Tesla Model 3 v Polestar 2 - which is best?

[@carwow]

What was your first car?

[@nathanb2100]

My dad had a Suzuki Alto :)

[@kristians2704]

Bugatti Divo

[@sahillikhar2667]

It was Volkswagen Polo🔥🔥🔥

[@lagundafire]

K11 Micra. Loved it

[@Tonseren]

Seat ibiza 2009 1,4 hatchback :D and I loved it!

[@BAGALUTT]

hi carwow, please include "kilometers (range)" and "kilometers per hour (speed)" in your reviews. that would be amazing! edit: km/l would be great too!

[@carwow]

What do the rest of you think - should we include this?

[@LetsBringThePain]

yeah, they seem to not understand that they have iternational audience 😅

[@Pislik870]

@@carwow Yes please

[@deejayjoubert]

Metric units please 😇

[@Fastwalker27]

@@carwow Yes of course

[@haramaschabrasir8662]

The Polestar is beautiful, but it's overpriced. I settled for a Model 3 a year ago although my heart favored the Polestar. But the Model 3 has more range and more features for the same price.

[@KirkBell]

Good choice for the Model 3. Have you driven a Polestar 2 since buying a Tesla M3? I own a model 3 and recently hired Polestar 2 and I can say hands down the M3 is the better car in every aspect.

[@susand9296]

@@KirkBell Which model of P2 did you hire? Unless it was the 350KW 476hp version you haven't really experienced the Polestar properly. Tesla M3 is unfortunately a very ugly car, and I would say it is certainly not better in every aspect.

[@clewis5220]

For me it’s the Tesla charging network that trumps all other EV brands if you travel across country a lot

[@mcfc6320]

When we go all electric, we will miss mat watsons stick of truth.

[@jamesdawson3094]

who knows, maybe they’ll keep doing fake vents for designs sake!

[@GrumpySalmon]

His wife disagrees

[@superchicken6192]

Not really electric cars do have vents for aerodynamic purposes 💁

[@Dragoneer]

Cock of truth

[@InSaN3ViSioN]

Already forgot about it

[@pignonMZ6]

I test drove both before buying my first EV, well I also tested the Mach E and the ID3 and 4. The Model 3 is so far ahead of all those cars there should be no debate, I bought the 2021 Long Range and it was a no brainer, I don't regret buying it at all, best car I've ever owned.

[@suemathews9696]

TOTALLY AGREE. I upgraded from a M3 perf LR to a MY LR for more room. Driving is fun again when you own a Tesla.

[@Sheldon42]

Good for you. You like ugly cars that will fall apart in a couple of years.

[@suemathews9696]

@@Sheldon42 uh no. They are great cars with very little maintenence. But since you don't own one, you have no idea what you are talking about. Lol!

[@pignonMZ6]

@@Sheldon42 lol ok boomer

[@Sheldon42]

@@suemathews9696 Uh, just wait a couple of years. Especially, when you are out of warranty. I was thinking of buying model S, but no way, sorry. Speed is not everything.

[@JYC512]

I’ve always liked Polestar when it was still just a performance division of Volvo and so happy that I have a Polestar 2 waiting for me in a couple of weeks. Really excited

[@markplott4820]

NOW, in 2021 Polestar 2 is a CHEAPLY made Executive car by GEELY who owns VOLVO. at best the Polestar 2 is a COMPLIANCE car with a GAS car body and a OUTDATED Drivetrain & battery pack. the Model 3 is LIGHTER & NIMBLER than the OVERWEIGHT Polestar 2.

[@am_staart9544]

Very nice, Ive always liked Polestar. Has there been a deciding factor for you to get it instead of another electric car?

[@teshup8296]

@@markplott4820 Yeah about that, Volvo recently bought most of Geely's shares from the company. Geely now only owns 8.2 percent(and Volvo most likely will completely buyout the Geely's shares in the future). Now Volvo also has full ownership of the production line, research and sales operations in China which is the only non-Chinese company to do so btw.

[@amitation]

Agree, I got mine coming in week time. Too excited. For me, I can't stand the shape of model 3 and judging by few friend's experience, build quality is terrible.

[@tusharnayyer951]

@@amitation This is exactly what all non Tesla buyers say to justify their purchase decision. M 3 is most and best selling in many countries for a reason while companies like Polestar is nowhere on the scene. Build quality is way better than you imagine, go drive a Tesla and you will know know what you are missing out.

[@EVil-ob8in]

Ive had my Polestar since July 2021 and i still love to drive it. Its the first car ive really enjoyed driving having been more into sports bikes owning Ducati and Honda Fireblade machines. Early cold starts are a pleasure in the Polestar knowing ive preset the interior to be 22 degrees when i get in the car. OTA's keep things fresh with the latest including battery preconditioning when navigating to a rapid charging station through the built in Google maps - any rapid charging station for that matter! This makes a huge difference as charging speeds tended to build up slowly but not now as I'm seeing 150kw almost from the moment i plug the car in.

[@seriousgameofficial]

This is so obviously paid lol

[@EVil-ob8in]

@@seriousgameofficial lol. Posted this a year ago. Another year on, I take this stuff for granted now. As I said, I’ve never really been a car person tbh (prefer bikes) but this car has surprised me.

[@MoreCharactersThanNeeded]

I worked for polestar for a while about 2 years ago and tried their performance model. It was good fun, but you did notice the Volvoesque feeling. The best Volvo I have ever driven would sum up my experience.

[@drxym]

I think the Polestar looks a lot nicer, has a much better interior with actual buttons and a better infotainment system. Probably in other regards such as performance Tesla has the advantage. In reality both are decent vehicles, and for the price they cost they bloody should be.

[@seventeen9718]

They're cheap as fuck tbh... And I'm not rich. Compare any other $70k car and they shit on them. A top trim Camry is $54k...

[@meriofrog]

Better infotainment? Lmao.

[@jmcvvv2]

@@seventeen9718 even a camry has better interior quality than a tesla model 3

[@seventeen9718]

@@jmcvvv2 I've been in both, it doesn't. I understand the Tesla hate but blindly saying things like that doesn't make it true. Maybe the fitment of some things might have a better finish, but overall the Camry (even the SL/SX model) are extremely basic. Tesla's electrics are a little clunky in places but they're incredibly robust and feature packed compared to a Camry. Your Camry doesn't have "dog mode" for instance...

[@TB-up4xi]

@@seventeen9718 The $70k +/- VW Arteon 206TSI is a contender on all fronts (interior and performance)

[@CowenGittens]

The Polestar may be one of the best looking EVs out there.

[@sondersonics7534]

Without a doubt

[@julienklimsza6698]

The front end yeah but the rear end and rear three quarters look very awkward.

[@GodsGiftToMom]

Completely agree. Tesla looks so dated now. Three guys at work have them and they have no status

[@ElroyMcDuff]

​@@GodsGiftToMom No "status"? That's so low on my list of priorities that it doesn't even register. =) Anyway FWIW, I actually get a little (semi good natured) hate from a few bumpkin coworkers but eh, that's their problem.

[@sondersonics7534]

@@julienklimsza6698 each to their own i guess

[@jackna6345]

The RR 'Ghost' on the crossing, nice touch 👌😂

[@mustafabilal2086]

I really like the fact that despite having subscribers in millions you guys still read and reply to your viewers' comments. That is very nice, it is a good way to communicate with your audience. You have a new subscriber ❤

[@MotorsByHG]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioqQhYdseMd2sJI

[@Thawhid]

It's a team of people. They grew on YT. Js

[@Brotherbear75]

Quiet you……

[@-Grifter]

Apart from yours

[@mustafabilal2086]

@@-Grifter i dont care

[@Mmmmilo]

I seriously jump into my Model 3 sometimes just to take a ride. It's great fun.

[@tomhayden9672]

Me too! 🤪

[@haramaschabrasir8662]

I owned my Model 3 for 10 months now and I still am looking forward to driving home after my day at work. Just because I get to drive it.

[@arealperson641]

I jump into my V8 Camaro 2SS just to take a ride.

[@kimiisland9802]

Chose between Polestar 2 and Tesla Model 3. First drove the Tesla and was impressed. Then 2 hours later I was in the Polestar 2 and it blew me away. I fell instantly in love withe the Polestar. It simply looks stunning, very high quality and super nice little details. We went for the Polestar 2 Dual Motor with Performance Upgrade. One big point is also that the Polestar 2 can pull significantly more than the Tesla. 1.5 T vs. 550 kg.

[@chrishyde1216]

As a camper, that is significant, except I'd understood that the M3 could tow 1000kg. Is it just the dual motor that can tow 1000kg and the single motor is lower?

[@kimiisland9802]

@@chrishyde1216 Yes, the Dual motor can tow 1.500kg. The single motor only 800 or something like that. Just around what the Tesla Model 3 can tow. And I can tell you: I have the car since 8 months now and I still love it so much. The acceleration is amazing, it drives amazing, everything is working well, no problems so far and with a full battery you really get easily over 400km, with staying between 80-20%. I noticed 2 things that I wish that they were different though. 1. The trunk door (tailgate): It doesnt have sensors and its huge. You cant open the trunk in any parking garage without being constantly afraid that it doesnt stop in time when you push the stop button. Its super annoying. I got already a scratch because it didnt stop and crashed in the wall. Also the foot sensor for the tailgate is not working that easily. You need to stand in a perfect position, know where the sensor is and what movement you need to perform that it actually reacts. When you carry something, this is just ridicilous and embarressing when you hop around on one leg and try to find the sensor. 2. The Auto Pilot System: it is overall really good, nothing too special, but it works perfectly and you feel very save when using it. The car notices immediatly when someone tends to cross your lane and reacts much faster than any human could do. So this can save a life. It never brakes when it is not neccessary, it is really perfectly set up. BUT, what I really dislike is that the automatic steering suddenly stops at 140 km/h with minimal warning or notification. When you set cruise speed for example on 160 km/h, and you stuck behind another car and only do 130 km/h, the car automatically holds the lane. When the car in front of you is away, the car automatically accelerates to 160 km/h until there is another slower car in front of you. But when you hit 140km/h the auto steering/lane holding function gets automatially deactivated. I do understand the reason, but there is no real notification about that which can be very dangerous, since you are expecting the car to still hold the lane. It only shakes the steering wheel a tiny bit, but not more than it does when you hit or cross the border of the line. So when you are not watching your speed and look at the screen, you might not notice that you actually have to steer by yourself. You should at least have an option to get a acustic noise when the auto steering function gets deactivated. But I would definitly but that car again and I can only recommend it. I am super happy we bought the Polestar instead of the Tesla. We also looked at the Model Y, but its more expensive and doesnt look that great. Also the quality is not on the level of Polestar.

[@chrishyde1216]

@@kimiisland9802 Thanks for this. However, the manufacturer's website for the Polestar 2 indicates that all versions (single motor or dual, and standard or long range) can tow 1500 kg. If you configure the car and add a towbar then it will show the towing weight, and it's 1500 kg for all.

[@kimiisland9802]

@@chrishyde1216 Ok, I might be wrong, but I thought it was not like that. Maybe you can call and ask to be sure? But regardless, the dual motor is great, its so much fun. And in the end I guess towing with 2 engines is much better for the car than with only 1.

[@SmartMart1658]

The most important feature of the Polestar 2 over the Model 3 - the Polestar 2 is a hatchback and therefor a lot more practical than the Model 3. The Model Y is more expensive than the Model 3 so this makes the Polestar 2 a winner for some people. It is also more exclusive than the Model 3 which are quite common - even here in the UK. Model Y is now available to order in the UK but starts at £55k for the dual motor version or you can pay more for the performance version. No cheaper Model Ys are on offer just yet in the UK.

[@hoshanggunner]

Aren’t they common because they’re better?

[@adamhoffman2329]

There is an amazing amount of storage in the model 3 trunk and the back seats fold down. More room than the polestar actually.

[@PDLM1221]

This was the best comparison to date on electric cars , my wife and I love Volvo’s so I’m leaning towards the Polestar but after watching this review I’m back to the Tesla , also. Cause they are more experienced with electric cars and the charging stations hear in the States, Tesla charging stations are all over the Northeast where we live way ahead of the other stations , although I just heard that Elon’s going to let other brands use the charging stations in the future if not already.

[@neil454]

Yeah they have a pilot program in the Netherlands for allowing non-Teslas to supercharge, but from what they said, it's pretty clear that the charging will be much more expensive, and possibly not available in high-use areas, so I wouldn't 100% bank on supercharging for non-Teslas too much.

[@kareebhasnat]

That Rolls-Royce Ghost appearance when he mentioned Ghosts 😂

[@scp4447]

Cool reference ngl

[@Thawhid]

Ha

[@hemanth2596]

Mat can you compare these two cars in real life driving just like the etron vs model S? I bet itd be one exciting video

[@Techtrt]

S

[@MotorsByHG]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioqQhYdseMd2sJI

[@icetea2889]

DS logo for polestar?🙈😅

[@hemanth2596]

@@icetea2889 what?

[@kael13]

Unfortunately the UK still has the old Model S for now... Bit of a wait for the new ones.

[@thevolthead]

Had both (in a fashion!). Had a Tesla 3 Dual Motor for 2.5 years, just replaced it with a Polestar 2 Dual Motor Performance/Plus. Yes, range is less on the Polestar but in almost every other way it is vastly superior to the Tesla. The Polestar App is a bit pants versus the Tesla one but as an all round car, Polestar wins. I absolutely love mine! Maybe it was the editing but Matt seemed to intimate the Tesla was better built which is ludicrous, the Polestar build quality way exceeds Tesla and indeed any of the German cars i've had from BMW, Merc and Audi.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Tesla is a German Car from Berlin and a Chinese car from Shanghai. Polstar is a Chinese car from Geely. And yes your right Chinese built cars are likely to have the best build quality. Other than that I dont get all the German is best gumpf......44 years engineering in big auto world wide I would say dont get trapped into nationalising car brands.......your likely to pick the wrong country against the brand.

[@FatHeadDave]

Tesla fan boy here, feels good to know Tesla are building quality vehicles! Have to admit that Polestar looks great though

[@BikerJim74]

LMAO Tesla and quality. good one bro

[@BikerJim74]

you fanboys are the worst

[@xxstealerxx]

??? completely clueless to tesla's QA problems i see

[@oes2546]

8:40 I’ve heard other reviewers say the complete opposite here as well. That the Polestar is/feels better made than the Tesla build quality-wise 🤔 Are car reviews really this subjective? What’s going on? 🤔

[@briankavanagh7191]

OES 25, it doesn't matter what car they review against a tesla even if that car had a 500 (real miles) range, had the most sumptuous and luxurious interior, NASA speck electrics, 0-60 in 2 secs with top speed of 200mph, the load space of a truck and cost £25K all the reviewers would say the tesla wins because of the charging stations. 🐑all of them.

[@sidpandya6827]

Depends which polestar tbh. The 2 is fine but the new model 3s are built really well. That one looks to be the refresh with the different consoloe so I wouldn't doubt it feels better than the 2.

[@gidnild701]

That's what he said here. Polestar better build quality

[@gidnild701]

@@briankavanagh7191 what non sense. Not true. He explains why Tesla won.

[@briankavanagh7191]

@@gidnild701 I have test driven the S and 3, the S won hands down between the two, when I drove the 3 I didn't get the "ooh! I like this" it just didn't feel special to me, my Merc CLK coupe far superior in build and interior, but each to their own.

[@MarcoPon]

The difference in efficiency is staggering: ~1.5x!

[@nikolajelovac1648]

duh, the Volvo is taller, it's practically a crossover, hence more air resistance, hence less efficiancy

[@ahyaan2552]

@@nikolajelovac1648 i dont think polestar is still connected to volvo though i may be wrong

[@nikolajelovac1648]

@@ahyaan2552 you may be right, I was just automatically making the connection, it's hard to separate the two (especially when the damn thing looks like a typical Volvo as well)

[@MrRedRye]

@@ahyaan2552 they're essentially just subsidiaries of the same company. Like how Cupra is linked to SEAT.

[@deansmits006]

@@ahyaan2552 independent companies, though I know Polestar borrowed platform/tech from Volvo. And Volvo still has Polestar tuned trims

[@jonathantaylor1998]

The efficiency of the Tesla drivetrain is EPIC...! Definitely an easy win for the Model 3

[@LiveLikeaPunk]

except its ugly af compared to the Polestar

[@ryansmithc]

@@LiveLikeaPunk Styling is subjective.

[@ElusiveTy]

@@LiveLikeaPunk Absolutely subjective since I think the people that call it a frog or a fish are insane.

[@romansenger2322]

@@LiveLikeaPunk for me the Tesla looks better, more futuristic whereas the Polestar pleases the old ICE fashion look style.

[@BikerJim74]

except Tesla build quality is garbage

[@jonroberts1890]

Matt Watson - Who doesn't like fun? Karl Pilkington - Hold my beer

[@vxfoxy]

This comment deserves more credit 🤣

[@jonroberts1890]

@@vxfoxy I appreciate this 😂

[@Muskar2]

The Tesla Model 3 front always kinda reminded me of a Porsche. I guess it has a lip that apparently looks like a fish or frog, but I mainly see a Porsche that's been mushed and it looks very sporty to me. The Polestar looks very Volvo but with a bunch of ephemeral "look I'm an EV" qualities. At least they didn't go all the way to having blue lines everywhere.

[@markplott4820]

Tesla model 3 has better Handeling than a BMW M Series.

[@TerribleUsernameAmirite]

Porsche doesn’t have a grill front and centre because 911 is rear engine. This makes their transition to EV styling much easier, and Tesla looks like them because of this too

[@Sheldon42]

Please, do not say Tesla and Porsche in the same sentence. It is an insult to Porsche

[@Muskar2]

@@Sheldon42 On the contrary, I see it as a compliment to Porsche. Copying is the ultimate form of flattery.

[@cobrachannel100]

@@Sheldon42 It is an insult to Tesla being mentioned with others. $1T dollar market cap? No contest. They can literally raise like $20B tomorrow and pour that money into whatever R&D and other shit they wish to pour it. 5 more years and it wont be fair to other car makers. Some of them will be acquired by Tesla, perhaps.

[@TheOnlyShanTheMan]

Loving you testing out how easy it is for a car seat to be fitted, you need to do it more often on the videos and also fit a pushchair in the boot people want to see how much room they have left

[@TheTrueWelshIdiot]

Pushchair in the Boot is a great shout @carwow and I don't even have kids!

[@bluelabel222]

I think EV reviewer should also consider the accessibility and reliability of EV charger as part of their review as well. When I charge at the Tesla supercharger stations, it is guaranteed to work while some 3rd party charge may give issues.. at least in my experience.

[@DS-vx3wf]

in many European countries, other cars can use Tesla chargers...

[@jonasweber9408]

@@DS-vx3wf yes but to be fair it’s not as fast and reliable with a third party car for the moment :/

[@Nerdifull]

Loved at 9:11 the Phantom as an actual phantom, didn’t expect that

[@Snoopmasta]

The Polestar is so much more beautiful!

[@WmAHughes]

Came here to say this! the Polestar is just so good looking, its handsome without looking too aggressive.

[@dantoes1]

2:07, the supperchargers in the Netherlands gives now acces to other EV's, you wil pay more than tesla owners, but its cheaper than IONTY or Fastned. The only problem i have seen is that those chargers are opimized for tesla's chargeport position, so with some EV's you will block 2 stalls.

[@briankavanagh7191]

Dantoes, maybe with all the billions elon has he could put longer cables on, or a socket and use your own cable.

[@ukfalcon85]

Iv tested both the single and dual motors of the polestar. Once you tasted the power of the dual the single seems so slow. So my advice is if you want more range just test the single motor 🙃 🙂.

[@archfxt3619]

Yeah but then you find out tesla got the dual motor beat too

[@ukfalcon85]

@@archfxt3619 that's true but anything faster then the 4.5 seems to fast on most uk roads

[@archfxt3619]

@@ukfalcon85 what about charging networks

[@ukfalcon85]

@@archfxt3619 well tesla are opening them up to other evs. The test are already underway in Holland. So it doesn't make a difference soon. It comes down to what you really want just like most things in life.

[@archfxt3619]

@@ukfalcon85 lets hope so

[@elliottwadsworth4201]

25kwh difference for the same range oofff that power train efficiency difference is massive

[@4literv6]

Indeed, it's like people who try to compare the mach e to tesla model y. The mach e awd er has over 20kwhs more useable battery capacity yet gets a similar range as the model y lr. Yet somehow people try to claim it's somehow better. Its like yeah no it is not, something with over 20%more battery which gets close to the same range. Is not in any way similar. Kinda like lucid fans crowing about the range of a car which has over 18% more battery capacity than the tesla model s lr. Ok lucid great job seriously, but boil it down and the lucid is about 5% more efficient. Less if tesla only has a useable capacity of around 94kwhs out of the 100kwh packs vs lucids 118kwh pack. Then they claim lucid makes the most efficient ev on sale. Uh no per the epa website the most efficient ev available right now is the model 3 at 142mpge, the most efficient lucid is rated for 131mpge. And there are others outside tesla which have higher than 131mpge ratings. 😀

[@NotPoodle]

@@4literv6 That is because the average driver only cares about total range. They don't care if its an 85kw battery or a 100kw battery, they just want to know how far they can go.

[@4literv6]

@@NotPoodle the average drivers daily commute is under 40 miles total. Every ev made over the past decade and even some made over 100 year's ago now. Could easily cover that distance, an average vehicle also sits motionless for 95+% of it's life. Any electrical outlet in existance can charge an ev at between 3-30+miles of range per hr charging rate. Yet people claim there is no infrastructure for charging evs. 😀

[@pablomax9376]

You should also consider that Telsa already said they will open the super charger to any car in the near future. In fact, in Holland it is already live. Next year they will expand the program.

[@AlternativPerspectiv]

might*

[@dallatorretdu]

holland is just a test on a few stations. Also they’re in talk to open the supercharger only for cars that can charge without going in the wrong parking spot

[@carwaffle]

Tesla will open up the network if it generates a solid income. I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve seen Tesla drivers charging away from the supercharger network even when there is a supercharger nearby, and it’s all down to cost. If there’s a FOC/cheaper charger nearby people will use it. This means that the supercharger network has lots of spare capacity for others (who are less concerned about cost) to use.

[@robotpirateisland3430]

@@AlternativPerspectiv They will absolutely open up some of the chargers and have stated this many times. The revenue/advertising opportunity is too good.

[@memememine1]

I own a 911 but I still enjoy driving a Model 3. Of course it is not as fun as a real sports car but most people do not buy sports cars. Even though a base model 3 is a mass produced mass market car with no sporting intentions I really appreciate that the engineers cared enough to make it fun to drive. The throttle response is punchy, the steering is quick and not 100% devoid of feel, and maybe most important it has a rear weight bias and is RWD. I cannot find the review but years ago some journalist compared it to the original mini in which the model 3 is a regular car that regular people buy for normal reasons that just happens to be actually fun to drive in a sea of boring cars.

[@Sjoelin]

An important point which does not come across clearly is, that the energy efficiency of the tesla is much better, dramatically reducing the running cost of tesla vs other brands. For gasoline-cars, fuel-efficiency is a key parameter in branding, market and testing - why no do the same for electic vehicles? The fact that the tesla gets same range roughly with 50kwh battery vs a 75kwh is astounding => 33% more fuel/energy efficient. As some of us, are also buying electric cars out of consideration for the environment and climate, I think reviewers should have a lot more emphasis on this.

[@giovannifoulmouth7205]

213 vs 312 Wh/mi, enormous difference.

[@dingo137]

You'd think trying to optimise efficiency would be super important for a manufacturer, as it significantly reduces the cost of the battery needed to achieve a given range.

[@danielmueller9671]

The thing is that Tesla shows the consumption of only the motor while Polestar displays a total consumption. This and the fact, that the test drive was quite short leads to this enormous difference. The Tesla is actually more efficient, but the difference is not that big. Most tests come out with 10-20% difference.

[@techpassion4126]

Really looking forward to when EVs (or other cars with alternate-fuels) become more mainstream! They're still pretty pricey now imo. My old Nokia back in the day was about $800 brand new, 2mp camera and keypad included! But now that smartphones are mainstream, I can get so many good features for $800 and even less! Hopefully these cars reach that stage eventually, would love to have one as a little runabout for town!

[@NSUScooter]

You are absolutely correct! I remember the first 32” 720p flatscreen I got and it cost a whopping $700 back then. These days $700 will get you a huge OLED 4K flat screen all 50” and above!! I don’t think many people are truly grasping how much has changed over the last 20 years. In 2002 people were still using AOL and dialing into the internet and now I’m commenting immediately from my iPhone on a Video that would’ve taken HOURS to load back then!

[@xavierball9106]

The Tesla Model 3 (formally known as SR+) now does a range of 305 miles it just got recently updated

[@44Bigs]

Also a tad slower, unfortunately. Though still faster than this Polestar 2.

[@ghostbustinnn]

I think this applies to all models 3 starting feb 2022. I got my new sr+ delivered 2 weeks ago and the range is still the 278 or whatever. However I noticed chrome delete and just more detailing upgrades on mine than all the models from before.

[@michaelgoode9555]

A decent stats comparison Matt but what you did was fail to acknowledge that many of us actually spend our travelling time not in the driver's seat and not hussling along but stuck in the slow grind of everyday British gridlocked traffic. The rear cabin space and comfort of the Polestar looks preferable to me as that's the place where I will spend most of my car journey time. I don't need more than 200 miles of range because my bladder will want a break sooner than 3 hours at non-stop motorway cruising. I do value the hatchback versatility and I definitely do not need a panoramic roof or not-quite autonomous driving. I also do not need to accelerate from standing to 60 in 5.2 seconds. As it stands, that's almost never realistically legally or actually possible on Britain's congested roads anyway. I would like usb sockets in the rear (did either have these) and having more space for my legs to sit in a more relaxed and fully supported position would be very much appreciated. The footwell cutouts on the Polestar seem to accommodate me better here. Overall then: I prefer the ergonomics and practicality of the Polestar 2. Hmmm, a mini review from the back seat.

[@kogikashakunin4683]

Currently teslas have been delivered without USB ports and phone chargers as they ran out of parts. They didn't even tell the customers. Just admitted it was true when the customer called up. Imagine always having a charged phone until your stuck in the middle of nowhere with a new Tesla.😉. I am happy I ordered a Polestar 2. At least I will get a complete car.

[@epi2045]

0-60… 7.29 for the Polestar & 5.21 for the Tesla. The difference here is not by time but literally by completely different performance class. Nissan said that 0-60 in 7 seconds was the sweet spot of performance… that was 20 years ago.

[@sandersson2813]

NO ONE in the fucking world ever does 0-60 in reality, all that matters is sufficient poke for overtaking, both these cars have plenty

[@raymondsmith9936]

@@sandersson2813 says the person that drives the slower car 🤣

[@cantfindanamefree]

Based on my recent long trip I'd choose tesla every time for the chargers. It was a shit show getting a charge at any service stations and having to divert to a tesco car park to charge and then also having to sign up to another charge company 🙃

[@HeIlkungTH]

1:39 I love how Matt just stomps the accelerator

[@zdravkomkpetrov8814]

Let's hope that he is going to stomp soon accelerator of Tesla S Plaid. 😁

[@josiah6428]

Include a list with some of the most important stats; range, bhp, weight and so on. It would make it easier for the viewer to compare them.

[@markplott4820]

MATT does not want that, he wants a BASED Review to sell Polestars .

[@hellmekun]

@@markplott4820 i'm guessing you didn't even try to watch this video?

[@suemathews9696]

Range on a 2021 long range M3 is 350 now. When I bought my M3 in 2018 it was 305. My long range MY has a range of 326. The performance MY has a shorter range and "summer" tires. I wanted a longer range and all season tires. The MY also has a heated steering wheel.

[@giovannifoulmouth7205]

@@suemathews9696 I still don't understand the obsession with heated steering wheel. WHY do people care so much about such an insignificant detail?

[@suemathews9696]

@@giovannifoulmouth7205 I don't know. . .

[@michaelfarrokhi6832]

This guy, now blending in with the cars. 😅✌🏾

[@gtijohn69]

That screen in the Tesla!; it looks like an afterthought that was chucked in the car and fixed where it landed.

[@suemathews9696]

But it is quite fun to use for games and streaming, etc. . .and the cameras are amazing. . .

[@stioarfi1933]

Did you see Polestar 2 just released OTA power upgrade? This video definitely deserves a "part 2" with the power upgraded!

[@romansenger2322]

do you copy paste your comments on all Polestar 2 videos now?

[@piearce1361]

@@romansenger2322 I could say the same for you.

[@kogikashakunin4683]

Not applicable to this polestar2. Only AWD.

[@TheRocky3211]

Mobile app and other software features to be considered. Sentry mode , dashcam , entertainment while charging games/ media .

[@rahza92]

To be fair. Polestar 2 runs Android Automotive. Currently only 1 game, and 1 video app is available in the Play Store. So it’s there, but limited. However this is expected to increase when more manufacturers will adopt Android Automotive.

[@chavezevans9288]

Hey Matt and Carwow, just wanna let you guys know that you have fans in Jamaica 🇯🇲… Keep up the Good Work 🙏🏾

[@MotorsByHG]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioqQhYdseMd2sJI

[@NICKCAMP04]

Lots of fans too ;)

[@glambo6362]

I love the reviews that mat does

[@carwow]

Same here! But maybe we're biased? 👀

[@surfalcatraz9770]

@@carwow about polestar yall are biased its a shxty car

[@stefanelius5171]

Polestar looks at least five times better, more attractive and in ten years, that bright Volvo look "says that you drive in a vehicle of quality and safety! I would always choose Polestar first ... and only these last lights 🙏 ♥ ️ Greetings from Serbia!

[@mr.you-tube1412]

Mat the clip you show to subscribe is still at 6 million subs but your subs are increasing daily . So shoot it every time... loved this video

[@Astrophysikus]

The Tesla recently got a battery upgrade, it comes now with a 60 kWh battery!

[@lukedudgeon8699]

I love the traditional car styling of the Polestar. I love the performance output of the tesla, but absolutely HATE the fact it doesn't have a cluster mounted in front of the driver and relies on the centre tablet for all of the info. Also, that I could find in my research yesterday, the Tesla superchargers in Australia are limited to 120kW. Whereas other charges are able to charge at higher rates(when the vehicle is capable of this).

[@akthompson110]

Wont be long before tesla superchargers are upgraded to V3 aka 250kw

[@romansenger2322]

the missing cluster was a bummer for me at first, too. After test driving I noticed its absolutly no problem. Going to get my 2nd Tesla delivered next week now I can tell you its something I dont even think about now. You get used to it pretty fast without any drawbacks

[@stephencollins7714]

I just do not understand how the car industry was forced to spend billions and years to adopt WLTP and it is still shockingly inaccurate. What should happen is that range/mpg data gets updated based upon real world data from actual driving across all the owners in the country in question to provide a much more accurate assessment. Polestar being able to advertise a range that is the best part of 100 miles adrift is an absolute deal breaker for most. BTW, why not just run the two cars one behind the other on the range test to eliminate as many variables as possible. Tesla still streets ahead

[@matti7668]

Nice review. My choose is a Tesla because looks better and interior much better than Polestar "Volvo". Polestar is Liftback and Tesla Sedan. Model 3 is old compared to polestar. Model 3 did not leave the steering wheel this time?

[@ken830]

Also the middle seat of the Polestar is ridiculous with that "transmission tunnel hump" from the ICE age...

[@suemathews9696]

Exactly. . . And that front grille = ICE age too!

[@Tonseren]

Please add the mach e entry level to that fight and lets hear where it places!

[@MotorsByHG]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioqQhYdseMd2sJI

[@nielsdebakker3283]

And then do a elk test please ;) :p

[@victorc.979]

Mach e compet with the Model Y

[@MrZotteltier]

The ghost Ghost got me. Cheers, here’s my like on this video.

[@BiasOfficialChannel]

do you mean physically, or did you mean that they made you laugh?

[@MrZotteltier]

@@BiasOfficialChannel I saw it, needed a sec and then made me giggle :)

[@MikeSweeneyMedia]

I just did all this.. Ended up with the Tesla instead of the Polestar for one reason. Well, two reasons.. 1: I got it 10K cheaper by buying a slightly used ( 11K miles) off lease and 2: The polestar is V1.0 of a very nice car. Problems remain to be seen or found and more importantly here with stupid drivers, is if someone crunches my Polestar, it would take weeks and weeks to get parts because all the parts are going to the building of new polestars. Now, ask me in 2 years or so when I'm shopping to upgrade and the Polestar all things being equal, will probably win as it's clearly more refined as a high end car vs the Tesla.

[@Sto79Be]

Teslas aren’t even version 1.0. They are constantly in Beta, especially the software!

[@pepy977]

Come winter time it will do even less miles when you have the heater on lights on wipers on heated seats on radio on

[@OmDahake]

I love how there is a Rolls Royce ghost on the crossing when Mat says you can see some ghosts

[@Panjangl]

Polstar 2 is such a cute jacked up sportback

[@carwow]

We love the looks!

[@jatterhog]

We’re waiting for the Taycan vs EQS vs Model S vs Lucid Air comparison soon

[@Nik-do1wd]

Updated entry level model 3 goes 0-60 in 5.6 seconds and has 305 mile range

[@AntAnt]

its 267 miles and 5.8 seconds

[@4literv6]

@@AntAnt check again in the us it's now over 270miles for the base rwd model 3. Wltp or nedc standards are obviously different ranges.

[@JosephGwynneJones]

5.8 second is correct 304 miles is the range under the WLTP test (or 267 miles estimated as per an EPA test)

[@jarnoverkaaik1517]

In the Netherlands, other brands can now use the supercharger network.

[@vxfoxy]

All of it?

[@confounded_feline]

No adaptive cruise as standard lol. Amazing when the GR Yaris throws it in - a car you'd never think would bother with that.

[@lll4935]

Polestar exterior and Tesla interior are amazing!

[@UTUBESUCK666]

"Normal car" is code word for "obsolete old tech". The drivetrain efficiency difference is stagering.

[@TriviaChallenge]

EVs are 1000% better to drive than 100 year old tech.

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

Trivia Challenge but even within EV’s the Model 3 got like 85% of its advertised range after flooring it, slamming on the brakes, and driving at highway speeds while the Polestar only got like 70%. 4.7 miles/kWh vs. 3.2 miles/kWh means the Tesla gets over 50% better efficiency than the Polestar. It’s crazy how much that varies from company to company, even within EV’s.

[@PalpatinesPlumber]

More to do with weight and aero than drivetrain I believe, even the worst electric motors get like 70+% efficiency and I bet these two have it pretty close in that regard

[@TheJohnboyhunter]

@@TriviaChallenge I wasn't aware that electricity was a recent invention? The first EV was released 130 years ago, the battery tech might be new but electric cars aren't!

[@jacobdaniels3246]

@@TheJohnboyhunter I think he's referencing the lithium-ion/motor drivetrain, rather than just the motor itself, oh and also, DC brushless motors weren't invented until 1962.

[@VinDieselS70]

Polestar 2 is a Volvo and can be bought with Öhlin's adjustable shock absorbers.

[@CamBrehm]

Perfect video 😍 Currently debating which one of these two vehicles to get in Australia... Tesla 3 59,990 or the Polestar 2 also 59,990 The Tesla 3 just got a bigger battery for no extra cost and the Polestar 2 still wants that 5k for extra safety but it's a nicer looking car. Hard decision!

[@alvingeorge775]

Then base ur decision on maintenance and availability of chargers in Aus. Wishing u the best!

[@joelcarterramadge183]

@@alvingeorge775 I would rather a non-Tesla in Australia because their network is very small, and then you won’t have to be a Tesla driver :)

[@thebeesknees5022]

Polestar

[@andrewpaterson8604]

Bear in mind the total lack of QA on Tesla cars

[@bulviutechnika]

take tesla model 3 for a test drive, charging. then decide.

[@Karl-Benny]

when comparing always forget to mention that Polstar infotainment sys is voice activated and to get a real dash like the Polstar you have to buy the S Or X

[@Maatsy]

Love both cars but went with Polestar 2, had it for a year now and couldnt be more happy with it.

[@Dark_Vader888]

Hows TCAM working out for you? LOL!

[@Maatsy]

@@Dark_Vader888 what are you laughing about? LOL. For your information I’ve never had a single problem with this car including TCAM and I got it in october 2020. In other words I’m still very happy with it.

[@cyrilthomas9730]

Polestar 2...for just a difference... Sure... RWD is a plus... But.. Oh man both of them so good.... It's hard to decide...

[@nirbhayatiwari5425]

Pick the Tesla ... That's all ... Nothing hard ..

[@douglaswatt1582]

Nice review. Fair and balanced. Probably wouldn't agree though that the standard range plus is the pick of the Tesla litter. That would definitely be the performance model 3

[@TheTrueWelshIdiot]

Just playing Devil's advocate, but £20k for slightly bigger wheels and 2 seconds quicker acceleration?

[@ElusiveTy]

@@TheTrueWelshIdiot In addition to the wheels and acceleration, it gets lowered suspension, performance brakes and a carbon fibre rear spoiler. It also comes with a track mode with improved cooling, regen braking, torque vectoring, and relaxed stability control. (Only trim level that has it). On top, it obviously comes with an extra 84 KMs (52 miles) of range (EPA).

[@romansenger2322]

@@TheTrueWelshIdiot 20k is a good price for the performance increase, you will have a far bigger price tag for that kind of upgrade in any ICE vehicle

[@oes2546]

6:30 I’ve heard other reviewers say the opposite. That the Polestar drives quite well, even that it's fun to drive. Maybe it is because they drove the Ohlins damper version of the P2 🤔

[@kogikashakunin4683]

Yes the 2 motor car is more fun.

[@SHAMITHADEVINDA]

Damn that design by Polestar

[@jplundholm75]

Really enjoy your car tests. However I believe that you got people from all over the world looking at your videos and I think many would like to have range figures in km as well.

[@zbyszanna]

Unfortunately there is plenty of things missing from your review. I see this all the time with car reviewers as they are used to reviewing legacy auto (albeit you are in the upper bracket, you usually do a pretty good job with this). You compared typical "car" features, but Tesla offers so much more. Sentry mode, entertainment, different drivers profiles applied automatically (and now I'm the cloud), constant OTA updates making the car continuously better and not getting behind on features versus newer models, the on board navigation taking into account charging automatically and using this information to preheat the battery before charging, the ability to remotely set climate settings to for example preheat the car while you are eating, the camp mode, the Tesla app and many others.

[@nopota7290]

beside sentry mode, what you mention is nothing unique. Polestar does all of that too, all "high end" EV's do to some extent.

[@suemathews9696]

AND many voice activated commands. . . And Sentry mode. . .and. . .and. ..:)

[@nopota7290]

@@suemathews9696 Voice commands? You think tesla is unique with VOICE COMMANDS? Have you been living under a rock, all cars have then

[@suemathews9696]

@@nopota7290 have you ever actually driven a Tesla? I have owned a m3 and upgraded to a Y. . . Test drive one and then we'll talk. :) with respect and first hand experience my friend

[@nopota7290]

@@suemathews9696 Sure, maybe you can’t tell a bmw to open the glovebox, or turn on the wipers, or close the door….because those functions aren’t controlled through a display in a normal car. The polestar has google assistant, it’s essentially an android phone. All cars have all the functionality out of voice control you can ask for, other than gimmicky and stupid shit like “open my glovebox”.

[@SiggiUA]

50kWh on the Tesla? I bought one in Juni and it was equipped with 55kWh LFP. The current models have 60kWh LFP (all for the entry level model). Larger capacities available (at an increased price).

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

I believe it’s 55kWh but 50kWh *usable* battery. All manufacturers have a built in buffer that isn’t included in the usable capacity.

[@Muskar2]

@@philorgneopolotin8762 My 2020 Tesla Model 3 SR+ has roughly 50.9kWh available capacity based on testing with ScanMyTesla. The app estimates 53.2kWh nominal capacity. Not sure of the accuracy of those figures, but it's close.

[@lennieoyaro401]

Polestar exterior looking good

[@dsmluck]

Hey just an FYI but I believe that the UK Model 3s are using LFP packs and not NCA. My US spec SR+ has a 50kWh NCA pack but the LFPs have slightly more kWh.

[@suemathews9696]

True.

[@newbeginnings8566]

Clearly the Polestar wins on looks, rear space and boot ease and space. The Tesla wins on all the other points...

[@ts_macan_911]

PS build quality, Seats

[@lbnewell23]

I will never see the interior of the model 3 and think mmmm yes that looks good Same with the exterior tbh but I could get over the fish look and panel gaps but that interior just looks unfinished

[@Invictus357]

I would love to see you do a video on EV charging in inner-cities, where most people have to park in the streets, and EV zealots say just charge at home. Love your video’s Matt.

[@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit]

Do most people in inner cities own a car? Be cheaper to hire one when needed?

[@MOJump23]

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[@Invictus357]

@@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit Be honest, would you? I have a friend who lives in inner Melbourne, and he uses his car on nearly a daily basis, and not just in Melbourne, as do many many thousands of people. It would be impractical to do so.

[@hvbris1]

I live in an apartment in a city center. I can't charge my Model Y LR at home, but there are countless (often free) charging options at shopping malls, supermarkets, etc (if you can't charge at work). It's really not a problem at all.

[@Thorocious]

It doesn't make sense for a lot of people to own an ev in the cities, but then that's what the robotaxi's are going to be for.

[@sevensixtysteve8662]

Great review and the Tesla is an awesome EV, that efficiency is just amazing. Unfortunately for me, I find the exterior styling weirdly dull and featureless with the exception of the front which reminds me of Daffy Duck. The Polestar is less good in some pretty key areas but crucially (for me at least) its good enough and that combined with great styling inside and out, means I would take it over the Tesla without a second thought.

[@epi2045]

The Recaro baby seat is the highlight of the video!

[@douglasb.5601]

I agree...the cars almost put me to sleep! 😴

[@P4SDetails]

Pumped to see a Polestar vs Tesla review. Thanks bru.

[@TheBronx_911]

Matt, worth noting the base Model 3 is now 60 kWh battery. All new M3’s being delivered in December onwards is this newer LFP battery version. Now comes with rear heated seats and heated steering wheel as standard.

[@Zarphag]

but also slower now

[@TheBronx_911]

@@Zarphag 0.5 seconds I believe. Except for this that ordered before November 2nd they get the best of both worlds. They got the extra spec, bigger battery but retained the original 0-60 time.

[@Bogdan00]

lol I read M3 as in BMW M3 not model3, confusing since a car that is 5years old is taking the place of an industry leading performance saloon

[@TheBronx_911]

@@Bogdan00 in the context of this video M3 means Model 3. I don’t think the BMW M3’will ever be confused with a Tesla Model 3. I hope not considering I have an E46 M3 in the garden!

[@777Outrigger]

New EPA range for the FWD Polestar 2 is now 270 miles. For the AWD version it's 249 miles.

[@amaj7313]

Does Matt prefer the interior of the Tesla or Polestar? I couldn't work out what he was saying 😃

[@emilbholland]

Agreed, very hard, but judging by the context he says that he likes the polestar’s build quality over the Tesla’s (“over” being the inaudible word). That is also what other reviews say.

[@amaj7313]

@@emilbholland 👍👍👍

[@PDLM1221]

I think he liked the back seat better….

[@masterImac]

@@emilbholland yea that’s the main problem with The states… horrible build quality. I’m a 100% team Tesla and gonna get one in the near future. Just waiting until the new giga factory in Germany starts running. I mean we all know the difference if something is „made in Germany“ The new model Y, which is build in China seems already being better made than the us version.

[@johanhalvarsson2148]

Under practicality one could mention that the model 3 doesn’t have tow hook option anymore, at least not in sweden.

[@mjplayzrb7710]

Mat Watson, get it “WATT” perfect for this video

[@curtislovrak5390]

The way I see it, if someone wants a Tesla, they’re going to buy the Tesla. If someone wants a nice Electric car that isn’t a Tesla, now they have that option.

[@sandersson2813]

Theres tons of options

[@boostercars5006]

❤ From 🇵🇰 This channel helps me gain knowledge about cars as well as improve my English ....Thank you carwow.....💙

[@Sebastian-cd1mo]

Yes, to me the biggest problem with the Tesla 3 is the design. Its proportions are like that of a toy car.🤷‍♂️

[@Samosayummyyay]

Most non-car people I know thought that the Model 3 was a Ferrari. Only when someone else or I pointed out it's a Tesla did they realise it's not a Ferrari. To be fair, from many angles it does resemble the Ferrari design-philosophy.

[@Sebastian-cd1mo]

@@Samosayummyyay Well, I’m not buying a car for most people, I’m buying it for myself and I think the 3 looks silly. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MrMuz99]

@@Samosayummyyay - What Ferrari does this look like? Never been a fan of the Tesla design tbh, they're pretty bland & slippery. Great aero but not pretty, IMO. Edit: I'd take the Polestar Any day over a Tesla, just my thoughts.

[@Justfun-xc9oz]

@@Samosayummyyay as a Model 3 driver: bull shit. Never heart anyone referring to my Model 3 as a Ferrari! The design is just silly, I agree. It drives great, but other EV’s drive great too. I want to upgrade to an i4!

[@thomasberts8449]

And now to The important question how long is The lifespan on the batteries and what does it cost to replace it when its ended 💸💸

[@Markus_Jungwirth]

Hi Matt. Very nice and interesting review with this two cars. I hope you didn't get sick after making this video. Raining, uploaded on 15. November... and Matt in T-Shirt and Shorts... :-)

[@TeaBreak.]

Tested both these cars this past week. Polestar is a much, much nicer place to be to do long distances. The Tesla bounces along the motorway AND this is the big one. You cannot turn off regen on the Tesla anymore, to meet EPA range. It means a much less relaxing long distance drive. Unless you use autopilot. The biggest problem with both these cars is their dual motor versions. They provide ultra safe driving when driving fast on rural roads. My pick Polestar 2 Performance. Phenomenal.

[@suemathews9696]

M3 performance = 0-60 in 3.5 = phenomenal!

[@TeaBreak.]

@@suemathews9696 😂😂😂 Handling better but driving experience, electric is far superior to fossil.

[@suemathews9696]

@@TeaBreak. yes. . .owned a 2018 M3 Stealth performance AWD LR. Traded in this year for an AWD LR my. Love Tesla.

[@TeaBreak.]

@@suemathews9696 Once you go leccy there is no going back. 🍻 No problem people preferring fossil. Less people clogging up chargepoints then. 😂

[@suemathews9696]

@@TeaBreak. so many people thought I was crazy for putting $1000 down in February 2018 for a Tesla M3. . . Ordered in June. . .delivered to my then downtown Chicago high rise in 9/2018. Such a fun car to drive. I have never ever looked back. And for 3 years I only used superchargers. Now I have a garage with an outlet in Wisconsin so I slow charge. . .

[@ronseal02]

The Polestar "drives like a normal car": Surely that's a good thing?

[@sfisosg7904]

But it doesn't mean it's different from a regular petrol car so not that much smoother or sportier

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I don't know what that is supposed to mean. The Tesla drives like a normal car too. they both drive like EVs. The Tesla feels a bit more like a video game. That's the only difference I notice.

[@kael13]

The Polestar is 'alright' but a Tesla feels a bit like a spaceship. Test drive both and see what I mean.

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

Kael agreed. I don’t even have any dislike for Polestar, I hope just as many people buy it as the Model 3. But the Model 3 is in a class of it’s own. I’d even agree at the higher end, like the model S and X, competitors like Audi and Porsche have better cars for the price. But the model 3 at 40-50k is an absolutely insane car for the value. It’s gonna be a long time until competitors can offer exactly what the Model 3 does at its price range and still be profitable off of them. At the high end, I’d go with the competitors, but at the lower end, Tesla definitely wins IMO.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@philorgneopolotin8762 The only thing that's "special" about the Model 3 is it is a sedan. Other than that, it's an EV. the Polestar 2, as much as the auto media wants to make it a Model 3 competitor, is not a Model 3 competitor. The XPeng P7 does compete with the Model 3, even on price. The 3 may edge it out the 7 in some areas but that is one car that does.If and when Hyundai and Kia decide to make an EV sedan, also, the Model 3 would have more competition. Polestar wants to compete with Porsche and they're going to make higher end vehicles and full EV vehicles and not a Volvo hybrid electrified derivative that the Polestar 2 is now. I'm happy to see the Model 3 have success because I'm sick of crossovers everywhere and a popular sedan is a good thing. The industry is just shoving crossovers down our throats and people are buying them. There are just no other ground-up EV sedans (Polestar 2 is a hybrid, not EV platform) other than the XPeng P7 that I can think of that are sedans. The BMW i4 is more expensive. If anything, that's what Polestar 2 sees itself going up against but they know their platform can't really compete with it.

[@kamaunganga7574]

Love it from kenya🇰🇪

[@carwow]

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[@kipdennis3796]

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[@kamaunganga7574]

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[@Daria-zn3xl]

just bought for 110K on Polster stock.. nice to see the review :)

[@Aforgamon]

I find faux grilles condescending. It feels like they're only there because many cannot get over the fact that grilles are not necessary on electric cars.