Tesla Model S Plaid - The fastest car we have ever tested....but there is a MASSIVE problem.

[@BryceLovesTech]

I’m still in love with my 2013 Model S it has 160,000 miles on its original battery

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Bought Model S P85 back in 2014 now 137,000 miles later still in love with it, had a Plaid on order but cancelled due to LHD and to be honest my RWD doing 0-60 in 4 seconds and free Supercharging is a difficult car to get rid of. Roadster on order from launch night but again if no RHD ill keep the drift crazy P85 and the Tesla charging network. Totally agree on the indicators on a roundabout, just rubbish.

[@allterrainrandy2587]

I bought my 2013 P85 used in 2019, but have personally put 100,000 on it (well ok my wife has probably put the majority of those). I am still amazed how great it is. Such a fun car!

[@martinbailey2140]

Would be great to know, from those with a high mileage model S, how the battery degradation had been. Sorely tempted by on old model.

[@allterrainrandy2587]

@martinbailey2140 my car has 157,000 miles, the original battery failed at 72,000 miles, it was still under warranty. The charger failed, I fixed it with a $75 fuse. The differential broke, couldn't find one, and Tesla wouldn't rebuild it. That was $6k for a new drive unit! I've since found that quaif has used diffs for about $600. The door handles are a source of problems, Tesla fixes them on-site for about $300. The AC failed. I paid about $2,300 for that. It's been an expensive car to maintain and the only car I've ever had a loan on (I've always bought junkers for cheap), but somehow, it's still fairly inexpensive. 100,000 miles has cost about $3,000 in electricity but saved $20,000-$25,000 in fuel and $1,000 in oil changes. Tires have been more expensive (quite a bit), but all in all, it's been worth it. It's is a joy to drive. It's slow on long road trips, but we all still prefer it. And it's free.

[@BryceLovesTech]

@@martinbailey2140 I drive 120 miles a day on my 10 year old. Original battery model S. On a full charge I still get 220 miles.

[@Uptownv]

The new Model S is a pretty car. The design has aged well, and the new LED headlights look great. Mine turns a lot of heads. I wasn’t used to that when I had my Model Y!

[@inclusivelove5165]

That is a very nice upgrade. Congratulations

[@rexjamo]

While I agree that build quality could be a bit better, the safest cars ever crash tested are all Teslas. I'd much rather be in a Tesla in a severe crash than any other car. A few minor panel gaps will be the last thing you're thinking of if your life has been saved by Tesla crash protection features. Almost no car reviewers ever comment on this.

[@AutoEV]

I comment on Tesla’s safety record in this video, but I feel as good as they are, they have a long way to go before matching Volvo’s safety stats and innovation.

[@LocoSkates]

Re indicators: Because you’ll always be indicating left out of a roundabout i suppose you wouldn’t have to figure out which button it was each time the wheel was upside-down, cos it would always be the top one. But obviously, its still stupid. They’ll have to give in and bring back stalks after a while.

[@Lyndalewinder]

You are right - its the only good looking Tesla - but in LHD it won't sell well in the UK.

[@Quagmire925]

Never underestimate the stupidity of Tesla fanboys! They’d buy a wheelie bin from Eeyore Musk if it had a screen and a charge port!

[@DavidKent0407]

Very sad when my Model S order in RHD was cancelled by Tesla. Now I'm happy with my Model S Performance 2020 as it could be the last RHD Model S.

[@Uptownv]

I’m in love with my 23 Model S LR. It’s built beautifully, super quite, no squeaky noises. This 23 model refresh is the most refined automobile I’ve seen from Tesla. That said, I am annoyed with Elon for lowering the price like 10k a month after I leased one! Glad I leased it and didn’t buy!

[@ajbucks]

I paid $130k in Aug 2021 and the same car today is $90k with more features plus nicer tail lights. It’s definitely frustrating but it is what it is.

[@Uptownv]

@@ajbucksI’m with you! Guess it makes more sense to lease these cars as long as you can stomach the mileage restrictions.

[@cuda426hemi]

"the best part is no part" stalks are so 100 years ago. Soon you won't think about it. Maybe. 👀

[@p3dtesla118]

Yeah the Plaid is the best for sure IF you put 19inch wheels then will be very comfy and better range and better accelerations over all much better than 21inch !!

[@EwanM11]

Though i think the indicator buttons are a dumb idea, its clear from your roundabout that if you hadn't moved your hands, and kept them at 9-3 without removing them and shifting them round the wheel, you could have hit the indicator button to come out of the roundabout quite easily.

[@pierre.a.larsen]

Also it will usually turn off the indicator automatically when going straight again.

[@arknu]

I think the UK might slowly have to realize that driving on the right is going to happen sooner or later. With no domestic car industry, and being the only country in Europe (well except Malta) to drive on the left, car manufacturers are starting to think it is just not worth doing a right hand drive version of cars.

[@petedee7847]

I agree it would be better if all countries drove on the same side. But there are many countries that drive on the right including half of the African nations, India, Indonesia, Japan, Australia and New Zealand to name just a few

[@brianiswrong]

It would make sense if the whole world drove on the same side of the road. Sweden changed overnight from driving on the left side of the road to driving on the right. I suspect it would need to be a 5 year plan for any country switching today.

[@jameschapman4824]

Your correct about the stalks and being left hand drive only. I'm afraid for me that would be a deal breaker. There are plenty of cars in that price range that would be more acceptable. Great review though.

[@shou635]

3rd party is working on stalks.

[@PaleBlueDotCitizen]

There are zero cars that come anywhere close to the SPlaid in any measure of performance, features or functionality

[@jameschapman4824]

@@PaleBlueDotCitizen Nah I'll stick with my model 3 . At least I sit on the correct side of the car and when I choose to signal when exiting a roundabout I'm not fumbling for the controls. You can take the risk I prefer not too All the best.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

I wonder if it might be better to find an older Tesla so that I can have right hand drive and stalks for the indicators and wipers!! That’s what I’m used to from all my previous vehicles!!

[@ajbucks]

I’ve owned my 2021 Plaid for 2 years and initially I had the same frustration with the blinker buttons. After about 1000 miles, I was 100% used to them and was perfectly fine. The yoke was a bit annoying at first as well but I got used to it after a few months and started to really like it. Love the car as much today after 35k miles as I did when I got it. 🍻 * I love the Taycan Turbo S and RS Etron as well but they’re way more expensive so for the money, I’d go MB EQE or the Plaid.

[@northshoreplaid]

Mine is a 2021..Yoke took me a couple weeks...But I love it!! Still get giddy knowing I'm driving the car today! I[ve got a little over 36k miles. Still amazing

[@Wol747]

Stalkless is the big not-a-buy-for-me issue. Stupid and arguably illegal in countries with driver standards that include correct use of indicators. The two “arguments” for this that are going the rounds are “you get used to it” and “lots of drivers indicate incorrectly anyway” - neither of which is a striking endorsement for what is for most people a stupid change.

[@robertluong220]

It took about a day for me to get used to the yoke. I now like the yoke better than I do round steering wheels. I have a feeling that people will complain about the yolk are being overly dramatic.

[@bestfriendchucky8500]

I think they hired someone from BMW. "Indicator? What is that for? Let me remove it..." 😂😂😂

[@jcfallows]

I think you will have to spend more time in the car than just a quick test drive. To see if the lack of stalks is a bad idea. It's all pointing towards FSD you won't even need a steering wheel. Audi has already shown a wheel that disappears into the dash when you don't need it.

[@MrSnicol]

Love my Model Y, just get one!!

[@petedee7847]

Great review, thank you. The Model S is the best looking of the Tesla's (IMO) and the only one I would buy from Mr Musk. I wouldn't buy a LHD Plaid though, just imagine if Mr Musk decides to build RHD in a year or two. Also for the price it opens up several other options, including a Taycan Sport Turismo. Of course the supercharger network is still a huge influencer, but things are getting better on other networks

[@Rei_n1]

The absence of indicators stalk is a problem in Europe. I'm not sure how much this will be a problem for Model 3 sales in Europ, but if it was may say, i would boycott the facelifted mod 3 until Tesla changes its mind and brings back stalks the same way Tesla did with the round stearing wheel for mod s/x

[@aaronbounds1336]

34:15 - seems like you managed the indicator press okay. It’s different not having the stalk, sure, but would the same counter argument be true if indicator buttons had always been on the wheel and then an OEM put them on a stalk?

[@Mrbfgray]

Independent dyno of Plaid rated it at 1120 ponies.

[@IjzermanPieter]

A couple of things. Tesla is 10 years ahead, in terms of technology of any other EV maker. FSD is already, statistically proven, saving lives as it avoids accidents that it sees coming. No other car does that. The rate of improvements is astonishing. My 2013 model S is almost 2700 kg, the new S weighs some 500 kg less! Tesla has the best battery technology and efficiency, now. Porsche has serious issues with its batteries, they can keep it out of the press though. I agree there are design things, like the blinker, that goes too far. Build quality: for that price it is a superb build quality and after 400.000 miles it seems the interior is still good. Can't compare with OEMs like BMW, in my view. Software: best of all cars, it does useful stuff that no other brand does and has an interface that is as good as Apple.

[@ChipMIK]

LOL you have eaten all Elons marketing-bs RAW and since you have such an old Tesla, you haven't experienced how utterly insanely bad "Vision" is during the winter-½ year. After disabling the input from the radar it has 100% turned my trusty 3 hours a day drivers tool into 100% POC that can't keep speed when visibility gets below 500 meters which it very often is here in Scandinavia. And now they removed USS' s on new cars and as show here the stalks. Tesla is dropping behind the Chinese cars especially thats arriving during autumn/winter. Xpeng G9 / G6 as two examples where you get so much more car than in a Tesla, level of cabin quality are way above any of Tesla's models and warranty also better. 2 Years ago, surely there was nothing anywhere near Tesla on EV-market but the way Elon is ruining the cars with lack of essential sensors, Vision-crap and now no stalks....No way.

[@IjzermanPieter]

Thanks! The marketing part aside, I did not know about the radar part. They are reintroducing it, as I understand. I agree about the stalks, the rest is personal taste, in my view. Re the Chinese: yes I believe they can make a dent in the Tesla dominance! @@ChipMIK

[@ChipMIK]

@@IjzermanPieter They might re-intro the radar in HW4, but not heard rumours about that on HW3 as its Elons way to push people to buy new models = my car ruined forever. Wonder how long it will be then before HW4's radar starts to make noise, might be approx a year before HW5 arrives. Fool me once.... ;-)

[@Petelmrg]

Surely it’s biggest selling point is it’s utter insanity and it’s utter ridiculousness - if you’ve got the money how could you resist?

[@AutoEV]

It’s an odd car to place as I say. If you compare it to the Mercedes-Benz EQS AMG53 I’ve just been driving, it’s a bargain. Even against a Taycan Turbo S it is. But in isolation, would you not compromise a bit and buy a RHD Model 3 Performance for nearly half the price?

[@Petelmrg]

...but now you're getting all sensible again... @@AutoEV

[@AutoEV]

@@Petelmrg 🤣🤣

[@pierre.a.larsen]

This car is the quickest production car (if you discount small number productions) in the world. You get a hypercar for the price of a luxury sedan. That will be a big draw for the buyers.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Tesla is selling a lot of cars and Tesla Semi tested at highway speeds - REAL world range shocks rivals The Electric Viking

[@karlInSanDiego]

Quoting your 0-60 with rollout. That's reinforcing Tesla's ethos of lying to the customer. "FSD is days away from driving without inventions." Major lie, that people pay $12k - $15k for. FSD is dangerous, and requires your full attention so you don't kill people. That's a liability, not a feature.

[@subevo35]

Elon live streamed a 45 minute FSD drive with only 1 mistake .Hugh risk if it all went wrong . It’s coming sooner than you think. They have removed 300,000 lines of code. The AI doesn’t need it now.

[@alpahc]

21" tires is a bad idea imo. You'll eat through tires faster and lose both performance and range over 19"s.

[@alexd302]

I agree I don't like the buttons for the indicators. You never mentioned it, but I hate the button for the hooter. Someone who has been using the indicator buttons for a while and has got used to them, (and even got to like them!) says the trick to using them is as follows: When you use a stalk indicator, to turn RIGHT you would LIFT the stalk so with the buttons you swipe UP to turn RIGHT swiping the UPPER button. To turn LEFT you swipe DOWN swiping the LOWER button. Once your motor memory gets instinctively used to this, suddenly the buttons are no longer an issue. (according to this guy)

[@oliverkentish9468]

excellent unbiased and fair assessment. I have to agree that the indicator buttons are just plain dangerous - does Tesla honestly believe that people only drive in straight lines? Idiotic.

[@davidpearn5925]

(((BINGO))) Ya got it !. Mum will tell him that if he buys it, not to expect that she will drive it. Heroic stupidity !.

[@shou635]

3rd party is working on stalks. Will be out soon.

[@DR-zk2do]

I agree with your observation about the turn indicators for the roundabouts so common in the UK. In the US roundabouts are rare and most turns begin with the steering wheel at its level position making the lack of a stalk less of an issue.

[@markrosens]

Don't know where you live bro, but in Michigan roundabouts are all over the place

[@kcw9313]

First EV, first Tesla, first yoke. The horn placement is the only thing I'd change. Else, enjoying it immensely. 295 wide tires make a massive visual difference along with the wider track and fender width front and rear. He fails to discern.

[@shou635]

It’s meant to be a very practical car that can also lay the smack down on any car on the motorway.

[@stennordenmalm1735]

@shou.... So you mean you are parking the Tesla on the motorway to do some acceleration? (As you know, in top speed Tesla has nothing)

[@drrai1974]

325 KMH BABE@@stennordenmalm1735

[@shou635]

With so many positives, panel gaps rank at practically zero for “concern”.

[@AutoEV]

I'm sorry, they simply don't. When spending over £100k on a car, I want it built properly, no matter how clever it is. What I didn't mention in the review, was how bad the paint quality was too, but I felt I had said enough about the panel gaps and build quality. Tesla need to get this right.

[@alexanderishere1857]

I think it's a great car, but the indicator issue is a design flaw, there is no way around that.

[@mhsohel47]

Use track mode for spiritual driving in the twisty or on a track

[@almostthere100]

Great, fair review but when discussing its competition, why do nearly all reviewers fail to mention the price differential? The Taycan, while beautiful, is TWICE the price and about half the range! This is HUGE! Where's the comparable EXCELLENT Porsche charging network? How about autonomy? You get the point...

[@AutoEV]

I do get the point, that's why I mention that you have to spend CONSIDERABLY more on the Porsche, Mercedes EQS AMG and others t o even come close to the Tesla. And on more than one occasion I state the fact that the Supercharger network is the best there is. You did watch the review, didn't you????

[@almostthere100]

@@AutoEV Yep, I watched. I must have missed the part where you discussed the Porsche and Mercedes charging networks? (... not just the part where Tesla's Supercharger network is the best.) These points aside, as a Plaid S and Y owner, I enjoyed your review. 🍻

[@emjbee101]

Each to their own. Impressive performance, but still looks cheap - that interior is hideous. The lack of things like Apple Car play and basic safety features like an indicator stalk make this a very unappealing car for me.

[@TGWS007]

Do you think after driving it for awhile that the left and right indicators(bottom and top) will become habitual for you, say after a couple of weeks of driving? Like everything we have to retrain our habits when there are changes to our everyday routine.

[@AutoEV]

I have to say “no” to that question. It’s just so fundamentally flawed in execution, and as I said, you end up not actually indicating through your frustration with it. It’s like changing the clutch pedal and brake over on a manual car. Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.

[@DR-zk2do]

I like that Tesla is taking a page from Porsche design by continually tweaking without a massive over design (BMW). I would like some “Premium Package” upgrade options but when you add the superior technology and charging network at the Plaid’s current price in the US around $90,0000 it’s a compelling value for a super car that not long ago cost substantially more.

[@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834]

come on Bryan, this car is build for American Market, they don't have Roundabouts mate.

[@AutoEV]

Then why have they just adopted the same system for the Model 3 and soon Model Y, two of Britain’s best selling cars? Ridiculous idea putting them on the wheel.

[@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834]

@@AutoEV Oh, okay didn't realise...Europe has plenty of roundabouts..and so does the UK, Cheers Andrew

[@lizdersley9803]

The US does have roundabouts - not many and they mostly don’t like them. UK Plaid buyers probably won’t like them much either.

[@McNessie101]

Nice to watch a review in my own mother-tongue 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Here’s a tip for the indicator: you choose the one that leads in the direction that you’re going to move the steering-wheel! Solved!!

[@lizdersley9803]

But surely the point is that’s not true when the wheel is upside down.

[@McNessie101]

@@lizdersley9803 if you’re about to steer clockwise, you chose the indicator that’s on that side, which side the steering wheel is irrelevant

[@markharris7323]

Turn signals on wheel - with FSD Beta, you don’t use your turn signals into/out of the rotaries, as the FSD takes care of that. So the car is being set up for everyone to get to FSD usage.

[@AutoEV]

Which is even worse. Driving should be a privilege that is earned, not a right that is demanded. Sorry, it’s still a very poor execution of a basic driver functionality.

[@lizdersley9803]

FSD is also Musk’s excuse for not giving us a Head-up display. His obsession is killing Teslas for me.

[@davidpearn5925]

Remember that the chief engineer of the Model S is Peter Rawlinson who is responsible for the Lucid. Elon Musk’s ego has a problem with this fact.

[@stennordenmalm1735]

david, totally agree! Everytime Elon just hear "Lucid" or "P R", he is going into crap-talking totally.

[@ken-mb5cp]

He wasn’t the chief designer of Model S and Lucid is losing badly to Tesla and Elon. They’ll be bankrupt soon. Get a grip.

[@davidpearn5925]

@@ken-mb5cp gullible guy

[@EwanM11]

​@@davidpearn5925while its true Peter Rawlinson was at Tesla during the development of model s in the early days, and its also true that the Lucid is very well designed, its also true that lucid is loosing money at a phenomenal rate and hasn't a hope in hell of survival. Lucid might have done ok if Tesla didn't exist already.

[@Andersljungberg]

other countries may not have the same rules regarding roundabouts and flashing lights?

[@davidpearn5925]

Could it be that the stalkless version was rejected in the land of roundabouts and thus RHD was dropped ……….and then LHD sales dropped also and big discounting is the last hope ???.

[@John15293]

If you're going to proclaim to be the king of ev reviewers, you really should sort your production out (audio levels all over the place)

[@AutoEV]

Not sure we proclaim to be the "king "of EV reviewer, but thank you for your comment. Audio has always been our biggest issue, and we do endeavour to get it as best we can. As always, there is room for improvement in everything, so thank you for letting us know. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts.

[@Andersljungberg]

The levers at the steering wheel may simply be gone because it costs money and because Tesla can build the car faster and more efficiently. Tesla is probably thinking about that. other manufacturers do not make nearly as much profit on their electric cars according to information, e.g. Ford in the US reportedly loses money on every single electric car they manufacture

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

It tries to play in the luxury area - where it is under par, it is more in area of the M5 in terms where it wants to be? Beside all the positive what it is going for. If you like Tesla - and have the budget - that it is the car. If want a luxury limousine....there are better options.

[@scottbreseke716]

Now I want to get one.

[@Professor-Jack]

far to many bad things about all of whitch you have pointed out bad build price not worthy of the price talking about better build quality cars you have sold your self back in the day safety is a problem with this car. however wait for it there is 1 thing that's in the car I like is that movable screen wish the ford mach-E moveable screen is missing, speed is nuts in this car, and I like speed how long do the tyres last ? yes I agree the Y model is shocking to look at Elon Musk is nuts what is he thinking left hand drive silly indicator buttons about as useless as a Ash Tray on a motor bike thanks keep up the good work

[@RomaniaCarSpotting.]

Great Video love it but still i like the Gasoline cars and diesel cars

[@whocares264]

obviously a left hand drive in the uk is a non option, i guess i will buy a different tesla model, they are the best evs

[@marcbungener1877]

there is not roundabout in the USA. My view is EU, UK, Switzerland regulartors should force the company to add if if they want to sell the car here. Back in time the excellent hydropneumatique suspension from Citroën was not allowed in the US due to stupid regulation while not allowing this without a proper turn indicator would just be SANE. It’s insane to allow it here as is.

[@lizdersley9803]

So basically the same as my 65 plate S85D but with more of what I don’t need and a lot more of what I don’t want. The only reason to have a Tesla now is the charging network and even that is being diluted by making it available to non-Teslas. We’ve had four new Teslas since that first S85D, but sadly no more. Not keen on the BMWs, Jaguar sound as though they’re giving up, so I guess it’s Porsche or Merc next.

[@JonsTunes]

LHD has its dangers i.e lane changing, overtaking, cornering etc. I'm surprised the government/MOT hasn't had something to say about this. I know LHD cars are on our roads but the numbers are very low and restricted to classics, tourists..

[@karlInSanDiego]

No longer making RHD Model S or X for Britain, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Thailand, and frankly a ton of markets, is just stupid. I cannot understand the ridiculous decision, given that they were already building them that way. It changes almost nothing in the parts count. What were they thinking? Also, why are they not allowing custom orders for a very expensive car when they helped popularize that selling process? Maybe there is a bigger story there of Tesla's custom order only style of sales, not scaling well, at least for them.

[@markkennard861]

Maybe when the US market demand slows they might consider the RHD market.

[@karlInSanDiego]

@@markkennard861 Model S & X demand has been suffering for a long time. That's allegedly what led to the elimination of the RHD models, as an operations cost savings.

[@davedyer3654]

No stalks, so what? People will get used to it, it wasn't a problem for the road tester here, I didn't see him indicate. Should of done your homework the car knows which way you are going to go and automatically selects drive or reverse, in fact the arrow was on the dash telling you what was selected

[@AutoEV]

No, I disagree. It’s not intuitive and having them both on the same side is silly. I spent a long time with the car and still didn’t get used to it, and as I said, you end up not indicating at all which is wrong and can be dangerous. I don’t mind the drive selection on the screen so much, although I still prefer the column stalk on the previous car. But the lack of indicator stalk is a very silly idea. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

[@ogriboy]

If you are an ex BMW or Audi driver the indicator issue would not be a problem. It looks like a £60k car with a £100k price tag.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

More importantly, it drives like a 300k car and will last like a 40k Toyota... And has a technology as well as safety like nothing else at any price

[@mhsohel47]

Indicator will be obsolete when auto indicator will introduce. Just put a adress and press on brake pedal (auto shit, no gear stalk needed) and go. Car will do every turning signal for you. How cool and easy that would be just like auto turn off imdicator now.

[@Professor-Jack]

iv fixed the text I'm sick of predictive text I type fast I for get to proof read sorry. anyway I left out I red a article on insurance a guy has 2 Teslas £1800 for both however due to bad build and Tesla parts becoming expensive the insurance they were with wanted £5000. this is something I am going to take on board as I'm still making up my mind on what EV SUV car I buy

[@Andersljungberg]

Tesla is considered to have good sound System

[@RJPick1]

Left hand drive only, silly indicator buttons and inventory only availability. They obviously don't want to sell any in the UK.

[@georgetan35]

Great Review :)

[@outfoxthefox]

The way things are going, the price will equal the insurance premium.

[@steveyoung8376]

indicators wont be a problem in a few years when full self driving is fully operational

[@AutoEV]

God help us all then......

[@shou635]

You need to play with the suspension settings more.

[@colinrenfrew48]

The price, the build quality and its LHD? Nope.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

Build quality is not an issue here... Anyone who says so doesn't have a clue, no other car that's even close to this performance doesn't have a 8 year 150k mile warranty, interior is another area where people do not realise that you'd have to pay 10k extra for extended leather in Merc or Porsche to get better materials, only area of compromise are panel gaps on some units which are also much better now

[@FrankLowe1949]

Tesla plaid in South Africa we don't even have electricity

[@youtubuzr]

Good grief. *NO ONE* screws up user interfaces like Tesla. OMG.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

I’m still smarting about the nonsense my ex-trustees gave me over even looking at electric vehicles!! I decided to get an EV called a Renault Zoe. I’m glad I did because it’s much cheaper to run than a petrol or diesel car!!

[@MrGMawson2438]

Tesla Model S Plaid fast as funk

[@ksawinter]

got fed up with you saying "but it's not perfect", so switched off.

[@SeahawkMoments]

Would you say the S Plaid and X Plaid are no brainers now that they are $87k USD?

[@AutoEV]

I wouldn’t say that, no. There are better cars to buy, even at that money. The big draw is the ease of use of the charging network, but dynamically there are better cars. That isn’t to say the Tesla’s don’t have their appeal, but if you don’t need the space offered by the cars, I’d go smaller and better.

[@SeahawkMoments]

@@AutoEV smaller and better as in the new Tesla 3? I do love the size of the S but no longer the (too many issues). If the S Plaid drops any more in price I don’t think I can not go with it……Help!

[@AutoEV]

@@SeahawkMoments haven’t driven the new 3, but I’d say the Polestar 2 is a better car anyway, as is the Hyundai Ioniq 6. The Model S is a compelling argument at the money, but not necessarily the best car available. Build quality still poor for the money, but there’s no arguing about the performance!

[@richardblakey3345]

No indicator stalk. Change ‘gear’ on the screen, 1020bhp , for £113,000. Only a psychopathic megalomaniac could come up with something so close to being brilliant, but ending up being like a bad trip on LSD. Nope, still not going near a Tesla.

[@paulhammond5599]

LHD obviously not interested in sales in U.K. and other RHD countries of which there are a few.

[@karlInSanDiego]

I think the right way of assessing the Plaid is to examine what's different. Dangerously fast, less efficiency, built for hooligans to crash cars. In other words, this car should never have been built. If a Model S wasn't fast enough for you, you need to grow up. It's not a good track car, and frankly in a Climate Crisis, track car is a stupid product also.

[@PhilT993]

No radar and no ultrasonic sensors now.

[@inclusivelove5165]

Problem with a Kia is that no matter what it is built with Kia standards. Will be a Kia. Buy one and drive it you will see. I have owned over 20 cars the past 20 years. I have owned Germans Japans USA and very good Kia. I talk from my experience.

[@shou635]

White holds up well. Even with kids.

[@fastfreddy19641]

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[@steveyoung8376]

yes a Ferrari that can do 200mph cant fit.a family of 5 with suitcases and be comfortable to drive around town. 0-60 in 1.99 is just to prove a point that EVs are fast

[@lizdersley9803]

They proved that a long while ago. Now they’re just being silly.

[@shou635]

3rd parties are soon to come out with stalks for the people that want them.

[@JETBYE]

It's a Tesla not Tezla pronounce it right

[@karlInSanDiego]

Sorry but 300 miles "real world" vs. 375 WLTP vs. 345 "real world" EV database range doesn't sound like Telsa getting very close to those official figures. Remember, Tesla has come under fire for spoofing their range with a misleading range gauge that was optimistically staged by Elon Musk, despite engineers having a better way of giving a real world prediction. In fact, Tesla does give real world range when you set the nav. So let's give Tesla credit for being the first of many to lie about the real world range, despite their very good efficiency. Will people who pay extra money for 1000 hp drive the car efficiently? No, they will not. They will drive it with maximum inefficiency. The base models for all Tesla's are stupid fast. This car is a menace and should not be insurable.

[@sananton2821]

Tezla? Did you skip school?

[@alexanderishere1857]

I think this 'difficult car to place' is a complete red herring. Why can't new cars be something new? Or a hybrid? Wanting at all cost to box it into an exisitng box, only says more about your 'need for structure and things to be as they always have been' personality than it says about the car. It was the same thing people said when the Ipad came out "it's not really a phone nor a pc" or the digital watch "not a watch and not a calculator". You need to consider your own biases and assumptions my friend.

[@AutoEV]

Wow, harsh. I get what you are saying, but human nature always has us trying to draw comparisons with what we know, and as we are channel geared towards car buyers, we have to deliver our thoughts on who might be looking at the car, and how they may perceive it. It isn’t a bad car, in fact as I state, it’s my favourite Tesla, but what customer may look at it. It isn’t a new car remember, the Model S has been around for a long time, and I say that size-wise, it’s an EQE or i5 competitor, but with the performance on offer it competes with many others. Not sure why you suggest there are any biased assumptions at all?

[@alexanderishere1857]

@@AutoEV Thanks for the answer. First, I'm not sugesting that you are biased against Tesla. Just that there is no need to try to box it in to an existing box. Now, you might want to do that in order to be able to communicate to your viewers what kind of a car it is. This is probably useful. However, if you cannot put it into an existing box, cannot in itself be a negative. Right? It might be annoying for someone who has a mental need for structure, but it actually says nothing negative about the car per se. Having said that, I liked your review and agree with almost all the rest. I just suggest you have a look in the mirror for why you see things that might be 'out of the box' as inherently a negative.

[@shou635]

3rd party is working on stalks. Soon to be released. Relax

[@carlsmith5545]

I love EVs and i would love to get one but due to wisdom and patients, i have decided to wait instead of rushing into one. The EV must be greatly improved before i boast it over anything. What i need in any car is size. I need a full size (luxury) automobile and im sorry, i haven't seen one yet. Tesla dosent make a big luxury car model. Also because i drive from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Jacksonville Florida twice, sometimes 3 times a year which is 831 miles, i need a long range car and sorry, i haven't found one in an EV. And you should be able to fully charge an EV from 0 to 100 percent in 7 minutes or less instead of 15, 20, 30 minutes or more. If you think im going to jump up an down and swear by an EV with sht for range, think again. Now if someone out there knows about an EV that meets the description i just mentioned, please point the way. Otherwise I will keep my jaguar XJl. I fuel up once sometimes twice a month, and takes me 7 minutes or less to fuel and that includes running in and grabbing a coffee. My range is 515 miles which means i only have to make 1 stop between Pennsylvania and Jacksonville Florida. Improve the EV and i will definitely be more than happy to buy one, immediately.......

[@availablepublicly39]

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[@ohyesitsme]

Probably buy an M3 for the price of the insurance. Wouldn't buy anything from Musk.

[@FlyWithTyy]

Lol the model s plaid is not £113,400😂 it’s only £70,000. Why are people always trying to dog Tesla😂 what a shame.

[@AutoEV]

In the UK, the list price of the Model S Plaid is £113,400. The Long Range is £93,000.

[@rayshepherd2479]

​@@AutoEVIn the US the price was dropped to $89,900 with 19 inch tires and black interior.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

There is a massive problem alright. Elon Musk is a Russian collaborater.

[@EwanM11]

Why?

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

@@EwanM11 I don't know why. I just know he denied Ukrainian access to the Starlink satellites for Ukraine to launch drones against Russian warships. Those warships then targeted Ukrainian ports and residential areas killing civilians.

[@EwanM11]

@@Nickbaldeagle02While true, it's a bit of a stretch to say he's Russian collaborator. Access to starlink was provided that has allowed the Ukrainians to mount a formidable defence on their own soil. Without it, their military couldn't function, let alone halt the Russian advance. However, it has not been enabled for the Ukrainians to mount attacks outside their own country.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

@@EwanM11 Crimea IS their own country.

[@EwanM11]

@@Nickbaldeagle02 The rest of the world hardly cares. Noone lifted a finger. Crimea has been occupied for ages. Starlink prevented further expansion of Russia into the Ukraine but it doesn't enable a retake. Obviously this would be desirable but to call him a Russian collaborator is flat out wrong. He would have got less criticism if they'd never deployed starlink in Ukraine in the first place.

[@GrrMeister]

*Cheaper running costs are a huge delusion unless you have access to 'free charging' - And even if able to charge at home the lowest rate you can achieve in the UK is Economy 7 overnight at around 35p per KWh. On Motorway Services the cost can be as high as 85p per KWh which when worked out makes it in fact more expensive than any car capable of 45 mpg or better. I over the last 12 months have spent many hours looking into this dilemma, and at the end to cut it short have recently purchased a Mercedes B200 CDi AMG registered May 2019 with 81 Miles on clock for around the same price, which surpassed the latest Euro 6 Emissions standards and can achieve up to 86.3 MPG (as I have over 90 Miles on my previous model (W246). This with it's superb quality and 'State of the Art' incredible 'Infotainment system' is light years away from this ridiculous American import. You will not recover the addition cost of an EV within the life of the vehicle (battery's)*

[@Hell-Hound1]

We are paying 9p per kwh on cheap rate, and 7p is available on some tariffs. Peak rate is only 27p per kwh.

[@GrrMeister]

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[@EwanM11]

You need to redo your research. My daytime tarriff is 30p/kWh, night tarriffs are available from 7.5p/kWh. My local supercharger charges 44p/kWh. My model 3 performance costs peanuts to run. If you don't have your own driveway to install a charger, you probably can't afford this car. That said, I'm sure the mercedes is a very good car, but i wouldn't knock the features of Teslas and the battery life of modern Teslas is likely very good. They aren't nissan leafs or first run model S.

[@stennordenmalm1735]

I must say Tesla have a massive homework to do. The competition kicks this Tesla out in the water imo. It is old looking, very booring, and lacks A LOT new tech to keep up.

[@davidpearn5925]

Elon Musk’s attention span is too short and the ego needs too much polishing time. Follower numbers are his constant obsession.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

Which car kicks this Tesla out of the water? Name me one...

[@davidpearn5925]

@@lukabosnjak3829 the premium Germans - because they aren’t forced to heavily discount (after previous discounts) in order to shift their stock. Musk lost interest years ago.

[@denyswoodroffe490]

A very boring presentation, I could never listen to this again.

[@AutoEV]

Sorry you didn’t enjoy it, but thank you for watching it first time. At least you don’t have to watch it again now…..

[@fredbloggs6342]

Only a fool would spend that kinda money on a left hand drive car in the uk.