Tesla Chief Designer Franz von Holzhausen | Season 7 Episode 1 | The InEVitable

MotorTrend's Ed Loh & Jonny Lieberman chat with Tesla Chief Designer - Franz von Holzhausen! Franz tells us about his path to Tesla, designer challenges, the prototype reveal in 2009, MotorTrend giving the Model S "Car of the Year" in 2013, his eureka moment, over-the-air updates, the genesis of the Cybertruck, building toward a sustainable future, towing & cold weather issues, the supercharging network, media pushback & disinformation, the semi-truck, and much more! Get the full story here ➡️bit.ly/3JNUnAM
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[@getreal7217]

Thanks for doing such a great job on this interview with Franz. I didn't realize how passionate he is with Tesla's overall mission from the his start with Tesla. Also really like that Franz still delivers cars personally to customers. His humility and desire to keep learning to improve his craft showed through.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching!

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

Just met a guy from Ukraine who drives a 2015 Model S. Just had a great conversation between Tesla owners. Nothing else mattered. Not where I am from. Not where he is from. Not that I live in a peaceful country and he escaped war. The instant connection Tesla creates is magic.

[@ihurtyourbrain3685]

family 😁

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@Yachtzeee]

Franz will go down as one of the all time greats. Minimalists beautiful, efficient design.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@StormyDog]

Absolutely a top tier interview with an industry legend.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@davemilke3110]

I tried to listen to this while I did housework due to its length. I was so blown away that I found myself returning to my screen just so that could add the body/facial responses to the dialogue. All you guys did an awesome job - I don't know how I could have been more impressed - great questions and great answers. Yes. [Please] do this again and cover the things left out due to time. I will be here for that.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching, and yes, we'd love to have Franz back on. Your comments will help.

[@streetmoney21]

The Tesla team is incredible. Their software is the best hands down. Their charging network is the best. Their vehicles are joy to drive. Never have a seen a automaker constantly improve a vehicle after they sold it to a customer for free until Tesla did it forcing others to follow. The best engineering available on market today everyone else is 10 years behind

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

Lucid Motors is pretty amazing (and leading technically in some areas). We'll see if they live up to expectations.

[@jamesmoss56]

@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO sounds like PR. what areas are they leading in?

[@jonnylieberman]

Cars

[@Mistermackey]

I respect that Franz is still doing customer deliveries to see the excitement and possibly learn how to make the product better.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@vancity2349]

Loved this interview. Here in Vancouver BC Canada 🇨🇦 where we have very high gas prices and very low electrical costs, Tesla’s are everywhere here too. As well there are a ton of super chargers and non Tesla chargers, its crazy. My wife has model 3 and it has been great and exceeded our expectations.

[@DrDawdy]

I am out in Surrey. Both our Superchargers are in Guildford as far as I am aware. Would like to see more around Surrey and Langley. The price difference between gas and electricity here does make Tesla's quite compelling though.

[@DrDawdy]

Looks like they just added one in Langley. Answered my prayers before I even finished typing lol

[@sebinsunnyjoseph4249]

Hey , how is the ICBC insurance for a Tesla model 3 , does it cost more than gas car

[@vancity2349]

@@sebinsunnyjoseph4249 I dont really know, best to call ICBC as many factors apply to insurance costs

[@glenistergrotj3022]

I’m in Coquitlam and my dad has a model 3. My dad has to commute to work in Surrey daily, the gas savings pay the car off.

[@terciocouceiro6535]

0:00-2:30: Introduction to Franz von Holzhausen, Chief Designer at Tesla. 2:30-7:40: Discussion on Tesla's design philosophy, which prioritizes sustainability, performance, and aesthetics. 7:40-12:15: Holzhausen talks about the challenges of designing EVs, including battery placement and weight distribution. 12:15-18:10: Holzhausen discusses the unique features of Tesla vehicles, such as the Autopilot system and the minimalist interior design. 18:10-23:45: Discussion on the importance of innovation in EV technology, including battery advancements and charging infrastructure. 23:45-29:25: Holzhausen shares insights on the future of transportation, including the potential for autonomous driving and shared mobility. 29:25-33:30: Discussion on the environmental impact of EVs and Tesla's efforts to promote sustainability. 33:30-36:45: Holzhausen talks about the challenges and opportunities of designing for mass production in the automotive industry. 36:45-40:50: Discussion on the role of design in shaping consumer preferences and driving adoption of EVs. 40:50-42:30: Holzhausen shares his passion for creating compelling designs that inspire people to embrace sustainable transportation. 42:30-45:10: Conclusion and closing remarks.

[@Steven-996]

Nice. What prompt did you give chat gpt to make these?

[@jg5875]

Thank you for making this!

[@terciocouceiro6535]

@@Steven-996 please provide a breakdown of the sections of the following video -- Tesla Chief Designer Franz von Holzhausen | Season 7 Episode 1 | The InEVitable with time stamps

[@ricokaatz6456]

Franz von Holzhausen: "We are kind of on the cusp of full autonomy in driverless cars. It's kind of around the corner, it's right there (smiles)." [1:41:20-1:41:32]

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"It's right around the corner..... WAITING for me!"

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@Berretotube]

Humble, talented guy - impressive ✊

[@darrenchin8492]

exactly. i can feel he is humble, nice and talented guy

[@lemongavine]

How can you not hire someone named Franz von Holzhausen? Doesn’t matter what the job is. Just hire him.

[@bernios3446]

Ha, sounds like he is american, but the name certainly is totally like from an aristocratic german family from the 17th century. Or austrian for the matter.

[@andrewsaint6581]

Exactly right.

[@therJrep]

🧐

[@khoatran415]

​@@therJrepLol

[@therJrep]

@@khoatran415 thanks for coming I’ll be here all week 🎤

[@SolvieCapital]

Thank you for this. Best interview of von Holzhausen I have seen thus far, inspiring, and conveys so much hope for a future of purposeful beauty.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@IrisMotion]

I love to see media admitting they were wrong great interview thanks guys

[@GOVAUS1]

Love Franz. What a guy! Thank you for this interview.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@sandyt4343]

I had no idea going in to this interview I would become an admirer to Franz, but I have to say, he is the most enjoyable person I’ve seen in interview to date. And both of your interview styles worked perfectly with him because you didn’t interrupt him or do anything but enhance the quality of the interview. Excellent job all around.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thank you for watching.

[@Bartender_Bill]

Don’t forget - a “truck driver” does more than just push pedals and turn a wheel. So many don’t understand a driver/operator is still a mobile warehouse manager and all the physical and intellectual attributes such a position requires. Though drivers will use autonomous driving to transport, they will still be needed. For some time … until Optimus offers alternative options 😅

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Might see drivers ("managers") at the head and tail of a 10 truck convoy?

[@robertt1336]

Great interview. He seems to have done some great work! Very well spoken and humble

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for the support!

[@davidbeppler3032]

I live in Missouri, I saw 13 Teslas in 15 minutes driving home. By 2030 it will be interesting seeing 13 cars that are not Teslas in a 15 minute drive.

[@dinojohn1]

How perfect. And so it shall be

[@jryan1024]

I live in Marin County, CA. Today I counted 29 Teslas in my brief 2 mi drive from the freeway to my house. In California the OEM car dealers are so under trafficked and understocked that I thought they were closed. Indeed, many are closing down but Tesla service centers are proliferating.

[@colinwp8285]

The fundamental design theme of Porsche has not really changed in decades (aka the 911). So why do people think the model S needs a major style change?

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Don't start with LOGIC!! 😉👍

[@EdwardLoh]

Fundamental design in that the engine is at the back, but that's about it. There have been roughly eight completely new 911s, (new = entirely new sheetmetal, chassis, and engine upgrades) since the first 911 was introduced. Since the second generation 911, these new models have come out about every 5 years, which is in line with how all other major car manufacturers update there product lines. That's the basis of this question; yes, we know Tesla is a disruptor and thinks different, but the original Model S is now over 10 years. Will they do a full model changeover? If so, when? And I count myself as a fan of the flagship design; it still looks very fresh. And yes, sales are good now, but wouldn't we think they'd be even better with a new one? What if it had Cybertruck [or beyond] styling - look at the excitement CT generated... etc. etc. Thanks for watching.

[@isipwater]

Long time Tesla fan here. First time watching this channel. Franz has so many good stories and lessons to share. Next time, I hope the guest gets more space to share without interruptions. Not a lot of new information but a fun listen.

[@favesongslist]

Yet so glad to hear the Roadster 2 is coming, particularly given it no longer appears on any pf the slides presented recently showing the Tesla range.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@favesongslist I think it was in the investor day slides.... If you REALLY look.

[@favesongslist]

@@rogerstarkey5390 TY, most of the slides I rember did not have it.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@ken830]

I remember the first video/images I saw of the Whitestar and it was exciting. When I placed a reservation in 2012 and took delivery in early 2013, I was so proud to own that vehicle. It is, by far, the best purchase I have ever made.

[@EdwardLoh]

Whitestar! You've been a longtime follower!

[@ken830]

​@@EdwardLoh Yes, indeed! I used to pore over every issue of Motortrend in my teen years and looked forward to the CotY article each year, so I was stoked when the Model S won! I worked on Sand Hill Road in the late 2000s & early 2010s and saw Roadsters on my way to/from work, but wasn't able to afford a Tesla until Gen2 (my Model S). Hope you guys can re-book Franz for a follow-up chat! Thanks!!

[@stewartallison8848]

Wow that interview left me speechless. Now I know why I have a model M3P. I felt like I was watching an epic film and it finished half way through. Please try and repeat this interview with a million more questions. Stewy

[@EdwardLoh]

Thank you for watching.

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

🚀🚀🚀 *Epic interview!* Franz seems like such a humble and nice guy. ♥

[@hahtos]

Absolutely amazing. FVH will go down in history as the guy who designed the model T EV

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching,.

[@musondao]

Franz is exceptional. His name is officially among the stars in the universe

[@rayRay-pw6gz]

Except when he broke THE WINDOW on Cybertruck . LOL ✌️👍

[@earnmyturns6305]

The guts Franz had to up and leave a cushy job in big name companies to join obscure ones over and over again in order to stay true to his own values, quality, sustainability. It reminded me of Joseph Campbell and his admonition to youg folks “follow your bliss”. He is a trend blitzer, his designs, so surprising to begin with, are now copied by everyone else: the large screen in the middle of the console, everyone does it that way now, the uncluttered interior, the grill-less front. I am jealous of such clarity of purpose in steering one’s life.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching!

[@danwright6529]

I have a new Tesla roadster ordered since 2018, do you think I'll get it in my lifetime ?( I'm 90 years old now)

[@EdwardLoh]

Good question.

[@martinguila]

As a train driver I think it is interesting that people can talk about the design of the semi without saying the obvious. It looks very much like a train from both the outside but also from the inside with the center seat, double screens etc.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Very good points.

[@dscarty]

Frantz is funny, off the cuff “A Tesla that’s normally aspirated.”

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@teslacarolina]

The haters of Tesla are on a payroll to throw shade! No one with half a brain would think Tesla was anything but amazing.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@paulwirkus260]

Franz, thank you so much!

[@jaygrabbe]

Awesome interview! I loved it, you guys hit his whole career, such exciting times in the automotive industry, I know it’s scary for some but the world is changing.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for the support!

[@MannyRomerosydney]

What is with so many Podcast hosts that keep interrupting their guest. So annoying!

[@jason8966]

I'd gladly take the interruptions if they had left Darth out of it

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching and for the feedback. We'll keep on trying to improve.

[@vaughnmoore4950]

The statement Fran’s made you have to experience a Tesla car,is so spot on.I’m 67 just bought model Y LW.Ordered sight unseen and net drove till after I signed for car.The car is incredible,I’m trying figure out the stretch to a x plaid.

[@nubliniwaserfaztman7119]

Watching this interview from Aruba. Great way to enjoy the beach. Watching the ocean while listening to Franz. Love my model y performance

[@drnick40]

The Solstice was gorgeous car. Too bad GM wasted it to poor marketing and execution. It could’ve been a classic lasting for decades just like the Miata…

[@hal3137]

Awesome Franz was so candid and a great interview from MotorTrend.

[@cbmusgrave]

Best episode yet! You need to bring him in for at least 2 more 2 hour episodes and keep working on wearing him down to divulge something...

[@EdwardLoh]

At least! He's tough though - polite and ready for our questions...

[@heinzn6272]

Thanks guys for the interview I’ve always been wanting to hear about the man and team that designed the future

[@GuyFromGeorgia]

Excellent interview, guys. I appreciate the depth you were able to reach.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@dccali5670]

Elon and his Tesla executives are so amazing. Leadership is so important to an organization. Franz is one of those great leaders. He's so talented yet so humble. Just like Elon.

[@adhoc9647]

Now, in retrospect, I think it would not be exaggeration to suggest that the folks at Tesla taking on the likes of (especially the German) automotive giants is comparable to David vs Goliath. A quest of truly by mythical proportions. Thank you, gentlemen, for a great seat at this Incredible drama.

[@pale4980]

What a great interview! Just one thought - Ed brought up that a lot of EVs have more power than really needed and that its not good for sustainability issues. But then he talks about the design getting long in the tooth. I think for sustainability's sake you want to keep a design as long as possible. Why change it as long as its functional. The most common reason for car companies to change the design is that they want to sell more cars and get people out of their old cars. That is so wasteful. Also - much better for resale values if you keep the design mostly unchanged. Mercedes used to be that way and now they and all others in the legacy car industry treat their design sort of like fast fashion. totally wasteful. I commend Tesla for hanging on to the designs. Like them or not - they still look fresh - that's a huge achievement by Franz!

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment and for watching the video. I probably say this in my head about once a week (or every time I see a Model S on the road): "Man what a great and timeless design. Especially from the rear 3/4 angle. Wide stamps. Sport, yet sophisticated. One of the best in history." BUT ALSO, I know how consumers shop and surely Tesla is losing out on some existing customers (who chase the new) or getting new customers who don't want what everyone else has (or something perceived as old). That's all I was saying. Franz (and Elon) are smart - surely they've done the analysis on what kind of sales an all-new Model S would bring. I mean, aren't you interested in what that could be? Thanks again.

[@RobertLBarnard]

Pontiac and Saturn were the only GM product lines I was interested in. The Solstice and Sky were a couple of the most outstanding models. GM killed it all.

[@goldreverre]

Would have been good to hear how design is now working in parallel with new manufacturing and production methods.

[@EdwardLoh]

That is a great question. Mega-casting, and all the gigafactories... We'll keep that in mind for round 2.

[@dkennell2]

Genius, great interview.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@favesongslist]

Glad to hear the Roadster 2 is coming on. Particularly given it no longer appears on any of the slides presented recently showing the Tesla lineup.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@aloisgastager6837]

Hey Guys, let Franz talk! Too many interruptions!

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for the support and for the feedback.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

Tesla is focused on their business plan. All other car makers are amazed that Tesla uses a business plan.

[@lighthousesaunders7242]

This could be world class if you edited in clips of all the cars under discussion. Just stills would make the world of difference.

[@billkohl449]

Fabulous Podcast great information and Franz and Tesla are the Best now and the Future of the world hands down! Go Tesla 👍👍

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for the support.

[@jeffnewcomb601]

The car as an app is quite possibly the second greatest innovation created by Tesla.

[@ev-mojo]

Franz is such a brilliant designer, the Model S, although it is now 13 years old, sill looks great on the road. It takes great skill to design something that is iconic AND timeless at the same time.

[@cathyk9197]

Great interview Jonny and Ed! Franz is auto design's GOAT! Might just faint from sheer joy if Franz delivers my Cybertruck someday! We both had transformational 💩experiences working inside GM's bureaucratic belly of the beast back in Detroit before escaping to OC

[@EdwardLoh]

Thank you for watching!

[@Indecisive7337]

Great conversation, thank you.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@michaelpaulholmes9667]

On the semi: "And how do we improve someone's livelihood. This is their office." "Yes, we will have full autonomy on the semi". :)

[@DanyPell]

LETS GO TESLA!

[@Kangenpower7]

A wonderful interview with Franz von Holzhausen! I wonder if he ever worked with my brother, who was also working at Ford from 1983 - 2017. His name is Ed Golden, and he reported directly to Jay Mays until Jay Mays retired.

[@vinumcopia9850]

1:55:29 Having Franz deliver my Tesla would be justification enough to order a Tesla.

[@mugpitz]

Great Job. Greetings from 🇩🇪

[@EdwardLoh]

Danke fürs zuschauen!

[@mugpitz]

​@@EdwardLoh ❤

[@andersn8547]

Such a cool interview - thanks guys.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@dmcaton]

Lots of world class automotive design experts in the comments

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching, and reading the comments!

[@Wolftrap101]

Fantastic guys. Really enjoyed this.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@documentappigoo6942]

humble guy

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@hillmans69]

When Tesla Semis are fully autonomous the cab can carry several Optimus robots for loading/unloading labor.

[@yeahbuddy92193911]

No cars have ever amazed me the way Tesla's do. Was never a car enthusiast until researching model 3 & Y. Never would have plunked down 53k on a car, but I got the Y and am still amazed by it after a year. Still learning all of the features and hidden tricks. I'll never not own a Tesla.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@theburackgroup3003]

Great interview with an awesome person.

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.

[@jimtoomey9522]

Frank is STILL PASSIONATE after 15 years of employment at Tesla and with a great deal of original successful designs that destroy the competition with the safest cars available on the planet ! He is not resting on his laurels after so much success, he is driven and happy designing the coolest products available !

[@davidmaxrock]

thank you all!

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

10/10

[@78katz]

Great get. Franz is a legend.

[@EdwardLoh]

He is thanks for watching!

[@Crazyreseller]

1:28:00 I currently own a 2016 Chevrolet Silverado LT and when I tow my boat my range is cut at least 50% and if there are hills/mountains it’s even more. In the winter range is reduced when I let my truck warm up and use the 4wd. Many of the old school truck users are luddites and don’t want change. I am looking forward to the CT and will most likely order one after I get a chance to drive it.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Imagine if the CT had 3 motors for "beast mode" but 2 of them disengaged for "cruising" (even when towing)? Has anyone done that before? 🤔 . ("Even on the range side, we're in a good position" 😉)

[@Crazyreseller]

@@rogerstarkey5390 I could see it being used like that. I’m sure the CT will have different drive modes similar to the cars. I have been waiting for the CT for awhile and hope it’s as good as all the hype. By the time the CT is in full production I will be ready for a new vehicle and I want it to be a CT.

[@edbruder9975]

@@rogerstarkey5390 Tesla does that in the semi.

[@CossackM3]

Powered Frunk for Model X & S is one way to improve the product. Why has this not been done yet, great interview guys.

[@whereistomm]

its 2023... timeline notes, topics. Please

[@EdwardLoh]

Good feedback. We'll get on it. Thanks for watching.

[@jg5875]

Someone else already posted time stamps in the comments

[@davidfellowes1628]

You never asked about robots. I bet his design team is involved

[@EdwardLoh]

Ran out of time. Missed a lot of other stuff. Thanks for watching.

[@samirshah5411]

Awesome interview!

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for the support.

[@SoCalVipers]

You guys did a really great job interviewing. I didn't know anything abut his past work - all beautiful cars. I really love his passion for design and the mission. I've been driving a Tesla for 7 years and I can't imagine having another car as my daily driver. Even though I think the Model S is beautiful, and timeless... there are too many on the road now. I do hope Franz can some up with something significantly different but equally beautiful. And if Franz is listening... here's my wish list: 1. Plaid model 3. More power than the performance, and serious track day suspension and brakes. 2. Affordable 2+2 roadster. I don't need, and can't afford a $250,000 super car, but I would love a good looking convertible with model 3 performance. My M4 feels so slow compared to any Tesla. 3. A leather steering wheel. I can live with fake seats, but I want to touch real leather when I drive.

[@ericsnapat3903]

Great interview! I’ve wondered why Tesla doesn’t purchase someone like Unplugged Performance and then have them be a company that tunes your car from the factory with special add-on? Although I guess it would bottleneck deliveries and add a lot of complexity? I just think it would be cool to order your car and get it with cool add-ons already installed.

[@jooptablet1727]

I think you answered your own question ;)

[@ericsnapat3903]

@@jooptablet1727 yeah. I just wish they offered more options. Oh well…

[@bishwassharma6640]

Franz is fan of UP and has modded his personal Tesla with UP products. Regular consumers don’t need UP level products for regular driving and that would add cost and complexity to the production line.

[@EdwardLoh]

Good question - we have had both Unplugged Performance and T-Sportline. Maybe that is their angle - to get acquired (like AMG by Mercedes-Benz.) Who knows? Thanks for the support!

[@francescogiacomelli403]

Thanks for uploading

[@Markus_Jungwirth]

Franz is such a great person... love to listen to him... he is already a living legend.

[@paulwinter9672]

Absolutely fantastic show!!!

[@EdwardLoh]

Thank you for watching.

[@Ab_Fern]

Franz has his finger squarely on the pulse of the future, and correctly, the current and upcoming generation's perception shift of transportation. There was a time when entering a vehicle was actually a choice, a choice defined by your taste in vehicles. That nostalgia, although many legacy mindsets are unnaturally forcing the concept to remain relevant, have lost the fight already, and don't even know it. Uber was the paradigm that made the shift of knowing the vehicle you were being seen in, as an associated status symbol -whether your friends, family, or someone taking you out- is now just a vehicle that takes me from A to B. You only are made aware of the type, because you need to recognise if that's the specific Uber ordered. Yes, it's still a thrill to hop in a lambo or Bentley, if you hop in a uber of that vehicle brand, but, there was a time that you would only dream of even actually driving in one of those, if a) you actually brought one, or b) you knew someone close enough willing to transport in one. Point being, a person really doesn't factor in what vehicle they're specifically riding in, when ubering. They hop in, get to where they're going, then get out. This is what Franz was emphasizing. Robotaxi, Autonomous driving with Tesla's FSD, in all of Tesla"s vehicle line up, will begin to be utilised much in the very same way, as are in the minds of current uber users -its just something that will get me from A to B in the most expedient and comfortable manner without too much of my own attention from being distracted or diverted away from what I wish to focus on whilst being transported. Simply, we will all become fed-exed packages. Why worry about having an operator mindset, when what's transporting you isn't yours and you only care about getting to your next appointment? So why worry about superficial design when being transported? How many of us who actually fly frequently, know the brand of Airbus or commercial plane that's transporting us, or care about its exterior design features? We have grown up in a generational acceptance that flying is not for basic users going from a to b, and so, this will become the very same reality to the generation who will be fully immersed in that paradigm and operating a vehicle will become as synonymous as any of us wanting to fly our own jet to transport ourselves. It'll be reserved only for those who hold to this era's idea of transportation ownership. In the future, they won't care. I'll be working two 4-hour shifts remotely with one break at a Tesla diner in a fsd vehicle, which will be so safe, with no abrupt stops or fear of accidents, as virtual shadow mode will predict all other fsd vehicles on the road and plot ahead to ensure a seamless travel experience, and finish my day on the West Coast, just coz I wanted to see the sunset the next morning with a date!

[@davidfellowes1628]

Loved it when you guys realised that to have constant change you will need to forego safety. The case for constant change was an OEM excuse to doing nothing.

[@davidfellowes1628]

Model change

[@VAXHeadroom]

What a history! Didn't know he had worked on the Furai - probably the most stunning car ever (IMHO). Great interview.

[@danielmarquis434]

Why is performance important to a cybertruck owner? Idk why does the F-150 raptor sell?

[@EdwardLoh]

Why does the regular F-150 outsell every Raptor by hundreds: 1? Price, use case, availability, etc. I think for the Cybertruck, the question most (at least we have) is delivering on overall performance over, say Rivian R1T and HummerEV, but then also under specific conditions that the other quicker-to-market EV trucks have suffered under - primarily in cold weather range and while towing. Thanks for watching.

[@spacecoasttesla]

Man some of these questions were beyond awful. Interviewers were extremely annoying. He was way more respectful than I could have been in that situation...

[@EdwardLoh]

Disagree, but thanks for sticking it out.

[@hornprof46]

@@EdwardLoh why do you think Tesla needs to add a new shaped taillight or sculpt a fender to set the present model from other years. That's very OEM thinking IMO. I just traded my 2017 model S for a Y Performance. As I was driving home from picking it up I saw 8 new model Y's in 20 miles not counting the numerous Y's and model 3's. The Model Y was the 5th best selling car in the world (just behind the Ford F-150) so I believe there are a lot of people like me who don't care that someone has the same car. Just my thoughts. I enjoyed the podcast immensely

[@EdwardLoh]

@@hornprof46 Yours is a good question. Post WWII when the auto industry really took off, fueled by the baby boom, car makers, mostly American at the time, were changing bodystyles, full sheet metal changeovers, every year. It was nuts! But it drove sales - "See the new Chevys for '57!" We're obviously not doing that anymore - for a lot of reasons (mostly cost - tooling is very expensive). And yes, Tesla has shown/is showing, perhaps, how long you can go without a full/traditional exterior styling upgrade. But as an industry watcher, I wonder what they might be "leaving on the table" - the casual (non hardcore) Tesla owner might be bored and want something new (that's natural, it's why we buy new shoes, clothes, and other consumer goods). Is there some subset of EV owners or new intenders who would happily buy an "ALL NEW MODEL S?" Even as I write that, I get a little buzz. Imagine what a Gen 2 Model S or X could be? Look how snazzy Gen 2 Roadster concept looked. Surely others feel the same. Longer term question: as more EVs come to market, and range anxiety, recharge time and performance all become commodities (that is, no one worries about how far you can go or how long it takes to drive, and all EVs are fast, quiet, etc.), the only thing that will set car makers apart is the experience they deliver - styling is one, UX in the vehicle is the other... What I mean is a Ferrari EV will be different from a Porsche EV from a Lamborghini EV from a Tesla how?? Styling becomes more more important in my mind; differentiating on UX is obviously critical... That's it. Swirling thoughts.

[@darkairieal]

@@EdwardLoh I mean the Volkswagen beetle was largely unchanged for 30years design wise. Not saying the model S is as Iconic but a single design can last a long time. They probably won't _have_ to differentiate much at all for a while. The 2016 nose job was only 7 years ago. Absolutely people love new and novel, I think tesla cares more about their mission though maybe. Perhaps they will refresh the model S/X when they retool the Fremont Factory to match the texas or mexico production process.

[@alolsen339]

Halfway through the video and wonder when we will learn more about Holzhausen, how he thinks and creates etc vs. the interviewers name checking a bunch of unknown people, and bragging about the people who they have previously interviewed. Pretty light weight so far - I hope it improves.

[@EdwardLoh]

Hope it got better for you. We try to explain as we go, but many of the names we name check (J Mays, Freeman Thomas, Sang Yup Lee, Derrick Jenkins, Wayne Cherry, Bob Lutz, etc.) aren't unknown to fans of automotive design and the industry writ large. And yes, we interviewed them prior (Freeman, SYL and Derrick) on prior episodes, which would be familiar to regular listeners or interesting to those who want to know more. Thanks for watching.

[@alolsen339]

@@EdwardLoh it did improve! I found the rest of the show fascinating and validated my Tesla stock and model s plaid ownership. Industrial creativity and design are impressive and Tesla and Apple remain heads and shoulders above the rest in that regard, in my opinion of course. Be well and I will be looking forward to more of your stuff.

[@paulrybarczyk5013]

Would love to see a similar MotorTrend deep-dive covering Aptera. Similar levels of innovation.

[@EdwardLoh]

Great suggestion. We're working on it!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS FOR SHARING THIS 🤗👍🧐 VERY INTERESTING…LOOKING FORWARD TO PART 2💚💚💚

[@silverc4s146]

Good talk. Thanks for doing this/

[@koomaj]

This was great. Only thing that little bit bothered me was the hosts talking too much, and not lettting Franz really verbalize his ideas fully in some topics.

[@dajusta87]

It's easy to see where the future is, boys!

[@lakersalex]

El Niño explained better than a local tv news meteorologist has any business doing!

[@Adelegard]

This was such a delight. Thank you!

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for the support!

[@mikesamyn7054]

The front of the Model 3, Y and the X to some extent reminds me of Robot Gort in the 1951 movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" . And I realy liked the no grill effect.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The best grill is no grill!

[@beekeeper937]

when it come to design. Could this be like we used to have 30 different kind of cell phones but now day, there is the iPhone and everything else. Maybe cars will be just like how the phone have evolved.

[@EdwardLoh]

Interesting perspective. I agree but also think it would make the world rather boring. Thanks for watching.

[@beekeeper937]

@@EdwardLoh I certainly agree given what we so used to right now how we like all the variety and personalization of our cars. Maybe another analogy is how there are all those PC and Laptops but what most people preferred these days is a those beautifully simple design of an Apple MacBook. Especially once FSD is a reality then we are willing to trade off the function vs form. People sure will still be free to chose the alternatives vehicle but it will for sure be more of a novelty vs most people will be prioritizing the function and comfort to get from point A to point B while being entertain or working or even sleeping.

[@archivtv5460]

To Franz: When you bring in a great TSLA Espressomachine into the car? Don’t forget serve an additional cup of cold (very good) water (implement grander system or better) in a 2nd cup (Vienna style). I put down on cyber truck Europa at first demo. Would be nice find it there when delivery in Switzerland starts. Best, Harry, Bern - Montreux Suisse.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Dont on one hand say "911" such that a timeless icon shall be discounted from the argument "Theres a business case for saying there should be substantial change" when at the same time miss the fact Tesla is right now creating an icon with the Model S. Tesla cant pull a 40 years of history rabbit out the hat but time will tell were as likely living in a time when that Model S icon is clearly in the process of being born.

[@EdwardLoh]

Agree I think. Tesla is unconventional and has broken many rules, but sure there will come a time when even the first, flagship model will need to be completely reborn. Or maybe not? That was the question - and it goes against over a hundred years of auto production. Thanks for watching.

[@edwardcrump7735]

really, really good guys. As a Tesla nerd, it is insightful to peer between the cracks

[@EdwardLoh]

Thanks for watching.