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Andy Edwards

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@davebarker4880
@davebarker4880 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Andy for saying "Great music needs great listeners." I can't play any instrument and I can't sing, but I appreciate and listen to great music. And I appreciate you and your work.
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw 2 ай бұрын
A retired colleague of mine with much brain capacity has very precise hearing with multiphonic perception. He says he has never been able to listen to popular music because it has always been so dull music. So he has been passionate about different kinds of classical music using an expensive hi-fi system. He doesn't know any theory but is very much a trained and skilled listener. Listening is definitely _a skill_ . It also can be trained and developed infinitely, just like playing music.
@lonewolf8667
@lonewolf8667 2 ай бұрын
@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw Isn't popular music a wide array of genres that sounds different from decade to decade? What genres is he referring to?
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw 2 ай бұрын
@lonewolf8667 You figure it out. What has had most plays on radio and such. Burgermusic for the masses.
@lonewolf8667
@lonewolf8667 2 ай бұрын
@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw I haven't listened to the radio in at least 16 years. I have tried to listen to Taylor Swift and Kanye since they are in the news sometimes. I thought that all music that are played a lot and are well known are popular music which would be rock, progressive rock, electronika, techno, dance, jazz, blues, some classical pieces, punk, grunge, metal, synth etc.
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw 2 ай бұрын
@@lonewolf8667 Don't overthink it. The general quality of what the companies have pushed on the public for decades.
@coolguitarchannel
@coolguitarchannel 2 ай бұрын
Andy is the only major music KZbinr that says the things all we proper music fans think. The point about real music fans having the ears to hear true music, no matter the medium in which it’s delivered, is quite true. It’s doesn’t matter the speed, or the style, etc. But harmony, execution…those things matter.
@markperry9427
@markperry9427 2 ай бұрын
"You are all here because you love music" YES, and that is why we tune in to your videos Andy, not because we're specific genre fans but because we love music, we live and love to talk about music, we want our understanding of music to grow, it is the passion of our soul. "I have spent my time, not learning new things but unlearning the assumptions I had about music". That my friend is our journey through life and the older I get the more I understand that, unlearning all the rubbish I've been taught to assume and at last become a person I recognize in the mirror.
@annonimouse170
@annonimouse170 Ай бұрын
Excellent post... I concur.
@chrisross-fd3fo
@chrisross-fd3fo Ай бұрын
1st sentence 2nd paragraph if you were to replace the last word with "blank" it may be the most callous heartless thing we do to each other as mutual inhabitants on Earth... To waste so much time with so much arrogance and lack of confidence & (cognitive dissonance.. A. E.)
@chrisross-fd3fo
@chrisross-fd3fo Ай бұрын
1st sentence 2nd paragraph if you were to replace the last word with "blank" it may be the most callous heartless thing we do to each other as mutual inhabitants on Earth... To waste so much time with so much arrogance and lack of confidence & (cognitive dissonance.. A. E.). unlearning a6hit is a bitch
@chernobylcoleslaw6698
@chernobylcoleslaw6698 Ай бұрын
We are also deeply autistic.
@mymixture965
@mymixture965 2 ай бұрын
As a pro guitar player for 40 years now, all I can say is that ALL THIS IS TRUE. Andy, you are giving the secrets away🙂
@stuartmenziesfarrant
@stuartmenziesfarrant 2 ай бұрын
👍 yup
@toddapplegate3988
@toddapplegate3988 2 ай бұрын
Same
@candelise
@candelise 2 ай бұрын
@@toddapplegate3988 So what if the secrets are given away? Ultimately, not everyone has the talent , inclination, dedication, urge, or just plain state of mind for sheer hard graft in learning an instrument, let alone taking things as far as sharing what you can accomplish in front of an audience.
@James-hd4ms
@James-hd4ms 2 ай бұрын
This is one of your ten best shows.
@Liisa3139
@Liisa3139 2 ай бұрын
To paraphrase the saying "you can't step into the same stream twice" I would say "you can't listen to the same music twice". That is my experience as a listener. I put on a Beatles record - one of the early, "simple", ones - and it is different every time. Because I'm different from one moment to the next and the more I listen to the same song, the more I find in it. I don't listen to "same old songs" for nostalgic reasons like so many people seem to do. (My memory is crap. Hardly remember any special moments.) I listen to my favorite music again to rediscover it, to hear it better. This way there is tons of new music to listen. Not to forget new releases that may season into "good old songs". Listened to Santana's Abraxas album last night and noticed how proggy it is. His work has been labeled so Latin that the label hides how much more it is than that.
@vagabond197979
@vagabond197979 2 ай бұрын
I know what you mean. I try to revisit my favorite albums at least once a year. I find that as a listener I have grown when I discover new things to like (or sometimes dislike) in an album I've heard a hundred times. That's one of the cool things about music. Even old music can become new again. I love that.
@christopher9152
@christopher9152 2 ай бұрын
Your Philosophy Saturday videos are the main reason why I follow your channel, though I enjoy the others. DO NOT STOP MAKING THEM. OK? Nobody else on KZbin is doing this. Plenty are doing ranking videos.
@SaintJermania
@SaintJermania Ай бұрын
Fantastic video! What worries me about the current generation audience (and by this I don't just mean younger people, but anyone engaged in today's media environment,) is that with all of these different sources demanding our attention, there just literally isn't enough time left in the day to fully engage with a single art form, like getting into jazz fusion or indie rock slowcore. Look at me, I just spent over an hour on Saturday morning listening to some guy talk about music instead of diving into Bill Evans.
@boudiccamarchestorome9475
@boudiccamarchestorome9475 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Andy, I'm not sure why you worry that this will annoy non-musicians. I began as a child playing violin, piano, and guitar. I played and sang briefly with garage bands. Luckily, my parents had eclectic tastes. Took music theory in college, and then came to the conclusion that I wasn't skilled enough (shades of Ian Anderson backing off the electric guitar). I then got sort of creative on my own: I was often the only woman in an all-male blue collar skilled trade and 20 years later, I had succeeded despite obstacles. I also developed a new-found appreciation in the lyrics of music, and have since discovered that great lyrics are almost harder to come by than great music.
@pjjmsn
@pjjmsn 2 ай бұрын
Great point about art weaving the objective and subjective together. I never saw it from that angle before.
@sat1241
@sat1241 2 ай бұрын
Listen to this one by Ahmad Jamal, " I Love Music". It has some similarities to Bill Evans but with some Tyner mixed in.
@mazieways
@mazieways 2 ай бұрын
Comedian, pundit, musician philosopher… plus a wig video coming soon- you are amazing Andy!
@MatthewSearComposer
@MatthewSearComposer 2 ай бұрын
These type of videos are a real service to any of us working in music in these changing times. Thank you. Sincerely. 🙏 While I have a lot of skepticism about the way music education has gone, one thing I would say that is positive, is several degree courses run (in uk conservatoires) have modules specifically about marketing, social media, Patreon and instilling in students, how they have to be entrepreneurial. (I sat this module in 2021 as a returning student on a post grad course). In the mid to late 90’s. The expectations was completely different (when I was an undergraduate). It was ‘I’ve gotten into this good institute and I will work as a French horn player/harpist/composer etc once I leave.
@davidbarnes3232
@davidbarnes3232 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video. You have a great talent for articulating your thoughts and ideas in a way that is informative, detailed and entertaining.
@davidbarnes3232
@davidbarnes3232 2 ай бұрын
Don't you sleep
@frankr.6578
@frankr.6578 Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, Andy! All your vids are as Informative and entertaining as KZbin entries possibly can be. Almost 40 years ago I had to decide whether to go on with music as a profession. I am now happy that I didn't. Now retired I can do music just for fun not having lost pleasure in doing so. I know several pro musicians ending up in jobs doing things they don't like, or some who love there jobs but are paid beyond blush of shame. Music is an essential ingredient for the people's lifes, but the appreciation is as low as it can get. All the best for Christmas and your new year!
@na-tusk
@na-tusk 2 ай бұрын
Music can be experienced at many levels. The technical. The lyrical. The emotional. The cultural. You appreciate one level only.
@HansGijswijt
@HansGijswijt 2 ай бұрын
Yet again thoroughly enjoyed your video, Andy. Not only are you at very funny, your opinions are always crystal clear and well founded. Not a musician myself, I do however recognise the immense love for music. And our tastes are probably quite different! Very happy to have come across your channel! Keep up the good work!
@spacechallenger5767
@spacechallenger5767 2 ай бұрын
This is a really good one Andy !🙌🏿
@steverogers2635
@steverogers2635 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video Andy! And I especially agree with the point you made about being ready to accept and enjoy different genres of music. To expand one's horizons. At least that how I understood it. It took me almost forty years to love and appreciate jazz music. Progressive rock and fusion pointed the way, but it was radio shows from my local college that really got me hooked. Now I can't imagine not having artists like John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker and many others in my music collection.
@cameronpatrickscott
@cameronpatrickscott 2 ай бұрын
Need the old red light recording in progress...
@jublaim
@jublaim 2 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this very much. Most of your videos "are like music" to me and I'm still learning and having a great time.
@pedrohorta6266
@pedrohorta6266 2 ай бұрын
Best hour-long Andy Rant ever👌
@c.j.saxamamamia2828
@c.j.saxamamamia2828 19 күн бұрын
We are proper music fans thats why we/I love your channel. So so often i agree with your points and humorous digs. Good on you Andy.
@eb303b
@eb303b 2 ай бұрын
OK, you've totally sold the wig video to me, I just wanna see it now! 🤣
@SteveConkie-t6r
@SteveConkie-t6r 2 ай бұрын
Well, I am very glad I watched this. Andy can come across as a bit of a pub bore at times, but I almost felt like I met the real Andy today. Thank you.
@thormusique
@thormusique 29 күн бұрын
Andy, I don't even know what to say. But you've blown me away here. Absolutely everything you've said here is so true. Of course, because music - and especially 'popular' music - has been so commodified, I doubt that 90% of viewers of this video will really understand the nuance of what you're saying. Lots of pearls of wisdom in what you say, though. There's nothing I can add to what you've said here, but here's something: Even John Coltrane, although he practised all bloody day and night, would not have considered himself a 'virtuoso'. And he only practicesed that much because he wanted to be able to express what he was feeling. That's really the ticket, innit? When a guitar student asks me what he/she needs to do to become great at guitar, I simply tell them they need to do absolutely everything they do to be able to express themselves. This is assuming they feel they absolutely have to play music - not that they simply want to as some sort of bloody hobby. I tell them to make music because they have to, not simply because they 'want' to. If they don't feel they're absolutely compelled to make music, then I tell them to piss off. Cheers!
@davidstair9657
@davidstair9657 2 ай бұрын
I am in my Home studio, in the midst of the most amazing solo in the history of mankind, my wife knocks and asks me to take out the rubbish. She does not note the tears streaming down my face, mingled with sweat… and perhaps blood. My wife does not understand. I love her, but she is not a musician, though she loves Alice in Chains. She says it is the same with her and her true crime and murder shows… that I don’t understand…
@william6223
@william6223 2 ай бұрын
She does not, cannot, and will never understand. Carry on. I understand Rock hard!😂
@MG53v8
@MG53v8 2 ай бұрын
@@davidstair9657 mine always shows up chatting during the best take of the day, bless her.
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw 2 ай бұрын
Aren't the TV shows and Alice in chains enough clues?
@davidc.williams-swanseauk3623
@davidc.williams-swanseauk3623 2 ай бұрын
I hear you brother! A prophet is never accepted in his own land.
@chrisbennett1243
@chrisbennett1243 2 ай бұрын
My girlfriend was a singer songwriter before she suffered a brain injury. During lockdown I started playing a lot of guitar and got a bit better. I wrote a song and recorded it on my phone. I played it to her in the car on Bluetooth without telling her who it was. I said what do you think of this she said it’s f…..g s..t I said do you know who it’s bye I said it’s me. Oh it’s not bad she said I naturally went for her first opinion as I knew it was honest.
@incognitoatunknown2702
@incognitoatunknown2702 2 ай бұрын
I drink up the Philosophy 'formerly Sunday' YT videos like a frat boy chugging beers at a kegger. Your Top Ranked videos are great fun (I do learn things from them as well) but for me, these videos hold the most value for my viewing time X the space it takes up in my brain to mull over.
@zenf1sh
@zenf1sh 17 күн бұрын
You are absolutely right. When I was a teen I used to focus so intensely on Vinnie's playing in Joe's Garage 1, 2 and 3, that I would feel a blissful joy. Later, in my 20s, when I got intensely into meditating I felt the same joy of being in the moment. It also happened many times when I played my drums. You described it perfectly. I remember one time, when I was high, I went into a visionary state when Catholic Girls was fading out and Crew Slut was fading in. But, who needs drugs? All you need to do is concentrate to the point where you forget yourself and all there is is the music. Happened to me many times, even gigging in a country band as a teen. I would completely disappear and all there would be was the blissful enjoyment of playing the music.
@kratino
@kratino Ай бұрын
This is a great idea for a video. I learned so much as I always do from you. Speaking of speed, we should mention ELP. All of that "bombast" crap is such a ridiculous assessment. Another music channel host recently posted a video about what a huge risk it was for them to tackle "Pictures at an Exhibition," live, no less, and risk a commercial flop so soon out of the gate. As a matter of fact, they chose, adapted, and perfectly performed a stunning piece of classical music that exposed people who would not otherwise have listened to every dynamic in the musical spectrum. Sales of orchestral versions rocketed, and who knows how many were inspired to become professional classical musicians. It was ballsy, mind-blowing, and life-altering.
@robertjoy4846
@robertjoy4846 2 ай бұрын
Love Bill Evans music. I'm a non musician and quite uneducated on the subject, but chancing actoss an old tv programme of a Bill Evans gig started me on a journey into jazz and indeed wider music appreciation. You are my educator and i really appreciate the work you do Andy.
@LeanBearMusic
@LeanBearMusic Ай бұрын
You are a wonderfully nuanced thinker, and articulate. I love your philosophical talks.
@stevensimons9813
@stevensimons9813 2 ай бұрын
Another killer show, Andy. That Dylan guy, he’s The Rock Poet. Give his later albums a chance. He’s still got it.
@hilde45
@hilde45 Ай бұрын
In college, I wanted to be a jazz guitarist, and I studied 9 months with Pat Martino. (Martino was a hero of mine, along with Steve Khan, John McLaughlin, and John Abercrombie.) I knew from that experience that I couldn't make it in music. But what I did better than play the guitar, was draw out Martino on his philosophy of why music matters and how it creates meaning in the wider world. So I chose to become a philosophy professor instead. I've found your analyses to be very philosophical and sparkling with humor and common sense. You keep saying that all of this is your "opinion." But this is clearly argumentation - well founded, justified, and illustrated. Very philosophical in the best sense of that word.Thank you for your channel and keep on talking.
@billphelps5611
@billphelps5611 2 ай бұрын
Interesting discussion. I like the way you explain things. One thing I would like to point out on the topic of people who think if it's too fast there is no emotion. The song Shadows Of by Gong with Allan Holdsworth, (rework of Velvet Darkness) is just magic. Toward the end when the song seems to end and then it comes back gently with AH on acoustic guitar, his playing there gives me chills every single time I hear it, it's giving me chills thinking about it.....if that isn't emotion I don't know what is!
@MartinBaldock
@MartinBaldock 2 ай бұрын
This is the first of your videos I've watched, and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Thankyou Andy. I'm 76 going on 26 (so I'm told by those that know me), my taste in music continues to shift and evolve. While I do still enjoy t same he stuff that first informed me that there was music beyond the taste of my parents, I still delight in bumping into something different. I've dabbled in making my own over the years but never with a band until 12yrs ago. We wrote a 35 minute suite covering the main facets of a lifespan, an audio/visual piece. Then I went on to make noises with an improvising trio who never played anything the same twice. My last band did Americana, folk,country and classic rock covers. Well, I had to find out what it was like didn't I!!! Had a bit of fun, but it became boring. Since retiring from thedayjob I've taken up the visual arts full time, painting, 3D stuff, and audio visual too. Anyhow, I like your style and am subscribed, looking forward to the wig thing
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum 2 ай бұрын
I worked in a very competitive industry, one that took a lot of effort to stay on top of. I don't play an instrument, and have never tried. Music for me is something in which I can just listen and accept what I hear without a hint of "I could do that", or any form of competitive feeling. Every musician is better than me, and that brings me pure pleasure. I like what I like, I don't like what I don't, and that's good enough.
@drytool
@drytool 2 ай бұрын
What an education! Priceless!
@simonmccafferty
@simonmccafferty 2 ай бұрын
Andy, well said! I so needed to hear someone else express all that so eloquently. From 50 minutes on I was cheering you on and clapping, thank you for making me shriek in appreciation. I think I enjoyed this more than any of your other videos so far.
@PlguDctR-yb7mi
@PlguDctR-yb7mi 2 ай бұрын
I am an elementary school music teacher with a master's degree in philosophy. You are absolutely up my alley and I'm grateful for this content.
@areirving
@areirving 2 ай бұрын
What a joy to listen to. Deeply felt opinions and ideas, informed by knowledge and life experience spontaneously and earnestly expressed. What a joy and privilege.
@MrSatampra
@MrSatampra 2 ай бұрын
The typical way we determine whether something is good or not is by comparing it to what we have heard before. This is how we know how to judge something. But if the thing is truly new and original, we have nothing to compare it to and therefore, we don't really know how to judge it.
@erikheddergott5514
@erikheddergott5514 2 ай бұрын
That is were we Non-Musicians can Risk ourselves. From 1979 to about 1984 we had “New Wave”. Pop and Rock that used Approaches that went against the Grain of what was done in Pop and matured Hyphon-Rock. We didn’t now whether that Stuff or these Musicians would last longer than 5 to 6 Years. But the BOF‘s of Flower Power Pop and Hippie Rock usually didn‘ get it. They neither got Prince nor Talking Heads in their first 5 to 6 Years. They were considered to be Neon Colored Anti-Authentic Plastic Producers. But many Non Musicians were the Reason why this New Wavers had Gigs. To take it to the Extreme: It‘s not Musicians who define good Pop, its 12 to 21 Year old „Girls“. It‘s not Musicians who defined good Rock, it was 15 to 25 Years old „Boys“!
@Mondgeist7777
@Mondgeist7777 2 ай бұрын
Even if you have just 30 fans who watch the content on your page, instagram, KZbin, or other … you have an audience! Keep at it!
@shawndowntown
@shawndowntown 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! In point number one you have articulated something I have only been able to feel for years. There are levels of quality in art and the ability to understand and discern the why and what of those levels is imperative in allowing art to move forward. I don't agree with everything you say all the time but man, you absolutely hit the nail on the head with this video.
@Original3523
@Original3523 Ай бұрын
Really enjoyable episode, keep at it and thank you.
@Stonloy
@Stonloy 2 ай бұрын
Profound video Andy, consider me a new subscriber from the last 25 minutes alone
@tiagojnrm
@tiagojnrm 2 ай бұрын
You're such an amazing speaker, Andy. Love love love your posts. Great hair, btw.
@slobodanudarac5
@slobodanudarac5 Ай бұрын
Incredible! Love it!
@jerrypotente872
@jerrypotente872 2 ай бұрын
Thanks again Andy, based on my respect for your musical ears, I’ve been checking out Bill Evans and quite liking what I’m hearing got to add him to one of my favorite jazz pianist! I think it’s very valuable that you share your sanguine and realistic thoughts on how to make it in the music business and not delude yourself in our modern world. I think a lot of what the gatekeeper and the media cell has important music as well as other arts are just a lot of rubbish , but flying below the radar not approved by the power brokers is great new music great new books great new film and TV and great new visual art. And perhaps 2/3 of the people in the world to a truly talented and creative and perhaps you were never really gonna get recognized like you say the ones who are perceptive and bright like you will channel the new media to get their voices out to the world whatever their voices are OK keep up the good work and perhaps based on my 30 years of writing songs with a brilliant brill building tunesmith Lou I cited before in my messages. I might one day in a. ‘ Long distance runaround.’ aspiration actually get to talk to you on one of your podcasts about my 40 years in the music business and my never-ending quest to succeed with my visual art and my music don’t give up the ship till the fat lady sings.! all right brother we’re all rooting for you. You’re gonna be bigger than Beato soon and keep being a teacher and a kind heart and a smart ass. We love you here in America I mean fans oh yeah, you mention passing the soccer ball to Gerard it was quite nice of you to think of me as my birth name is Gerard Potente ha ha ha, ha lol cheers
@garyfontanini9646
@garyfontanini9646 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Andy, great video, I'm off to watch ten greatest wigs, let's face it it's so much more important than understanding the philosophy of music, WIGS it's what we need. Also biscuits and crisps..oh you've done them.
@russjenkins5330
@russjenkins5330 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant video Andy! Always a treat!
@WordsRuinMusic
@WordsRuinMusic 2 ай бұрын
I had this video playing while doing yoga
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 2 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting episode. I spent the bulk of my twenties mastering a skill other than music. I believe I got pretty good at it. I also picked up a classical guitar and learned a little bit about that genre because I loved listening to excellent guitarists and found that learning to play it a bit was a healthy correction to the single minded efforts I put into my professional pursuits. I’ve played guitar off and on, in different forms since then though I haven’t become very proficient at it. For the last 8 to ten years or so I’ve been learning jazz standards and the rudiments of improvisation though I’m still not a very proficient guitarist. I’m no longer able to practice my profession so I have a little more time to spend on music. I do believe that, though I haven’t become a very good guitarist, I am better able to discern a good guitarist. Because I know a little music theory, I better understand what true musicians are communicating. That’s why I like this channel. I’m not going to formally study music but channels like this do broaden and deepen my limited ability to understand the art form.
@JunkerOnDrums
@JunkerOnDrums 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for many good points :D I did not know Michael Bubble is using autotune. Some of his arragnements are great, and if you want to hear a pale Frank Sinatra live - imposible since Sinatra is dead - that's and option. Poor listeners must be educated to be good listeners :D P.S: Love Bill Evans!
@Philharpo
@Philharpo 26 күн бұрын
Agree. I was exposed to classical music at a young age but when I heard blues it stopped me in my tracks. I love Peter Green and Paul Butterfield. I truly admire Charlie Mingus who to me had in your words "had command over every thing in music". But I thank my parents who allowed me to explore music and develop an ear. Oddly in delving into blues and then jazz I missed most British music punk, progressive and rock. I think I am a serious listener but there just isn't time to take it all in, is there? I get Coltrane and Bill Evans but Muddy still makes my spine tingle too..
@JoachimToft
@JoachimToft 2 ай бұрын
Food for thought, as always. Great work Andy!
@pjjmsn
@pjjmsn 2 ай бұрын
I agree with what you said about Bill Evans, Andy, that there is so much information in his music that that can make it hard to listen to. In the same vein, I have had experiences where I shut it off because it was too emotional for me at the time, in a melancholy way. But things have shifted for me and now I can listen to it without such an aversive reaction.
@caramanico1
@caramanico1 2 ай бұрын
Great channel Andy. When I analyze my own taste, the majority of the time what I enjoy is music that generally strikes a good balance between technical ability and songwriting. Of course The Beatles and Led Zep are two prime examples. Then throw in ELP, Yes, Renaissance, UK Steely Dan, Deep Purple, King Crimson, Mostly Autumn, PInk Floyd, Queen, The Who, etc.. But of course I do love me some ZZ Top at high volume with the car windows down. Or Kraftwerk if I'm just in that specific mood at the moment.
@trippknotic
@trippknotic 2 ай бұрын
I’m definitely up for the wigs video😂
@robertlewis8024
@robertlewis8024 2 ай бұрын
Count me in!
@originalhgc
@originalhgc 2 ай бұрын
Lovely talk today, Sensei. I am enlightened again.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@JDWDMC
@JDWDMC 2 ай бұрын
Allan Holdsworth. Bill Bruford's Master Strokes Anthology has some of the most emotional content ever played on guitar. That album remains fresh and important to me in a way very few other albums do and a lot of it, despite me being a drummer, is down to Allan Holdsworth's massive contribution to this body of work. All the musos on it are fantastic. "Fainting in Coils" is one of my favourite pieces ever. But then many people disagree, vehemently, with me, including my wife. Good video though, mate!
@boudiccamarchestorome9475
@boudiccamarchestorome9475 2 ай бұрын
Funny bit about John Paul Jones' wig. If Andy is highlighting his enviable hair, he scores on that one.
@bebopisthetruth
@bebopisthetruth 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful video, Andy. I love the parts about listeners not having the skill to appreciate some music and how you have to come back later to perhaps hear more. I’m currently doing this with jazz piano trios, which, as a horn player, sounded to me like nothing more than a rhythm section 😊. Regarding the arc of genres, from novel to popular to pastiche: I see this with rock, blues, so-called, classical, even, dearest to my heart, jazz, but how do you account for American country music? It started small, like blues, folk, jazz, and rock, became a huge commercial juggernaut, like rock, but rock fell away and country is still a commercial success with mainstream popularity? How long can this go on? And speaking of authenticity, don’t get me started with country music….
@kneeboarderndevon
@kneeboarderndevon 2 ай бұрын
Obviously just come here to request the wig video! 😂 Great video Andy, thought provoking as always
@paulkenyon3372
@paulkenyon3372 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant vid Andy 👍 oh you know I want a wigs vid 💯 Sincere regrets, I was two of the empty seats for your recent gig, soooo gutted I didn't get there, nought to do with Dylan tho. So a person can be clever enough to understand football whilst not being clever enough to appreciate Holdsworth.... and ...vice versa? Theo Von? Whatcha looking for over there? 😁 Will you be bringing any of his type of subject over here? Conspiracy Thursdays? ...Silver plaque! Spot on with the educated guess about small pots for bonsai 👍 Wigs! Wigs! Wigs!
@georgivaramezov9939
@georgivaramezov9939 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree! Especially number one! I'm a musician and I share these points of view!💞
@pjjmsn
@pjjmsn 2 ай бұрын
I like the idea that the purpose of great music is to teach the listener, or evolve the listener in a spiritual way. I think Mclaughlin's Guru, Sri Chinmoy, stated that music can bring you to enlightenment. And it was in that spirit that I would listen to every note of Mclaughlin and his cohorts that I could get my hands on during my formative years. I drifted away from that idea later, as I questioned the meaning of things, but I have since returned to it.
@brentshymko
@brentshymko 2 ай бұрын
You seem to be an interesting fellow, Andy. Subbed, from small-town rural Canada.
@riffmondo9733
@riffmondo9733 2 ай бұрын
Great one Andy. I concur.
@cameronpatrickscott
@cameronpatrickscott 2 ай бұрын
Uve got a football stadiums worth of mates Andy, and i'm one of em.
@harryconner1030
@harryconner1030 2 ай бұрын
interesting comments on authenticity. This has always been fascinating to me.
@dancyprus6863
@dancyprus6863 2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this, thank you for sharing 😊
@soundssimple1
@soundssimple1 2 ай бұрын
Good video, No9, you never have got over Milliontown have you ? Still an outstanding album in my collection.
@AndyLeMaitre
@AndyLeMaitre 2 ай бұрын
Tell you what Andy, you REALLY made me think!
@PeterWasted
@PeterWasted 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure Richie Blackmore will be high on the list of Iconic Wig wearers. This video is exactly why I subscribe and support you on Patreon. I'm not totally sold on your top two points, but then, I'm not a musician. I do find "fast" playing can often be distracting from the apparent intent of the music. It doesn't mean I can't appreciate the skill involved and I fully accept that it works for the musicians involved. My position though, as a listener IS equally valid. Perhaps the real issue is how non-musicians voice their opinions. Perhaps, "not to my taste" and, "I can't get emotionally engaged" are better descriptors but the whole of the English speaking world is set up as if our personal opinions are somehow superior to those of others. May I suggest Steven Wilson's Drive Home as a good gateway song for understanding how fast playing can be emotional?
@javiervalles9782
@javiervalles9782 2 ай бұрын
This is so refreshing. A few biases that I hadn’t realized were common and do agree with you on. I’m usually the only cynic in the room about this stuff, though
@duanedoberman
@duanedoberman 2 ай бұрын
I'm not saying this one went on a bit Andy, but the ad breaks came as a blessed relief at times, and there were quite a few. I'll definitely be there for your wigs video though!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 2 ай бұрын
Philosophy Saturday videos are supposed to go on too long. Next week I might do a video that is really too long as an experiment...that is a great idea. It will be called 'How Long is Too Long'
@Joethedrummer
@Joethedrummer 2 ай бұрын
Virtuosity is the tone of pure derision in your voice when you said "Jane Macdonald" 😂😂😂. Easily worth the hour and a half of life I lost listening to this. Excellent.
@rabbitisrich
@rabbitisrich 2 ай бұрын
We're dealing in multitudes. Most of my music heroes aren't virtuosic. Most of them, I am sure, could be made to look pretty foolish in a session setting. Their talent lies in songwriting, their ear for music, and their ability to communicate something. I greatly admire virtuosic playing, and in the world of classical music and jazz, which I love as well, it's commonplace. But if someone can make magic out of a few chords that's just as remarkable. We're comparing apples with pears with oranges. We don't have to decide. We can enjoy it all. I also love your comment about the world needing great listeners. The same can be said of great readers. Less than 4 per cent of books sold are 'serious fiction' or literary. Most people just read pap.
@Allgoodbookstores
@Allgoodbookstores Ай бұрын
I’m a drummer(used to be)& love the drums on Slint’s Spiderland, as much as some other of my favourites. It’s non technical & blows my mind…
@erikheddergott5514
@erikheddergott5514 2 ай бұрын
Chuck Berry wrote his own Songs. He started the Rock Revolution that made the Singer-Songwriter Guitarplayer the Archetype of the Rock Auteur, surely more than Eddie Cochran. Before him the Stars of Rock‘n‘Roll were Singers, Piano Players and Tenor Sax Players.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 2 ай бұрын
Yes you are right, as did Ray Charles. Ike Turner etc,
@jpmwright
@jpmwright 2 ай бұрын
Great video. I honestly think it might be your best. Your rant about soccer had me in stiches 😂 I have exactly the same feeling as you. I would rather be listening to music in primary school than watching a bunch of plonkers kicking a ball around. Music was casual for everyone but I took it seriously. Very good points, maybe time to write a book...... But please narrate the audio book.
@erikheddergott5514
@erikheddergott5514 2 ай бұрын
Dennis Chambers who was a Biggie in the Studioszene of the early 1980ties actively searched for Jobs in the Jazzrock Fusion Szene because he feared already back then that the Time of real Drumming in the Studios will vanish. And that he might get replaced by the „Machines“. So he got himself a Job with John Scofield, after that he went to John Mc Laughlin and returned to Funk mainly for Maceo Parker. He often played in CAB and Mike Stern. As said: He already saw this 40 Years Ago.
@dpaulm
@dpaulm 2 ай бұрын
Bravo, Andy! From a big fan in Alberta, Canada. Love your content!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@calum54
@calum54 2 ай бұрын
Well, all I’ve got to say is that Rick Beato thinks that Jeff Beck is a virtuoso. So there. This is one of the best ones you’ve done Andy. thanks very much.
@johannhauffman323
@johannhauffman323 2 ай бұрын
Great video Andy ! Very interesting.
@NealMurfitt
@NealMurfitt 2 ай бұрын
Talking about fast playing, that banjo solo in Electric Sighs reduces me to tears every time. So much feeling.
@mikemonday4355
@mikemonday4355 2 ай бұрын
Subscribed. I can take a hint. Very good stuff sir.
@auroraromano7404
@auroraromano7404 2 ай бұрын
Very profound. And I also keep coming to hear you slag on Americana and David gilmour
@marshlanderdumarais264
@marshlanderdumarais264 2 ай бұрын
Lots of food for thought. Cheers!
@galesito1733
@galesito1733 2 ай бұрын
I love your channel, Andy. I don't agree with all of your opinions but I do love listening to you start off quiet and then go into a rant. Have you ever watched a series called "Saxondale" by Steve Coogan? If you haven't then you should watch it immediately, you would love it! It's a series made for men of our age with certain tastes in music. It's also a great laugh.
@Alex-nm7qx
@Alex-nm7qx 2 ай бұрын
Excellent talk, Andy - One of your best. Interesting that you mentioned Shawn Lane. I always refer to him as "The greatest guitarist nobody talks about" - a true genius who left us WAY too soon due to health problems. He worshiped Allan Holdsworth. Every time I hear Buckethead, I hear a little bit of Shawn Lane in there. Your observation about art weaving the objective and subjective together was brilliant as well. Bravo. +1 for a top ten wigs video.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 2 ай бұрын
Lenny Breau is without doubt the guitar genius that nobody talks about, but Lane was incredible too, and super emotional as well
@Alex-nm7qx
@Alex-nm7qx 2 ай бұрын
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Ahh - The great Lenny Breau indeed. It's interesting that you just made the Bill Evans video because Lenny Breau spent many years studying Bill's work - maybe that's one of the reasons you connect with him. I shall see you back at The Parthenon.
@MrStrawberry86
@MrStrawberry86 2 ай бұрын
Loved this video you have a knack for putting things into words about things that feel like ive always thought or felt in some vague way but never heard anyone say them out loud before if that makes sense. I love the statement that great music requires a great listener thats so true. A few weeks ago I had the misfortune of having to interact with my manager at work. He was asking me what I'm up to etc trying to trick me into thinking we're mates having a chat etc. Anyway on this occasion I decided to tell him I was going to see a band called henge. He was like oh yeah you like music do you, I like that music I'm going to a gig soon actually. I was like oh ok cool who you seeing? He looked at me and said without any hint of irony he said Jane Mcdonald. I had to look up who she was, its legitimately one of the worst things ive ever heard a human say. Anyway I laughed and thought of this when you said Jane Mcdonald, some old hag off lose women
@joannalewis5279
@joannalewis5279 2 ай бұрын
Your best video by far
@BeatKasterG
@BeatKasterG 2 ай бұрын
Not just non-musicians getting these things wrong Andy!
@craigtodd8297
@craigtodd8297 2 ай бұрын
Haven't watched it yet but No1 for me is sight reading rhythm. It's not hard yet so beneficial.
@michaelantonyaustin
@michaelantonyaustin 2 ай бұрын
My partner is a non-musician but lives and loves music. We’ve been together for almost 25 years through thick and thin (as a working musician there have been plenty of ‘thin’ times), because she is always honest. She’ll tell be quite openly, honestly and bluntly if she thinks I’ve delivered a below par performance or written a shit song… maybe it’s because she’s German, but that’s why I love her! 😅
@MrStrawberry86
@MrStrawberry86 2 ай бұрын
A video where andy talks about nothing and it's all contentious I bloody live for this stuff at the moment let's go!!!!
@aminahmed2220
@aminahmed2220 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video have a great weekend Andy ❤😊
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@Bluepilled-c5t
@Bluepilled-c5t 2 ай бұрын
“You sound like a professional, you should go on X factor!”. Best line of the video. Made me laugh that one
@c.j.saxamamamia2828
@c.j.saxamamamia2828 19 күн бұрын
Cole porter always my favorite composer. Hard to beat as lyrics and music seamlessly in sync on his own. Clever, genius, disguised pushing the limits of profanity without being obtuse and in your face about it. Thats why virtuosos still play his tunes to this day
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 18 күн бұрын
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