]

precisely, even fergy needed 4 years to win his first trophy, 6 to win the league. most people here would gobble his dik without him even asking

[@NatashaBurton]

That’s INEOS JOB though. Ten hags job IS to take it game by game .. I’m not sure of your point here.

[@c74mm]

When Sam starts a stream with a sigh, we know we fkd up. I feel your pain bro & cannot figure out EtH train of thought? He ain’t the man for Manchester United as far as I’m concerned

[@bryanbriby8191]

We'll be here not too long ng from now again.under a new manager..too much mistakes in ganes

[@cornthdl]

Zirkzee playing in the 10 with Hojlund at 9…Ten Hag: “That would be too much. Heh.”

[@JoshuaAmao-y1p]

For me the coach didn't know what is doing, Rashford is becoming more and more dangerous is just the coach i think needs to find is decision right before some players start losing form like JOSHUA zik is just not himself

[@jimmyjohnsson4788]

A year without winning when we haven’t played in Europe for 9 of those months, come on man..

[@lalrinpuia_tlau]

2 decisions really dented any shred of hopa I had in EtH: the first was Mazroui as a 10 and the second was Antony coming in ahead of Amad.

[@matthewbaker2573]

if amad looked up instead of running into players, didn't slow down play giving defenders time to regroup and actually passed the ball in front of runners on United attacking breaks, he wouldn't have lost his starting position

[@edgerat]

I will give you a million dollars if you can name ONE coach that will be better than EtH that is available and WANTS to come to England. There aren't ANY. It's the players.

[@newhappiness4410]

Anthony may be killing it in training but he hasn’t made much impact every time he comes on so surely it’s time to change the tune n try Amad

[@matthewbaker2573]

if amad looked up instead of running into players, didn't slow down play giving defenders time to regroup and actually passed the ball in front of runners on United attacking breaks, he wouldn't have lost his starting position

[@newhappiness4410]

@@matthewbaker2573 possibly but we’re arguing that he’s better at this moment than Anthony at making an impact it’s probably why we’re looking at a winger

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@newhappiness4410 no possibly about it. Amad has been absolutely shocking at times. Lost count how many times rashford and Fernandez made 40 yard darting runs where they would have been one on one with the keeper for him to just run into a defender and then have to pass it backwards. Watch him run with the ball. His eyes are looking at the ground 🤦‍♂️

[@newhappiness4410]

@@matthewbaker2573 relax I haven’t disagreed with you but if you read the rest of my reply at the moment he is better than Anthony n we don’t have any other back up winger apart from the obvious two

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@newhappiness4410 no he isn't. Which is why he was dropped in the first place. You clearly haven't read what Ive wrote 🤦‍♂️

[@joni.sirvio8867]

you say injuries are not excuse but it literally hinders the progress, when players cannot play together all the time

[@matthewbaker2573]

precisely, ask rio what made him good, he'll say vidic. ask vidic the same, he'll say rio

[@matthewfarrell6147]

I think the amad situation is unfair to the lad he should be getting more game time he has proven in the past that he can change the game for us he is fast agile quick got good skill and stamina he should be getting more game time and I think its unfair on the lad he should be getting the opportunity to show ETH what he can do he can change the course of any game which we need right now

[@matthewbaker2573]

if amad looked up instead of running into players, didn't slow down play giving defenders time to regroup and actually passed the ball in front of runners on United attacking breaks, he wouldn't have lost his starting position

[@albinpauldevid6194]

We are playing much better as a team compared to our first two games. We will get there, this team will get there

[@leemccccccc999]

Wow your standards are shite mate

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@leemccccccc999 your plastic - he's done better than ferguson did when he had to overhaul the entire team - or are you going to tell me finishing bottom half the table 3 times is better than what ten hag has done

[@leemccccccc999]

@@matthewbaker2573 and your calling me plastic I will bet any money your not a match goer or from the area and don’t lie and pretend you are neither

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@leemccccccc999 I was going to live games in the 80s when Atkinson was manager. My dad came from Manchester moved for work. I bet I've seen more European away games than you have seen them at old Trafford. A real fan supports their club thick and thin. When are you THICKOS going to realize that changing managers is the biggest reason United have slumped

[@Reapz1212]

Ten hag out it’s that simple now. The man has lost the plot. He’s been given money,time and everything needed to make real change in the team and we’ve gone backwards. Admittedly the players have not performed but equally the manager’s decisions and reactions to games have made the players think this level is somewhat acceptable. He makes excuse after excuse no accountability we could lose a game 10-0 and he’d say “I don’t think we were bad” 🤣

[@matthewbaker2573]

when are you thickos going to realize that changing the manager is the BIGGEST reason for United's slump

[@bryanbriby8191]

When eth rotate its a problem when he doesn't its still a problem.rasmus is just coming from an injury I don't want him to get injured again playing every game ...i am trying not listen to too much football on x and KZbin its so depressing,because every youtuber is a coach

[@angelotroseboom1186]

What i find weird is when we score the goals we immediately start slowing fown the tempo. I do not believe ten hag instructs his players to do that

[@angelotroseboom1186]

And today felt like we didn't want to win anyway no selfless runs for each other no urgency to get another goal. It's like they prioritising the league above europa league every game.

[@Joanlow1440p]

It's Rashford Mentality once we scored he stops defending and starts walking like he is on a Red Carpet while on a Dress.

[@judeyyx2]

A team plays a certain way, consistently, for 3 years and somehow it’s not the fault of the man that’s supposed to be coaching them. Unbelievable.

[@Desco_p]

@@judeyyx2you lie too much. This is to show you don’t watch United games.

[@keyjones1678]

The reality is it's a draw away in Turkey against players and a manager with history at United in a game we don't necessarily need to win; he rested the players he needed to rest, and Ugarte showed why we brought him; it's not that bad. Do need a result against WH, though.

[@rubenfrankish]

I'm just waiting for his departure... we'll plod along being inconsistent and he may scrape the season... but the Anthony over Amad thing is one of the key reasons I'm finally done with this guy! I'm just sick of this manager now... he's such a stiff!

[@matthewbaker2573]

you aint no fan - you are plastic

[@miketipton1624]

Come-on Sam. Why would I listen to 53 minutes of you giving your opinion and very little else. Good result Sam. Fight effort and commitment( with the odd exception… Lindelof!). As soon as ETH brings AMAD in every week I’ll be happy.. Trust and be patient Sam

[@matthewbaker2573]

if amad looked up instead of running into players, didn't slow down play giving defenders time to regroup and actually passed the ball in front of runners on United attacking breaks, he wouldn't have lost his starting position

[@o.g717]

I really wish I could talk to Eric I think he needs a coach to coach him lol I feel he's not telling the players somethings on mentality. We score goal and relax instead of wanting more that's a very bad mentality that needs to change and I feel the coach is not saying it.

[@richyclubsport5155]

How many teams go to Turkey in European game's and win, historically few, even Alex struggled there. A draw away isn't a bad result.

[@arshpreetsingh4619]

Shame

[@rhyspowell9426]

In isolation it isn't bad but coupled with all our other results it is. Fergie was winning leagues and drawing to Turkish teams, we are 12th and drawing. There's a huge difference.

[@richyclubsport5155]

@@rhyspowell9426 did Alex win anything in his first three years? ETH two trophies

[@rubenfrankish]

And when we drop points against West Ham... then what. No progression under this manager. Just the usual favoritism, baffling choices and constant rotation that confuses. We're a mid-table team now under him, that's the truth. He's spent more than nearly every team bar Chelsea and maybe Arsenal... but still we get worse each season. I'm done with this guy! Enough is enough! He'll possibly scrape a few more months but we won't get much higher than 7th this season at best for me!

[@richyclubsport5155]

@@rubenfrankish off you go and support someone else then bye

[@stefanstefanescu3202]

We have to start to see, understand and accept that Erik Ten Hag is walking on the tip of his toes, in terms of his energy, knowledge, capability and personality since the beginning of the second season at Man United. He can't add anything anymore. The barrel is empty. Erik Ten Hag is not a top coach. And a top coach is what a club with Man United's history, statue and ambitions needs. End the farce, the suffering, the delusional wishing. Please.

[@Desco_p]

Define a top coach?? Please I really want to know. I guess you don’t know.

[@Feemo]

I don’t think we’ll qualify.

[@crooner4848]

So you go from not really progtessing to not progressing at all in the space of a night's sleep. Are you sure that you have got your depression in check?

[@tommyscars279]

Les Sealey would have come for that cross

[@connorgalvin05]

NY, USA

[@SamsungM34-o9j]

No timestamps again

[@dougposkitt1690]

Assuming ten Hag stays in post, maybe Amad needs to look for a move so he can play some football?

[@judeyyx2]

He absolutely should do. And then the idiots who sit and say he doesn’t deserve any minutes or defend ETH constantly overlooking him will say “why did we let him go?” when he inevitably does well wherever he goes, like he’s been doing well for us in the limited game time he’s been given.

[@keyjones1678]

​​@@judeyyx2where has he done well?. He was also average at Sunderland.

[@judeyyx2]

@@keyjones1678 😂 he was good enough at Atalanta for us to pick him up, a rough loan at Rangers but was fantastic for Sunderland - according to Sunderland fans too. Came back and got given a pathetic amount of minutes at United, which he made the most of by very frequently being the bright spark at the end of games that actually tries something. I mean, he got a few minutes last night and did more than the players that play ahead of him in those few minutes than they did the whole game. If you don’t actually know how players perform, I’d refrain from speaking on them.

[@keyjones1678]

@@judeyyx2 14 goals in 40 odd appearances in the championship is fat from fantastic. You're just another crayon eater with the new shiny object syndrome. He was good against Southampton and okay against Brighton; the rest of the games I mentioned he was poor. If you think starting a 5.7" 60kg Amad was the right choice, in midfield against a Mourinho team with Fred and Amrabat away in Turkey was the right thing to do. Then you're the one who needs to give your head a wobble.

[@keyjones1678]

@@judeyyx2 14 goals in 40 odd appearances in the championship is hardly fantastic. You just have the new shiny object syndrome. He was good against Southampton and okay against Brighton; the rest of the games I mentioned he was poor. If you think starting a 5.7" 60kg Amad was the right choice, playing in midfield against a Mourinho team with Fred and Amrabat away in Turkey was the right thing to do. You are the one who needs to give your head a wobble. I hope he turns out to be the next Messi, but I just don't see it, and I think your exaggerating how he's performed.

[@RukkyCrypto]

ETH is just clueless and should be sacked

[@leemccccccc999]

Bout time fans wake up the standards are on the floor ten hag is shite

[@Desco_p]

Since Alex left as coach United have been failing. You all just blame all and everything on this manager. If this manger go and another comes you fans will still complain.

[@angelotroseboom1186]

Too many draws. Not even si many losses just too many draws

[@MuscabLeo-ll6ww]

I can't see any progression

[@matthewbaker2573]

6 years without a trophy before he came, 2 since. you are dim

[@TrevorTyroneSSH]

Stop crying bro it's only football

[@viewerman99]

Baffling tactics, poor entertainment, very low winning percentage.

[@matthewbaker2573]

his win percentage stats aren't far off Jose's

[@proplayaa1]

The man has lost 3 games in the first 12 games of the season. The way some of you overreact, you would think he's on a 12-game losing streak 😂

[@judeyyx2]

4 wins all season, 1 win in 7. Have some standards. ALL fans, especially online, overreact on both ends of the spectrum but there’s just absolutely no defending this. Saying people are overreacting and trying to downplay what we’re seeing is part of why this club has rotted away for over a decade.

[@proplayaa1]

@@judeyyx2 but objectively, you're all overreacting. When the season ends, then you justify your reaction or not.

[@lasunkanmimoses6797]

Rubbish talk! Standards in the bin, not sure you’re a United fan 🤡

[@matthewbaker2573]

@@lasunkanmimoses6797 the standards that were set by ferguson? who finished bottom half the table 3 times before winning the league? you aint no fan - you are plastic

[@maryrosecachia1403]

Boring game

[@davidkerrigan7826]

I'm starting to drift away from this channel because Sam is being too negative - it was a tough fixture against a top tactical and pragmatic manager in Mourinho. Getting a result in a tough fixture. It was a decent permformance. Sam wants United to go gungho for the win , which is what we have done in the last ten European fixtures and how did that work out? Sam complained then and he complains now, when we are more conservative against a dangerous side at their home. Sam sounds like a fan who's niaive and blinkered about footbal and United...he puts his opinion out and he refuses to take criticism and tells people to do one, when they do. I'm off to Terry Fleurs because it's a bit more constructive.

[@judeyyx2]

Oh, bore off. He’s finally starting to be negative after 2 entire years of pathetic football? How shocking. Off you pop.

[@richyclubsport5155]

Webby and O'Neill are bang on point unlike all these channels who the presenters think they are coaches and managers, and earning fortune's spouting garbage

[@lasunkanmimoses6797]

You can fvck if you don’t have any standards 🤡