Tesla Model 3 - Tire Rotation

[@Scott-sm9nm]

Excellent usage of the video inserts when using the jack! 3:33 - in fact, what really makes this video great is all the clear camera angles. That is a bunch of work.

[@cbkaras]

I’ve watched a dozen videos on this topic and this one is the best by far. Thank you!

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

1:00 do not use torque wrench to loosen bolts. 2:22 loosening bolts with torque wrench. I am sure they were already loosened before recording, but the demonstration should follow the instruction. Other than that, good video. I'm gonna do the hockey puck adapter and rotate mine soon.

[@MTNRanger]

Yea, I mention that mistake in another comment. I now use a breaker bar for loosening nuts.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Great video showing how easy this is to do! The tools will pay for themselves after a few rotations. Some chain store tire shops will rotate for free, but they might not use a jack pad and they use pneumatic guns to loosen and tighten the bolts. They probably won’t use a torque wrench, either and I’ve heard that these air tools might warp the brake rotors. I always give my wheel and tire a good washing before reinstalling. It’s so easy!

[@MTNRanger]

Thanks. It really does pay off if you have multiple vehicles too.

[@r56mini]

I was curious if one jack would do the job and the video answered my question. Thank you!

[@northeastev]

Same here, FYI OP has rear motor version. It didn't seem to matter where you lift from, front or rear on my dual motor. Car is stiff!!!

[@mlee6050]

as long as it on a jack as they not recommend it on hydraulic jack alone in case it has issue or something happens and it cause accident

[@AKTesla]

@@mlee6050 how would you get a stand where the rear jack is?

[@markwagner3376]

I thought that the chucks should be placed on the front of the front wheel and the back of the back wheel as your method could roll forward with both chucks going the same way??? Thanks for the ideas and video.

[@MTNRanger]

True if it was flat. My driveway leans the other way.

[@hua96]

This guy knows how to make a good informative video !

[@robertknox1991]

I hope you realize that chocking both tires behind the tire allows the car to roll forward, thereby negating their safety aspect.

[@MTNRanger]

True if it was flat. My driveway leans the other way. But I see your point.

[@harmotten]

@@MTNRanger Fair point, but to be a good example for others, I suggest using one chock before and the other behind one of the opposite wheels.

[@kevingriffith3801]

2x4 wedged under a wheel with a plastic mallet works the best. Some travel (

[@gilmiddlebrooks533]

Question: Can you safely use a jack stand with a "hockey puck" adapter or do you need the rectangular one like your red one?

[@MTNRanger]

You can use any of the adapters on the jack stands.

[@crosenbe1]

@@MTNRanger I

[@reknas78]

Wait, did he loosen the bolts with the torque wrench?

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, I mentioned that in one of the captions. I forgot to use my breaker bar. Fortunately, it was my backup torque wrench.

[@MichaelPateras]

@@MTNRanger Why is that bad? Is it just really rough on the torque wrench?

[@MTNRanger]

@@MichaelPateras It is possible that it may cause the torque wrench to go out of spec.

[@hanzelnuts8446]

Fantastic video. Very informative. Thank you. 👍

[@MaxHasManyHobbies]

Great video, thanks. Why did you spin the socket after each torque of the wheel? Do you have to reset anything in the computer after rotation since the tire pressure sensors have been moved?

[@MTNRanger]

I spin it out of habit. The car automatically assigns the correct sensor positions.

[@joonkim1289]

i have a 21 tesla model3LR AWD. some say do the X pattern and some say front to back and back to front. what is the correct way? the front to back and back to front?

[@MTNRanger]

The X pattern for AWD (Left rear goes to right front, Right rear goes to the left front, Right front goes to left rear, Left front goes to the right rear) typically gives the best results. Note if you have directional tires, just rotate front to rear.

[@DacAL_8]

Will the AWD performance model front end lift up when the rear is jack up? I need to do this soon.

[@MTNRanger]

Good question, even though the front end is heavier with the motor, I think it will work just the same. When I lift my RWD from the front jack point, the rear goes up exactly the same.

[@DacAL_8]

@@MTNRangerThank you!

[@DacAL_8]

@@MTNRanger Yes, the AWD front goes up when you jack the rear. I just did it today. Appreciate it much!

[@paulbode762]

Great video. Thank you. I have a Model Y that weighs 4500 lbs and I only have a 1.5 ton hydraulic jack. Could I still use that? 3000 lbs is still more than half the car. I would use a jack stand for sure as well.

[@MTNRanger]

I would recommend a 2 or 3 ton low profile floor jack.

[@MrTubbbz]

You can easily use a 1.5 ton jack. The tire itself can only handle around 800kg. The rest of the weight og the car is divided between three wheels

[@IverKnackerov]

@@MrTubbbz Errr….you did see that two wheels were off the ground in this video???

[@AKTesla]

What if i need to leave the model 3 on stands for a couple of days with 2 of the wheels off. Can i put a stand in one corner and a jack in the other corner like you did?

[@MTNRanger]

For an extended period of time I would not rely on the floor jack solely. Due to having two jack points on each side, there is no safe way to put two normal jack stands while using a floor jack. I would suggest getting Safejack Rennstands or Jackpoint Jack stands for this situation.

[@burningdinosaurs801]

Have a good evening!!Thanks

[@rsxfreak03]

So they sell these pads in a set of 4 but only one can be utilized at a time?

[@MTNRanger]

You can buy/make single adapters. When I went to Discount Tire for my replacement tires, I put all four adapters on the car so they didn't mess up the battery pack area.

[@cpF01]

Recommend setting the parking brake.

[@MTNRanger]

Parking brake is automatic in a Tesla.

[@upstate_living3155]

So model 3s you don’t have to put in jack mode? Like the model s

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, the Model 3 and Y do not have a jack mode.

[@gordontyler9317]

Thanks! So there is no difference between the RWD and AWD in terms of frequency or process? I have about 7,500 miles on my AWD TM3 now. Was going to take it to my preferred tire shop, but I have to check if they have experience and the jack pads. I have one from a brake caliper cover kit. It looks like you can get away with just one if you don't use those jack stands. A friend of mine reminded me that it's important to check for even tire wear and get your wheels aligned if you notice any uneven wear. How did yours look?

[@MTNRanger]

I'm going to cover that in my next video that talks about tire wear. RWD tires wear more in the rear and probably need rotation more frequently than AWD. My tire tread was 8/32" new. At 6500 miles, I had 6/32" in the rear and 7/32" in the front. At 13,500 miles, I now have 4/32" in the rear and 4.5/32" in the front. If I didn't rotate at 6500 miles, I would have to replace the rears by now. I'll probably be buying new tires in late summer before they reach 2/32". I would recommend buying (or making) 4 jack pad adapters and keep them in the car for emergencies, inspections, tire shops. I'll be covering the adapters in a third video.

[@hx3169]

@@MTNRanger Thanks for the video. Just noticed our RWD has 7/32 in the front and 5/32 in the rear at 7400 mi. I've got one low profile jack like yours, and was going to buy another one since my other jack is too tall, but didn't realize you could do it with one until I saw your video. Thanks for saving me $100 for another jack (and the garage space). And the tip for the deep socket.

[@MTNRanger]

@@hx3169 Thanks. I'm doing my third rotation next week at 18,000 miles. I'm at 3.5-4/32". I'll be covering my replacement tires at some point this coming winter.

[@hx3169]

@@MTNRanger Good to know how many miles to expect out of the tires. The rate of tire wear is something I didn't expect. I'm used to getting 35-40K miles out of OEM tires assuming the alignment is up to snuff. Will you be getting OEM tires? Or comparison shopping? Any thoughts on the foam inside?

[@MTNRanger]

@@hx3169 I recently talked to a mobile service tech and asked him about tire wear. He is seeing anywhere from 20k to 35k miles. A lot depends on wheel size, tire type (all season vs summer), tire treadwear rating, driving style, highway (less wear) vs local, AWD vs RWD, tire inflation, etc. Mine are all season Michelin Primacy MXM4 235/45-18 and brand new come with 8/32" tread. Most tires come with 10 to 12/32" tread, so already, the tire is at a disadvantage. I'm looking at the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus and the Michelin Crossclimate+. Regarding the foam, it is supposed to help with noise, but I have heard people haven't noticed much of a difference when they switched to different tires.

[@sarienti12]

You talk about rechecking the torque after 50 miles. How do you go about that? Loosen them to a lower torque (100lbs/ft??) and then tighten again back to 129 lbs/ft?

[@MTNRanger]

No do not loosen them. Just set the torque wrench to 129 and tighten them again. If the nuts are at the correct setting, the wrench will "click". Basically you are checking to make sure they haven't loosened.

[@toddpeterson4457]

The wheels are held on by nuts not bolts.

[@MTNRanger]

Thanks, sorry for the slip of the tongue.

[@wiboater4]

Where did you get the adapter for the jack stand?

[@MTNRanger]

I used the rectangle adapter shown at the beginning. It's not specifically made for the jack stand, but it is long and covers the top of it. I'm going to post another video listing the adapters I have purchased and tested.

[@astroplutonium]

The Tesla wheels are unidirectional as far as i know. You switched front-back, you did not ''rotate'' the wheels. Is that what they do in the service centre? Have you observed it your self or asked them of the exact procedure?

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, I watched the mobile service do my first rotation. Yes, they move the wheels front to back on each side. They use one floor jack, which makes cross mounting impossible. There is confirmation of this by other owners. teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tire-rotation-frequency-and-pattern.140909/

[@liem376]

Good video, MTN Ranger. I didn't know we can lift both front and rear wheels by using just one floor jack at the rear. I had been using 2 jacks on my last 2 rotations. But not anymore. Thanks to you. However, I think you set the torque to 139 lb-ft because you went 9 lbs above the 130 marker. The actual marker is where the pointer (looks like an escalator) touches the center line. The manufacturers print the numbers slightly above their markers so the whole numbers are in view when we set them. If the numbers are right at (across from) their markers, the handle will block half of them and make them hard to see. Quite a few KZbin channels have good instructions on how to set the torque wrench. Keep up the good works!

[@MTNRanger]

I looked at that part of the video. Yes, I did make the mistake of not using the lower mark for the 130 increment. I'll make note for a future update. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@toddg9956]

Hello Tesla service tech came out and did a cross pattern tire rotation at 6250 on my AWD model 3 ? now I'm at 12K any suggestions ? Thank you in advance.

[@MTNRanger]

I have seen most owners reporting front-to-back rotations. It's hard to say since Tesla seems to change things without letting people know. Cross pattern is probably better, but more work.

[@toddg9956]

Thank You ! I'm having Costco do it for like 20 bucks with a balance I have the lift supports.

[@lowhombre]

why are you using your torque wrench to loosen bolts after you specifically said not to use TW?

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, the on screen text at 2:34 says to use a breaker bar (which I didn't have at the time of shooting) to loosen the nuts.

[@hybrid_ctsv6470]

Anyone have a link to the proper lift pad adapters?

[@MTNRanger]

The description of my adapter video has a few: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baPNiYKlmtuEg80

[@dadaboy2]

Please help... when do you know you need a tire rotation ?

[@MTNRanger]

I would suggest getting a tire depth gauge. Measure the tread depth of all four tires in at least five locations. If the front tires average 1/32” difference from the rear tires, it’s a good idea to rotate. amzn.to/3foWTzV

[@gioserg]

Genius

[@KiNg-xl8gd]

Are you using the torque wrench to loose the lug nuts?

[@MTNRanger]

You are supposed to use a breaker bar (which I didn't have at the time of the video).

[@mana1111]

Don't think it was a good idea to leave the jack stand under while u lifted higher....if the car drops due to your jack rolling then it will most likely do some damage. It might even puncture the battery and cause a fire. Hopefully others see this and avoid. Take the jack stand back out, lift until ready to stick it under again. Another question, is it a thing to lift the car on one corner? When the service guy came to do your car did he also lift on one corner? I plan to do my own rotations and I only have 1 jack. I rather buy another jack if lifting on one corner isn't standard procedure with the Tesla mobile service.

[@MTNRanger]

Yes, one jack on either front or rear jackpoint will lift the whole side. Maybe it’s not visible in the video, when I use jack stands, there is a jack pad adapter that fits the jack point. So there is no issue of puncturing. Using two floor jacks is an option too.

[@mana1111]

@@MTNRanger When lifting there was a short time that your jack didn't fit under the adapter yet and u left it at an unprotected area while you continued to lift the car higher so that you can fit the stand under the pad. I just want to point that out so we can be safer when lifting. Great video by the way. I will try to rotate the wheels myself at 10k miles. Cybertruck incoming....I am waiting for the event to start =)

[@MTNRanger]

Oh, I see where now at 5:03. To be 100% safe, yes, the jack stand should have stayed away from the car until it fully fit under the jack point.

[@LaPaFa]

Tom Nook .

[@northeastev]

Is this single or dual motor?

[@MTNRanger]

NorthEastEV it is single motor, which explains why I have more wear in the rear wheels than front. Dual motor tends to have more even wear, but it does have a rear wheel bias.

[@northeastev]

@@MTNRanger Thx, I just did tire rotation on my 3, My question was towards figuring out where do I want jack placed, front or rear on dual motor 3 (slightly heavier in the front vs your rear moror) Ended up lifting entire car with jack by the rear, just as you did. Tried lifting by front wheel and that would work too, but because of my driveway profile having jack by the rear seemed to distribute weight more evenly (in my case), thx.

[@MTNRanger]

@@northeastev That's for the feedback, I'm glad it worked out well.

[@SANTIAGOSANCHEZ-yw3pd]

Remind people to remove the jack prior to lowering the jack....

[@nibblenibblenomnom]

Not sure why you're reversing your driver every time you torque a lug nut, that does absolutely nothing.

[@Resist4]

How can Tesla change tire rotations from 6,250 miles to 10,000 to 12,000 miles? This makes no sense since tires on a Tesla will wear sooner than on most other vehicles, because Tesla's are so heavy. Seems to me that Tesla extended the rotation mileage just to make their cars more maintenance free. But there's nothing that special about their tires, other than the tread pattern and the noise dampening foam. Also, I'd do a cross pattern rotation instead, as that would make the tires last longer than front to back. Yes it's more work but it lets your tires wear more evenly.

[@MTNRanger]

I totally agree on the rotation interval, it makes no sense to be over 10k miles. I did cross pattern on my previous cars, but the Tesla mobile service guy recommended front-to-back. My wear is pretty even from left to right sides. Just front to back due to more wear on the back due to RWD. There is no issue from me if someone wants to do cross pattern for their situation.

[@hanzelnuts8446]

Hi. The cross pattern you're referring to, is it: FRONT Driver to back driver, then back driver to FRONT passenger? The cross is only from back driver to front passenger, right?

[@MTNRanger]

@@hanzelnuts8446 It is called Rearward Cross. Front Driver goes to Back Passenger, Front Passenger goes to Back Driver, Back Passenger goes to Front Passenger, Back Driver goes to Front Driver. See the picture for detail: www.lesschwab.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-LesSchwabLibrary/default/dw29420734/images/learningCenter/article/content/Tire%20Rotation%20Graphic%20vert.jpg

[@Resist4]

@@hanzelnuts8446 yes, initially only one tire is crossed but all the tires will eventually be crossed over as more rotations are done.

[@Resist4]

@@MTNRanger why would your rear tires wear more? With most vehicles it's the front tires that wear first, due to flexing when turning. There is no way your RWD can burn rubber, unless you're punching it in turns.

[@oudude27]

Do every 5000. Waiting that long is just going to eat up your tires

[@MTNRanger]

It depends on you situation and tires. my current set is probably going to reach 40k miles compared to the original sets 22k. I recommend checking every few thousand miles with a tire tread depth gauge.

[@poiuyqwerty9516]

I would not trust cheap Harbor Freight tools on a $50k+ vehicle, or any vehicle Good luck gambling on your personal safety (and your Tesla’s safety) every time you use it

[@MTNRanger]

Tesla mobile service uses the same 3 ton floor jack I have. I’m aware there is a recall on jack stands, but there are no outstanding issues with the floor jacks. I use OTC Stinger 3 ton jack stands.

[@johnrohland2423]

Where did you find a Tesla with lug bolts? My Tesla has lug nuts not bolts. A bolt is a threaded fastener with an external male thread. This entire video is incorrect and should be redone.

[@MTNRanger]

Come on now, it's a slip of the tongue. Don't be ridiculous.