How Good Was Prime Roger Federer Actually?

[@danielhkhk7283]

Federer played the most beautiful tennis of all times.

[@vickoslavkovic2593]

Novak is GOAT.

[@inigoiraetau1903]

​@@vickoslavkovic2593the commenter's point still stands

[@memerf36]

true

[@felixklopper7940]

cant agree, most sucessfull for sure, but this doesnt make him the best of all time. The video pointed out clearly, that Federer prime is totally unmatched@@vickoslavkovic2593

[@paddycable1723]

Winning the most slams doesn’t make you the GOAT. Playing the most beautiful tennis ever is the mark of true greatness - Djokovic is a grafter but Federer was an artist.

[@silentrhymes7490]

If only Wimbledon 2019... most heartbreaking day

[@SDI1996]

I seriously miss watch Federer live. He won't go down as the goat, but he truly was the most gifted player the sport has ever seen and really was the Messi of the tennis world. People also forget that he's 5 and 6 years older than Rafa and Novak, so naturally peaked at a different time than them as he's a different generation. It would have been fascinating to see if they were all in their prime at the exact same time. I feel on clay Rafa would usually win, on the quicker surfaces Federer would usually win and on slower hard courts Novak would usually win. You really can't call yourself a proper tennis fan if you insult any of these three and try to downplay what they achieved and what they did for the sport.

[@TheseHoesAreLoyal]

A great comment. You're one of the very few tennis fans nowadays who actually appreciate and understand the game, not just a pathetic and toxic worshipper idolizing a certain tennis player. As a fellow tennis fan who used to be a ride-or-die fan of Federer and then admired Nadal's heavy topspin forehand and physical game for a few years and then lastly couldn't help but respect Novak's tenacity and grit starting in 2011, I came to fully appreciate a wide range or spectrum of playing styles as demonstrated by the big 3. And then also became a fan of Murray at one point as well.

[@LeftJoystick]

I don’t see why he wouldn’t go down as the goat - dude was playing people half a decade younger than him.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Prime Federer would easily smoke both Nadal (on all surfaces except clay) and Djokovic.

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

@@LeftJoystick Djokovic is playing now guys who are 16years younger than him, Djokovic is the goat.

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

@@StardustLegacyFighter prime Federer would not easily smoke Nadal nor Djokovic, in fact both would destroy Federer and since2011 federer is best 3rd player

[@Tommytoolsqueezer]

The problem with Federer, he had so much success on extremely fast courts between 2000-2008 and then everything slowed up. They even slowed Wimbledon up to give baseliners a chance.. Roger had to adapt his game.. using a smaller racquet size to a larger one, to help with longer rally’s. people forget his style was never based on playing 30 shot rally’s because of the era he started playing.. yet he adapted and won more slams.

[@michaelklos8089]

This actually isn't true. Courts were slowed before federer started winning. It's more likely he slowed down than the courts, which ended up having the same effect, the necessity for longer rallies in tougher games, making it harder to win the big games in his 30+ years

[@innosanto]

Fast courts were before Federer

[@echochamber1234]

@@innosanto its not a black/white thing. court's were gradually being slowed down in the 2000s. only in 2010 they stopped being slowed down for the most part (and in some cases started being sped up slightly).

[@fg92626]

Pure wishful thinking no fact supports that.

[@lchpdmq]

Was a weak era

[@nickelwindow538]

Roger made it look like a dance and choreography on the court! It was just natural talent and ability mixed with hard work!

[@brairr9966]

Roger is one of the most sincere human beings that grace this planet.....more men should look to his example of how to embrace life and treat other human beings.....May My Heavenly Father continue to bless him and all his family members

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

yeah like saying that you lost because of lucky shot, saying that novak is making up injuries, not standing up for underpaid lower ranked players,... most sincere human ever

[@slam5]

Amen to that!

[@pawshands9706]

The best ever. We will never see another player as complete and as naturally gifted as Roger. He literally invented shots that cannot be replicated.

[@prooftv1174]

Literally!!

[@borisstankovic2830]

Novak Đoković is the G.O.A.T. of tennis! 🟥🟦⬜

[@giladpachter4546]

*Naturally* gifted - unquestionably. complete - no. There's only one complete player.

[@marshaloga3047]

@@giladpachter4546 and who is that?

[@giladpachter4546]

@@marshaloga3047 Novak Djokovic! Sampras thinks so Agassi thinks so McEnroe thinks so Connors thinks so Roddick thinks so Backer thinks so Wilander thinks so Ivanišević thinks so Medvedev thinks so Zverev thinks so Tsitsipas thinks so Rublev thinks so The stats say so

[@robolson7669]

The fact that he dominated during the time while 2 other legitimate goat candidates were in their prime says it all. Rafa and Novak are going to go down as more accomplished, but it didn’t happen till Roger was on his way out. He will always be the goat to me.

[@ss90210]

Roger transcended tennis for so long and was so good he swept up slams between 2004-2007, with only Nadal being able to beat him consistently in this time frame

[@wren1114]

Wasn’t Fed in 2015 34, then Djokovic 28 yrs old. Don’t see why we compare in sports someone nearing their athletic physical decline w/someone in their prime especially in solo sports like tennis. That 6 yr age difference is alot at that point. If Fed was keeping up w/late 20s ND as well as he was I give him more credit. Just never hear much about that.

[@wimzswimz9843]

Before 30: 1)Sampras was 286 weeks 2) Federer 285 weeks 5) Djokovic: 223 weeks After 30: 1) Djokovic: 428 weeks 2) Federer: 310 weeks 3) Sampras: 286 weeks

[@mugbhary]

That still means we shouldnt be comparing PPL with 6 yrs difference . Rest of the field except Novak proved likewise . Novak is just a superior player or one-of-kind athelete .

[@FExpiate]

@@mugbhary Or he just benefitted from Roger being older and Nadal being injured? Do you think Novak at 36 would be beating Roger at 28 the way Roger was beating him? Never. Djokovic won finals vs nobodies, Ruud, Tsitsipas, Medvedev? C'mon Roger beat them easily at 38/39 lol

[@gcollins1992]

But the thing that people forget when saying that is that Nadal was managing to fight Roger off as a baby on Clay (19 at '05 French) and followed soon thereafter on Grass (22 at '08 Wimbledon) and Hard (23 at '09 Aussie). Don't misunderstand though -- Federer is my favorite of the three. It's just worth giving Nadal credit for putting up a fight against Roger all those years when no one else really could. If Rafa never emerged as the Clay GOAT, there wouldn't BE a GOAT conversation. There's a good chance he would've beaten Puerta in '05, and if that happened, he'd be looking at a Slam WIN streak extending from the '05 French until losing in the Semis at the '08 Australian. That loss would've been followed IMMEDIATELY by ANOTHER streak from the '08 French to his loss in the '09 US Open final. And I guess I'll also throw in that if there's no Federer, I'm not sure Nadal or Djokovic ever reach the same raw amount of skill. Roger beat the bricks off the tennis world for years, and there's no way that wasn't part of Nadal or Djokovic's motivation to improve.

[@JoeMulaparthi]

One of the ideal examples of talent being fully realized through hard work. There are obviously others like Zverev or Kyrgios who are just as, if not more, talented, but they have yet to realize their talent fully. If only the big 3 all hit their primes at the same time.

[@TravelPortugalBrasilTPB]

The best of all times 👍🎾🏆

[@thorhelm4055]

This aged poorly😅

[@rathauneek2953]

@@thorhelm4055not at all

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

He is to Tennis what MJ is to Basketball. He transcended the GOAT debate a long time ago, because what he did for Tennis can't be justified by stats alone.

[@michael8597]

That can only be the defence now, ignore stats. But in 2018 the narrative of Federer's f00l1sh fans were very different when Federer won 20. 😂😂😂😂

[@kweizi5712]

​@@michael8597 As a Federer fan, I have to admit he can't claim to be the goat. But I do still believe he is the greatest shotmaker the tennis world has witnessed. He wins by beating his opponents rather than his opponents losing the match to him.

[@ThiênPhúcHuỳnh-v6l]

@@kweizi5712 THE most beautiful tennis player of all time for sure. Not The GOAT tho.

[@xaoc1537]

uhhh… Im no mathematician but I dont think 310 weeks at number 1 is greater than 373 weeks at number 1

[@michaelv9878]

Top Notch Production quality, amazing video .... good edit Won't be surprised if this channel reaches 100K in few months ... Subscribed look forward to your work

[@Courtside_Tennis]

Fingers crossed!

[@fivos833]

Things Djokovic was better at: Return of serve Topspin backhand Things Federer was better at: 1st serve 2nd serve Slice Volleys Forehand Smashes Defence Offence Dropshot Improvisation What are we even comparing....

[@kweizi5712]

Stylistically, Federer is the complete all court player. He could hit winners from all parts of the court. Djokovic is obviously a baseliner He is, some will say, the best ever at defending and makes very few errors during the crucial pays off the match.

[@allainangcao28]

When a player is so good, his era gets referred to as weak because there were only two other people who could go toe to toe with him.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Exactly lol, and Nole legitimately dominated in a weaker era with slower courts, and when he won all his French Opens when Nadal was injured. There's no way he'd ever reach past 10 GS titles had he have been around much earlier.

[@dewman7477]

It’s the hypocrisy of 2004-2007 being weak era but not 2018-2023 that really irritates me. Literally similar level of competition in terms of contenders for slams

[@vaibhavsachan2527]

@@dewman7477 Difference is Novak won 5 slams out of his 12 beating big 3+Alcaraz from 2018-2023 while Fed could do only win 3 slams out of his 12 from 2003-2007. 🤭 He's lucky he even has 3 lol as Novak and Rafa weren't even going to face him in 2006 wimby and 2007 USO, they reached the final all thanks to the easiest draw possible they got.

[@Ben_Tennis]

your videos are amazing continue like this ! Have you took inspiration from nonstop sports?

[@downtherabbithole1353]

Interesting fact: Andy Roddick has 5-4 in his meetings with Novak Djokovic.

[@cameronsammons8709]

he also said his last match against him at the olympics in 2012 is one reason he retired lol

[@Shiljamannn]

Sure, that was before Novak's peak... Not much representative stat...

[@downtherabbithole1353]

@@Shiljamannn thats true

[@downtherabbithole1353]

@@cameronsammons8709 yes, i saw him tell Courier that in an interview, nice guy Jim Courier

[@lanapearce9968]

Djokovic fans will tell you he hadn't learned how to play tennis then because he lived in a bomb shelter until 2018, despite his rich parents never having any problems during the conflict and his being put into a tennis academy from age 5 and no bombs disturbing his tennis education. Plus his parents supported Milosovic and Putin.

[@RealisticAndTrue]

From 2004-2008 man was in his own universe, only guy that manage to put up resistance was Nadal on clay

[@wickedbeast3288]

Good videos man and you've got a good voice for it, just a small tip which is maybe a little nitpicky - might be worth proofreading your script/videos before you put them out, as there's quite a lot of spelling errors (like spelling Federer's name wrong), and sentences that are a bit mispronounced. Not a huge criticism, everything else is great :) keep up the good work mate

[@arkankruger1956]

Roger was unbelievable for sure. A great player, even though he has 2 less slams than Nadal I have him in 2nd ahead of rafa in the ATG list. For me 2 slams dont top no atp finals and weeks at 1, not to mention 14 of his 22 slams were won on 1 surface. Novak obviously soundly in 1st place.

[@ryan9099]

Rafa also has a big * beside his AO 2022 win that was won due to politics. Novak owns him in Australia and everyone knows it.

[@anseinueseima408]

@@ryan9099 two of Djokovic's RG are also fake due to Nadal's absence lol, if Federer had this kind of luck he would've won at least 3 RG

[@ryan9099]

@@anseinueseima408 There's an absolutely huge difference between a player being absent due to injury and a player being absent due to politics. First thing you're going to say here is "not really." Yes, really, absolutely 100% different.

[@anseinueseima408]

@@ryan9099 djokovic chose to not receive vaccine knowing that it will result in a ban

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

I agree a out atp finals and weeks at no1, but it doesnt matter whether you win a lot on 1. Rafa has completed the slam twice, beating Federer at Wimbledon, meanwhile Federer only did it once, never beaten Rafa at RG.

[@lszujo73]

watching Fed play tennis is a similar experience to listening the Blue Danube Waltz.....watching Nadal is like a Metallica concert....well Djokovic is like.....going to a laser show with disco music😁

[@TeddyBear-lb9ho]

He ruined a generation of players that wanted to hit like him but couldn't

[@Dman9fp]

I mean Hewitt, Safin, & Roddick had started hitting their stride before the real Fed arrived. But then, yeah he sure "ruined" their full potential legacies alright xD

[@Official.tadiwa]

Better than prime novak and prime nadal. Rogers prime was absolutely sickening

[@lsnakeaye]

Can you name some of the tennis greats who measured against Roger, during his prime?

[@pancake9939]

@@lsnakeaye they didn't register because he was way better than any of them. But Nadal was there however even Nadal could only beat him in 1 of the slams,

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

@@pancake9939thats actually false. During the period Federer dominated, besides Federer himself, a pre-prime Nadal, and a teenager Djokovic, Hewitt was the only one in his peers that can make 2 GS SF in the same year, and he did it only once in 2005. If you look at their losses at GS during these periods, out of all Federer peers, their biggest loss rate on each of them to Federer is 33%. Federer’s rival were losing before even getting s chance to play Federer at a GS. Teenagers were better than Federer’s rival at the time.

[@sidneymcdavid]

Excellent point

[@indiramichaelahealey5156]

He is the best ever, so complete, the GOAT.

[@jatters8696]

after Djokovic, a far more complete player, who is the real GOAT.

[@cchavezjr7]

@@jatters8696 Djokovic would have been the GOAT if he played in any other era. It took him way too long to establish himself due to Def/Nadal. Even the journalists were against him which really messed with his head.

[@jatters8696]

@@cchavezjr7 bro what are you on, Federer hasn’t beat djokovic in a GS in over a decade, & nadal only beats djokovic in clay

[@cchavezjr7]

@@jatters8696 Maybe try reading what I wrote instead of just replying to what you think I said.

[@prempititantipool3075]

@@cchavezjr7 Djokovic is still the better player at least statistically.

[@dadsfreetimeclassicgaming1220]

At some point I feel like you're putting in poor technique names so that people correct you in the comments. But fed don't have and extreme western grip and he doesn't hit backhand spin on his forehand. I teach tennis and you tube lines like these haunt me when I have to walk people back on them.

[@zardoz7900]

Yes as Federer was great Djokovic bested him but have in mind Federer is Swiss and by default supported by the Davos crowd which is why he is insanely rich.

[@paddycable1723]

Since Federer retired I have lost all interest in professional tennis.

[@fg92626]

Prime Roger Federer who defeated the 🐐in 2007 US Open was a very good player.

[@dewman7477]

I mean Novak was top 3 back then so clearly he was good enough

[@michael8597]

​@@dewman7477Teen with no experience 😂😂😂😂

[@vaibhavsachan2527]

@@dewman7477 more like he had easy draw to reach final

[@dewman7477]

@@vaibhavsachan2527 who?

[@vaibhavsachan2527]

@@dewman7477 Novak in 2007 USO, he faced 17th and 15th seed in QF and SF

[@laurencefell3922]

When watching him it's crazy think that there honestly is a good arguement that he is third best player of all time.

[@kalorakalora]

The highest peak ever bar none, that stretch from 04-07, he was virtually unbeatable except by Rafa. He literally lost like once or twice a season to anyone not named Rafa. But Djokovic is the goat cause his peak has lasted 12 freakin years somehow

[@mrhatman675]

Imagine this Djokovic facing 6 year younger Federer yeah Djokovic would have the same troubles if not more that Federer had with Djokovic later in his career

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

@@mrhatman675 djokovic is facing prime 21yo Alcaraz and still winning, Alcaraz when it is all said and done has higher peak than young Federer

[@mrhatman675]

@@miloraddjurdjic1695 Alcaraz just peaked earlier and has less competition Federer s peak is unmatched

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

@@mrhatman675 alcaraz would wipe the floor with federer and his weak 1h backhand. Federer needed years to enter his prime wirh no competition while alcaraz came out like a bull destroying medvedev,djokovic,sinner,... name me 5 good players in federer's era and no, sampras played just one match against federer

[@mrhatman675]

@@miloraddjurdjic1695 Alcaraz will surpass Djokovic no doubt but the big 3 peak years to alcaraz current form cannot be compared

[@chippen9421]

Federer is the greatest through all times together With Nadal.

[@l.rongardner2150]

Wrong! Djokovic has surpassed him in virtually everything.and every way. The statistics don't lie.

[@chippen9421]

@@l.rongardner2150 Surpassed Nadal? Stop smoking whatever you’re smoking and read what I wrote again. Thanks

[@marshaloga3047]

I am a federer fan too, I too believe he's the GOAT too, but I think he is not the GOAT coz his records have been surpassed like most slams by 2 people and most weeks no. 1. But he could have been a undisputed GOAT if: he had retired with 16 slams finally breaking through pete's record and would be revered as GOAT with most slams so no more records to break. he had retired with 17 slams in 2012 he would be revered as GOAT with most slams and also he ran through the unstoppable Novak in 2012. he had retired with 20 slams in 2018 he would be regarded as the GOAT with most slams and also the oldest player to win a slam. he converted the 40-15 in wimbledon 2019, he would be regarded as the GOAT not only with most slams but defeating the two top players who were 6 years younger than him and also the oldest man to win a slam. The fact that he is not called the GOAT any longer is that his records broke by two people when he was still on tour and that made some people look down on his records, but even non tennis fans know that most athletes in these kinds of sport retires at much early age. Sampras retired at 32, Agassi retired at 36, not to mention people who came after Roger federer have already been retired and some are struggling in challenger tournaments sad to say but player like verdasco is one of them, but in that age where people give up their pro life, he made a short work of the whole today's generation also Nadal and Novak, ya records wise Novak will be the undisputed GOAT but let's see how he plays when he's as the same age as Roger at the age to 38, coz the bar Roger rose is too high age wise standards also he got to QF of slam at nearly 41 years of age with an injured knee.

[@fg92626]

@@marshaloga3047 "also he got to QF of slam" And got bageled by Huby easily 🙂

[@michelewilliams4702]

@@chippen9421bro what are you smoking? Head 2 Head: Djokovic 30 > 29 Nadal Grand Slams: Djokovic 23 > 22 Nadal Master 1000: Djokovic 38 > 36 Nadal Weeks at N1: Djokovic 389 > 209 Nadal ATP Finals: Djokovic 6 > 0 Nadal Year End N1: Djokovic 7 > 5 Nadal Career Ratio W/L: Djokovic 83% > 82% Nadal W/L Ratio Surfaces: Djokovic over 80% on Grass, Hard and Clay > Nadal over 80% only in Clay. Total Victories in GS: Djokovic 347 > 315 Nadal Djokovic won all 9 M1000 > Nadal didn’t. Won 7/9 Djokovic won each M1000 twice or more > Nadal didn’t Djokovic won each GS at least 3 times > Nadal won each GS at least 2 times (with an asterisk though AO2022 they didn’t let Djokovic play. At the time Nadal had 1 AO and Djokovic 9 AO, so you know what would have happened if they let Djokovic play that one. Wouldn’t be “ at least 2 times” for Nadal). So, yes, Djokovic surpassed Nadal in everything.

[@javrami4883]

“I couldn’t agree less” *agrees*

[@UnwindyourMind247]

It’s simple really, prime fed beats any other prime version of other players hands down (bar Rafa on clay). Roger had a godlike serve, forehand, backhand, slice and game intelligence. Like the dude had every stat on max, you think of his nearest competition…everyone had a weakness that would eventually be found by playing against him, Rafa could beat him on clay with his sheer power as the ball slows down off the court and Novak + Murray could match him from the baseline, but no one in the history of the game will ever be as complete and poetic as this guy, you don’t realise how good he was until you see the people playing today and that they pale in comparison to his talent

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Facts, only delusional Nole fans keep ignoring this.

[@vaibhavsachan2527]

Did you said godlike BH?🤣🤢

[@troglodytesrus]

2001 - proof that Tim Henman is the GOAT

[@quentincrisp6933]

Why is Roger playing left handed at the beginning of your video??

[@lanapearce9968]

Prime Federer is the best tennis player we will ever see, number of slams won in a pathetic era will never define the goat argument, look at RF record between 2004 to 2007, he lost 24 matches and won 315 in 4 years, no player has ever come close to that dominance.he lost 24 matches, in 4 years!

[@giladpachter4546]

Sure, but the actual revealing numbers don't lie www.youtube.com/@goatkovic/videos

[@fg92626]

His main rivals were there : Gaston Gaudio, RodDick, Hewitt with 5 GS together 🙂

[@Blaisem]

2004-2007 was the most pathetic era though. The competition was trash.

[@edster0398]

It was a time of establishing who was who in men's tennis. Rafa and Federer both stepped up. But against someone who's won 22 grandslams in those years he won 11 grandslams whereas Rafa couldn't dominate yet. So he proved he was a cut above in this years.

[@vijayendranvijay457]

Not as pathetic as 2018-2023. Federer already 37 years old and after knee surgery/injury; Nadal past prime; Wawrinka, Del Potro and Murray injured. Other guys were still losing to old Federer and mid-30s Nadal and Djokovic. Those 3 guys would have beaten all the next gen.@@Blaisem

[@cloudchamois7004]

something about wimbledon 2019 just feels wrong

[@cloudchamois7004]

you mean you couldn't agree any more

[@sdccvideo1460]

Nice video but i have to ask, the multiple misspellings of Federer's name in a video about him? haha. Mistakes happen, just curious how that one was made in a video that seems otherwise so technically proficient and astute. seems like something someone who isn't getting enough sleep might do... ;)

[@ZATennisFan]

The question doesn't need to be asked.

[@EricRogstad]

At 11:25, you say "While some see him as the GOAT, I couldn't agree any less." Did you mean you couldn't agree *more*? "Couldn't agree less" means you don't agree. But the rest of the video makes it sound like you do agree!

[@fredba9246]

The best.

[@justincredible.]

Such a shame he is no longer the one with the most thropies.

[@Nathillien]

GOAT

[@SH1974]

How Good Was Prime Roger Federer Actually? As a huge Roger Federer fan I would answer the question (before watching the video) with a counter-question: How good must a player be, for standing 237 consecutive weeks at Nr.1 ranking? From February 2nd, 2004 to August 17th, 2008, that's a bit more than 4.5 Years! Some of his records have fallen meanwhile, but I guess that 237 week record will last for a very, very long time. Nole will probably not be able to hold his current position for another 4 consecutive Years.

[@al_kaufman]

7:05 winning his first major 8 years ago? Is the script done with AI?

[@paleopasha]

The whole script is super weird. It’s like it’s written by someone who isn’t a native speaker. And the way some people words are pronounced it’s like the narrator isn’t either despite the British accent. There is definitely something off even if it’s not AI.

[@MB-gd6be]

Club Fed : ) prime is a good argument over the Joker

[@Ozymandi_as]

The stats ar certainly impressive, but they don't capture the experience of watching him on court, where he always managed to be graceful and poised both in his shot-making and his general demeanour.

[@rickc661]

to me, If the recent ' Big 3 ' were all playing at their best, Dejok would win most of the time. best ever - can't say. I think for instance todays racquet And strings give a good 20 % improved play. I think Borg was actually faster than Nadal, just as good , even with wood rackets. maybe my ' what if' fave - P. Gonzales thou I only saw him a few times prob. in his late 30's +.

[@antoniomarine1567]

I would pick Roger over Novak. As the video shows - nobody had a peak like Federer. 4 1/2 years CONSECUTIVE at number one. And 11 GS wins in 4 years. Nobody comes close to that. Also, Novak barely has a winning record against him now - and he had the advantage of getting easy wins when Roger was well past his prime. Look at the last Wimbledon - that should have been Roger's win. He outplayed Novak in every statistic but one (see wiki). He outplayed Novak - period. A younger Federer would have closed out that match - but the fact is, sometimes the better player loses. Roger = GOAT for me.

[@vladimirmarkovic4947]

​​@@antoniomarine1567 Federer had 4-5 years to get starting advantage over Novak (and he got it)?

[@antoniomarine1567]

@@vladimirmarkovic4947 And Novak had the advantage of playing against an old and fading Roger. That's why you compare the peaks - and Roger's was better. :)

[@vladimirmarkovic4947]

@@antoniomarine1567 old and fading at 30 years old? Losing to asthmatic kid more and more often at 27? Maybe you have overestimated your guy.

[@antoniomarine1567]

@@vladimirmarkovic4947 Roger and Novak played against each other for 15 seasons. Novak had a winning H2H for 3 of those - the last three, when Roger was 37, 38, and 39 years old. Maybe you don't know what you're talking about?

[@topspin4hand]

Basic knowledge for Fedfans:) But great video nonetheless.

[@TheKDX7]

Go sleep little girl

[@elektrik_exekutioner6822]

Wimbledon 2001 wasn't his international debut...🤦‍♂️

[@dobricadjacic6583]

Ex beast of all the time😂

[@zboy2020vision]

Imo he is the most talented player ever but had a weak mental game sadly. If he had djokovics mental toughness I think he wins prob 30 slams the dude would consistently win 3/4 slams in his prime and make every final

[@HKashaf]

Even though Roger is my favorite player but to be fair Djokovic has best nearly all of Rogers record already.

[@michael8597]

Not nearly. He is much ahead of Federer.

[@HKashaf]

@@michael8597 but he is ahead.

[@michael8597]

@@HKashaf Federer is not even near Novak. He is the third wheel.

[@HKashaf]

@@michael8597 Federer is 5 years older than Jokic, he has battling Jokic and Rafay pretty most of his career, also was the first to get to 20 slams. I don’t think you know what you are taking about. When you are up and coming player it is expected that you are able to beat older players but it is extremely rare for 5 year older player in his 40s no less to be holding of up and coming stars for as long as Federer has.

[@michael8597]

@@HKashaf Well this age difference in tennis has been there across eras. Rosewall was 17 years. ahead of Connors; Connors was 9 years ahead of Mcenroe and 5 years ahead of Borg; Mcenroe was 6 years older than Lendl; Becker was 7 yrs older than Lendl; Sampras was 4-5 yrs older than Becker; Agassi was 11 yrs older than Federer etc. So it is frivolous to even bring it into discussion. Novak is 10 years older than Meddy; 9 yrs older than Zverev; 10 yrs older than Tstispas; 14 yrs older than Sinner and 16 yrs older than Alcaraz. LoL 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 And moreover Federer started playing well only when he was 35 because he managed to beat Nadal six times which he never did throughout his career. If not for it, the H2H would be 10-24.

[@satyamevjayte2443]

Grace......

[@realife1542]

The greatest to ever do it in his prime

[@ajsvys54321]

International debut, that too in Wimbledon 2001, in 4th round straight away 😂😂😂😂😂😂 was that supposed to be a joke

[@foolmetwice374]

He was the greatest ever in a classical, artistic sense of the game. Djokovic is the greatest ever in a mechanical, industrial, rote-force, cumulative output sense of the game. It just depends on what you consider the game of tennis to be: an artistic athletic expression or economic product.

[@cbdyna]

Styles aside, and ones preference, the numbers determine the best off all time. In all important categories, Novak is the undisputed greatest ever.

[@fg92626]

This guy was the victim of the 🐐 in ALL their Wimbledon finals 😎He was lucky to have only all time greats grandpa Agassi and young Nadal to compete between 2004-2007.

[@dewman7477]

You literally contradict yourself lol 😂 the irony my goodness

[@fg92626]

@@dewman7477 how high one should be to see a contradiction here?

[@milantubic229]

This is old news lol Did u heard for the great Novak Djokovic and 24? lol😊

[@dewman7477]

If you don’t want to watch this video then don’t watch this is about Federer

[@bazingacurta2567]

Amazingly good, but still not as good as prime Djokovic or as Nadal on clay.

[@kweizi5712]

What?! When is Phillipoussis a tennis 'legend'.

[@aleksandar4756]

The weak era GOAT

[@dewman7477]

lol only Federer has weak era in 2004-2007? Should I mention recent weak era since 2020 and finals opponent that Djokovic faced recently?

[@uhhmmm-g8c]

@@dewman7477 Yes, because Tstisipas, Ruud, Anderson, Kyrgios are all such hard opponents in GS finals

[@dewman7477]

@@uhhmmm-g8c exactly this OP is such a hypocrite

[@uhhmmm-g8c]

@@dewman7477 I also forgot Berretini

[@dewman7477]

@@uhhmmm-g8c exactly

[@chimpuchand2004]

Djokovic beat him in most tournaments 😂

[@dewman7477]

Then the H2h wouldn’t be close but it is though

[@vaibhavsachan2527]

@@dewman7477 27-23 is close?

[@FNAFBusters]

gold d roger prime rivaled white beard of course hes good😂😂

[@rebelranger]

For me what prevents Federer from being the goat is that his prime years happened when he didn't have much competition at the top. He won the majority of his grand slams in the gap years (2004-2007), after the decline of Samprass and Agassi, and before Nadal and Djokovic reached their peaks. Peak Nadal and peak Djokovic were both better than peak Federer.

[@vincenzofranchelli2201]

ok but he didnt

[@dewman7477]

Lol 😂 Agassi was old in 2004-2006 at 33/34 years old yet somehow it’s strong when Djokovic peak form beat 33/34 year old Federer at Wimbledon finals and at us open lol 😂 anything to justify Djokovic wins but not Federer. Even beating 20 year old Alcaraz is somehow stronger than Federer beating 20-21 year old Nadal who was better player than Alcaraz at the same age in terms of accomplishments and peak ability on clay and grass. The hypocrisy is unreal here

[@rebelranger]

@@dewman7477 Uhh no, you're cherry picking quite a bit. Djokovic beat Federer when he was 26 at the Australian Open in 2008, when he was 29 at the 2010 US Open and 2011 Australian Open, and 30 year old Federer at the 2011 US Open. In other words, Djokovic was beating prime Federer, long before he was 33/34. Also ,Federer still won 3 grand slams AFTER turning 33. Pete Sampras stopped playing when he was 31 and Agassi's last slam win was when he was 32. Hence Federer after 33 was a MUCH better player than both Sampras and Agassi. There's no hypocracy at all. You're just cherry picking and leaving out A LOT of context.

[@dewman7477]

@@rebelranger Agassi was a top 10 player in 2003-2005 and he won AO 2003 and made us open final 2005 and QF 2004 against prime Federer but somehow that’s weak competition a guy that won 8 slams in his career and many titles. Lol 😂 the hypocrisy to call 2003-2005 Agassi old but 2014-2020 Federer strong to justify Djokovic wins against Federer at Wimbledon finals but not Federer wins against Agassi at us open lol 😂 sure Djokovic beat prime Federer in 2008 and 2011 however my point is that Djokovic never faced peak or prime Federer at Wimbledon it’s same as Agassi facing 2004 and 2005 Federer at us open when they never met in Agassi prime at us open same logic. Lol 😂 Is Nadal 2005-2007 stronger than Alcaraz today? Absolutely it’s not debatable especially on clay and even on grass since peak Federer that Nadal had to go through at Wimbledon is more competitive than Alcaraz beating 36 year old Djokovic in Wimbledon final where we all know peak 20s Federer is better than mid 30s Djokovic at Wimbledon competition wise. The hypocrisy is to call 33-34 year old Agassi in 2004 and 2005 us open weak but not Federer in Wimbledon finals at the same age even 38 year old Federer in 2019 lol 😂 the logic contradicts everything Novak gets credit for beating Federer aged 33-38 in Wimbledon finals but Federer no credit for beating 33-34 year old top 10 and 8 grand slam winner Agassi at us open. Djokovic somehow gets credit for beating 20 year old Alcaraz at RG but somehow Federer gets no credit for beating Nadal at Wimbledon final 2006 and 2007 at the same age lol 😂 the hypocrisy here is unbelievable. Even the next gen like tsitsipas and medvedev and zverev gets more respect than prime Roddick and Safin where both those guys achieved more in their career than any of the next gen. The irony lol 😂 Weak era somehow only applies to Federer in 2004-2007 but not to Djokovic in 2018-2023 even 2015-2016 with worst version of Nadal and older out of prime Federer is significantly weaker than golden era 2008-2013

[@rebelranger]

@@dewman7477 Also, it's not hypocritical to call 2014-2020 Federer a better player than 2003-2005 Agassi. It's fact. After Agassi won the 2003 AO, which was before his 33rd birthday mind you and was early in the season before Federer had even won his first grand slam title, he only reached one grand slam final in 9 grand slam appearances, and didn't win another slam. Federer from 2014-2020 reached 7 grand slam finals including winning 3 grand slams. That's more grand slam finals in the latter stages of his career than Jim Courier reached in his entire career, and only 1 less grand slam title. In other words, Federer was still an all-time great in his later years alone. Agassi at best was just a top 10 player. Nadal also wasn't the same player from 2004-2007 as he was from 2008-2013. Nadal was just a rookie in 2004 and from 2005-2007 he was only winning the French Open on clay. He hadn't yet proven himself on hard and grass courts. Sure, going 5 sets at the Wimbledon finals in 2007 was good, but Andy Roddick also took Federer to 5 sets in the 2009 Wimbledon finals, and Roddick only won 1 grand slam his entire career.

[@Coa_Kralj_Coa_The_King]

Poor Roger and his fans needs to be extremely happy cause he passed 17GS when Novak get injured and needed to go for surgery… Otherwise he will never move from 17GS! Roger used Novak absence very well, to scratch 3more GS, before Novak comeback and continue to dominating the 🎾 tennis! Roger never won single GS after that! And 5 years before that! Novak is just to good for him!!!

[@dewman7477]

There’s no ifs about Federer winning in 2017 lol when it comes to Novak injury which is not the only reason he lost

[@cbdyna]

What do all the Prime Fed folks think about the real goat winning his 24th GS title today?

[@chrisf9156]

That Novak hasn't had a Nadal or another Novak challenge him in 7/9 of his last slams, except Alcaraz and the one year Daniil played out of his mind. ;p

[@cbdyna]

@@chrisf9156 Roger beat up on nobodies and young kids until joker wasnt a kid anymore. Alcaraz would destroy roger just like joker did.

[@chrisf9156]

@@cbdyna you are incredibly ignorant if you think that lmaooo. Novak is beating up on nobodies. How the hell does tsitsipas and kryigos get to slam finals 😂😂😂😂

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​@@cbdynaWhat an imbecile.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​Djokobitch has never destroyed out of prime Federer lol, not once has he even managed to bagel him. Whereas Federer has baggled Prime Djokobitch multiple times.

[@JK-fw3tb]

Calling nalbandian philippoussis legends is quite a stretch.

[@theaviator1152]

When you consider the fact that literally millions of tennis players have come and gone over the years with no success and they’re top 99.99% percentile, you start to criticize them a bit less. Food for thought.

[@westonmeyer3110]

Are you serious? Nalbandian defeated Federer, Djokovic AND Nadal in the same tournament.

[@JK-fw3tb]

@@westonmeyer3110 One Tournament rarely makes for a legend.

[@JK-fw3tb]

@TvRF Nalbandian prevented Nalbandian from becoming an all time great. If if if doesnt make you a legend.

[@Shiljamannn]

@@westonmeyer3110 He had high moments in his career, but that doesn't make him all time great lol...

[@davidhellewell4241]

Unplayable was prime fed

[@soumyaagarwal7852]

He was good enough to not be the goat

[@canski5646]

You can't be best ever when u were dominated overall in ur career in GS by novak and nadal...Fedsqaush only won 33% of his GS matches agaisnt novak and nadal. only winning 4 of 14 in GS finals agaisnt both..Never beating nadal at French , Losing to Djoki 3 times in a row at wimbledon finals on his supposed best surface and even had the crowds on his side too..can't be best ever when u won 10 less master titles than novak where in best of 3 u have to be even more consistent, have less GS titles than ur 2 rivals,..never winning all the Master titles

[@jeroenvermunt862]

Tennis is more than only about GS.

[@canski5646]

@@jeroenvermunt862 typical answer when the stats are not favoured..this is Sports not MR Popular which Fedsqaush was sold to armchair tennis players to sell lots of running shoes and watches..marketing machine sold those naive spectators..Maybe fed should enter a beauty contest

[@Ivanntu]

@@jeroenvermunt862 Federer fans were saying something completely different back in 2007 and 2008. They were claiming that H2H records were irrelevant and grand slams was the most important measurement.

[@innosanto]

Sampras didnt win anything that year. He had stopped training long time and had injuries. He stopped ttainjng in 1999.😊

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

so why even play then?

[@Čangrizavi_Cinik]

The most overhyped tennis personality ever.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

The most brain dead opinion on this comments section.

[@l.rongardner2150]

Better than the weak-era players - Marco Baghdatis, Fernando Gonzales, Andy Roddick, Lleyton Hewitt, Mark Philippoussis, old Andre Agassi - he beat to win slams.

[@mahalakshmid8613]

Weakest era players( year 2013 till date) raonic, anderson, dimitrov, ferrer, tsonga, monfils, berretini, berdyc, medvedev, zverev, shapolov, theim, tsitsipas, simon, gasquet , old federer- djoker and claydal beat to win slams. For their talent, these 2 can win only max 3-4 slams each

[@fg92626]

And Gasto Gauidio 🙂

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

@@mahalakshmid8613 you forgot 2 more names in that "weak" era, Nadal and now Alcaraz, every single one of them lost to the true GOAT, Djokovic.

[@dewman7477]

Agassi was old at 33/34 years old and Nadal was too young in 2004-2007 yet somehow Federer was not old in 33/34 to justify the difficulty of Novak wins against Federer in Wimbledon finals and Alcaraz somehow Djokovic beating 20 year old Alcaraz is somehow strong lol 😂 the hypocrisy here

[@kedrprao]

Change that thumbnail. Fed aint GOAT

[@belli7639]

This is video for sad Federer fans ... Name of video should be lets ignore reality shall we

[@michael8597]

This guy dominated the weakest era in tennis between 2003-2007 beating 4 unseeded players and an oldie on the verge of retirement. If he was really good, he should have continued his dominance after 2007 which he never did. He vultured slams in 2009 and 2017/2018 when his main rivals were injured. The GOAT in the background just doesn't fit him. He is just not qualified for it. Even his main rival, Roddick, who was his bunny, unequivocally has heralded Novak as the GOAT showing m1ddle finger to Federer

[@soresumakashi]

Awful video. Am I the only person who can tell that this script has been written by either a generative AI or someone who doesn't know anything about tennis or essay-writing? The entire video structure makes no sense.

[@Coa_Kralj_Coa_The_King]

Lol😂he was good against old veterans and poor competitors!!! Soonest Real treat show up, First Nadal, and then Novak, he was lost, going more and more 👎 down!!!

[@danielhkhk7283]

And now Novak goes down more and more. And in few years everyone will say that Alcaraz is the goat.

[@cbdyna]

@@danielhkhk7283 That comment didnt age well. 24-20. Wont bring up the other numbers. Alcaraz? Hes got a shot to be up there when all is said and done, he just needs to get better at pacing himself against the top players and stay healthy.

[@dewman7477]

@@cbdynanever say never people didn’t think Sampras or Federer could be overtaken so no arrogance

[@cbdyna]

@@dewman7477 Thanks for injecting a stawman and taking this conversation from reality into fantasyland. My comment had absolutley zero to do with whether or not someone eventually overtakes joker and perhaps you should direct the arrogance suggestion to the OP. Thanks.

[@Coa_Kralj_Coa_The_King]

@@danielhkhk7283😂😂😂😂 Novak going down, with all records in his pocket 🤔Only man in history with:24GS, Golden Mastersx2,8 years ended year like number 1, nearly 500 weeks like number 1, only player to win all 4GS at least 3 times, only man in open era to win non calendar GS, the most victory over top 10 players, the oldest number one ever, most GS victories ever…. etc etc!!! You made me laugh 😆 atty better!

[@bareshithbabu1499]

Who are we kidding...at this point, everyone knows Nole is the GOAT 🐐. But Roger is definitely up there with him

[@gotohellpunk]

He played in the weakest era of tennis 😂 his stats are overinflated and overrated

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

No, he made that era look weak because of how good he was. He faced off against guys like Roddick, who ppl don't respect, but easily forget that he has a winning H2H vs Djokobitch.

[@michael8597]

​​@@StardustLegacyFighterRoddick was 3-21 against Federer and you call this rivalry . Roddick mostly beat Novak as a teen.

[@mr.40-15]

You clown, Djokovic is the GOAT

[@TheKDX7]

Novak Djocovid the clown 😀😂

[@rogerfederer1865]

Federer's prime time is unbeatable except on clay against rafa. Anyway l can't see any djokovic exception.

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

@@rogerfederer1865 if you ask federer fans Federer peaked for 3 years and that is it, since 2011 he cant be compared to Djokovic who has peaked for 12 years unlike federer.

[@dewman7477]

⁠@@miloraddjurdjic1695 Djokovic also currently has weak era since 2020 like Federer 2004-2007. Djokovic is not even peaking he’s just benefitting from less competition than 10 years ago

[@miloraddjurdjic1695]

@@dewman7477 weak era since 2020 while having nadal,medvedev, saint Alcaraz, new god Sinner but it is not weakest era when alcaraz or others win, it is only the weakest when Djokovic win. Either Djokovic and Nadal are in the weakest era (which proves that Djokovic dominated Nadal) or it is now normal era while the weakest was when Federer peaked in 2004-2007, btw Federer also peaked in 2017 when Djokovic had surgery

[@svetlanaradosavljevic2328]

milka is the best chocolate, and rolex is the best watch and switzerland is a rich country, federer is the best right after ĐOKOVIC even though SERBIA is poor, it has TESLA AND ĐOKOVIC AND JOKIĆ AND

[@seveglider8406]

Federer is better than Nadal and Djokovic!

[@mahalakshmid8613]

Federer is so much greater than both nadal and djoker combined. To be very honest and very logical, prime federer is greater than nadal+djoker+sampras+agassi+borg+connors+lendl+becker+edberg+laver+mcenroe+all other players of past,present and far future

[@seveglider8406]

@@mahalakshmid8613 Federer isn't better than Borg or Laver!

[@uhhmmm-g8c]

I think it goes: 1. Djokovic 2. Federer 3. Nadal