this is how we survive when we don’t have a reed and the tenors leave their cases open
@Evanw102823 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@LaskyLabs3 жыл бұрын
I fucking knew it.
@lemau8458 Жыл бұрын
That's disgusting.
@kennethbuchanan9637 Жыл бұрын
@@lemau8458 I’m sure she means a fresh reed 🤣
@lemau8458 Жыл бұрын
@@kennethbuchanan9637 That would make much more sense.
@MarinaGarrison3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this for years. Bass clarinet reeds aren’t always in stock, whereas there are always tenor sax reeds. Plus the Java sound awesome on the bass clarinet for jazz!
@musical.meygan64123 жыл бұрын
They are a LIFESAVER for marching bass clarinet and not having a reed
@LaskyLabs3 жыл бұрын
You guys march bass clarinets too?
@musical.meygan64123 жыл бұрын
@@LaskyLabs yes, we have three bass clarinets in my marching band
@amariiharris26222 жыл бұрын
@@musical.meygan6412 same
@alyssaharford983 жыл бұрын
The candy jar of reeds in this video gives me life. That is really the goal in life.
@SaxSith6 ай бұрын
That’s your goal in life?! 😅
@shanebentley56303 жыл бұрын
as a doubling player for musical theater, I've definitely had to resort to swapping reeds between tenor sax and bass clarinet. I've even had good luck with my bari sax legere for contra-alto clarinet
@omgitsfirekiller3 жыл бұрын
Fr I do this alot
@AvGeekW1592 жыл бұрын
a few contra alto mouthpieces are designed to take bari reeds
@thomjacare3 жыл бұрын
I have used alto sax reeds on the alto clarinet, especially Legere.
@HypedGmng_3 жыл бұрын
Alto clarinet? Tfff is that
@dantetan42653 жыл бұрын
@@HypedGmng_ I think he just means Bb
@aldenvines58813 жыл бұрын
I've been using bass clarinet reeds on my alto clarinet.
@gavinolson9323 жыл бұрын
I actually use legere alto sax reeds on my alto clarinet as well
@KyleDavis3283 жыл бұрын
@@dantetan4265 no no no no no, alto clarinet is a clarinet in Eb a fifth below the Bb soprano, and the difference in size between a Bb clarinet reed and an Alto Sax reed is tremendous
@andrew42823 жыл бұрын
Eric Dolphy moment
@Vorpeum3 жыл бұрын
Alto sax reeds have worked wonders for me on my alto clarinet. In particular, I've had good results from Legere alto sax signatures - while I'm not the biggest fan of synthetics on my Bb, on alto the Legeres are amazing!
@eog50383 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Many years ago someone who ran a music shop in Salem, Oregon said that the "stuffy" sound of an alto clarinet could be overcome by using a plastic reed.
@nolanstewart67103 жыл бұрын
I actually do the opposite, I use my bass clarinet reeds on my tenor sax
@SomeGuyOnSax3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Lenny Pickett do that?
@dgclarinet3 жыл бұрын
Lenny Pickett and Javon Jackson both play bass clarinet reeds on tenor saxophone
@thelookingcat3 жыл бұрын
Dang
@majorfifthmusic3 жыл бұрын
SACRELIGIOUS
@LordFloofTM3 жыл бұрын
I’ve found D’Addario Reserve Bass Clarinet Reeds 3.0 have a great sound on Tenor Sax
@liamisafireplace3 жыл бұрын
I use bari reeds on contra alto clarinet! Works great for me
@garyhickam79703 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@VanAdriaanWilliams3 жыл бұрын
same here!
@eduardosergiosergio12383 жыл бұрын
Sim, também tenho essa experiência de palhetas de SaxBarítono no clarinete contra-alto: funcionam mesmo Bem!
@MiguelGuardiaMG3 жыл бұрын
I used to play Tenor sax with bari reeds
@coloraturaElise3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to hear you say that you play a higher strength on the traditional reeds than on the V12 or 21s, because for me, the Trads are always harder. I have to go down a half strength on the Trad, not up. My understanding is that the tip is thicker and less flexible on the Trads, though the blank is overall thinner than a V12 blank. btw, I also remember when you could tell tenor and bass reeds apart. I'm a doubler (clarinet primary), and use both bass and tenor reeds on bass, but never bass reeds on tenor! I use the green Javas on all my saxes except soprano, but since they are softer, I do have to go up a half or even a whole strength to get enough blowing resistance.
@shivan303 жыл бұрын
For me D'Addario Select Jazz Tenor reeds work very well on my B40 bass clarinet mouthpiece. I use 3 Hard or 3 Medium Hard
@huguesfardaoclarinettesolo72103 жыл бұрын
I play Alto clarinet and... I use Alto sax reeds : Légère Studio cut. With sax reeds we have so much choice, and it really works ! I tried several brands, some of them I prefer to Vandoren classic Alto clarinet reeds. I was very, very impressed by the Alexander Superial DC, found the Java Red powerful, the ZZ too stuffy, the La Voz easy but too much on medium frequencies, and Rico Hemke straight and even. And I finaly stay on Légère Studio, I also play Légère on Bb, European cut... wich were inspired by Soprano sax reeds...
@Braziliense1984 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a great test! I use a really open mouthpiece in my ALTO clarinet, and the Alto sax reeds are my absolute favorite
@rylanclarkson3296 Жыл бұрын
Alto sax and Alto clarinet also have interchangeable reeds a believe. At least alto sax reeds fit on the alto clarinet because that's what I do haha
@stevenrauch78013 жыл бұрын
Would love to see similar comparison with synthetic Bass and tenor sax reeds, esp. Légere European cut bass clari and their American cut tenor sax reeds
@richardcasey7521 Жыл бұрын
I have for many years used tenor sax reeds on bass clarinet, mostly because bass clarinet reeds weren’t always available.
@edwardsalkin9478 Жыл бұрын
Joe Allard played Rico regular tenor reeds under Toscanini. Who needs to know more than that?
@josequins90993 жыл бұрын
I loved every single one. But then, I think the bass clarinet is the best sounding instrument, full stop.
@danr18562 жыл бұрын
I double on bass clarinet as a tenor saxophonist and just use tenor sax reeds on bass clarinet
@kirin87353 жыл бұрын
Uhhh so I’ve done the opposite actually and find that Bass clarinet reeds work way better on tenor than actual tenor reeds for me. Try it out if you play both
@koolguy34043 жыл бұрын
When I was in college, my professor had me play bass clarinet for a semester. She recommended (Vandoren Blue Box, 3) tenor sax reeds since they have a little more backbone than the bass clarinet reeds. I tried BC reeds once, and never again. Tenor Sax reeds feel so much more hardy, hearty, and full.
@KevinKingII3 жыл бұрын
You should do the same thing with soprano sax reeds on Clarinet and see if it works.
@thomjacare3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that when Johnny Hodges played soprano sax, he used a clarinet reed.
@isaiahd99473 жыл бұрын
I've heard that they work but are not exactly the same
@_carrotfx3 жыл бұрын
my band director uses a Synthetic Soprano reed on a Clarinet
@Brendan-5930 Жыл бұрын
I’m a tenor saxophone and bass clarinet player
@KevinMin3 жыл бұрын
I used to play bass clarinet for concert band and tenor sax for marching band, and I pretty much used the same reed haha
@JillKnapp3 жыл бұрын
This was enormously helpful. Thanks so much!
@shakirajohnson19122 жыл бұрын
using tenor sax reeds help you get a sharper sound
@OMurchadha3 жыл бұрын
I often play bass clarinet in professional settings and use only Legere tenor reeds, as does a neighbor in the pit, a 40 year Broadway vet. They're just so much easier blowing than the Legere bass reeds. At any rate, thanks for the video. I actually really dug your sound on the green Java. It was a cannon!
@williamedmundson66263 жыл бұрын
Lol, last year, I auditioned for all state band on a 2.5 green java on bass clarinet, and I got in somehow.
@grahampelliott90903 жыл бұрын
I play on Marca American Vintage reeds. This is a tenor cut that is aimed at jazz/big band but works well on bass clarinet.
@ButteryAftertaste3 жыл бұрын
Tenor sax reeds are standard equipment for cheap sax players who double on bass clarinet!
@kingssingers3 жыл бұрын
My college bscl teacher tipped me off on using Rico Royal tenor sax reeds. HUGE difference in my playing!
@jazzbariman3 жыл бұрын
You should have included the Juno reeds. I got some early on when they first came out. I gave some sample to friends on mine to try. They ALL felt they were not a student reed, but played as well of better than the reeds you tried in this video. Vandoren is marketing them as a student reed, but they are worth a try. Give them a shot. You might have liked them better than the ones you tried in your video.
@Doc_Holaday3 жыл бұрын
I've used tenor sax reeds on bass clarinet and vice versa in a pinch. I also used alto clarinet reeds on my alto sax once. It works!
@djcallofduty24733 жыл бұрын
I exclusively play tenor reeds on my bass and I’ll never go back I’m also a tenor player tho so
@Tei_0223 жыл бұрын
Lol are they cheaper than bass ones too?
@dumbpunk11653 жыл бұрын
i played tenor sax for jazz band before i quit, and they were a life saver when concert season came around bc i didn't have to spent another 60$ for bass reeds
@DynamixWarePro3 жыл бұрын
While I haven't tried soprano sax reeds on Bb clarinet yet, I do currently use Legere Signature Bb clarinet reeds on my soprano sax. I tried it one day when I noticed the soprano sax reeds, Legere 2.25 Signature reeds I was using were a bit soft and the only harder reeds I had were the 2.5 Signature clarinet reeds. I tried them on my main mouthpiece, a Vandoren Optimum SL3 and they fit fine. They are a bit more narrow and longer than soprano sax reeds so I noticed some soprano sax mouthpieces, the window is slightly too wide to use clarinet reeds with. I have since tried Legere Signature 2.5 soprano sax reeds also. I noticed the low and high notes played a bit easier with a fuller, slightly darker tone overall than the same strength soprano sax reeds and the tuning is a bit better. I recently ordered Legere European Cut 2.5 reeds and want to try one on my soprano sax as I liked how the new Legere American Cut reeds respond on my alto sax, but they don't make any yet for soprano sax and the European cut is basically the same reed profile only narrower and longer as they are clarinet reeds. Seeing this, while I'll never switch to other reeds other than alto sax reeds on my alto sax, I may try bass clarinet reeds on it to see how they respond. I have tried tenor sax reeds on my alto sax before and I got a tone that was approaching a fatter tenor sax sound. Fuller sound, a bit louder, low notes came out easier and I found it easier to bend and scoop notes.
@jmwoods1903 жыл бұрын
As a fellow bass clarinettist who has tried all these reeds(except the V21 tenor), I concur most of the things you’ve observed except one- I’ve found that the Blue Box Tenor Sax reeds are a bit different from their bass clarinet counterparts, the former feeling somewhat thicker i.e. more wood at the heart as well as less focused than the latter. The bass ones seem more consistent too PS I find that the V16 runs 1/2 strength softer than the V12 e.g. a V16 #3 is the most comparable to a V12 #2.5
@jaspern.7702 Жыл бұрын
Totally off-topic, but Michael, those glasses are sick, where'd you get them?
@Haargeroya3 жыл бұрын
For the past 6 years I have used Tenor reeds on Bass Clarinet, and Bass Clarinet reeds on Tenor
@adriandelgado87093 жыл бұрын
I used to play bass clarinet reeds... some blue box vandorens... strength 3 in my tenor and I liked more how they felt on a tenor more than the reeds created for the instrument
@georgf92793 жыл бұрын
You go UP one half strength with traditionals? On Sax I always go down one half strength with traditionals. They are harder then any other make or model of reed. Also the theme running through all this: "they were all really different form one another". I have basically given up my search for good reeds for that reason.
@niko_mo73 жыл бұрын
I can imagine knocking on Michael’s door on halloween and receiving some jazz cut reeds from his “candy bowl” 😎 5:55
@marcusdickerson30162 ай бұрын
Could you review the new Dickerson Resonator Ligature for Bass clarinet for us?
@abedinsubashi3 жыл бұрын
Idk Why but for a while i used a Bari Sax reed on my Bass Clarinet. It actually sounded really good
@brianbillings68153 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I play D'Addario Jazz Select reeds on my saxophones and Vandoren V12 on my bass clarinet. When I tried I did notice a significant difference in width but it could have been that the D'Addario reeds were narrower in tenor sax than the Vandoren reeds.
@timdufka15483 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I have had great success with the Java Red, and no problems with it closing off at all on my setup which is a touch more open at 2.30mm than your "Vandoren B50" ;-) After watching the video I just ordered some V-16 to try out. Lately, I have also been using the D'Addario reserves which give a very resonant sound and have great consistency,
@austinw19273 жыл бұрын
THiS iS LiKe a 2 BY 4... Made me literally die laughing. I know that feeling exactly!
@shawnmones88233 жыл бұрын
get the boston sax shop tenor reeds. i use those for alto, tenor, bari and bass clarinet because every reed plays very similar
@taylor-tb9np3 жыл бұрын
i (and some of my bass clarinet friends) experienced some chirping on a blue box tenor sax reed on my b50 mouthpiece. i do interchange synthetic reeds on both instruments though and they work really well.
@daltom3 жыл бұрын
I was a “bass clarinet” player in Highschool and I mainly played soprano clarinet and tenor sax. I didn’t want to hand over the money for bass clarinet reeds so they worked perfectly ooay
@fierycarnisphere11663 жыл бұрын
Obligatory comment: you can also use clarinet reeds on soprano sax! It's the other direction, but it works surprisingly well.
@coloraturaElise3 жыл бұрын
The soprano sax mpc opening (window) is wider, which is why soprano sax reeds are wider than clarinet. Are your clarinet reeds wide enough to fit across the s sax window all the way?
@fierycarnisphere11663 жыл бұрын
@@coloraturaElise ymmv, I'm sure it depends on your mouthpiece. I found that the width difference wasn't that drastic.
@junyanwong60703 жыл бұрын
im curious to see your thoughts on legere synthetic reeds
@littlepizzaboi4449 Жыл бұрын
I've "borrowed" from our tenor player before for reeds when I was out
@aboveaveragebayleaf92162 жыл бұрын
if you look at a reed strength chart you'll see that 2.5 is not the same in all of the models. Some of those might have been better in a 3. For instance, I had a mouthpiece that worked well with 3 green and red java, but I had to use a 2.5 traditional to get a similar feel.
@bgclarinet3 жыл бұрын
D'Addario next? I do not like them on clarinet, but I can't make Vandorens work on bass for some reason.
@luna92003 жыл бұрын
Why do you usually play V12s instead of the regular blue box? What draws you away from the blue box? I know you said they surprised you when you did them just now and may go back, but what about them makes you hesitate, or what about the V12s do you prefer?
@kevinngo91383 жыл бұрын
I don't know what he thinks of them but I also play the exact same setup as he does, vandoeen B50 with V12 2.5 and the selmer privilege bass clarinet. Personally for me the V21 has a more intimate sweeter sound and the V12 have this big bulky sound and I like the big sound of The V12 overthe V21!
@francistaylor50973 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I normally play on the same bass set up as you, Michael. For tenor sax, I'm a red java 2.5 on a V16 mouthpiece. I bought V16 reeds for my sax and couldn't get on with them, so I'll definitely try them with my bass now. Cheers!
@francistaylor50973 жыл бұрын
Well, I've tested the V16s and they are brilliant on my B50 too. I started with them, then switched back to my regular V12s (which were fine). However, returning to the V16s was a revelation! Thanks for this video, Michael.
@mazzybananas3 жыл бұрын
I did this through highschool when I couldn't get bass clarinet reeds 😂
@super20dan2 ай бұрын
v16 plays about a 1/2 strength harder than the javas for me. i like the red box java on bass best of the 4 jazz reeds
@addisoncarpenter56753 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, can you suggest a good bass clarinet mouthpiece that is not too expensive?
@earspasm3 жыл бұрын
Vandoren B50 is great. And it’s very reasonably priced
@addisoncarpenter56753 жыл бұрын
@@earspasm Thanks, you got me inspired to play bass clarinet!
@Sirvalorsax3 жыл бұрын
Umm, did you really mean 5000Hz??? That is beyond the range of the piano. Lol 😆
@HugoMak3 жыл бұрын
He's referring to the entire harmonic spectrum (ie composition of the overtones)
@heaneymusic3 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this about 10 years ago, and even that recently, I recall the Vandoren traditional bass clarinet reeds having a shorter bark and longer heart/vamp than the tenor sax version. Interesting how this has changed… May have to to revisit it!
@J__Day Жыл бұрын
I was taught the clarinet by Herman Hansen who invented the Mitchell Lurie reed and when my HS band wanted to move me to bass clarinet, he told me to only use tenor sax reeds.
@PierreVeniot3 жыл бұрын
Frankly, since I play only jazz and pop music, I NEVER used a bass clarinet reed on my bass clarinet. ZZ is my favorite, since I use it also on my tenor.
@HighlandOwl005 Жыл бұрын
I’ve used Java Red and Java Green tenor sax reeds for marching bass clarinet and they worked well for me
@chody073 жыл бұрын
I have a advanced selmer bass clarinet, and it has a horrible sticky key problem that doesn’t go away. I’ve tried paper, everything. It’s on the D key and Register+ High Bb key
@benwoodgate5353 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, what is your take on reed strength? as in how hard do you go before it's too hard and how do you know? same goes for how soft etc... trying to find that space in between where it's just right is a nightmare for most of us mere mortals! a video on this topic would be really useful. Set ups, Soft vs Hard .
@lowreedman3 жыл бұрын
Is it strange that I also turn the instrument sideways and look at the neck/mouthpiece assembly when I am trying reeds and find one I like? LOL.
@joeg46Highlands2 жыл бұрын
Having an unbranded mouthpiece that was doorstop quality my teacher suggested I open the tip a little. It improved slightly. He then suggested that I extend the lay. The quality improved to "superior doorstop".. I then tried a baritone sax reed, first a Rico #2, then a Vandoren #3. It has come to life.. WARNING - never attempt to reface a mouthpiece that has any value whatsoever!!!
@rye_bread.3 жыл бұрын
I played clarinet for about 2 and a half (?) years and around a month ago, my band director switched me to bass clarinet. I love the bass so much but I have to play my normal clarinet for symphonic (if I make it in) and marching band. It's only been around a month and I am unable to play on my Bb clarinet without squeaking. You would probably say "oh that's not too big of a problem." But I can't play at all without squeaking. I'm too used to playing on the bass and whenever I try to play a note, it always comes out an octave (or more) higher, even when I am not pressing the register key and have the correct fingerings. Is there any tips you can give me to get used to my clarinet again?
@mal2ksc Жыл бұрын
While this usually works and is worth trying, there are some reeds that are cut quite differently by instrument. I have some of the old Fibracells, and the cut of the bass clarinet reed is thicker throughout except for the last 8 mm or so at the tip. It needs it, too, the tenor reeds blow shut much too easily. Conversely, the bass clarinet reed is rather squawky on tenor. If you have both instruments, there's certainly no harm in mixing and matching and seeing what happens. But the results won't always be good.
@garyhickam79703 жыл бұрын
Bari Sax reeds on Contra? OF COARSE
@zorniclepeanutbutter39943 жыл бұрын
Notification gang
@nick_cnc3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! As a tenor sax player you picked the same reed I picked for the same reason I picked it, mainly that mid range punch the other three seem to lack.
@Internetpilot3 жыл бұрын
I use artificial reeds (...pausing for admonishment...haha), but the same is true for at least Legere reeds -- if you're willing to go with tenor sax reeds, you get a couple more cut options. I haven't found one that I like more than bass clarinet classic reed, but I have had legit issues with finding the bass clarinet classic reed in the strength I prefer in stock, so it's nice to have the option for using the tenor sax classic reed.
@kevindeibert33693 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Funny, I use bass clarinet reeds on Tenor Sax, a Rico (now Daddario) Reserve Classic #2. I also use these on Bass Clarinet
@georgf92793 жыл бұрын
Does this work for German bass clarinet? I'm not sure because I don't play it but I think they still have a shorter wider reed. Anyone with experience here?
@majorfifthmusic3 жыл бұрын
It's likely my set-up (and my face), but I cannot get bass clarinet reeds to ever sound as good as my Vandoren Tenor ZZ!!!
@LaskyLabs3 жыл бұрын
They know our secrets! That's why we keep running out of reeds!
@beverlypancoast61893 жыл бұрын
I have played on tenor sax reeds for years. Back when I was in high school the quality of the tenor sax vs bass clarinet reeds was vastly different. A lot of times if I needed reeds in my small town, I could only get Rico and Rico Royal be reeds... tenor sax reeds had way more choices.
@AMTunLimited2 жыл бұрын
I've done this before. It was a community band, I was borrowing the bass clarinet from the local college. I was told there were unopened reeds in the case, but the must have been purloined. In any case, one of the other members had his tenor sax in his car, and the rest is history. It was a completely unfamiliar instrument, but I never noticed a difference
@charlotte-jq8wu3 жыл бұрын
Which saxophone do you think is the best for a musician switching from the clarinet? I played the clarinet back in high school and I would like to learn a new woodwind instrument
@maximilian.maksutovic3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh!! Max/MSP shirt! Great video as always! Legere reed video next??
@cadenreinhart37793 жыл бұрын
Oooh, been here, done this (kinda). At an honor band my junior year, I played contrabass on a bari sax reed.
@m.makikjr3 жыл бұрын
Had to borrow a friend’s tenor sax reed once for a concert... I left all of my bass clarinet reeds in another case
@tonyrettig10523 жыл бұрын
I use the Java Green 3.5’s with a Vandoren B45. I love it.
@braxenb62513 жыл бұрын
when i sued used to play bass, i had to use tenor reeds!! at least i only play Bb now
@lowheadvarney1583 жыл бұрын
Yay I was here before this blew up!!!!
@michealbowman56973 жыл бұрын
From my personal experience, I like the tenor jazz reeds when I'm looking for a softer sound to just relax and practice with. But after trying a box of pretty much every bass clarinet reeds (and some tenor reeds) I've found that the rigotti gold bass clarinet reeds are 100% worth trying. They just have everything they I want out of a reed. Perfect resistance, full bodied sound, good projection, and the most consistent throughout the whole box. And the come in boxes of 10, for equal to or less than I pay for a box of 5 vandoren reeds. This is all from my personal experience. I hope somebody reads this and can find it helpful if you're looking for new reeds.
@timdufka15483 жыл бұрын
How do you find that the Rigotti strengths relate to VD? Which Rigotti Gold 2.5 would be the same as a V-12 2.5 in your experience; soft, medium, or hard?
@SomeGuyOnSax3 жыл бұрын
I don't like the Z's on any of my saxes.
@JazzSaxUT3 жыл бұрын
Yep, did that all through college.
@Cħris2 жыл бұрын
To me the tenor sax reed sounds a little bit nicer in the higher notes
@Garrett_paul093 жыл бұрын
what is your main instrument
@Scarburon3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, why can't I get the subtitles on your videos? Do you know it?
@zerodeaths23433 жыл бұрын
do you do private lessons. if so where can i sign up?
@earspasm3 жыл бұрын
Yep, contact me through earspasm.com/contact
@davidbissell35653 жыл бұрын
Part two with a reed gauge taking measurements on the tip and vamp taper on the classical reeds, tenor vs bass?
@earspasm3 жыл бұрын
Too much effort :)
@estevansolorio52373 жыл бұрын
Flavors lol
@puppychan57973 жыл бұрын
Can bari sax reeds work for a contrabass clarinet????
@Cħris2 жыл бұрын
Probably for contra alto because baritone sax is the contra alto member of the sax family