Terry Goodkind Breaks My Brain!🍷🦴 ( First & Last )

Let's First and Last Debt and Bones by Terry Goodkind!
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[@DanielGreeneReviews]

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[@mndrew1]

Old, old classic sci-fi maybe? E.E. Smith? Or maybe one of Jordan's Conan books?

[@breezaholic]

At this point I need every Sword of Truth novel "First and Lasted". But also with herbal refreshments....

[@atrophiedup2myeyes]

Omg please do Lightlark next 😂 or maybe something Dark Academia. Loving you and Kayla's interactions in this series.

[@joshuatempleton9556]

mortal instruments or twilight series.

[@JoelFeila]

Dune

[@ManCarryingThing]

Never have i been so honored to have a video of mine compared to the the work of Terry Goodkind. An honor.

[@tacoblude8208]

omg PersonHoldingItem

[@GabePauleyV.P]

omg it’s PersonInphysicalpossessionofItem!

[@taylorlovesbooks94]

I was listening to this video at work. I got an ‘ad’ right as Daniel said, “She is gonna ask the wizard…” The ad started with “Can I have a tampon?” And I really thought that was part of the video. I was so confused until I looked at the screen. 😂

[@folkertdejong6974]

Same!!!

[@TomDaBombadil1]

😂😂😂

[@Thenoobestgirl]

LMAOOOO

[@thebigshep]

My dad isn't a weird Ayn Rand stan like Goodkind at all but for some reason Goodkind's books are his favorite books of all time, just barely inching out his adoration for Tolkien's books, and the more I understand about Goodkind, the more I don't understand my dad

[@CurieBohr]

Ayn Rand influence is only in a couple of the books and it was handled well. It’s not like when Stephen king has characters literally crying about Trump lol

[@newsavefile]

@@CurieBohr i know some people who literally cried when Trump was elected.

[@timpeterjensen2364]

@@CurieBohr I read about 5-7 i think, of the Goodkind books a while back (over a decade) and i thought the Ayn Rand influence was horrible and obvious, but im also not from the US, i dont know if that makes a difference, some of the things i hated, might just be normal US rightwing culture tropes, and not neccesarily Ayn Rand.

[@newsavefile]

​@@timpeterjensen2364the US isn't some far right dystopia.

[@DmGray]

Hard disagree on it being handled well. Pillars of Creation was filled with objectivist lectures, Naked Empire was "communism bad" idiocy and the man can not STOP himself from evangelising in his later books. (and Soul of Fire is basically "direct democracy is bad & people who don't believe whatever an objectivist tells them deserve to be exploited") That said, the series as a whole is still pretty great. Likeable characters, identifiable cultures, decent political intrigue and good action. It's JUST the overt political rhetoric that REALLY hurts the series. Unless you buy that bs, then he's preaching to the choir and you happen to be an alter boy :P Your dad can simply look past the politics to the humanity underneath. And believe it or not, libertarians aren't evil. They have some strange ideas about humanity, but they're EVERY BIT as utopian as any dyed in the wool communist. There really is plenty to like. (Pillars is the worst book in the series, for instance, BUT it introduces one of my favourite characters and an interesting, if repetitive, antagonist. It's the ONLY book I've ever skimmed entire pages on a first read bc they were SO intensely boring and obviously author editorial rather than fiction. If it were half the length, and it's already a fairly short book for Goodkind, it would ACTUALLY be good) I'd actually compare Goodkind to Atwood, myself. Competent writers who appeal to an ideological crowd and take themselves FAR too seriously... but they're still worth investing some time into. I still name half of my gaming characters after characters the man created. So I am actually a fan. But anyone that denies the issues with his writing it kinda weird. (which I write in full irony as I hate when people say that about Jordan. Mostly bc in that case I think they're deranged and talking nonsense. I think it's fair to say Goodkind was extremely political and objectivism remains controversial. What people say about Jordan is toxic) @@CurieBohr

[@noahjohnson5603]

I wish I felt as confident in anything I did as Terry Goodkind was about his writing.

[@MagusMarquillin]

But then you run the risk of people saying, "sorry, but just on this one subject, you're suddenly a bigoted arse". Confidence ain't always great when your stuck in the Dunning Krugger effect.

[@azlanadil3646]

@@MagusMarquillin Do you know what the dunning Kruger effect is? Because I don’t think you do.

[@MagusMarquillin]

@@azlanadil3646 I'm not sure you're as cunning as you think, or there's a extra layer here - but I did misspell Kruger if that's your point.

[@mischarowe]

@@azlanadil3646 The dunning Kruger effect can explain why Goodkind thinks his books are good but it doesn't explain your comment.

[@Deimnos]

@@mischarowe actually might explain quite well his comment.. he doesn't know what the Dunning Kruger effect is, but he thinks he does

[@danrobbins2359]

Oh god. Did you say " their breastplates were chain mail". That's like saying their cars were motorcycles. Their swords were rubber chickens.

[@YoshLovesYou]

Only the most superior breastplates are made of chain mail of course

[@Seb_Falkor]

Hey, their swords being rubber chickens isn't too far fetched.. as long as your in Gielinor

[@stinkymart3173]

"If my grandmother had wheels she would be a bike"

[@andrewparsons2391]

Those were no Rubber Chickens. Those were Rubber Evil Incarnate.

[@robbomegavlkafenryka6158]

“Their pants were skirts” or “Their shirts were capes”

[@alexross1816]

The most underacknowledged sin of Terry Goodkind is forever tarnishing authors named Terry with swords in his book title. Terry Brooks would like a word or two.

[@KingOfMadCows]

Terry Goodkind wasn't just a bad writer, he was a bad person. Terry made fun of Robert Jordan's heart disease when RJ missed a con because he had to go to the hospital.

[@mikelegault9344]

Didn’t he mock RJ for dying as well? I was pretty sure he did.

[@JonRowlison]

Goodkind was that way... I've seen interviews where he basically took jabs at EVERY fantasy writer that wasn't him. Some stupid quote about, "every other fantasy writer is content to write STORIES... but *I* write worlds with real depth and soul and beauty. Whole ecosystems of races and villains...." as if he had invented any of that and was the only author to flesh out a fantasy world.

[@pattheplanter]

After reading two of his books, I reminded myself not to read anymore every time I saw one by saying "Neither Good nor Kind, just Terry-ble".

[@seekeroftruth1970]

Let's stop the ignorance. The brlief in those remarks we're already disproven, I wish I could go back to my old Discord debates where I cited the many examples where he did not say or mean that, but it's too much work to go back that far and the ignorance whe it comes to Goodkind is too much. Notice I never said you personally are ignorant. People are way too sensitive nowadays. You guys can believe what you wish. Most people who criticize him have never read him, or have already made up their minds when they get around to reading him.

[@pattheplanter]

@@seekeroftruth1970 I knew nothing about him when I read the books and came to the conclusion that he was a bad human being as well as a bad writer - purely from the content of those books.

[@HeronKij]

Honestly, I cant think of a funnier way to open an epic fantasy book than "What do you got in the sack, Deary?"

[@mattiOTX]

"Game, Grandma, I got game"

[@seeschwalbe]

5:53 Fun fact, some swans do actually make a whistling sound when they fly by. It's produced by the air literally whistling around their wing feathers, if I am not mistaken, and it is one of the most beautiful sounds you can hear out in nature imo

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Huh. Now I kinda want to hear it.

[@seeschwalbe]

@@ceinwenchandler4716 The only good video of it I found on KZbin is called "Mute Swan's flight sound" (I don't know how to share a link, sorry). It has the sound, but the expierence of a whole flock of big white swans flying past while making this sound might have biased me towards liking it as much as I do😅 Hope that helps! :)

[@seeschwalbe]

@ceinwenchandler4716 There are some videos on KZbin where you can hear the sound pretty good! I just searched for some and one was called something like "swan flying--makes an amazing sound". Another one is "Höckerschwäne mit typischen Fluggeräusch", if the German title works for you. Hope you can find them and hear the sound for yourself :)

[@seeschwalbe]

Okay, so for some reason KZbin does not let me reply, but I'll try again anyways and hope this doesn't just vanish again... I found a few videos on KZbin where you can hear the sound pretty good: "swan flying--makes an amazing sound" "mute swans flight noise" and "Höckerschwäne mit typischen Fluggeräusch", if you can work with the German title as well. Hope you can hear it this way too! :)

[@1234cheerful]

@@seeschwalbe thanks for taking out the time to find the videos. I don't know about beautiful but the sound is very distinctive!

[@StarvingArtist600]

Daniel found a way to actually make Goodkind entertaining. I didn't think it was possible, but he did it.

[@andrewg2032]

Books were well written

[@StarvingArtist600]

@@andrewg2032 we are going to have to agree to disagree on that one. I found the characters to be unlikeable, plots to be repetitive, the magic system to be nonsensical, the series was internally inconsistent and several things throughout the series were ripped off from Tolkien and Jordan. Every book had a prophecy about Kahlan betraying Richard, that doesn't quite work out the way they thought it would. Every book features a villain that wants to... SA Kahlan, in spite of the fact that she can kill them with a touch, and there is enough SA and bondage throughout the series to turn George RR Martin's stomach. If you liked it, that's great, but it wasn't for me.

[@StarvingArtist600]

@jesuslverfmysul hard as it may be to believe, but some people try s lot of different books to see if they like them. I gave Goodkind a shot about 15 years ago. Gave it a few books to see if it got better, and gave up. But I do remember them. I have a pretty good memory for books I've read. Even the ones I didn't like. You should try reading more. I think you'd like it.

[@StarvingArtist600]

@jesuslverfmysul I'm so sorry I didn't force myself to read a series I wasn't enjoying. I'll try to do better in the future.

[@daylifeyonah]

When I was 11 years old, Terry Goodkind drove me around in his ferrari. He was an odd duck to say the least. My dad was the head of the Ayn Rand Institute at the time, so naturally they were friends. I read the first 5 Sword of Truth books and loved them as a pre-teen. Then stopped reading novels for 15 years. Now i do read a lot of fantasy and looking back on them, they were hot garbage. But that ferrari was sweet. RIP

[@sonic31century1]

Which fantasy books were "hot garbage?" Why did you judge them as such?

[@freman007]

@@sonic31century1 The first five books of the Sword of Truth series.

[@trevormartin1770]

1. Who dethroned TG? 2. I still like that the first printing of "Debt of Bones" was incorrectly attributed to Robert Jordan, at a time when TG was actively trying to shit on RJ because ... reasons?

[@gandalfthegrey7146]

Daniel: “I thought she was gonna ask…” ad: “are you avoiding therapy?”

[@Archaon6044]

Having read Wizards First Rule (and not having read Debt of Bones) when I was... 16/17? I know that Zedd doesn't care about his daughter dying here, because his daughter is Richard's mother, so she MUST survive this story somehow

[@AntediluvianRomance]

Buuuut he also could have made another daughter.

[@TexasBlade]

It’s a death spell, or something. A spell that makes people think you’ve died. Like a supped up illusion that imprints itself in people’s mind. If I’m remembering correctly. It’s been a long time.

[@techsoul5590]

He faked her death etc.

[@FlyingFocs]

So I'm working on a xenofiction book without dialogue where the characters are dinosaurs... This is the confidence boost I needed.

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Wow. Sounds like you've given yourself one heck of a challenge. I wish you luck, and if you pull it off, that sounds like a really cool read.

[@27thandpaseo]

This might have been the book to spark the idea but if not, check out a book called Raptor Red. Good luck on your book!

[@samueldavidbatistaruiz7510]

That shit sounds so cool, let me know when it comes out

[@mattiOTX]

That's going to be hard to do but I wish you luck. That sounds like an awesome concept. Lots of actions to stand in for dialogue is gonna be hard but I think you can do it.

[@FlyingFocs]

@@mattiOTX it's mainly atmsophere, a bit (but not too much) anthropomorphising, and sensory description. Currently editing the third draft.

[@1234cheerful]

INCREDIBLE voice acting! AND incisive commentary and criticism from in front of and behind the camera. All on one channel!

[@ambiguousmax7478]

I read the entire Sword of Truth series, starting in my junior of high school and ending some time in college. It was my first 'adult' fantasy, and I only got into it because my older sister (Who isn't a big reader but likes the occasional book) got me the first three for my birthday and would get me the next one for every holiday. I'll admit at the time I enjoyed them, but I started skimming the endless speeches four books in and have read so many actually good books I know they would be a dumpster fire now. But I can't bring myself to get rid of them because they were a source of bonding with my sister. I don't have the heart to tell her how much worse they are in hindsight 😅

[@Haigen64]

This was literally me, but my mum was the one who introduced me to them and we bonded over them. I even have a collectors edition of The First Confessor I can't part with 😅

[@ambiguousmax7478]

@@Haigen64 Good to know I'm not the only one who can't completely turn their back on this mess 🤣I read the Omen Machine but by then I'd started branching out and the flaws started getting way more noticeable so that was my leaving point

[@TexasBlade]

@@ambiguousmax7478it was my favorite series for a long time because it was my first adult series as well… only after reading WoT and then going back for Last Confessor did I realize how repetitive Goodkind is. I have all the original books on audio but haven’t listened to them in a decade or more. I do wonder how they would hit now…

[@weismanwriter9426]

It's writers like Terry Goodkind that inspire me in my aspirations to become a published Author. If this drivel can be published, my work certainly can lol. This is BAD bad.

[@lazyrmc]

Same here

[@msskaggs3911]

Here are some of my favorite Terry Goodkind's aweful quotes: [Terry's rampant sexism shining through -- this was a little off-color even in the 90s] _"Never let a beautiful woman pick your path for you when there is a man in her line of sight."_ [The evil of farmyard animals] _“But this was no ordinary chicken. This chicken was evil manifest.”_ [Terry's protagonist has 'a thing' that 'rises up' while he's being interrogated by the prepubescent female antagonist] _"Richard actually felt sorry for the little Princess. The sadness for her came over him in a wave. At that feeling, he was surprised to feel the thing in him that had come awake rise up."_ [Terry declaring he's not like other -girls- fantasy authors ] *_"First of all, I don't write fantasy. I write stories that have important human themes. They have elements of romance, history, adventure, mystery and philosophy. Most fantasy is one-dimensional. It's either about magic or a world-building. I don't do either"_* [Who can forget the scene in which his protagonist slaughters a bunch of unarmed protestors] _"On his way past her, gritting his teeth as he screamed with the fury of the attack begun, Richard took a powerful swing, lopping off the woman's head and upraised arm. Strings of blood and gore splashed across the faces behind her even as some still chanted their empty words. The head and loose arm tumbled through the crowd. A man mad the mistake of reaching for Richard's weapon, and took the full weight of a charging thrust._ _Men behind Richard hit the line of evil's guardians with unrestrained violence. People armed only with their hatred for moral clarity fell bloodied, terribly injured, and dead."_

[@techsoul5590]

"Never let a beautiful woman pick your path for you when there is a man in her line of sight." How is that sexist?

[@techsoul5590]

Also, "Richard actually felt sorry for the little Princess. The sadness for her came over him in a wave. At that feeling, he was surprised to feel the thing in him that had come awake rise up." is about his magic

[@jackakhan]

​@@techsoul5590 yup! U r right. Looks like op is just a perv......😂

[@joshuasutton7451]

Not gonna lie, the chicken line is the funniest thing I've read in weeks

[@aussieseal9979]

@@techsoul5590how is it not?

[@MrIcekiller269]

That terry goodkind picture he used makes him look like he could win a Steven seagal impersonation contest 😂😂

[@secretsquirrel726]

I am sorry to hear he passed away. It either shimmers like satin, reflecting light, or has the warm glow of satin.

[@mascot4950]

I remember reading and enjoying the early parts of the Sword of Truth series when I was younger. I also vaguely remember it deteriorating to the point where I started skipping chunks of a book because of what felt like chapters worth of monologues of the exact same sentiments being repeated again and again. I was about to say I haven't read any Goodkind for what must be over twenty years now, and that I seemingly had left him behind at the right time to retain mainly positive memories. Then I decided to check myself and it turns out that after a ten year hiatus, I apparently gave First Confessor a try when it came out. I even wrote a review of it. Oh boy, did reading that review bring back some memories. The one positive note I managed to come up with was: "there weren't many typos."

[@justinankar]

Hahaha, I so agree. The first three are pretty good, then it gets into fetish territory and then right turns again and becomes full of political stuff. I think I got through seven before I gave up and never finished again.

[@MOONSUN4Life]

8:27 Daniel: "Get your moist mouth the cluck away from my ear." Also Daniel: Takes a sip of this drink and makes moist mouth sounds in the microphone. Thanks, Daniel, that was gross 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheLizardKing752]

I heard "moist mouse" the first time.

[@nothanks1657]

yeah just fuck everyone with misophonia i guess lmao

[@gnomishviking3013]

Who’s the guy he can not name?

[@jessiemcknight5135]

I read them in high school, they were recommended by a friend, and really liked them. They are what really hooked me into the fantasy genre. I also shared them with my parents and aunt and uncle and we all enjoyed reading them together. Near the end of the series I picked up WoT, and was just amazed at what good fantasy could be. This made going back to SoT really difficult, which I did for awhile before finally giving up. As an adult I tried to go back to the series and thought it was pretty awful, but I have fond memories with them and am thankful to have read them as an entry to other great fantasy, and they are still sititng on my shelf... for now.

[@EJaramillo]

I loved them growing up they got me into the fantasy genre as well. I did read other fantasy series as well. I still like the writing and the story. Maybe it’s just me but I do think he’s a good writer and the stories are compelling. The speeches and Mcguffins do get tiring though.

[@Marveryn]

@@EJaramillo i am older. i dont remember which author exactly got me into fantasy but i got say one of the earliest was Anne McCaffrey as for Goodkind. I thought his first book and as a teenage boy the bdsm undertone did not bother me but as the series went on it just seem he was going over the top and i lost interested. I never did finish the series I think i drop it after book 3. am not positive, but am sure it was around there. it was when he introduce to his brother??? that could control people?

[@breem2999]

Always here for a drunken Terry Goodkind roast.

[@SallyB_23]

please tell me that "somebody" who has dethroned terry goodkind as the most controversial fantasy author is SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED

[@tsttrewes]

Goodkind got me as a young man with the first book. Original? No. Particularly well written? No. It was however, a novelty to find fantasy that got so far into "adult" material. Too far? Maybe... But I ate it up at the time. Stuck it out for the next couple books, each getting incrementally getting less novel and more "waaa?" Temple of the Winds just left me scratching my head, pondering on whether Goodkind was doing OK. Faith of the Fallen made me hang it up for good having come to the conclusion that there answer to my previous question was unequivocally, "No."

[@commonviewer2488]

Imagine the 2nd line in the back is the main character answering the question. "What do you got in the sack, dearie?" "My mother's dead skull."

[@CalvinLee606]

That actually would be a good opening line.

[@leonmayne797]

‘I am the object of vengeance.’ (Man Carrying Thing That Book you wrote in Middle School voice)

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

Saw this recommended right after watching the “why I won’t be talking about Terry Goodkind anymore” video lol

[@thac0twenty377]

The difference that attracted a lot of us to Goodmind was the trope subversion. Back then, every protag was the reluctant hero. Richard just said "yeah ok, we need to so this" The philosophical concepts- prophecy vs free will, objective truth vs perceived truth, and the villains actually doing evil were all new. RJ, Tolkien- PG13. Goodkind- R. And of course Kayla didn't like it. Bones answers questions developed in the first book or two. There's no way to grasp the context at all about the Debt, the walls, Zed, the MordSith.

[@dajtoad1]

Forgive me if I’m being a little dense, but that was all intended as sarcasm, right? Add his reluctance to write torture porn to your list and you get the sum total of the opposite of his books.

[@thac0twenty377]

@dajtoad1 he depicted evil as evilnand you get your hands dirty fighting it. up til then everything was a pg13. not sarcasm.

[@dajtoad1]

@@thac0twenty377 trope subversion? Reluctant hero? Prophecy vs free will? Objective vs perceived truth? Evil villains? You think these were new things that Goodkind incorporated into work instead of, perhaps, many, many times before?

[@thac0twenty377]

@dajtoad1 before goodnind, especially that period, it was always a reluctant hero. the evil was watered down. Fantasy for the most part was Tolkien esque- Jordan, DnD books, Brooks. So yes, at the time it was a change from the norm. You seem well versed, prior to the 90s what would you recommend in fantasy that explored these concepts?

[@dajtoad1]

@@thac0twenty377 Richard was the very definition of reluctant hero! He didn’t want to go anywhere. He initially refused the sword. They burned his whole home around him before he finally set off! And yes, Sauron was a good person deep down. All he wanted was a little world domination and enslavement of everyone to his will and he’d have been fine.

[@aaronharvey5625]

That is the greatest pre-title teaser I have ever seen on KZbin.

[@katendress6142]

Now I really wanna see Daniel get drunk and read the extended torture sequence from the first one but Holy Demonetization, Batman!

[@rubyr8922]

Speaking of controversial fantasy authors, im surprised you’ve never mentioned Piers Anthony in any of your video’s, as far as I can remember

[@srely3786]

Yeah, he is so creepy in his storytelling. Just very thinly veiled pedo stories.

[@JonRowlison]

Okay, I'm going to stand up for A Spell for Chameleon (Xanth.) Anthony should have at least ONE of his Xanth novels made into a movie (and Chameleon had a lot of funny bits.) This book has been held on option for a movie for decades without being made. :(

[@quillanpaulsen3445]

The more i hear about terry goodkind gives me more hope in becoming an author

[@TheGamingWard]

"IS IT SATIN OR NOT" will now be on my tombstone

[@HumbleGnome]

I thought I would've liked having your mouth next to my ear... but nope. That was horrible 🤣

[@chillsahoy2640]

I read the Sword of Truth books after reading Wheel of Time and at first I thought "Oh cool, this guy is paying homage to Robert Jordan the same way that Robert Jordan pays homage to Tolkien and to Arthurian legend" but the more I read, the more it looked like he was just plagiarising. And then comes the giant army that is obviously the author's attempt to say "Communism is bad because these guys are communists and they're bad" and then he starts plagiarising his goddess Ayn Rand when the protagonist is forced to do the sculptures for an evil palace, and I was just...in awe of what he was doing, not because it was good, but because it was so shameless.

[@Uzkodas]

Terry Goodkind’s books are in a weird spot with me. I first read them in middle school and I thought they were fantastic. So much so that it got me thinking, “what else is out there?” and I found so many great authors and book series because of the Sword of Truth. But a year or few ago I thought it’d be fun to read the the SoT again, but now that I’m an adult, all I can say is that there was no joy, only sadness. So on the one hand I’m grateful for all the good I’ve read because of it, but it’s so bad and it cringes my soul.

[@jennyheidewald5006]

I had that happen with David Eddings series. We didn't know any better when we were young.

[@Jostyy]

Dude, no way, I was just rewatching your old videos on this guy and 20 minutes later I see this on my feed

[@VahdaMage]

Never cared about the controversy, his books are really good, especially the first 6.

[@marmartin9822]

Every time someone mentions Terry Goodkind I’m forced to remember I know someone named after one of the characters

[@techsoul5590]

Which character?

[@bibliophilecb]

This was chaotic as hell and I love it. Also props to the editing, 10/10

[@mattiOTX]

To answer granny you got to hit her with "Game, grandma, I got game." Leave her at that and walk away.

[@marksreofficial]

You are hilarious, Daniel. Keep up the comedy.

[@justinemercier7832]

I read terry goodkind in high school and he was my favourite author then…. Then I became more well read and l will never go back to reread a book of his again.

[@RC-lw5lw]

That thumbnail explains it all, yo lol

[@jwstorytelling]

Ah yes, let the sippy sips flow! lol

[@Archnenmsis_91]

1:05 excuse me, sir I know you haven’t exactly started reading yet, but I believe you owe us a few sips sips

[@8bitvent]

Dressed in red with a long braid... I can't believe Larian stole the design of Orin from Terry Goodking /s

[@ethanmelton576]

Daniel's Batman voice sounds like The Ultimate Warrior.

[@aedrianys]

great video but your voice is so annoying when high pitched please don't do that

[@Down.D.Stairs.]

O hay I recognize goodkind I love his sword of truth series

[@BariiAlyn]

Man, your Editor is fantastic. Kudos to Ben.

[@joewhite4564]

"i broughty mother's dead head" eas unreasonably hilarious 😂

[@lorenpeterson5255]

Glad you're reading Sun Eater!

[@skalliedA]

is Jay Kristoff the new Terry Goodkind?

[@IsmaPuntoDoc]

Dude, I was so looking forward to this, but there's NO WAY I'm watching all the way through with all the mouth sounds. I cannot stand it. I know it's not a big deal, it's probably not a problem to a lot of people, and it's a "creative choice", let's call it, but my oversensitive ass really can't take it. Please, never again.

[@debragarcia5988]

What's your definition of old and why so much hate?

[@freman007]

According to Terry Gookind, the Wizard's first rule is that people are stupid. And that seems to be how he views the readers of his books.

[@TaskMaster5]

I mean, he wasn't wrong. People ARE stupid.

[@enki4589]

This was a such a great vid!!!!

[@jasonthedave6140]

I DNF'd 'Wizard's First Rule' and have never been remotely tempted to go back to it. It wasn't a story, just a series of plot points that happen for no f'n reason. I eventually used it to prop up the back of my air conditioner. Best possible use for that dreck.

[@upstatelee18]

Goodkind is the kind of author that relied on having younger teenagers read his books before reading anything else so they had nothing to compare it to. Even as a younger man I was able to see how bad some of the books were after a couple of them.

[@Paul_McSeol]

I finished book 1 and yeah…. Was not worth committing to the longer series.

[@mikelegault9344]

No reason? “Because prophecy”😂

[@deadlightlabyrinth]

That is exactly how it happened for me. Read the 12 books in my mid teens, some of the first books I'd ever read. I enjoyed them at the time, but I wouldn't take a TG book now if it were gifted to me. He's so incredibly preachy, and I couldn't stand supporting that garbage can anyway.

[@aaronzegas5270]

I somehow made it 3.5 books through, before I hurled the fourth book across the room because it sucked so bad. I think that was the one with the chicken that was evil incarnate.

[@donnahylton6931]

Back when my kids were teens... they loved Robert Asprin's 'punny' books like Phule's Company and his darker series Thieves World when a bit older. I never judged it since it kept them entertained and most importantly, kept them reading.

[@robertblume2951]

What's to judge?

[@georgeharris6851]

After reading the 9 book series of the Sword of Truth, I realized that I had wasted my time on 6 of those books, and that I would never get that time back, I vowed to never read another Goodkind book. The hero was not needed for the last 6 books, as the resolution would have been the same without him in the last 6 books. Preachy books that accomplished nothing.

[@TimeKitt]

I was really deep into the Sword of Truth serries, and even I didnt feel a need to read debt of bones, and hearing this sounds like I didnt miss much. As a prequel ment to setup something that clearly wasnt thought through very much, I already knew most of the events anyways. Also like seriously having people who dont want magic on one side of a permanent wall spitting out hell creatures is such a bad decision. The immediate children who are dragged over by parents are gonna be upset with that, plus future generations. But yeah the lol j/k endings are perfectly in line with the main serries, along with a one liner wizard rule that is definitely screeched to fit because the story wasnt planned enough to fit. There's also the weird politics of "be self reliant, democracy bad, let chosen one hereditary wizard king make life decisions for you because this one happens to be better than the last one"

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

Where's the middle of the story? Like from the breakdown of the entire story at the end there sounds like there is a lot of set up at the start to get the wizard to do anything then suddenly everyone is saved and the story is ending

[@ethanmelton576]

I was half-listening to your ad for Paired, and at first I thought it was a dating app for couples.

[@TheDuckKing007]

16:43 Geez who thought that was a good idea for a plot This give me hope to publish one day.

[@metalmechanic6664]

I have read every single book in the SoT universe. They are all terrible but in the same way Taco Bell is terrible. I fuckin love some taco bell from time to time but I always regret it afterward

[@jlaun78]

This guy wrote an assassin who kept a scrap of paper in his pocket with his targets name on it.

[@pattheplanter]

If you know anything of the incompetence of real-life wannabe hitmen, that would be a good idea for many of them.

[@chrismarcum3089]

The villain of the third book carried a bag of nipples that his sister used for a mind control spell.

[@joshwondra9821]

There’s the bones of an interesting story in his series but he got distracted by writing about weird sex stuff constantly

[@randomspider725]

Not the comments and replies that are like, “Terry Goodkind is a secret genius, you just don’t understand him enough!” XD Like, I know that everyone has their tastes, but there’s a difference between liking trash and then pretending that your trash is secretly gold, especially if you need to insult the people who dislike your trash. Stop it. (Also, no, Terry did not make the first “adult” fantasy. He did not make the first “reluctant hero”, he didn’t make the first anything. That isn’t how storytelling works. Even if we existed in that world, he inspired NOBODY. No fantasy author in this day and age mentions him as an inspiration, except to maybe say how grateful they are to know their writing isn’t as bad as his. He’s just lingering around like a bad fart.)

[@torbjornlekberg7756]

After first The Sword of Truth book I could not bring myself to read fantasy for several years. The book was not just shlock, I can deal with schlock, but the word salad and pseudo-fascist Ayn Rand ideals disgusted me. To be fair, it was not just Terry Badkinds fault. I was also tired of reading authors trying to be Tolkien and severely failing in being Tolkien.

[@conveyor2]

You're ignorant about fascism.

[@torbjornlekberg7756]

@@conveyor2 Such conviction in that, even tho I did not even go into the subject? Sounds to me that you are rather quick to judgement.

[@ggh6572]

Wow, so you actually did do some of Terry Goodkind again after all, Daniel? Not that Im complaining, just thought you were genuinly done with his works for good.

[@tinyprettymoon]

“She licked the tip of her tongue” lowkey sounds like this was poorly translated from another language lmao what is going on

[@tlee656]

Hope Ben got a bonus for this one, LOL!! Had me giggling like crazy several times!

[@wfvart]

It would have been far more predictable with the daughter if you realized Richards Mom you know. Lives to give birth to him.

[@ShellShock145]

That cut to the Swans gave me a good laugh

[@connorcrosby9297]

that's the best impression of batman with a cold I've ever heard.

[@Haigen64]

Man it's so weird. I started with Ranger's Apprentice, then after finishing that picked up Wizard's First Rule and thought it was great. Read all of Terry Goodkind thinking it was incredible because I'd only known YA fantasy and nothing else so it seemed really good. After finishing the Sword of Truth series (the follow ups were rough) I kind of stopped reading for a while, picking up the odd random book once in a blue moon. Getting into Red Rising when it came out (what a book!) and then eventually my friend mentioned Way of Kings and holy crap after reading that I had no idea just how much of a gap in quality there was between Goodkind and other authors. I've since read a ton of Sanderson and other Authors and man I feel like I missed out on so much when I was younger. I'm just glad I can look back and enjoy it as a kid cause I doubt I could bring myself to read it seriously today lol

[@23Feanor]

I don't know anything about the author, and I can understand why some of the content is a bit controversial, but the Sword of Truth novels are some of my favourite fantasy (Tolkien, Terry Pratchett and Terry Brooks being the others), especially the 5th book Faith of the Fallen and the final 3 books making up the epic finale. I'm currently reading 6th book of Wheel of Time and honestly, no where near as good.

[@anneroosv]

Really enjoyed the Minecraft themed editing, nice job Ben!

[@jakepetruolo1847]

The problem is he wrote the prequel like a decade or more after he started the series and while the idea was cool to see how the whole world was set up 20 some odd years before the events of the main storyline but its wasn't the best novella it felt like a 150 page run on sentence

[@Tower_Of_Chaos]

I love the minecraft eating sound effects lol

[@ThiLI0n]

I cannot watch this because of all the eating and slurping sounds. I'm now seething with rage and I can ensure you that I will hold a grudge for this. Please at least give a trigger warning before such an attack next time

[@AlexGoldhill]

Terry Goodkind, who was neither.

[@TheAmyrlinSeat]

Terry Badmean

[@rattslayer]

Is Goodkind controversial? i dont know anyone who defends him.

[@bigbangattack97]

daniel drinking that new amsterdam straight is hard-core and i drink wild turkey 101 lol

[@kyannayk]

Would love more roasts of books like this of goodkinds whole series or Ayn Rand. Fun when it's a "high status" author who isn't punching down to make fun of

[@jakiedark]

I would shit bricks if Daniel would use a story of mine for such a video. I hope I at least would not be worst than Terry.

[@ericmalikyte885]

"Maybe it's because I hate old people," lmfao, Jesus dude.

[@jessehughes8274]

The entire series of these has been building to a TG book. The only part of this that could have been more poetic is if this review WAS a "JK lol not dead" moment somehow

[@scuttlebut]

I liked his series. There was a lot of story that I did like. The preaching and the "r word" was not a thing I was a fan of, but it did build the world and I accepted it. My least favorite part was how the story "continued" after it was over and broke what was a "good" ending.

[@claudemartin7785]

Audiobooked all of them until the wedding. Then learned about the wheel of time Also it was my 1st "adventure" after LotR. I didnt know better 😅 please forgive

[@696weewee]

I know ppl who swear by terry being the best author ever and I have read all the series...unwilling to not finish it and it is so shit and the rest of the series is just the same. It is basically the same 3 books over and over again on repeat.

[@DmGray]

As a fan of the series with extremely disagreements with the authors ideology here my 2c: I read Blood of the Fold as my intro to the series when I was MAYBE 15? I thoroughly enjoyed it and picked up the first two soon after. I enjoyed them too. Looking back after a couple of decades more reading, I can see they were derivative (this is not a criticism) but my main gripe is that characters do things I find morally objectionable, but are presented as virtuous, or do neutral or even moral things that are treated as inherently evil. Especially charity... and I'm actually not a fan of charity either, as I think it's mostly "white saviour" thinking. It's still NOT evil. (Richard's consistent jealousy is at least acknowledged as a flaw, but a character he loves effectively being raped becomes about his hurt feelings over her betrayal) I still think they're a good read, but to this day Goodkind remains the only author I have skimmed on a first read just so I don't have to read his political opinions. As soon as a character starts on those lines I will legitimately just look ahead to the end of the conversation and start again from there, having lost nothing. I like many of the characters, I think some of the themes about love, friendship and hard work are positive, but that he uses cheap tricks to pretend any alternative to his personal opinion leads to evil (I particularly dislike the idea that a person can be so committed to an ideology that they will actively embrace evil as a virtue. Ala Nikki. A few minor tweaks would save that arc, but it would involve admitting that filthy commies are often motivated by all the same things as objectivists. They merely disagree on the means. "ends justify the means" is a good theme for a villain or antihero and it's not far distant from what he chose to do, but would involve extending actual empathy to people he disagrees with, which I don't think many objectivists are capable of)

[@davidwilcock2416]

I watched sword of truth, which was crap, but it was fun crap and it was the only fantasy tv around. Then i bought 7 of the books. Then i read book one. I havent read another. The tv show was waaaay better.

[@TheLizardKing752]

I read Wizard's First Rule when I was 13... that book kinda messed me up as a teenager.

[@gnomishviking3013]

Dude I was also like 13-14 when I read it. If only my parents knew about the fucked up torture dungeon sex.

[@TheLizardKing752]

@@gnomishviking3013 For real tho

[@jasonthedave6140]

Goodkind's writing is horrific on it's own, he doesn't need to add anything else.

[@andrewg2032]

Stupid take