my weight hovers between 170 - 175, I changed the rear spring to a 75 nm. I have zero clicks on the preload and the sag is exactly right, haven't done anything else but adjust the compression and rebound and it rides great on hard rocky trails. That being said, just rented and Aprilla 660 and it felt like I was cheating - such a plush ride. p.s - changing the rear spring is easy if you have a floor jack and 3 ratchet straps. run the straps through the top of the spring just below the retainer and through the bottom of the jack. Secure everything and pump the jack until the tension comes off the retainer. I did mine in abut 20 minutes
@advmatt2 ай бұрын
@@pinnacleroofing9841 that's a slick trick with the floor jack. The Tuareg has a lot going for it.
@jayhopkins13375 ай бұрын
Im also around 210lbs. And the spring kit seems to fixed all. I used little heavier oil up front also helped damping. Made my own spring compressor hardware about 35$
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
Nicely done. Good to get some additional feedback. Thanks.
@advswede5 ай бұрын
I changed my front and rear springs to K-tech last week. Very satisfied.
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
Nice, much more budget friendly than a full suspension, and it works for most.
@olliechristopher4675 ай бұрын
Right on Matt you did it right!! I rode my buddies T700 he purchased used from a desert racer. It was set up super stiff. Miserable to ride unless you are jumping it!! The direction you went is the smart one. I did basically the same as you with my Super Tenere. Got a straight rate shock spring and left the front alone (as it's already a progressive rate). Too many of the guys think they are better riders than what they are and need to spend big money on suspension upgrades. Happy Trails my man!!
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
Great experience to share here. Don't over do it, or the ride will still be bad, just the other end of the spectrum. Cheers.
@oldgreenbus5 ай бұрын
Great video! I struggled with removing rear shock.. scissor jack is key. Also, i dd spend about 2k on cartridges and shock upgrade and I agree with your recommendation to change only springs. Maybe add some xtra front fork oil to prevent bottoming in whoops
@leeinwis5 ай бұрын
Change the fork oil, might as well .
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing what you spent on your suspension and your experience.
@randoo4u3 ай бұрын
Great job and helpful info. I also replaced my rear spring with the rally raid 90 on my t7. I also weigh 210 and loaded down with all my camping gear and tools for the Trans America Trail I still am at max preload for proper sag but so much better than stock.
@advmatt3 ай бұрын
Thanks. The spring upgrade made a huge difference. Enjoy your ride.
@RodKrisBisdakMotovlog5 ай бұрын
Absolutely awesome video brother
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@patrick871005 ай бұрын
I, too, did the rally raid rear. I haven't figured out the settings for the rear. She stumbles, rough over washboard roads.
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
I kept the compression stiff and slowed down the rebound. I still don't have the forks where I want them.
@patrick871005 ай бұрын
@advmatt this is why I'm subscribed to your channel. Thanks for the response and info. Ill give it a try. . We just got back from Southern illinois. The washboard SUCKED.
@adaptableadventurerider5 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt brill information :)
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
Glad you found it useful.
@joshwatts6287Ай бұрын
Awesome video man thanks for sharing!
@advmattАй бұрын
@@joshwatts6287 thanks for the feedback.
@adriantompson3 ай бұрын
if you put more oil in this will improve them as well i run a 65mm air gap. or you can add oil through the breather screw try 15ml at a time and take it for a ride. make sure the front wheel is off the ground when you add fork oil and make sure you put the same in both legs.
@advmatt3 ай бұрын
Great tip, thanks for sharing.
@jasonanderson44327 күн бұрын
Wow no front fairing guards. I got the tusk bars and it already saved my bike once.
@advmatt7 күн бұрын
@@jasonanderson4432 good to know, thanks. I like the lower bars with bags. It creats a wide point kinds of like the boxer engine. The bags and handguards hit the ground first.
@charlescummings14845 ай бұрын
Looks great. Nobody every shows taking the cap off and how that goes with the spring pressure or putting it back on. How did that go removing the fork cap and re-installing?
@advmatt3 ай бұрын
Just saw your question. It was easy taking the cap on and off, but the spring rate I used was half of what most other riders use. If you go with the same fork springs I used it will thread right on.
@bruisedspartan4870Ай бұрын
Where did you get/how did you make that black screen underneath your windshield risers? Nevermind, I found the video.
@OneOldManRiding5 ай бұрын
I am more than a little frustrated, as somsone who has been upgrading suspension on Japanese bikes for a very long time, that we still need to spring bike for European / North American riders when they are sold in those markets. - Frank
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
It is pretty frustrating considering the forks and shocks are obtained through suppliers. Bikes headed to NA and European markets could have stiffer springs and not change anything in the cost. Just a different part number for our markets. Japanese bike manufacturers are falling behind. Not one of them offers a mid size adventure bike with cruise control. All of the European bikes have it, maybe as an option, but it's available. Reliable doesn't mean it's made to modern standards. Cheers.
@SashaV-ms7bd5 ай бұрын
The best Moto guy.
@kaischemionek3574Ай бұрын
Hey Matt,...nice and worthful vid. I´ve aolso changed "only " the springs in front and rear and I am with you,...it is absolutly perfect. But I´ve got another question...You´ve installed a cover above the headlights to close the hole when the screan is in top position. Is it handmade or aftermarket,...I´ve never seen it in Germany... would be great to have one best regards from good old germany,...Kai
@advmattАй бұрын
@@kaischemionek3574 thanks for the feedback. The cover under the windscreen is homemade. I can send you a template of mine that you can use to make your own. Send me an email to advmattx2@gmail.com and I will forward it to you. I can't send it until I get home a few weeks from now. Here is the video I did on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4OsgYqJp9yCrNE
@garyrourke32845 ай бұрын
Great information…..looking at your crashbar bags…what crashbars do you have
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
The crash bars are Hepco and Becker. Here is a the video I did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHnRmJeXo9SsnqMsi=EVi97ntV7P23IGLN
@rlovell3835 ай бұрын
Nice video man. Wondering what soft panniers those are, and do you like them?
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
I put together my own rackless setup. The bags are Rhinowalk 20 liter bags. Their ok, can't get warranty issue taken care off. Here is the video I did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jajGkJtprqp5n5Isi=AQrW5rNxlEmQG9TO
@rlovell3835 ай бұрын
@@advmatt Thanks! Hmm... Ok, maybe best to bite the bullet and go with Kriega
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
@@rlovell383 I am working on a second version of the DIY setup using the harness and 20 liter Wild Heart bags. These seem more durable. I can't bring myself to spend huge amounts on the Kriega and the like, but they are nice.
@BjornTA5 ай бұрын
Great video! Would you change the fork oil to a thicker one?
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
Yeah, after changing springs I think a heavier oil is worth it. Maybe 7.5wt. I think stock is 5wt.
@BjornTA5 ай бұрын
@@advmatt Great, thanks! Btw: I hope you'll keep the T7. Big fan of your channel. To-the-point and very helpful videos. Keep it up!
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
@@BjornTA thanks for the feedback. The T7 will be around. I have more content for it coming and another 1600+ mile trip coming up next week. Lots of comparison videos coming too.
@alexmoreno-oc5oeАй бұрын
Hi Buddy....how are You..... I have same weight as You......what type of front suspension did You install???? Wilbers or Yacugar??? Thanks
@advmattАй бұрын
@@alexmoreno-oc5oe I went with the Wilbers fork springs.
@frankm63792 ай бұрын
Could the fork springs be replaced while the forks are still installed on the bike? Seems like you’d just have to be very careful not to drop the guide into the fork after removing the cap, and you’d have to keep the front wheel off the ground the whole time. Crazy idea?
@advmatt2 ай бұрын
@@frankm6379 I think the handle bars will be in the way. If you move the handle bars you can do it but remove the wheels so you can move the fork leg up and down.
@pilyomotoride77814 ай бұрын
Would this be a good setup for touring? I'm 160lbs with side panniers and top box.We have very bad road conditions in the philippines 😆
@advmatt4 ай бұрын
It might feel a bit stiff for you but will definitely give you a sporty feel to the bike for you weight.
@frank_jk5 ай бұрын
How’s the new setup compared to stock suspension on that Tuareg?
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
I can't set the preload on the T7 fork without opening it up and adding spacers. The Tuareg has preload adjustments and the springs front and rear seem stiffer than the T7 after the upgrade. I was able to set proper preload in about 10 minutes on my new Tuareg. Picked it up yesterday. I need more time on the Tuareg but the starting point is way better.
@mattmiller66295 ай бұрын
How does it now compare to a stock Aprilia Toureg?
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
The T7 is still not there yet. I can't adjust preload on the T7 fork without opening it up and adding spacers. Tuareg has adjustments on the fork. The stock spring rates on the Tuareg seem stiffer. I was able to set preload quickly with only using a small amount of adjustment. Just picked up my Tuareg yesterday. The T7 feels much better but still behind the Tuareg.
@thodoris37905 ай бұрын
wait,the thing that everyone complains about the stock suspension of tenere,is that is soft?i m asking couse one i test rode(the rally version,the white one) and the suspenions was too firm.i was feeling even the small potholes on the asphalt.i m thinking to buy tenere,but also i m thinking transalp and tuareg.i am 178 high(5.9 i think) 87 killos.also the wind noise at that bike over 70mph,drived me crazy.i am not a hardocore off road rider,but i like tenere.but, i was a little dissaponted from my test ride.
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
The base Tenere 700 model has a really soft suspension. In the States we are not getting the Rally version. The Tuareg has a far superior suspension.
@thodoris37905 ай бұрын
@@advmatt which was nicer and more comfortable on road,tenere or tuareg?
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
@@thodoris3790 Tuareg. Cruise control for the win. Wind and weather protection is better too. I just purchased a Tuareg and it has blown me away. Riding is subjective though. My preference is the Tuareg.
@thodoris37905 ай бұрын
@@advmatt awesome.enjoy your new bike and we are waiting video.i ll try test ride it if one is available in my area,which i dont think so.the bigger hasitation i have about this bike,as most,is reliability.at least i have an official dealer 10 miles from home!
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
@@thodoris3790 I get the reliability issue. I will be honest about my experience.
@trevorjones44633 ай бұрын
Hi rear tyre what brand
@advmatt3 ай бұрын
Tusk 2track, here is my review kzbin.info/www/bejne/apzOlK2wZ89sjsUsi=L679JlLAftNzv6L5
@johnc77535 ай бұрын
How is the T7 after some miles compared to the 390?
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
I prefer the engine of the T7 but the 390 is more comfortable for long distance, after lots of mods. The ride is very different. I think to get the T7 to feel the way I want it, it will require as much mods as I made to the 390, which is a lot. The balance of the 390 is much better, especially offroad. It is hard to beat the 390.
@johnc77535 ай бұрын
@@advmatt appreciate it. I looked at both, and may still eventually do a T7. But the weight of the 390 was very significant to what I had plans for.
@advmatt5 ай бұрын
@@johnc7753 take a look at the Tuareg, if it's nearr by.