Tesla Model Y LR winter range test

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[@slartybartfarst9737]

DIN Bjorn building reference data base on all Teslas and subsets all Tesla power train variants. This is game changing stuff Bjorn been at this for so long, so consistently we all have the zero BS comparisons needed for the EV industry and buyers. This is a one man one DIN department, thanks Bjorn.

[@grahamhorne596]

Hi Bjorn, can you do a towing comparison between Tesla Model Y and Kia EV6. I don't think anyone has done one yet. Andrew Ditton is using the EV6 to tow a caravan and I wonder how it compares to the Model Y for fuel efficiency

[@grahamhorne596]

@@xeon2k8 ok, I will rephrase. "Would be nice to know how much electricity they burn" 🤣

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Bjorn, we took delivery (In Canada) of my 2023 Model Y Long Range AWD Fremont build on May 7th, 2023 my critical inspection found nothing wrong, this model finally has the LED projection Matrix lights (no adaptive function other than the light show) same as what the Performance has been getting for some time in Canada. I stipulated this with my Tesla agent and he confirmed the lights. I notice some recent deliveries in the USA of the same model still has all reflector LED lights, just guessing Tesla made preference to Canada having this upgrade as we have a lot of wildlife on many of our routes. First thing we did was make a 330KM round trip and try out the supercharger, my 2023 Ioniq 5 failed DC Charging 2 weeks after taking delivery that I tested it, I was a little gun-shy. As normal it worked, but made me comfortable with the car, and love the efficiency on my first highway trek!

[@oisiaa]

I have a 3 and my wife has a Y. The Mode Y is a phenomenal car! I can't put it into words, but the Model Y is just fantastic!

[@andreac7389]

Hi, y suspention comfort compared with 3? Thanks

[@jct4111]

Could I ask how the handling of the two compare? Can you tell the Y is heavier or feels less of a sports car than the 3?

[@oisiaa]

@@jct4111 The Y feels more substantial. The 3 is definitely sportier, but the Y is plenty sporty for most people. The Y feels more solid.

[@sargfowler9603]

It'll be interesting to get hold of a 4680 equipped model Y and test its range.

[@rui569]

Bjorn is always happier in a Tesla

[@KS-vk5pc]

So am I. I sold my Model 3 and bought a ID4. Had it for three months, then I ordered Model Y. Then I was happy again. Tesla is the cars I’ve been most happy with. To be honest: usually I’m happy when I’ve sold a car, but not when I sold Model 3. I guess I’ll be happy when I sell Model Y. Then I’ll get a new Tesla😊

[@victorc.979]

@@KS-vk5pc in a Porsche gts/turbo, or a lambo, you are more happy

[@KS-vk5pc]

Will for sure be more happy in a Lambo, but the car is useless for me. Porsche is nice, but I will never ever again get an ICE car, and for EV’s today I have the perfect car for me. Not the best car, but the best EV for me.

[@victorc.979]

@@KS-vk5pc i like a lot tesla, my mum have an model 3 SR+ and my dad an Q8, but if I we could afford, I would definitely want an Porsche😄

[@theinsiders4561]

@@KS-vk5pc well, ask anyone that has driven a Tesla and a Taycan. They will choose Taycan.

[@doubledutch13]

Optimus Primes Scottish brother has been changed for a MYLR. I love it. ❤️

[@perbjoyahoose22]

I am in Sweden. Have a late -21 model Y LR driven 76000 km. Averaged 186 wh/km since new. Maybe 30 % motorway if i should guess. Also has acceleration boost since new. Tested other cars but for the effiecency aspect the Y is king in the smaller SUv segment. Performance is good.

[@ท่องเที่ยวทั่วโลก-ฑ2ฑ]

RIP Randy from Savage Garage. KZbin Legende in the KZbin World😔

[@abdiaziznuur6006]

Thank you so much for doing this tests. Hats off to you Björn

[@Ianmundo]

with the sound system, it’s important to fade the centrepoint to the rear, otherwise you just hear the big soundbar from the front. The huge glass roof creates a massive surface to echo off, not good for audio quality

[@fredrikfjeld1575]

Haven't tested a lot of other cars, but compared to the ID4 and Ioniq 5, the Tesla was in a whole other league when it came to the soundsystem. When it comes to him having to have the volume at 80% I think that rather is the Bluetooth unit that gives low volume. The radio is a lot higher, volume vise. Might also be my phone that has weak sound

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect. I don't use Bluetooth. In most of my audio reviews, I point out that I use uncompressed wav-files from USB stick.

[@fredrikfjeld1575]

@@bjornnyland well then that isn't the problem. I just notice that the sound of the radio is a lot higher than Bluetooth

[@ModPhreak]

@@fredrikfjeld1575 radio has brickwall limited audio, ie. It's made to be louder and less dynamic. But yeah depending on car FW and playback media you don't get the same level.

[@TheArminOF]

Regarding the sound I noticed the same in my M3 from 9/21. They might have changed something in the system at that time for the worse because the test M3 LR I drove in June 21 had way better sound. I had to turn down bass and treble levels in the EQ significantly to achieve a more linear sound without boomy bass and sharp treble. Still, I am not really satisfied. Sound drivers seem to be cheap quality with slow response and not much detail.

[@andreac7389]

maybe a so large panoramic roof is not optimal for sound?

[@GoncaloRijo]

If you don't share data with Tesla, how can they improve? The battery improvement only happened because some of Tesla Owners decided to provide access to that precious information.

[@seb.]

Map is really a downside, it's almost 1 year old (EU-2021.8-12875), it would still try to make me use a pedestrian-only old road... I wish they would use openstreetmap. For the cabin sound/noise, I wish they would offer retractable sun blind, surely that would avoid noise echo.

[@Bessunger]

Thanks for the great and consistent work!

[@nickieredshaw7835]

Thanks for another great video more info that we all need very good comparison videos

[@wimdsock9419]

Another excellent video. Thanks 👍

[@andreanenc6451]

Which are the three test songs? I want to test my audio too with TeslaBjorn approved songs 😃 Bjorn keep keep going these way I’m so amazed by your professionalism, dedication to the tests, reviews etc. You’re great! 👏

[@kead6636]

I am really enjoying this channel, real opinions, pros and cons and not just selling the car. For someone who drove a lot of evs, do you have a comparison or summary video or written somewhere?

[@apple4youngsters874]

please redo the range test with the iX in summer ... would be interesting to see

[@MrPikkoz]

Can't wait for the 4680 Berlin made Model Y. With structural battery and megacast in front and back of the vehicle they can reduce the overall weight ti 1.8-1.85Tons ,aside of the efficiency increase from the weight loss alone, Tesla could use narrower tyres (due the lower vehicle mass) improving the efficiency without sacrificing the grip , this should also improve the confort since a lighter vehicle allows softer spring and the narrower ,thus lighter, tyres should cope with the road better.

[@dragospahontu]

German Auto Tesla ftw💪

[@David_Polak]

@@biachboy You can get aftermarket screens with that feature, if that's what holding you back from buying one.

[@peterhelm522]

@@biachboy when you drive one longer, you will probably notice you dont neeed that. Generally speaking people only see what the loose and do not see what they get.

[@beartr2626]

i had various sound systems on my other cars like BO and HK, but Model Y premium sound system is another level imho

[@David-ok5cu]

Bjorn, could you do a battle between 2x similar tesla. One without batterie pre heating And the other with the standard navigation on. Then comparison, total consumption and time on a longer track. Im sure you have nice reflections about this topic. I already have an idea of the ending…

[@electriccarstv]

Perfect

[@M0j0]

Some people have said that the made in China model Y sound system doesn't sound as good as those made in Fremont...

[@loganrossignol]

The trebble thing I also noticed in my 2018 Model 3. Had to turn it way down. Some songs with "S"s in vocals were so sharp that it hurt my ears

[@bilgyno1]

Amazing efficiency! NB one error in the EV6 numbers: battery size is 77,4 kWh instead of 72,6 kWh (number of Ioniq 5).

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. My numbers are correct. I list the actual energy you get out. What you mention is the manufacturer spec (nominal, best case in a lab).

[@EugeneHoochie]

It was a direct report by BMS, the difference is dissipated in the battery as heat (as bms can't measure the output before internal resistance). True that effective value looks pretty much like ioniq 5 capacity, catches the eye 😉

[@bilgyno1]

@@bjornnyland Ah that makes sense. I'm now at 143 Wh/km in the Ioniq 5, going for ~450 km on a full charge. That implies a little over 64 kWh useful. I believe there might be about 30 km left once you hit 0% (as shown in some "we drove this EV till it stopped" videos), so about 4.3 kWh might be hidden there. Then there would be another 4.3 kWh that you cannot get out. That's a pretty big difference compared to the spec. Especially since the conditions are now very ideal for battery comfort. Around 15-20°C outside. I'm going to charge the battery from as close to 0% as possible and see how much it takes. Obviously, also the consumption figure might be incorrect. I did have one charge session with 69 kWh added, but don't recall the starting SOC. Also, there will be some charging losses.

[@tuxerware]

Seems like the Enyaq is a pretty good deal, almost the same range as the model y and is 200k less than model y(in sweden).

[@dragospahontu]

Yes because you can get the Enyaq 2wd with the big battery. It is actually very efficient, but it can't charge as fast as the Tesla's.

[@psycomorph]

Hej Bjørn. Tak for nogle rigtigt gode videoer👍👌 Der går nogen rygter om, at Tesla model Y LR kører længere pr. Kw , hvis man har tilkøbt Boost pakken. Det kunne være interessant med en 1000km test i en TMY LR med Boost upgrade. På forhånd tak.

[@luisfernandes4145]

I would like to see a charging video, if it's possible...😊

[@BS-eh1zf]

The low beam is pretty bad aligned. It shines about 100m to the front. Should be ~50m

[@ohyeahhhuh]

Bjorn I’m getting 218 Wh/mile over 16,000 miles of ownership…I have a standard range MY from March 2021 from Fremont…no one seems to be talking about rear wheel drive MY and it’s crazy efficiency…

[@suvari225]

Yeah I had that one, too. It was crazy efficient and also light. But it lacks the range and I sold it for a good profit.

[@lachlan5165]

That's great info to know. We will be getting a Standard Range here in Australia soon and it's so hard to find info on the standard range efficiency. Thank you!

[@lachlan5165]

What efficiency do you get at freeway speeds 65-70mph?

[@ohyeahhhuh]

The highest I have seen at freeway speeds is probably 240 Wh/mile…

[@lachlan5165]

That's great information thanks a lot!

[@TheEdmaster87]

The late 2022 and new 2023 models should have better sound and soundproofing from the tires outside, I am crossing my fingers

[@Kvazimodaz]

I'd like to pinpoint error in spreadsheet... Skoda Enyaq season - Summer with 7-9 temp, but Volvo C40 season Winter with 10-12 temp... BTW impressive efficiency for Enyaq... 166 Wh/km with 21' wheels...

[@bjornnyland]

Summer = summer tires Winter = winter tires

[@Kvazimodaz]

@@bjornnyland My mistake :) Thanks for reply :)

[@Arpedk]

Did the new Berlin made or new Shanghai Model Y's arrive in Norway yet? These should have bigger batteries and more sound proofing at least double pane glass front and back.

[@DG-uv3zw]

It will take time for Berlin made Y...

[@ahmed624354]

Rock solid autopilot!! what about phantom braking? my MY is a nightmare, maybe here in the UK. Autopilot is no better than most.

[@bjornnyland]

No phantom braking.

[@David-ok5cu]

Model y the new king on the road 👑

[@pedronunes1353]

Até you planning on testing the 2022 model Y, that comes with a bigger battery pack (LG 5L that has around 75 KWh net capacity instead of 70 KWh)?

[@MartinStenport]

Is this a standard autopilot?

[@donkulous9165]

Hey so at 1:00 looking at that rear tire the rotation looks to be backwards. Just something you should know Bjorn.

[@TheAbcdhjkl]

The arrow is pointing in the correct direction.

[@tridruankham2657]

❤❤❤

[@guidomescalito]

(6:20) It really annoys me that the battery destination percentage is buried in the navigation. Why not show it on the bottom tab, so you can always see it? I think it was this way in V10. My last major gripe with V11.

[@bjornnyland]

It used to be always visible. Latest software update sucks.

[@34Realist]

how much does the car cost in norway depends on whether it is also economical 6

[@jct4111]

Right guys what sort of real range am I gonna get with a Y LR in UK winter? Had a 3 RWD in the summer and from 100% charge I used to get around 130 miles (lots of super short trips). What should I hope to get with Y LR in winter? I’m really hoping for at least 150!

[@user-vu4tf3eb9l]

This or the model 3 ?

[@pauli2753]

A bit disappointed to see pretty much perfect conditions... No wind, dry roads and the only difference to the previous range test was the temperature which is pretty much optimal for the heat pump aswell... So IDEAL winter conditions for the Model Y... and the original range test had ideal conditions aswell. Just saying this out loud as wind, wet roads, even lower temperature. etc can affect the efficiency very substantially (easily 20% even if you drive a loop) so any conclusions based on these results are pretty much moot.

[@vlad2838]

Is it just me or is road and wind noise significantly higher than with competitors? That would be fatiguing on longer road trips.

[@David_Polak]

It is more than a Mercedes or Audi, and the suspension is firmer.

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqvJh5Vje8t7l9k

[@theipc-twizzt2789]

If I set my M3 to 80% I would become deaf. Iphone with Apple Music via Bluetooth. Everything above 1/3 is uncomfortable. I am also using it at higher speeds (130 km/h). Is the soundsystem in the Y much different?

[@MartinGalway]

I assume you turned off DSP effects on the music before making those comments? Dolby Surround or whatever

[@bjornnyland]

Of course.

[@eddie8742]

I noticed while driving from Copenhagen to Oslo during the weekend that all Teslas, and all electric cars on the road (which were very few until we arrived to Norway), were driving at max. 120 Km/H, even though Tesla owners normally drive way above the speed limit in the city. Bjørn, what happens with battery consumption above 120 Km/H? Does it skyrocket? Have you ever run tests above 120 with Teslas or other cars?

[@bjornnyland]

Consumption above 120 km/h doesn't skyrocket in a Tesla. It might be in legacy automakers with poor aerodynamics. Optimal speed for arriving the fastest is about 150-170 km/h in a Tesla.

[@investmentcouple3771]

I drive 180-220km/h in a Tesla on autobahn. Works perfect but range is 150-180km at that speed

[@Himai2]

When will you test the new Model Y with double glass windows?

[@bjornnyland]

Already tested several times.

[@sbrubak]

This is not winter conditions. Cannot use this to compare tests done under actual winter condition.

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect. These temperatures are in fact common in large parts of Europe during winter.

[@sbrubak]

@@bjornnyland, Sure it still isn't comparable to your other tests done in norwegian winter conditions. This is only marginally different to norwegian summer conditions. You are free to redefine what your tests should test, but once you do they are no longer comparable. If you now will use southern/middle european climate as a benchmark, then by all means do, but make it clear that goalposts have been moved.

[@dpie4859]

Question to all Tesla Owners below- My 2021 Tesla Model 3 LR has about 22.0000km total with 168wh/km. I also got the acceleration boost. Been driving it for 2 winters snd one summer as i got it in December 2020. Seems like my consumption is very low. I live in Switzerland so there are lots of hills and we have proper winter here. How much consumption did other Tesla owners have? Please answer below:

[@DreamBrakers]

I also have a model 3 LR with 10000km almost 1 year old. I mainly drive secondary roads not many highways. I’m from Belgium and mainly drive highways in the Netherlands (max speed 100kmh during the day). Average consumption 1 summer and 1 winter of 143wh/km.

[@ZEFElectric]

I got the same car in December 2020 (LR with 19’ alloy rims), I have 30.000 km with average consumption 176Wh/Km. I live in The Netherlands but most of my drives are short drives or long highway trips quite sportive when driving in Germany ;)

[@nielsvandenkieboom5034]

My SR+ 2021 with LFP and 19 inch wheels has hit 95 Wh/km average on the highway a few times now. Weather a bit under 20 degrees, almost no wind and 100-110 km/h. However, I live in the very flat Netherlands. So that should be something to factor in as well.

[@dpie4859]

@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 But what is your lifetime average on the car?

[@nielsvandenkieboom5034]

@@dpie4859 I’d have to check in the car itself. Will get back to that when I have the chance!

[@hrpzwift945]

Doesn't the model Y have 75 kwh net capacity on the battery ?? (or was it 79 kwh) You wrote 70 kwh !!

[@bjornnyland]

This is the old version with the smaller battery.

[@hrpzwift945]

@@bjornnyland what is the net capacity now 75 or maybe Even 79 kwh or what ?, do you have a range test of a model y with current battery ?

[@theunknownunknowns5168]

Bjorn, do you think Tesla improves their products (cars) quicker than other manufacturers? Claims have been made they can improve individual cars on the production line. Is there proof of this?

[@seb.]

It's well documented, Tesla keep changing bits on the car production lines as soon as they can (sometime not for the best), not waiting for the usual model years or refresh.

[@David_Polak]

It's a well-known fact. Watch Sandy Munro's channel where they take apart Tesla's and talks about production.

[@scottmccann4509]

Do you prefer the Immersive sound on or off?

[@MR-vj8dn]

I prefer it turned off.

[@istvanpeterkovacs730]

Hi! I’m very curious about Megane e.

[@dragospahontu]

The Model 3 is the efficiency queen.

[@tesla-spectre]

Exactly my thought. My M3LR had 176Wh/km over 8300km only winter (Dec-Mar). With 70% highway at 120kmh (sometimes 135 or 110) max. which seems the sweetspot for longer distance

[@krohner5190]

Model 3 is the range king but the reduction in winter is lower on Y. On the norwegian winter test Y had 11% while 3 had almost 14%. So Y is the efficiency king.

[@KS-vk5pc]

My Model Y had 177 Wh/km since end of november for 9138 km. Thats with trip to Denmark and Sweden, 1300 kg trailer, with a eMtb on a rack on the trailer hook and so on. So I think Model Y is quite efficent😉

[@dragospahontu]

@@rogerstarkey5390 ?

[@jensfos]

@@rogerstarkey5390 4680 is released in Texas. Worse range, smaller battery and barely lighter.

[@rui569]

but it goes to 11!

[@bheboxful]

Hi Bjorn, are you using a radar detector and if so, which model?

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. And it's illegal in Norway.

[@Neminik]

Is this AWD or RWD?

[@bjornnyland]

LR = AWD

[@KimCJorgensen]

Bjørn, where was this model Y built, Shanghai or Berlin? Sorry, 6 months old = Shanghai

[@DanneGuitarHD]

Only the performance model is produced in Berlin

[@brodiewolstenholme3086]

Bjorn, what file format is your test music saved is?

[@bjornnyland]

Wav

[@josebkk1]

Hi Bjorn, this tested MY has double glazed windows front and rear? Did you feel that BMW I4 is less noisy on highway?

[@bjornnyland]

Front only

[@norh05]

Are you going to test some of the chinese brands in the future? Nio and xpeng are both coming to scandinavia with the p5 and the et5, and I am interested in aiways.

[@bjornnyland]

All the Chinese cars are not ready. They say that they need software updates. This includes Hongqi, MG and Xpeng.

[@norh05]

@@bjornnyland ok thank you I hope they will fix the software issues. I have to drive 96 km to my place of work that is why I am looking forward to see your test of these cars.

[@djwarren5081]

What's going on? Bjorn gets younger looking 🤔

[@seb.]

He's getting a baby, that's why 🤣

[@deFruitberg]

This software version is more then one step backwards for me....

[@jkev1425]

Reseting a trip actually is easier know without swiping trough this crappy sliding small window on the left side.

[@stigronnysuleskard5299]

Mid-April is not winter... You might consider winter test to be below -10degrees , spring/autumn test to be 0-10 degrees and summer test +15 degrees

[@bjornnyland]

Have you ever been through Europe in winter? It's rarely -10°C in many parts of Germany, France, Belgium and Netherlands.

[@stigronnysuleskard5299]

@@bjornnyland Also summertires on now, compared to wintertires?

[@mzen68]

Do you use Immense sound option?

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@mzen68]

It’ll sound much better.

[@loyalklosburrel]

Always one person inside, I want to know range with 4 people inside also 50 kg luggage.. We have family and work to do.. That it will be a real range.. I searched bud didn't found videos with people inside

[@buddy1155]

Wintertest? it is spring for a month already.

[@ichigo19870]

Can you read a thermometer? 3-5 degrees are winter temperatures unless you live near the arctic circle…

[@buddy1155]

@@ichigo19870 I do not live near the artic circle but 3-5 degrees are absolutely not winter temperatures. Especially as lithium batteries start to loose power if it is freezing.

[@ichigo19870]

@@buddy1155 interesting even in North of Germany we barely have temps below 0 for most of the winter ;) not even talking about the whole of South Europe. So yeah, for 90% of the people 3 degrees is winter or wouldn’t you wear a jacket when it’s almost freezing???

[@MyRealNameIs]

@@buddy1155 i agree < 0 celcius is winter

[@buddy1155]

@@ichigo19870 That is BS, I live in the Netherlands so even a bit closer to the sea. Every winter it at least several weeks below zero. The whole point of a winter test is doing it under not ideal circumstances, 3-5 degree are great temperatures for a battery.

[@benedikt5974]

You drive on autopilot at 122km/h and Tesla sees speed limits of 110, 100 and 70 and the set speed stays at 122km/h. My car always adapts to the speed limit. How do you make it keep the set speed?

[@aigarius]

EV6: -10% range, Bjorn: :"lower range!", iX: +10% range, Bjorn: "same range!" i4: Am I a joke to you?

[@MrNikitir]

Because of superchargers!

[@DG-uv3zw]

Difference is much bigger so he just wanted to make a point. Also, latest model y has more net capacity than this, so yeah, same range as ix...

[@twotone3871]

A good test, but comparing the Model Y with BMW and Audi - that's nowhere near equivalent. As you know, in benign conditions, as for this test, the Model Y would by rear wheel drive only (the front motor wouldn't be engaged as shown in the scan tool) and you're comparing it to EVs with PM motors front and back. Yes of course the Model Y would use less electricity. A more fair comparison with BMW and Audi would be with a new Model X which gets PM motors front and back, when that arrives in Europe later this year (maybe).

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect. Audi e-tron uses induction motors (not PM motors).

[@twotone3871]

@@bjornnyland I stand corrected. Yes, the E-Tron uses induction motors. It uses two induction motors for AWD and hence uses more electricity than a Model Y which uses, essentially, one PM motor. Still not a fair comparison.

[@jurepecar9092]

So it's still consuming three times the energy Aptera is going to use? That's ... decadent ;)

[@bjornnyland]

But it can take 10 times more banana boxes than Aptera...

[@jurepecar9092]

@@bjornnyland Not sure about that, you'll be surprised ;) Better to say it can only take 2 people instead of 4 or 5.

[@kjartanB]

No wonder it doesn't sound good when the sound is neutered by having equalizer flat

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. I also tuned with equalizer but it still couldn't sound as good as Harman/Kardon, B&O and Burmester. You can't make gold out of stone.

[@larryspiller15]

I think the audio quality was due to a poor streaming source/quality and not the actual system equipment.

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect assumption. As always, I use USB stick with uncompressed wav file.

[@larryspiller15]

@@bjornnyland oh wow that is surprising. I wonder if the speaker are damaged or something or maybe they changed the manufacturer for the stereo in the China made model Y

[@MaltePersike]

For Germans the "new" MY and M3 autopilot without radar is the worst shiiiet ever. 130 km/h max is just abysmal. Hope they fix it soon. VW self driving works up to 180 km/h. Tesla should finally try to catch up. Other than that, my wife loves her MY from Giga Berlin. Even with the new UI.

[@jkev1425]

Even if we are living in central Europe here in Germany, we must learn that Germany is not the center of the world and there is a world outside Germany which don't give a shiiieet on driving more than 130, more or less every other state.

[@Xcuseful]

Or Germans limit the speed to 130km/h ;*

[@jkev1425]

@@Xcuseful I thing within the next 2 years it is quite likely!

[@MaltePersike]

@@jkev1425 There is nothing to learn. As long as Vmax on German Autobahn is not regulated nationwide, automakers wishing to sell their cars in Germany should respect that fact. Otherwise, one could spin your argument even further and posit that any car supporting a Vmax greater than 130 km/h is nonsense and should not be built. Which clearly is not how the world works. We must learn that.

[@KS-vk5pc]

Maximum speed for ID4 is 160?