Terry O’Neil & Gary Spiers, two of the most deadliest fighters in Liverpool.

Full podcast with Stephen French dropping Friday 29/9/23.

[@sethplate7176]

Terry O’Neil, Gary Spiers, Pete McDowell are the living proof for the effectiveness of REAL karate (not the cut-off competition point version). Anyone who doubts that, take a look at the videos of these guys and see what they can do. It is absolutely lethal. Huge respect for these pioneers. Osu!

[@chrisbaines306]

Hardest men in the UK are lads working 60 hours in a factory to feed there family.

[@boriscovidscamson2911]

This channel glorifies thugs and criminals. I know working men that would put these slags to sleep without breaking a sweat.

[@johnrandall125]

their

[@monitor4728]

No mate they’re called working men because they work all their lives and end up with fuck all . I admire them but they’re providers and not fighters BIG difference

[@boriscovidscamson2911]

@@monitor4728 who says they end up with fuck all?

[@monitor4728]

@@boriscovidscamson2911 ok genius work a normal job 9 to 5 to pay the bills and retire at 65 …what’s at the end where your financial freedom , maybe 10 years of quality life left to enjoy …if that’s what you want out of life great 😳👀

[@philipmercer487]

Gary spiers was a legend so many stories about him. Rip Gary.

[@davesmith2413]

I trained with Terry at the Red triangle and Gary when he was teaching in Birkenhead, both are absolute legends in martial arts. I still use Applied karate (Goju Ryu). that Gary taught. I was very lucky to have had the honor to train with theses men .

[@bluenose007]

The Red Triangle was Shotokan not Goju

[@monitor4728]

@@bluenose007 he never said the Red Triangle 🔺 was GO JU ……FFS 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@truckerfromreno]

Honour.

[@monitor4728]

@@truckerfromreno 😂👍🏻

[@tonyturner5024]

@@bluenose007blue noses no nothing just like the Football team 🙄.

[@kpr1969]

Terry was working a door on the Wirral last time I saw him. One of the nicest gentleman you could meet. Used to have a child in same school as mine and always let onto me for some reason. Haven’t seen him around for a while now. Hope he’s well

[@bap7676]

I had the privilege of meeting and training with Terry in a seminar in the 90's during my shotokan days..what a gentleman and a absolute machine of a martial artist 😮

[@thebritishpatriot1]

Although not a doorman, Frank Brennan is one of the best karate experts in the world and from Liverpool. When you talk about hard men this man is solid.

[@liamhennelly3961]

100% 👍🏻 very nice humble man too. I was trained by his brother Jimmy Brennan red triangle Croxteth 👍🏻✌🏻

[@monitor4728]

Frank is an unbelievable martial artist BUT Terry and Gary were proven on the street so HUGE difference mate . Could Frank Brennan win in a street fight 💯NO DOUBT but I don’t think he’s ever had a street fight as he 🤷🏽. Gary and Terry had thousands of altercations on the door over their many years working them and probably over a thousand KOs between them in real fights . That puts them in an ENTIRELY different league as hard men as there are no rules on the street . You can loose your liberty ( go to jail ) or even your life on the pavement arena BIG difference to a dojo hard man mate !!!!

[@waldi1339]

Sensei brennan has very nice technique also.

[@peterhughes6987]

I'm sure Frank had the red triangle 🔺️ at one point in the eighties, thanks.

[@SoulOnTopJB]

WOW, I've read so much about the legendary Gary, never seen any footage of him, Terry was my former sensei, a doorman who could do a round-house in a stairwell 😁 Great upload.

[@markharris6819]

Great stuff billy cant wait for full podcast

[@esolthailand7439]

When Mr.French says with awe ‘…and it was Gary Spiers…’ whilst telling this story with his thick Liverpudlian accent, the KZbin subtitle shows it as ‘…and it was Scary Spice…’. 😂😂😂 Oh the comedy

[@zenthomas9180]

Good stuff, can’t wait for the full podcast! ☘️✌🏻peace✌🏻☘️🎭

[@terryhall7697]

Bill , Ronnie colwell is my great uncle from the old bullring in Chinatown Look this man up on what he done in his career the man was a legend

[@ripvanwincle2258]

He looks more relaxed than i've ever seen him before looking forward to this one.Take care mate hope Joe's doing good.👍

[@kevinhoughton9134]

Just wondering why Frenchy isn't mentioned in any Alfie's uploads or vlogs? I remember Frenchy as one of the top fighters of Liverpool Freestyle back in the day, a force to be reckoned with.

[@bobjuke4216]

Interesting - never seen film of Gary before..They both worked on the door of The Banyan Tree at the same time for a couple of years during the early-mid 70's, a couple of months after Terry brought Gary (who told me he was half Maori BTW - and that his mum was an Irish nurse) over from Japan where he was living at the time.. This was during the period where Gary first starting running dojos and Terry has his knee-cap severely damaged in an international match (I think it might have been in Belgium) that essentially stopped him fighting competitively

[@therealpaddy4687]

BillyBalboa Boy you look like ye have peace on your face and you deserve it your the one giving me hope ill get there cant wait to be clean to wake up fresh every morning not there yet but following you/your channel is helping me if you can do it so can i thanks for your work and help congrats to all people that have gotten clean ill see ya's at the top......................great episode say howdy to Terry.

[@liamhennelly3961]

Some of the hardest men Liverpool has ever seen where not well known at all. When I hear all these names that everyone glorifies I think of the hard knock solid men I knew growing up in L11 who where were nice men but where seriously dangerous men.

[@BennyBlanco481]

All north Enders are farts

[@liamhennelly3961]

Instead of writing it on here go to L11 and shout it laaa 👍🏻

[@thomassmith6638]

Crocky?

[@liamhennelly3961]

@@thomassmith6638 I grew up in Crocky in the 70's and 80's and then moved to the other side of L11 until mid 90's

[@ToffeeL10]

​@BennyBlanco481 I'm a North ender but fair play this made me chuckle 😂

[@richiewilliams6875]

He looks sharp for his age I have to admit Stay Blessed Billy Moore yeah know the score

[@jamesdean1148]

met terry once when he came in for his mail at the sorting office,very nice man was telling us about a tv programme he was in with the actress janet mcteer

[@SoulOnTopJB]

He was in a few, including this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3_MeGyuqrSNp6Msi=8XlRWXBVB3KoleVP

[@desolateones]

The Governor... Great show

[@Loonyluna23]

Another great interview and as always we are seeing another side to the people we were told were only one sided God bless Bill 🙌

[@2bxgym548]

Gary was a legend and think about what he said about Steve Morris

[@stevenwalton1431]

God bless you Stephen french

[@stechriswillgil3686]

The inner peace striking through the martial arts world right now has come directly from the ' Dao '. It's a rare event and a very great gift. Chinese astrological charts are buzzing right now. Nobody saw it coming though !

[@snakeybriskins6432]

My dad was Gary's good mate. My dad has a lot of stories. I would like him to go on a podcast, but I don't think he would.

[@mrsoul4231]

Looks like you’ve got a good interview out of him there Billy. Looking forward to Friday.

[@JosephLangshaw]

Too be fair Frenchy isn't exactly short of words.

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

Yes but still I got a good one out of him.

[@markfindlay8636]

I've met Terry o Neil in the 80's he was a good kicker.

[@monitor4728]

Bit better than just a good kicker mate

[@monitor4728]

@@tanglewood777 yes he was unbelievable with his kicks and what kicks he did in the dojo he could do on the street ..Legend 💯👍🏻

[@SE16Proud]

There was many great exponants of martial arts in almost every town n city..lots were door supervisors or heavies..some were over zelous bullies..every dog has there day..but the story inevitantly ends the same they grow older they mellow and strive for a quiet life hoping there past doesn.t catch them up...as a OAP myself worked the clubs in the West End of London been involved in martial arts since 14 various styles achieving 6 Dans..having trained with the best and worked with the supposedly hardest men also connections to the most notorious so called gangsters from the 60.s theres always one outcome...we all grow old live on our memories and end up in a box..one way or another were all a product of circumstances and sometimes the hype around you drowns you in your own ego.😮

[@FallenAngel53]

I remember Gary Spiers Southport late 80s 👌

[@Genghis-Khan121]

I rented a garage in Southport and in all honesty I found him to be a recluse by the late 90s and overweight sadly I don’t recall seeing anyone visiting him either .so I find it a bit strange how in these interviews he’s a mate and all the rest well maybe I’m wrong but I never seen anyone go to his caravan as I was there all hours working

[@ianbeck6270]

Silcocks? Good era

[@davidray2529]

Terry was my friends dads best mate he’s a absolute monster

[@LIVERPOOLandFARBEYONDNEWS]

My uncle Les McCarthy used to tell me some stories about Gary spiers. I think they was mates from what I remember. Me uncle Les was a very hard man in his day an a proper gentleman. I think he won mr great Britain in body building or something

[@neilmarlowe1561]

Les from Runcorn.

[@LIVERPOOLandFARBEYONDNEWS]

@@neilmarlowe1561 Haha ye. How do you know him. He passed away a few years ago now. My dad told me a few stories about how handy he used to be and that he was well respected. I used to think me dad was over exaggerating an that till I seen how many people paid respects to him and spoke highly of him. My dad is one of the many cannons that emigrated to runcorn from speke

[@neilmarlowe1561]

@@LIVERPOOLandFARBEYONDNEWS I'm sorry I didn't know he passed, yer I know the name from the Burma star.

[@anorthernsoul2929]

Remember gary when i was 16 , went to Follies in southport armed with my national insurance number as ID ... he looked at it, laughed, smiled, and let me in , must have gone easy on me for my cheek 😁

[@dmode2793]

'Most deadliest' doesn't exist. It's 'deadliest' or 'most deadly'.

[@shuakhwe]

It does in scouse ❤

[@waldi1339]

Or very, very deadly?

[@bogota69]

Billy have you ever done anything on Joe Farley? I heard he had a reputation around the same time as Stephen French & Gary Spiers.

[@dannyhogi4953]

Worked events and doors years ago now did few door with him on few times well mannered and full of respect for people talked to you like any other person but fucked him off or got on wrong side of him you new about it like we all was back then this world now has gone mad can't beat old school

[@Dee-l2g]

Frenchie is looking extremely well 👌

[@davejenko]

You're not going to put 10 wee clips up instead of just playing the pod bill? ❤

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

😂 now now 😂 ❤️

[@lolavan7750]

Can't be most deadliest as there's no-one deadlier than the deadliest

[@dannypaterson888]

Clarification: This conversation occurred at the buffet and Peter was trying to tell Stephen he had a piece of cheese on his face

[@richardstubbings6962]

Said it before Bill, Gary and Andy Palmer are a different generation of doormen. Feared, but fair with you at the same time.

[@Genghis-Khan121]

I lived near him in 90s then I had a garage around 1999 2000 I worked literally feet away from his caravan that he was living in .I hardly seen him very few people did by that time as far as I could see he became a recluse and was very overweight next thing I know he’s died after going out of my way to find out his amazing history if the legend status was true ? I read that it was all true !! I felt it sad that here their all going on about him but as far as I am aware not many people visited him hardly towards the end ? maybe I’m wrong but my garage was feet away and I was there working all hours I did not see him hardly or anyone else ,I believe he was taken back to new Zealand for a traditional Māori burial

[@MarkLane-r5n]

Was that in kew behind the shops ?

[@Genghis-Khan121]

@@MarkLane-r5n first time was around Birkdale near a certain door man’s garage , then up near the round about near the speed camera on Southport rd , Manchester Dave had his garage not that far away ,

[@tonywilson4339]

gary spiers was staying with mark in his house in birkenhead when he took ill and taken to arrowpark hospital and sadly died

[@ianbeck6270]

Brilliant respect for you

[@davidevans3498]

Does this come with subtitles

[@daveywhyte6254]

He seems different frenchy, maybe just feels more at ease talking to a fellow scouser 👍

[@garysmylie975]

It's great to hear about karate in the real world.. Osu.

[@canelo-ro9xu]

Wens this dropping bill ..look forward to it ..

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

Friday 7:00pm

[@canelo-ro9xu]

@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 cheers bill top man

[@tommyhassan3545]

My mate Von Johnson fought terry O’Neil in the 1978 British karate final and Von beat him Von was the best karate man to ever come out of wales

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

Tommy are you from Caernarfon??

[@tommyhassan3545]

@@Theoriginalbigbrillo no cardiff mate

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

​@tommyhassan3545 Ahh OK Tommy, only asked as I got talking to a guy some years back in Caernarfon who trained with and knew Gary and all the Old School Liverpudlian martial artists very well 👍👍

[@tommyhassan3545]

@@Theoriginalbigbrillo no probs mate yeah Von is from cardiff too same area as me a place called tiger bay

[@monitor4728]

Terry would have WASTED him on the street 🤷🏽

[@DudeSilad]

I don't remember Starley Koumas working RJ's. There was a rivalry between the doormen working RJ's and Starley's crew if I remember right. I maybe wrong. Maybe they sorted it out and it was after I used to frequent it. They had the same doormen there for years.

[@martinvegas1327]

I like Frenchy👍

[@johnskidmoor-e5b]

Joe Owens Talking Sense Has Suella Braverman been watching Joe Owen's videos?

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

👀

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

👌

[@johnoconnor793]

When the full interview on Billy ??

[@angela8322]

Terry was my brothers next door neighbour for years in Oxton

[@SS-go4wi]

This guy was a gangsta back in the days.

[@BobTheBuilder-l9d]

Garry v Terry who wins ???

[@jaynewton5278]

Did anyone see Mr Terry in the 51st state selling a crappy mini.

[@MaoriMan76]

Too much matua repping Aotearoa our warrior bloodlines hard out... Respect ❤

[@paultraynorbsc627]

Ronnie had his Dojo in Lodge Lane Shotokan it was nice Training there

[@JimmyIreland69]

The Steven seagall of the Crime world 👀

[@jaydentate6080]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@technomickdocumentalist2495]

Lol’d at this mate .. 😂

[@user-xq6sj3jk5x]

Terry's a gentleman until you upset him . My instructor for many years respect to him 💪💪💪👍👍👍

[@johnmiller1300]

Terry O’Neil pulled up next to me at set of lights in anfield 1996 he must have just come from the red triangle his club the size of his arms where the size of my legs massive guy. Respect he must have been in his late 40s then respect

[@spudhead1161]

The red triangle wasn't his club.

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

@@spudhead1161 Dont think John meant his club literally, lol I Think he meant it as "His club where he was training that day, budd👍

[@freqeist]

Terry O’Neil inspired me to take up Shotokan Karate.

[@Exnavyjay]

Some of the comments on here are priceless, it’s all like, my uncle was hard and I’ve heard of this guy, bla bla fucking bla!

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

Alright Bill , hope you got permission for that thumbnail of Terry and Gary or a certain Mr Martin will be Knockin at yer door Lar 😂😂🤔🤔 All Four , Dennis, Terry , Gary and Alfie Lewis, where visitors to my Dads club (RR&PC) back in the early 80,s especially Dennis Martin who had his own Club within a club lol (CQB Training) anyone within the Firearms/ Military industry will know what that means 👍👍👍

[@monitor4728]

Frenchy doesn’t like Mr Martin

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

@@monitor4728 Not a lot of people did to be fair , including my Dad! I personally liked him in the early days of his CQB Training, especially the "El Presidente Drill" 👍👍👍

[@monitor4728]

@@Theoriginalbigbrillo why didn’t your dad like him Den was always sound . He’s forgot more than most will ever know , him and Terry are still on the door in their 70s 😳which I think is sad

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

​@monitor4728 Dad thought his ways with traditional gun shooting was not the way ! it was more a clash of personalitys to be honest and very different shooting styles 👍👍 as mentioned, I liked Dennis's shooting drills very radical at the time early 1980.s 🤔🤔

[@monitor4728]

@@Theoriginalbigbrillo ah from Dens shooting days ,yes he was ahead of his time definitely in that respect and brought a lot of ideas back from the states ( USA) . Dens good friend Masad Ayood ( RIP ) was a big influence on his shooting though process. Den was the first to introduce the defensive position of talking hands and hands by the face which Geoff Thompson later adopted and called it the fence which is the mists widely used hand positions in Combatives . Den was definitely ahead of his time in the Self Defence, bodyguarding fields 👍🏻

[@MbisonBalrog]

What they fight under Queensberry or bare knuckle?

[@waldi1339]

Maybe without rules?

[@cm-oo1td]

Get alfie Lewis on

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

🙏

[@cm-oo1td]

​@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442I remember seeing all these lot at martial arts events in the 80s, can't remember seeing Steven french at any though,

[@GordonGrealishPalmer]

Nobody knows of Spiers and o'neill competition record. But I bet they were unbeaten against drunks smaller than them.

[@matdunsford526]

Overacted is the Devil him not actually knowing how to fight Karate is a minimal martial art

[@Benny18-18]

Any older dockers or seaman remember the potentially violent Johnny Linus the gay fireman/ stoker who sailed Liverpool in earlier days,I had the misfortune of meeting him as a callow 16 year old on a bombed site near the Old Spanish Wine house opposite St John’s Gardens in the early 1970s, a scary incident

[@simonwilletts7965]

Sounds like they should make a short film about him....sounds interesting

[@kevinsloan345]

No respect for anyone who hits another man because he had a natural talent to give someone a right good belting, on tap ???😊

[@Icecold-os1vs]

Frenchy biggest liar ever to come out of Liverpool, the stories just get sooooooooooo over exaggerated he’s a terrible liar ( 40 body builders , 😂😂 aswell as the 300 when he was on the grafton

[@terryhall7697]

He does stretch it a bit but back in the 80s him and his boys were ruthless , I grew up at the top of smithdown/ lodge lane and I can remember them terrorising people

[@tanglewood777]

i recall all great karataka in 80 90 s frenchy wernt one of them

[@daveywhyte6254]

You think you could get terry on billy? That would be interesting

[@monitor4728]

Why you think working men who work 9 to 5 jobs are hard men and not trained fighters

[@daveywhyte6254]

@@monitor4728 what

[@monitor4728]

@@daveywhyte6254 you think men who work 9 to 5 are hard men 🤷🏽

[@monitor4728]

@@daveywhyte6254 WHAT 👀

[@daveywhyte6254]

@@monitor4728 what are you going on about pal, hard men in every walk of life

[@vinnyvincent2862]

I think he meant Way of the Dragon 🐉

[@Imfat8888]

my clubbing days were RJ's and Chelsea reach new brighton, RJ's was better,

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

Gary worked the Chelsea with Dennis Martin who was head Doorman at the time early 80,s 👍👍 carn,t comment if Terry was 🤔 probably did as the 3 amigos , Dennis , Terry and Gary were close back in the day 🤫🤫

[@eugenevictortooms4174]

Napoleon Dynamite would slap the sh*t out of Frenchy.

[@LeeCooper-kd2lh]

Slaney done frenchy in jail droped him with a combo

[@HarryBooth-ow9lb]

The New Zealander was a very hard man

[@anthonykeogh8280]

Think of all the poor lads they battered and put in hospital

[@mattyburrows9059]

I done a bit of training with gary..did alot with mick walsh too..who was just as hard as gary..now its all gay mma..nearly as funny as that game of tip they call wacko😂

[@GordonGrealishPalmer]

Lee Siner would have flattened both at once.

[@Bereal711]

Was Gary spiers Australian

[@Theoriginalbigbrillo]

Maori New Zealander Budd 👍👍

[@GordonGrealishPalmer]

These karate guys would just get taken down by a kid with 1 year bjj training.

[@kevthegoat8774]

Gary Spiers had wrestling training and just about any Martial Art as he took what he felt was most effective for street situations. He was a bodyguard and bouncer in several different countries. I train in BJJ and I highly doubt someone with 1 year of training would have done anything to Gary Spiers in a street situation, also a lot of BJJ guys have terrible takedowns.

[@Dano2-tb4pd]

I'm waiting to know why he is supposed to hate white people?✝️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@swastikausa]

goju ryu is mr miyagis style.

[@Lfcwalters]

The leasowe lads ran you off the rjs door frenchy you never came back after that

[@LIVERPOOLandFARBEYONDNEWS]

Haha your funny. The lebb lads couldn't even run a bath. They was only dangerous when all together in the oyster

[@Gj-uk2ir]

noew way broew

[@Lfcwalters]

@@LIVERPOOLandFARBEYONDNEWS am not from leasowe but the whole of Wallasey know that he was told to go otherwise there was gonna be no doors left to protect and he was never seen again

[@philiplewis7572]

40 bodybuilders 😂😂😂 does lifting weights mean u can fight that’s a new 1 on me 😂😂😂

[@AthelstanEngland]

'Deadliest' or 'most deadly' not 'most deadliest' come on grammar is important!

[@JohnJones-g3r]

This video was supposed be about terry an gary not the dirty bullying nounce grass

[@paulk8275]

No scouser can take a tough London fella full stop Roy Shaw lenny McLean spring to mind where was the scouse competition then

[@tonywilson4339]

lenny mclean use ask gary spiers for back up on big debit colleting jobs . all the london hard men knew gary spiers and terry oniel

[@michaelangel25]

It’s not down to regionality. There’s always someone, somewhere who is harder than someone else. Your ego is feeling threatened. Control it.

[@josephtimson8469]

As a Scouser can't deny it doesn't get much scarier than than Lenny McLean and Roy Shaw that is true

[@Arfabiscuit]

Saw Paul get his head knocked off in prison he bullied the wrong guy and got smashed

[@THEDOGSBALLARDS]

Paul ??

[@spudhead1161]

??

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

Who’s Paul? I think you’re on the wrong channel mate.

[@spudhead1161]

Ronnie Pickering?

[@stdomingoblues1187]

@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442haha

[@leegsy]

Way of the Dragon, not Enter the Dragon

[@wayneholland4703]

👍

[@Andy246.]

They did what they needed to do in a narrow doorway, closed the door? 😂😂

[@turquoisecat761]

Gareee Shhhpiers

[@00L000]

That old karate style wouldn’t last a second vs MuayThai 😅

[@kevthegoat8774]

Kyokushin Karate beat Muay Thai 2-1 in the 60's

[@00L000]

@@kevthegoat8774 lucky we aren’t in the 1960’s anymore then 🤭

[@GordonGrealishPalmer]

Wouldn't do shit in ufc.

[@PaulJames-j9n]

Can't they find something important to talk about... don't glorify thuggery

[@jakehope6811]

Yeah yeah yeah right rrrrrrightt

[@StigFerrari]

Terry O’Neil was Arnold’s body double in Conan, and was actually bigger than him

[@monitor4728]

😂😂😂😂bollocks mate Terry was Arnold’s mate yrs ago but that story is utter SHITE 😂

[@rbrb288]

BELLEND central

[@thekopjames3889]

2 rat grasses in one room

[@warrenbrennan2915]

Haaaaaaaa

[@theallornothingpodcastwith4442]

👀

[@philippevie3258]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂so funny