Why did the Paris Commune Fail? (Short Animated Documentary)

[@JTSingh-zs8vb]

France's list of enemies throughout history (in no particular order): 1. Germany 2. England 3. France

[@is_rel]

4.austria

[@nericarballo8941]

France should be higher up

[@paraparbd2772]

5. Ottomans (during WW1 and french revolutionary wars)

[@michellesheppard9253]

England would actually be number one. They had been enemies since Caesar took Gaulic legions and invaded Briton

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

6.Russia

[@vinicioimbriani3482]

"It's fine, they probably won't shoot back." is exactly what napoleon did when he returned to france

[@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876]

It work because he had the plot on his side

[@joesomebody3365]

He was Napoleon, the same rules don't apply. Ha ha

[@zaleost]

It also helped that a lot of the soldiers that were sent to stop him were the same ones that served under him during his first reign.

[@ecurewitz]

The French may not have shot back when Napoleon returned, but everyone else did

[@nathanielwilliams3891]

Which was a successful strategy for all of 100 days.

[@NotKnafo]

France is like an engine its efficiency measured in revolutions

[@vinito19]

Europe must be a car factory...

[@evankirkpatrick8741]

Several thousand revolutions take place in France every minute

[@El.Gatito.]

6(x1000) revolutions per minute

[@dominicguye8058]

😂😂😂

[@welshpete12]

Nice one ! :-)

[@Stormy_Boi]

"thrones are for winners" My God your humour in these videos never ceases to amaze me

[@beholdenpie]

It's not that funny

[@maxbuster1508]

"It's fine, they probably wonnt shoot back." I laughed so hard. THIS is why I watch

[@johnladuke6475]

I lost it a little for "socialists die when you kill them".

[@mikhailr2005]

Lol I ll shoot BACC

[@maximilianolimamoreira5002]

me too, specially when he says:" he got a mild case of dying".😹

[@WG55]

That was actually the strategy of some of the first Red Guard in 1917 against the Germans. They assumed that the German soldiers would find common cause with the Revolution and disobey their officers. It turns out that they were wrong.

[@nb2008nc]

It worked when the original Napoleon returned from Elba and retook the throne from Louis the 18th for a couple of months.

[@itjustjuan5148]

They didn't have enough Political Power and didn't finish the focuses that gave them buffs in time.

[@fryphillipj560]

Never start a war without having enough PiPi, never!

[@jeremiemarion3966]

They did but the bourgeoisie had the weapons, stabbed the french people in the back twice, first surrendering in a war they didn't want to fight in the first place, then killing thousands to make them pay since they decided to administer themselves. This is a thought that no ruler on the planet will ever let go without any violence : "Hey but i don't need those fuckers on top to administer myself with other people like me". Powers only hold because we believe in them, "this is a trick a shadow on the wall" like the spider would say in GoT.

[@Pan-be3vv]

Not enough peepee

[@TheAmericanPrometheus]

Obviously its because they weren't receiving enough funding from James Bisonette.

[@CrashXII]

@@TheAmericanPrometheus The James Bisonette lend-lease company ltd.

[@CirBam24]

I can imagine the Prussians just watching the battles between the republican and communists while sitting on sacks of cash and piles of gold

[@itjustjuan5148]

While also waiting for the rest that France promised.

[@josephforrester1892]

True capitalists

[@noobster4779]

If the "republicans" would have lost to the commune they would have immidiatly marched into paris and destroyed the commune again. But beause it appeared that the republic would win they let the french do the part of dealing with it. But I assure you the Germans (at this point germany was already founded) would have absolutely crushed them because they had 0 interest in having a leftwing extremist France at their border.

[@brandonlyon730]

And funny to think year's later the Germans would complain about having to do the same for the French when they were the losers in the war.

[@nobleman9393]

And drinking beer, eating sausages, and dancing in leather pants

[@Achillez098]

History: "What do you want? Revolution, or war with another nation?" France: "Yes."

[@allandnothing5338]

"Yes" was already the answer to the same question back in 1792...

[@luisandrade2254]

@@allandnothing5338 the far left never changes lol

[@arkan5000]

1917 russia Write that down!

[@greypartypolitics]

Right, interestingly Germany and the swedes picked war, never really picked either. China always chose revolution. Ottomans were too busy being filthy rich. Pretty much everyone else chooses both except interestingly during the medieval period, they always just choose war probably because disease killed enough people for most of them to ignore that natural human urge to get the neighbors you agree with to violently purge the neighbors you disagree with.

[@jackakakreanxx5587]

@@arkan5000”but change a few things”

[@declanfeeney7004]

Honestly finding out that the monarchists actually won the first elections and that France was originally gonna be a monarchy but after a while it just kinda stayed a Republic was the most fascinating thing I learned in this video. I think this deserves a separate video tbh

[@edmerc92]

That election was held under very particular circumstances: half the country was occupied by Prussia, and campaigning wasn't allowed. Also, the monarchists were divided between two different candidates for the throne.

[@rjd1922]

The National Assembly offered the throne to Henri, Comte de Chambord, but he would only take it if France replaced the tricolor with the old white banner, which proved impossible.

[@patrickjeffers7864]

​@@rjd1922the Orleanist heir who would've succeeded him, since he had no kids, accepted the tri color. Unfortunately, Henri lived too long and by the time he died, the French said no more monarchy

[@DefenderofFuture]

Paris Commune: "It's fine, they probably won't shoot back." Ron Howard: "They did."

[@Jimba93]

Welcome to this episode of "Commune de Paris' arrested development"

[@geoffreystill1038]

“It’s fine, they probably won’t shoot back” can easily be coupled with “yes we are outgunned and outnumbered, but we’ll just convince other poor people on the way to join us.”

[@wellwell5483]

To be honest, that is partially how Reds won in October Revolution

[@keikei2942]

@@wellwell5483 I mean the 2nd one worked for Mao

[@El.Gatito.]

No worries, we signed a non-agression pact with Germany, war won't come *-- Poland, at the 26th of August*

[@potatofuryy]

@@wellwell5483 USSR also thought that when invading Finland lol.

[@Skellington77]

"In and out 20 minute adventure" -- *German's at the start of WW1*

[@desirose69]

"It's fine. They probably won't shoot back." Spoiler: They shot back.

[@peterg76yt]

I'm imaging The Critical Drinker with "Nah, it'll be fine."

[@БогданРезнік]

But fan fact, NO.

[@johnfreije6439]

Would have been nice to know this before we marched.

[@stijnvdv2]

It's funny though that even going back in time, the lefties have a clear goal of destroying structures, but never what they ACTUALLY want to achieve. Today you see the same. Feminists were praised till roughly 5 years ago coz gotta defeat that evil patriarchy and then you began seeing manifestos on windows 'destroy and kill TERFS', because well, the trans activists came rising up (note, not the same as transsexuals) and all of the sudden the definition of the word 'woman' is in question. Also while BLM and Antifa had a similar goal of defeating Trump, when that's achieved, you now see them fighting among each other too coz even they slightly differ on the term 'anarchy' and apparently if you are black but you hold conservative values, you aren't black anymore according to marxist BLM.... (scratching my head on the logic but whatever). Same irrational luny things you see with woke people. Say that cancel culture is a 'conspiracy theory' until they all REEE and hashtag cancel this or that when someone tips even so much as a toe outside their own small rather dumb/uninformed/dull/predictable woke message that only gets more radical.

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

As a Military Tactician I can confirm that it is generally considered disadvantageous to be fighting a country that has twenty times as many people as yours and also entirely surrounds you.

[@christopher9727]

No hope in going to the past come to the loving savior today Seek his Holy Spirit in prayer today he can give you peace confort and guidance today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@pinecone3334]

So Lesotho declaring war on South Africa would be a bad idea?

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

@@pinecone3334they’re the exception

[@gladys2563]

​@@pinecone3334 Obviously they can win with right commandment

[@THEAvantFuturist1934]

Man, I didn't know that San Marino declaring war on Italy was a bad idea.

[@generalfeldmarschall3781]

How many historical events do you want? Versailles: yes

[@electrofan1796]

"Thrones are for winners" -Charlemagne, probably.

[@alanpennie8013]

The Pope said it first.

[@awkwardsean5141]

WIllie Nelson.

[@Zraknul]

"Thrones are for winners" - Gaius Julius Caesar, according to Brutus and a bunch of other Senators.

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

Make a Video about the worlds Reaction of Napoleon III being the French Emperor

[@Stuff_centeral]

Yes

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

@@Stuff_centeral I remember you not helping me against France, Russia, Austria and Sweden

[@lavaknight3682]

@@breaderikthegreat3224 King fight!

[@tyrannosaurusshrekx1320]

@@breaderikthegreat3224 HAHA

[@Stuff_centeral]

@@breaderikthegreat3224 i was to busy drinking tea

[@666Blaine]

When the Monarchist attacked, all of the separate groups in Paris divided up and went back to defend their own neighborhoods. This allowed them to be fought one at a time. Also Paris had recently been redesigned with wide boulevards that made it much easier to crush any rebellion. (This had been part of the reasoning behind the design).

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Well akshually there was someone in charge of organising a concerted defence, but he had zero military experience.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

That is such an oddly specific thing to plan your capital around and it definitely makes sense to be done by the French.

[@TheGalaxyWings]

@@Aceshot-uu7yx actually that's how us cities were designed in the first place

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

@@TheGalaxyWings then those engineers sucked because America rebelled anyways.

[@TheGalaxyWings]

@@Aceshot-uu7yx well, so did we in 1968

[@Darkred28]

"What are you gonna do? Shoot me?" - The Paris Commune

[@tulipalll]

Fun fact: Yes

[@Tespri]

Tells a lot about how naive communists are. No wonder all of their societies are total failures.

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

"What do you expect me to do, shoot him?" "Well, it wouldn't be a bad idea..." --GOODFELLAS

[@tomben6180]

@@Tespri Very true. Nutters the lot of them.

[@afdalridwan3813]

@@tomben6180 killing communes never so good as this before

[@terrypennington2519]

Gunter: Hans!! Hans: Ja? Gunter: Grab zhe popkorn! Zhe French are fighting zhemselves again.

[@Fireborn-o4v]

Hans:oh boy part zthree! I can't zwait!

[@johnfreije6439]

Love this channel. The humor, the animation, and the history lessons all come together perfectly.

[@TheGamerAtticus]

Idea for a video: *Why did Albania leave the Warsaw Pact?*

[@chrisigoeb]

More like: Why did Albania survive leaving the Warsaw pact

[@brandonlyon730]

Probably similar reasons to why Yugoslavia left the pact.

[@gameoflife9576]

@@chrisigoeb the soviets didn't care about us because we were small,irrelevant and friends with China.

[@Darkfawfulx]

@@chrisigoeb Yugoslavia was in the way.

[@cm275]

@@brandonlyon730 Yugoslavia never joined.

[@F22onblockland]

Commune: " We've taken Paris the heart of France" Everybody: "Ok what's next?" Commune: "I dunno I didn't think i'd get this far."

[@masterplokoon8803]

"Do I look like a guy with a plan?"

[@cruzcflores]

This is so absolutely accurate.

[@ragsy887]

Step 3 is profit

[@KWifler]

Sounds like me when I get a match on a dating app.

[@charly7937]

Apparently, the revolution was rushed. One of the members of the third international (communists) saw an opportunity and took it, while other members were against it.

[@BCrane-ej4iq]

*The Americas:* "Europe, my friend! What have you been up to this--?" *Europe:* "France again. Don't ask."

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

The USA wouldn't exist without France but cool story bro.

[@Jonsona2]

@@SirAntoniousBlock Where did this petty ass comment come from?

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

@@Jonsona2 This petty ass true comment. 😉

[@darthnerd4432]

@@Jonsona2 well he is right, but he is missing the point by several miles

[@Jonsona2]

@@SirAntoniousBlock how is that relevant though?

[@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598]

While the info presented here isn't wrong, I felt like adding a little nuance that's absent (which isn't surprising given the short length of the video) Hope this will interest at least someone. First, while social demands were part of the reason why the national guard revolted, the main reason was simply that they wanted to continue the war. Paris was still a massive city, heavily defended and they were convinced that they could hold back the Prussians long enough to raise new armies as reinforcements and push back against the Prussians. Hearing that the government wanted to surrender without a fight really didn't sit well with them. Now, could France have won the war had they gone with that plan ? It's doubtful. They had already taken massive losses in the east, but Paris was indeed able to hold a prolonged siege as the Commune actually proved. Regarding the way the government wanted the National guard to give up their weapons, it's a bit more complicated than just asking them, but just as stupid. The government leaders asked a bunch of generals to take over the city during the night and to seize the weapons while they were unguarded so the the guards had no choice but to accept their decision once they woke up. A pretty solid plan at this point, until you realize they didn't just plan of putting a bunch of armed soldiers in front of each armory to take them over, but to literally take away thousands of cannons and hundreds of thousands of rifles and bring them out of the city in a single night without anyone noticing. Yeah... Good luck with that. They woke up the entire town way before they could take hold of a single cannon and then tried the "Please, give them to us" strategy with the angry guards. It didn't work. By the way, French generals at the time were hilariously terrible, that's one of the main reasons why this war ended up in such a disaster. I might go into more detail on that topic if someone asks. Now, let's talk about the republic. While it's true that the empire fell apart almost immediately after Napoleon III's capture, I want to clarify that this republic was meant to simply be a very temporary government to be replaced with a monarchy as soon as possible and the Versaillais who fought the Commune were absolutely not republicans. Adolphe Thiers, the leader of the government and the one who crushed the Commune in blood was a monarchist at the time. Funnily enough, he later became a republicans when he realized just how incompetent the monarchists were (I might also go in more details on that if someone asks) and this 3rd republic which was supposed to last weeks at most ended up becoming the longest lasting of the French regimes after the Revolution, lasting until the annexation of France in 1940. Finally, I wanted to comment about the lack of leadership within the Commune. While there was no central figure who lead the whole movement and their were a lot of different ideas and ambitions among the insurgents, this was by design. The Commune was an anarchist government, although some Communards might have objected to this label. There wasn't any leader or any central government because there wasn't supposed to be one, the people were the ones who had to gather in assemblies and take the decisions together. And while there were disagreement, these people were able to organize and form a functioning society, especially given the fact they were besieged and in constant crisis. That's why they are so well-remembered even to this day. Now, you might argue that this organization wouldn't have worked in the long run and the Commune would have collapsed from the inside even if it had succeeded and that might be true, but internal divisions weren't the reason it got crushed. The main reason, which is briefly mentioned in this video, is the fact they failed to gather sympathizers outside of Paris. This is due to multiple reasons. The lack of a charismatic central figure and a clear form of governance might have been part of it indeed, but more important was that they basically couldn't communicate with the outside while during that time, the government started a massive propaganda campaign depicting them as dangerous terrorists aiming to destroy Christianity (which was a lie, although many Communard leaders were indeed atheists) and continue a bloody war against Prussia (which was true). Add to that the fact provinces had always been more conservative than Paris and were pretty tired of how they always had to adapt to the regime changes coming from revolutions in the capital and it wasn't hard to convince them to go in massive numbers and slaughter the Communards, which they did.

[@fandemusique4693]

Merci, c'était très intéressant à apprendre.

[@luisandrade2254]

Yeah I don’t exactly consider something like the commune a success story for anarchism but I guess that’s debatable

[@SethTheOrigin]

Destroying Christianity is literally the bedrock of Communism. I’m an atheist and a republican but apologising for the Commune is just silly. It was a loose organisation of people living under siege for two months. Nothing more. It’s only interest comes from the romantic fairy tale narrative that later Marxists wanted to be true about it.

[@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598]

@@SethTheOrigin Normally, I don't answer on old comments but I dislike stupid opinions professed with confidence. Let's take this point by point : 1) "Destroying Christianity is literally the bedrock of Communism" While Marx was famously opposed to organized religion and many communists shared this feeling, that's not universally the case and some branches of communism and socialism try to reconcile their political ideology with Christian doctrine. There is a whole bunch of people claiming that Jesus was actually a socialist. Also, the Commune wasn't a communist regime. There were communists within it, but they weren't a majority. And while Communards were pretty hostile to priests and some churches got requisitioned by force during the siege, there was no religious persecution under the Commune. So, no, the idea sold in newspaper at the time that Communards would kill priests, burn churches and were basically Satan worshipers was a lie. 2) "apologising for the Commune is just silly" What do you call "apologizing for the Commune" ? I clearly wrote that their government might have collapsed on its own in a few months even without outside interference. What I will say though, is that the reason it historically failed wasn't because of their mode of governance but because they were crushed by force. That's just a fact. That doesn't mean said mode of governance was good and would have worked otherwise. The Commune was successful while it lasted but two months at the scale of a city isn't enough to call it proof of anything. In term of governance, the Commune was an inconclusive experiment. What I will laud, though, is the courage of the people who rebelled and fought for a new system even when faced with an enemy way stronger than them. And the slaughter of many innocents when the city was retaken is worth remembering. There were certainly issues with the Commune, their militaristic nationalism being the first that comes to mind and I don't think it should be idolized, but it should be remembered. 3) "It was a loose organisation of people living under siege for two months. Nothing more." Wrong. Just... wrong. You cannot have done ANY research about the Commune and think that. Communards were, if nothing else, incredibly imaginative and ambitious. They experimented with so many ideas and policies it would take me hours to even summarize them. Now, as you said before, these ideas didn't stand the test of time, so we can't say for sure they were good ideas. In fact, some of them assuredly weren't. But the fact so many methods of collective organization sprouted in such a short time makes the period worth studying. 4) "It’s only interest comes from the romantic fairy tale narrative that later Marxists wanted to be true about it." I will concede that the Commune has been heavily romanticized by Marxists and other revolutionary movements later on, mostly because of it's tragic end. Now, while I have some sympathy for the ideas and ideals of the Commune, even if you don't and think they were all fools doomed to fail, that's fine by me. What I won't accept is people ignorantly rejecting the whole event as a pointless uprising which served no purpose and isn't worth thinking about. From an historical perspective, that is just plainly wrong.

[@Fe_lix]

​@@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598 While I generally like History Matters video I really feel this one is butchered and misses the point of the why and what of the Commune :(

[@tonyfriendly4409]

The AOE priest wololo'ing through the French Republican army turning them to communists was a nice touch.

[@Matejuss]

France: Viva La Commune! Also France: We hate the Commune!

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

Someone:Russia Was the first country with a communist Revolution France (Mr Revolution):Observe

[@charlesdegaulle6663]

@@breaderikthegreat3224 the Russians were amateurs compared to us

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

@@charlesdegaulle6663 Yet Alxender Was in Paris -Stalin

[@charlesdegaulle6663]

@@breaderikthegreat3224 we don't talk about that

[@datadavis]

Mostly France: Merde! Putain! Zut alors!!

[@piercepayumo4212]

France: *Attempts to start a communist revolution.* Also France: (wags finger) "Uh, uh, uh. No communism here."

[@charlesdegaulle6663]

We don't do that around there

[@mikhailr2005]

Ussr ?

[@drswag0076]

it wasn't called that in that time, just Marxism.

[@Paris-xv9sj]

It WASN'T COMUNIST AT ALL!

[@emib6599]

A documentary on TV said that that revolt didn't have any close relation with marxism/communist. They called it the first democratic republic by modern definition.

[@afterburnerfox]

They were given, to use a technical term, SQUAT This channels humor never fails

[@litkeys3497]

TO BE FAIR there was precedent for "the common soldiers will switch sides & join our revolutionary cause." It worked extraordinarily well for both Garibaldi & Napoleon, and defections were of vital importance later in the Russian Civil War

[@cruzcflores]

It worked for Napoleon because he had actually been their leader previously and been very popular. The Russian defections came after a long, unpopular war with the goal of overthrowing the unpopular leader. Napoleon III was already gone and been replaced by the third Republic, whose previous government wasn’t terribly popular with France outside of Paris but was still much, much, much more popular than the proposed return of the Jacobins aka the people who just walked through the countryside, grabbed random people and either shot them or tied them together and threw them in the nearest river without giving a shit about whether any of them were actual counter-revolutionaries.

[@edbrooke75]

The city people agreed with the socialist. But no one else did. Tends to be the case in modern times as well

[@cruzcflores]

@@edbrooke75 "Free bread" tends to be very popular with people who don't make bread and unpopular with people who's job it is to make bread.

[@henrygustavekrausse7459]

@@cruzcflores The state would have to buy the bread from someone and that could make certain breadmakers very happy.

[@praisekek181]

@@henrygustavekrausse7459 all the cost is one bullet

[@braydenlovetere4545]

I love how this channel always summarizes everything nicely at the end…really helps me take it in.

[@n.e.g.u.s]

I currently study law & will confirm that “fat stacks of cash” are indeed legal terms.

[@rainbowodysseybyjonlion]

And historically effective legal terms at that!

[@hkchan1339]

How about the term “squat” ?

[@JOESMITH-qs8ue]

As the ex?? lawyer Michael Avenatti will testify to.

[@756-p9f]

The workers declare the Paris commune: Ok now what?

[@AnimalioPahazalli]

Even though it was very short lived and chaotic it served the working class tremendously, they discovered a way to get the masses into power.

[@marzbanofmerv2324]

I don't know, I didn't expect to get this far.

[@shaycormac6850]

@@AnimalioPahazalli But it didn’t serve the working class at all, it only succeeded in getting workers killed in the name of Equality when in all reality just like all communist revolutions it only served those in power, had a leader had enough time to arise it would have become just another tyrant or party exploiting the very people they claim to be in support for, it’s why communism always fails because it starts out noble but gets Hijacked by power hungry tyrants, say what you want about America and the UK but at least they have safeguards to prevent tyrants from coming to power, communism is a breeding ground for dictators just like fascism, it takes a well set up democracy to give people the power!

[@treeman12815]

@@shaycormac6850 bruh you know there’s different types of communism right lmao not all are the authoritarian communists like the marxist leninsts lmao there’s demsocs socdems anarchists and more that hate authoritarianism lol

[@sylvali1046]

@@shaycormac6850 This dude thinking that the situation of France (where people had fought for their rights multiple times in less than a century) is the same as Russia (where people were used to authoritarian rule for centuries). Even in Russia, Lenin was hotly contested by other Communist factions and by the Anarchists, and if they were luckier, they could have made a far more democratic system.

[@JaydentheMathGuy]

I’m surprised we haven’t sold Paris to Kelly Moneymaker at this point.

[@ecurewitz]

she didn't want it

[@Ultimate77yt]

@@ecurewitz What about James bisonnete

[@ecurewitz]

@@Ultimate77yt he goes without saying

[@Elitist20]

Boogily Woogily and Scottish Trekkie may be interested.

[@pattonjeffrey6]

Either Kelly Moneymaker or Sky Chapelle, both have a solid case for acquisition

[@stooge_mobile]

2:56 I've been waiting years for an Age of Empires and History Matters crossover, and now I've been blessed. Thankyou, gracious and holy benefactor.

[@georgeamesfort3408]

Memories...

[@LOrco_]

The Germans outside the city were like: Yo, uhm, it's cool if you're communists now but could you, like, pay us?

[@alanpennie8013]

See also: Treaty of Brest Litovsk.

[@afdalridwan3813]

@@alanpennie8013 see also German after invasion of roman empire

[@Zraknul]

They said they would pay us. It would be inefficient to leave and then have to come back again later.

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Soviets in 1945 : Hello !!

[@CommanderTavos99]

2:58 now that just warmed my heart, good old age of empires reference :,)

[@georgeamesfort3408]

So happy he put that

[@mikhailr2005]

So happy 😀

[@WordoftheElderGods]

WOLO WOLO

[@heldersilvestre5729]

If it had the wololo it would be awesome!

[@georgeamesfort3408]

It converted me into a subscriber

[@-socialcredit]

French Commune: Has internal and ideological bickering which hampers their effective control and power Spanish Republicans: Write that down! Write that down!

[@cruzcflores]

At least the Spanish Republicans had the good sense to get outside support and actually fight a war. The Paris Commune was a lot of children pretending to be in charge, making pronouncements with no ability to act on them and bickering over who gets to be called what while actually armies were knocking down their door.

[@Oquasinus]

True that. Well, at least the Spanish revolutionaries held out against an actual military quasi spontaneously, pushing troops out of many cities and forming militias immediately. Gotta appreciate that direct action. It's a sad thing when there's constant backstabbery and intrigue back in Barcelona, with the war forgotten and the social relations reverting to pre-revolutionary ones. Say, have you read George Orwell's Homage to Catalonia (1938)?

[@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598]

I'll just copy-paste from another of my comments : I wanted to comment about the lack of leadership within the Commune. While there was no central figure who lead the whole movement and there were a lot of different ideas and ambitions among the insurgents, this was by design. The Commune was an anarchist government, although some Communards might have objected this label. There wasn't any leader or any central government because there wasn't supped to be one, the people were the ones who had to gather in assemblies and take the decisions together. And while there were disagreement, these people were able to organize and form a functioning society, especially given the fact they were besieged and in constant crisis. That's why they are so well-remembered even to this day. Now, you might argue that this organization wouldn't have worked in the long run and the Commune would have collapsed from the inside even if it had succeeded and that might be true, but internal divisions weren't the reason it got crushed. The main reason, which is briefly mentioned in this video, is the fact they failed to gather sympathizers outside of Paris. This is due to multiple reasons. The lack of a charismatic central figure and a clear form of governance might have been part of it indeed, but more important was that they basically couldn't communicate with the outside while during that time, the government started a massive propaganda campaign depicting them as dangerous terrorists aiming to destroy Christianity (which was a lie, although many Communard leaders were indeed atheists) and continue a bloody war against Prussia (which was true). Add to that the fact provinces had always been more conservative than Paris and were pretty tired of how they always had to adapt to the regime changes coming from revolutions in the capital and it wasn't hard to convince them to go in massive numbers and slaughter the Communards, which they did.

[@Oquasinus]

@@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598 Yes, I was saying something similar in another comment. The military situation and the conservativism of the provinces were major reasons for the collapse. Given a moderately less desperate situation, the communards would surely have figured out some stable organisation after a while of experiments, hopefully avoiding forming a new state in the process. And they should have taken control of the Bank of France :D At least in the Spanish Revolution there was the possibility of bringing in outside reinforcements/volunteers, an agricultural base and so on. But they were still alone, with the Fascists fighting them and the liberal democracies staying neutral, and the Soviet Union attempting to stifle the revolution that was not under their control. Also a massive propaganda war in practically all leftist newspapers on the continent, thousands of kilometers from the fighting.

[@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger]

Fuck it, let’s throw in the Free Zone of Chaz in there as well

[@idek6585]

3:03 "Fighting a war based on the premise of 'it's fine they probably wont shoot back' isnt the most sound strategy" Oh my, I never would have guessed

[@davidwuhrer6704]

It had worked before though.

[@idek6585]

@@davidwuhrer6704 True, even worked out for Napoleon when he went back to France

[@avhgptws]

One just has to love the reference to the Obama's medal meme at 1:31. I (and I know I speak for all of us here) enjoy your content, especially when you've got hidden gems like that!

[@HJ-bu6ks]

Oh my goodness. This channel is amazing. It should be compulsory viewing for everyone! Thank you !

[@AidenClaws]

This channel always gives thoughts we never thought but need to know

[@mysterious7215]

Same

[@boi1016]

Agree

[@loganfaucher]

*History Matters makes a post* Me: ah yes, *I M E D I A T E D O P A M I N E*

[@paraparbd2772]

Guten tag

[@Bloodlyshiva]

Why would dopamine need mediating? What's the dispute about?

[@hydorah]

There's a subtle thing History Matters is to be congratulated for. He sets out an historical situation and then, when introducing the point he will explore, he says, "Which raises the question". So many people (my boss at work, included) will, in a similar context, say "which begs the question" Which is actually a common misuse of the phrase. I really like to hear language used well. And the content is top notch too!

[@accessthemainframe4475]

"It's fine, they probably won't shoot back" - Benedict Arnold during the invasion of Canada

[@edipires15]

- Benito Mussolini just before the invasion of Greece

[@gidmichigan1765]

- Redcoats when they try to take guns away from the colonists.

[@joegalley2187]

-Garret Foster, BLM protest 2020

[@createtheaction5271]

I just wanna say, that you are one of my favorite channels on KZbin, thank you so much for the videos you put on KZbin

[@Oquasinus]

The Parisians also kinda stumbled into the revolution, and none of the various groups had enough of a plan (except for the Blanquists, but they were... Blanquists, and thus not really concerned with broad coalition building). In some areas, the communards were not revolutionary enough, I'd argue, but their downfall was really outside their control. Even with a unified front and effective leadership, such a big city cannot live without supplies from outside, and sallying out against 1870 artillery was bound to fail. And the rural areas around were leaning towards the monarchy in any case.

[@yarpen26]

Don't bother. I have long learned that trying to spawn some meaningful discussion on history on this channel is a lost cause. 99% of the audiences here are kids spouting the same played out memes over and over. It's enough to have a look just how many comments include quotation marks in them. It's insane.

[@Oquasinus]

@@yarpen26 Thanks for the hint! To be frank, I didn't expect to spawn a discussion in any case, only provide some additional context for people perusing the comments section. Given the humorous tone of the videos, meme comments are a given, and some are funny and original. I'd say: Better a memey but generally friendly comments section than lots of people fighting one another, as could be otherwise expected in history comments sections :)

[@alanpennie8013]

@@Oquasinus There were a number of provincial Communes (eg Lyon and Marseilles) but they were quickly suppressed).

[@Oquasinus]

@@alanpennie8013 Marseilles too? Cool, I'll research about that. I learned about the Lyon commune yesterday. These other ones are much more unknown outside France. There's not even an English Wikipedia article on it, even though the English Wiki covers other niche history topics fairly well.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Not having a leadership was the plan. It's fall was not a failure of domestic politics, it was a crirical existence failure after being steamrolled by a state military.

[@obliviouz]

1:36 - is that a reference to Molon Labe?! This channel is full of great surprises! (though to be fair, this reference on a history channel should not have been such a shock)

[@nunny5070]

3:46 probably the darkest scene ever from History Matters

[@friendlywobbly9903]

I've been waiting for this video forever. I even asked to do something on them! So happy!

[@Ben-ep1de]

With the puns that this channel makes, eg 0:24 , he will have the best dad jokes when he has kids.

[@LTFaust]

Fun fact: In Lithuania Klaipėda (Memel) there's a street called Paris commune (Paryžiaus komuna).

[@Jefrings]

In an alternate reality: Victorious Paris commune: Let's spread our revolutionary ideas throughout Europe! Europe: Aw sh**... here we go again...

[@davidwuhrer6704]

They had had a war specifically against the spread of those ideas, too.

[@ahouais5620]

Litteraly only Paris was faithful about the Commune It's a bit like nowadays, most french regions doesn't like Paris much while Paris is too often described as France

[@SpartiniMartini]

Them in the Spartan armor saying "come and take them" is so goood

[@alanpennie8013]

In Greek.

[@LEGATVS]

"It's fine, they probably won't shoot back." -Some dead French soldier, idk.

[@grondhero]

*France:* Can we have an everlasting Paris Commune? *History Matters:* Fun fact: No.

[@FireShadow75]

That's not a no. But it's the reasons why it didn't last, now that I have all reasons why it failed I can establish a communist world.

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

@@FireShadow75 How many bodies are you going to add to the already massive mountain of corpses this time?

[@FireShadow75]

@@maxxor-overworldhero6730 I don't know quite yet. I was thinking about 1/10000 of tte dead caused by the USA over the last 50 years.

[@ventu7907]

@@FireShadow75 those are rookie numbers. Left wing radicalism killed over 100million people over then world so you gotta increase the that number further

[@FireShadow75]

@@ventu7907 well where did you get that number and also do you kno how much dead capitalism or religion has killed through history ?

[@willharris4846]

3:17 “ to use a legal term, a fat stack of cash” haha had me dying

[@Blackstormeagle]

I can just imagine the Germans sitting outside Paris chilling on recliners and munching on popcorn while all this is going on "Herr Commander, should we do something about this?" *Bang bang bang* "Nein Hanz, we get free show until we get fat stacks of cash"

[@mikecronis]

Everyone's about James Bissonnette and Kelly Money-maker, but let's not forget Aaron the White!

[@daveirwin6903]

I still suspect something’s amiss in regards to the mysterious disappearance of Fill-To-Oink-Oink. But nobody dares to talk about it. /gets out my tin foil hat…

[@MuchWhittering]

There ain't no party like a Party Boycoe.

[@MichaelStaalOlsen]

‘They were given - to use a technical term - squat’. God, I love this

[@harrisonlee9585]

Good to see the codifying moment of the "to the barricades" trope.

[@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598]

Actually, that was more the 1832 revolt as it was depicted in Les Misérables which sought to bring an end to the July's monarchy regime. Or the 1848 revolution, which lead to the 2nd Republic and, ultimately, to Napoleon III taking over. There were a lot of revolts in Paris during that century. In fact, one of the reason the Commune did fail was because, under Napoleon III, large parts of Paris were destroyed and rebuilt with much larger, more open avenues specifically to prevent insurgents from building barricades and to help bring in cannons if needed.

[@dominicguye8058]

@@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598 the 1830 revolution was not in Le Mis

[@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598]

@@dominicguye8058 True, I got confused. Thanks for pointing it out, I corrected my comment. In my defense, it's been a while since I've read the book.

[@Zraknul]

@@dominicguye8058 "Beginning in 1815 and culminating in the 1832 June Rebellion in Paris, the novel..."

[@SamAronow]

Parisians: "Let us now convene our new municipal government, or as we call it in French 'commune.'" Marx: (busts through wall) "DID SOMEBODY SAY 'COMMUNE???'"

[@peterg76yt]

I'm picturing Karl Marx bursting through a wall like Kool-Aid Man and saying "Oh yeah!".

[@s.m.2523]

It was, as a matter of fact, one of Marx inspiration for communism.

[@alanpennie8013]

@@s.m.2523 I seem to remember how afterwards he wrote quite a few articles saying that everything would have worked out fine if only he'd been in charge.

[@Bibky]

@@alanpennie8013 This is actually quite ahistorical, Karl Marx made various critiques of the Paris Commune that I feel were true and even apply to modern leftist movements today. I don't think "if only he was in-charge" is a fair and unbiased claim to make about such writings.

[@Echani3007]

@@Bibky Someone finally said it perfectly, thank you!

[@miguelangelquintanillaapar5361]

0 dislikes, this is the true quality of the video. This is a relic in time. Til the bots come here.

[@tomrogue13]

1.6k to 4.

[@miguelangelquintanillaapar5361]

@@tomrogue13 well it lasted 5 minutes

[@James-un8io]

for some its always 0 dislikes youtube is testing a feature for some accounts where they won't show the number of dislikes happened to one account of mine

[@miguelangelquintanillaapar5361]

@@James-un8io yeah bad feature in my opinoon

[@James-un8io]

@@miguelangelquintanillaapar5361 I agree

[@hielehielehiele]

The wohlolo-priest is the most genius thing I've seen in your videos so far.

[@offtheroad9355]

I love the age of empire reference with the guy turning the soldiers to the other side. Its the most hated element of the game as the priest always takes my farmer while im out killing

[@turdferguson229]

I loved using that against the computer. In the Mongol campaign you attack the Persian Empire and they will send war elephants at you I would just keep converting them and after a while send a crap load of their own elephants back at them. Good times.

[@poneyenshort9616]

A good summary, but something important to not forget : the Paris Commune was not alone, it was the most important, but in all France, Communes in most major cities rose : Lyon, Marseilles, le Creusot, Narbonne, Besançon, etc...

[@auguststorm2037]

Yes, however most of those communes were quickly crushed and didn't last more than one days. Except one (Avignon? ) which lasted a couple of days

[@zzzss8326]

"Someone got offended so that means war" Sounds like twitter lmfao

[@felipegrijalva4094]

"Socialists die when you kill them" - Shirou Emiya has entered the chat

[@corneliuscapitalinus845]

I'ma put that on a t shirt

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Based

[@Wabu_227]

i never expected to see Shirou's name in a video like this lmao.

[@MasonGreenWeed]

"So it's seems" - General Soeharto before communist massacre

[@kicapanmanis1060]

@@Wabu_227 agreed

[@sethcordes7856]

1:05 the delivery on that is so perfect

[@comradespood165]

I'm so happy you made this video, it is a dream come true

[@wape1]

Treaty of Versailles in German: 𝟏) 𝕻𝖑𝖊𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖉𝖔𝖓'𝖙 𝖘𝖙𝖔𝖗𝖒 𝕻𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖘, 𝖜𝖊'𝖑𝖑 𝖕𝖆𝖞 𝖞𝖔𝖚. 𝟐) 𝖄𝖔𝖚 𝖈𝖆𝖓 𝖍𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕬𝖑𝖘𝖆𝖈𝖊-𝕷𝖔𝖗𝖗𝖆𝖎𝖓𝖊, 𝖜𝖊 𝖉𝖎𝖉𝖓'𝖙 𝖜𝖆𝖓𝖙 𝖎𝖙 𝖆𝖓𝖞𝖜𝖆𝖞. 𝟑) 𝖂𝖊 𝖗𝖊𝖈𝖔𝖌𝖓𝖎𝖟𝖊 𝖞𝖔𝖚'𝖗𝖊 𝖆𝖓 𝖊𝖒𝖕𝖎𝖗𝖊 𝖓𝖔𝖜, 𝖜𝖊'𝖗𝖊 𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝖎𝖒𝖕𝖗𝖊𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖉.

[@Reazzurro90]

"Thrones are for winners." Wise words.

[@nehukybis]

3:00 "It's fine they probably won't shoot back" It works sometimes. When Napoleon returned from Elba the troops sent to arrest him joined him instead, and something similar happened when hardliners in the Army tried to counter-coup the fall of the Soviet Union. Thing is, people remember blunders and massacres and tend to forget brilliant, bloodless victories.

[@looinrims]

Works about 1 in a million, besides the guys sent to arrest Napoleon weren’t randoms, they were people he knew and that knew him

[@josephcola9662]

2:57 I did NOT expect to see an Age of Empires reference. Kudos to you.

[@megrelianmage]

0:34 Bismarck with the single greatest act of trolling known to mankind - the Ems Telegram

[@emperortofu6731]

I always, wondered, how did the Imperial Japanese government react to the Japanese Internment Camps during the war. Could you do a video on that?

[@JanJansen985]

Given how the japanese treat anyone who leaves the country or isnt born there, they peobably didnt care

[@funnytrialman3112]

For anyone wondering what μωλον λαβέ means it's ancient Greek and means come and get them referring to the weapons Leonidas had with his 300 man army against persius

[@riffrff]

there were 300 spartans but the army was (reportedly) 7000 people. It's just less cool that way tho.

[@Fsast9707]

2:47 every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes

[@jackohare5428]

Right so I've just discovered your channel and whoops, subbed immediately. Keep it up!

[@andrewvoisine5607]

Your so close to a million subscribers keep going history matters

[@vietle1439]

Well come to think of it, Paris was besieged so the living condition was deteriorating quickly, which led to "rebellion". Meanwhile, other places in France was not so why bother to overthrow a government.

[@thebarber4397]

I have an idea for the next video: How and who decided the borders between the soviet republics?

[@olivierlarrieux8261]

Good idea !

[@davidwuhrer6704]

They were there before, they just kept them?

[@d3th2m3rikkka]

@@davidwuhrer6704 no. It was all part of the Russian empire and was split up to better represent different nationalities so they could have their own territory within the USSR.

[@KaiserFranzJosefI]

The borders of the Soviet Republics was decided by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR who alone had the power to manage all relations between the Republics, the same is true for Congress in the United States.

[@adrianvenegas8577]

Those “your mother” signs never get old! 😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

[@dracogaming13]

I think my favorite thing about these videos is how many times I can watch them I always notice something new.

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!!

[@BossVolt]

France: Has a Revolution and establishes the 3rd French Republic *6 seconds later...* Paris Commune: "Another one!"

[@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598]

Actually there was (surprisingly) no revolution leading the the 3rd Republic. In fact, it's a pretty funny story. After the battle of Sedan, the main French army had been defeated and the emperor had been captured. At this time, everyone was completely confused. Newspapers got the info by telegraph but didn't know much about the situation, they weren't even sure if he was still alive. They still reported on the emperor's capture, but that left a lot of question hanging. Who was in charge now ? Was France still at war ? Would the emperor be released ? Napoleon III had spent the last decade consolidating his power, so there was no one able to take the lead now that he wasn't around, so the deputies and ministers were just as lost. After reading the morning paper and learning about the situation, Parisians started to gather in front of the parliament and asked to be let in so that they could ask deputies what was going on. The guards at the entrance, who were just as lost and curious as as they were, just agreed and allowed them inside the building. Meanwhile, when the deputies heard that the doors were opened and people were coming in, thought this was a revolution just ran away. As a result, when the people who had (at least most of them) no intention to overthrow the government and just wanted to know what was going on, came in the room, they found it deserted. So they just stood there for a while, wondering what was going to happen now that the emperor and the deputies had all disappeared. It's not certain, but according to some sources, some random guy just started shouting "It's a republic !" and then everyone just kinda went with that and started repeating it. Anyway, this worked well for many politicians who wanted Napoleon gone so that they could reinstate the monarchy instead. They saw this as an opportunity to take control of this new regime, use it to sign peace, present themselves as the bringers of peace and use the resulting good will to install a new king. And that's basically what they did until that last step were they failed miserably.

[@paulbarbat1926]

But the other one bit the dust

[@aravindhanil7235]

What was Imperial Japan's reaction to the fall of Nazi Germany ?

[@scotandiamapping4549]

I like this one

[@Z10895]

They were allies...

[@CausticSpace]

@@Z10895 i don't know how you figured that one out, must've been so hard.

[@raptorfromthe6ix833]

they arrested any german embassy staff and condemned the surrender

[@aravindhanil7235]

@@raptorfromthe6ix833 Did they really ? Do you know why ?

[@JastwatchingYT]

Seems like most people are thinking that the French commune was communist but the truth is it's complicated. It could be considered communist considering that all the factories were shared but there really wasn't a system involved in the French commune. It was more of "we have nothing and are surrounded so let's do our best to survive". Sure the Parlament was made up of left leaning groups and anarchists but they didn't even denounce the claim that the factory owners had on the factories.

[@cruzcflores]

They didn’t actually “do” much of anything besides shoot a bunch of clergy and set the city on fire.

[@JastwatchingYT]

@KZbin Account for reference they didn't do anything with the national bank. They left it alone..

[@alanpennie8013]

@@JastwatchingYT The French actually invented communism (in The Conspiracy of The Equals) but it was never especially popular.

[@sethsturwold5551]

I like the spartan "come take them" reference

[@georgemakrov6174]

3:10 i can imagine the german representative there sarcasticaly saying "we can help you put this thing down you know" and the french representative annoyed but calmly saying "thanks but no 😒"

[@waflletoast11]

*History matter video ends* James Bissionette: "my time has come"

[@cgt3704]

0:43. Tehnically, it was an attempt to restore the french monarchy. But there was a problem. There two claimants. One was Charles X's grandson who was aledgedly king for a week in 1830. That Grandson, by the way was caled Henry (you tought i would say Louis didnt ya). Another was Louis Phiilpe's OWN grandson who also aldgedly, was made king in 1848. That grandson was called Phillipe if you care for a second. You might rightfully think this was the reason why the monarchy was never restored, but thats not the issue. You see both claimants made a deal that was suprising at the time. It was agree that Henry would become king. But since Henry was childless, and hence the senior line of the bourbon will be extinguish, Phillipe will be named heir. Thus, all the rights to the Boyrbon would pass to the Orleans Branch. Now you may ask what was the problem if everything was settled. Well, Henry wanted to be king badly, but he made a mistake. He demanded that France should change its tricolour flag with the white flag of the Restoration. This was unaceptable. Not because they wanted a flag to be further made ww2 surrender stereotypes, but because the current has been adopted as a national symbol, even for Henry's supporters. And so the Senate rejected the idea and the last chance for France to restore the monarchy. For now, if you dare.

[@TheresOnly1Stef]

I think I love the little dudes’ facial expressions more than the histories at this point 😩😂

[@YourVintageStick]

My first thought going into the video was, ‘Have I ever heard of the Paris Commune.’

[@Sandycheeks6699]

That subtle age of empires reference at 2:57 was beautiful

[@Kinlochbervie50]

"There's nothing more divisive than a call for Left Unity".

[@Xiphactinus]

CIAnarchists seething

[@Ma_Zhongying]

@@Xiphactinus Ah yes, the CIA, famous for hating the state.

[@Xiphactinus]

@@Ma_Zhongying nah, the joke is that anarchists were sometimes infiltrated by the CIA.

[@sterlingmorse5409]

And other communist groups aren’t?

[@johnblackman6523]

@@Xiphactinus "It's not my fault I'm retarded, the CIA is to blame"

[@senor6370]

Bismark, the man who invented the German empire and the third French republic.

[@freewal]

And the same man who destroyed the German empire by taking Alsace Lorraine

[@freewal]

@Meimme Wolf that’s a myth. I’m tired of reading this non sense. Read his correspondence to the French gouvernement. And even the internal Prussian exchanges.

[@emp437]

Lol 1:43 France looks like it’s been amputated without Elsass Lorraine

[@ghostsy]

Always enjoy all your vids ty :)

[@dsxa918]

I can't believe he says "now" in the third minute, elaborating on a point when a perfectly placed "well" with image could have fit

[@nobleman9393]

"You will regret your insolence, Revolutionary Dog!" - The French Government probably

[@derargent4692]

"Dog?! HAH! You will regret your arrogance Royalist snake!" -Some french ambassador

[@nobleman9393]

@@derargent4692 "Snake?! Hah!"

[@derargent4692]

"Look, I'm really sorry to interrupt this very interesting discussion, but really it's none of my business so I'll be on my way. Come on Baldrick"

[@nobleman9393]

@@derargent4692 "Not so Fast, English"

[@derargent4692]

"In attempting to rescue this err..brat le stinky weed, you are attempting to pervert revolutionary justice! Do you know what they do to people who do that?"