Tesla's Secret Home Heating & AC System?

What wild new products is Tesla planning? In this video, we take a look at what an HVAC System from Tesla could look like and how it could disrupt the home heating and cooling industry.
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[@TwoBitDaVinci]

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[@robertchambers5821]

I will be purchasing two Tesla's, 3 power walls, Solar Panels, and an air handler with water condenser. Then all I need is the satellite connected WiFi! And that will be the point I'll say to our local government, "Have a Nice Day."

[@markplott4820]

Ricky - you are way off. Tesla in the GF1 plant manufactures 50% of the Entire worlds supply of Batteries. Tesla also makes some batteries for their Energy Products at their GF2 Buffalo plant , and more Recently GF3 in Shanghai also makes batteries but is not done Ramping up yet. and GF1 NV still has 35% room to grow.

[@marka9556]

@@markplott4820 Tesla does not manufacture battery cells, they buy them from Panasonic, LG Chem and possible CATL

[@DarkOkie]

This is interesting for us in Australia as it is not a standard here but does have merit also could promote why Tesla would need Factories in EVERY country!!! Hoping one day to have Tesla solar, Batteries, CyberTruck and use a VAWT (Vertical-Axis Wind Turbine) from Christopher Moore after his Kickstarter coming soon!! (imagine 2 small Vawt on your roof along with Solar Making enough Power each do to also make water for you home.... Add that to a Passive house + Rainwater Tanks + Grey water systems + Recirculating Showers... AND a Tesla (Or other company) Smart home system Power, heating, cooling, Cleaning the air in the home... wow?!

[@markplott4820]

@@marka9556 - WRONG, Panasonic manufactures the cells in a Facility TESLA owns (GF1) and Panasonic sells (TESLA) branded Cells to Tesla, made under License. and in the same Facility TESLA manufactures the Modules and the battery pack and Assembles the Whole Drivetrain. in China , Tesla made a deal with CATL to make Prismatic cells Under License for Model 3/Y in China. and in GF4 Berlin , Tesla will use LG Chem to make batteries Under License. this is GOOD for Tesla to diversify its Battery Supply , so that it can Avoid potential bottlenecks and disruptions. Tesla in 2 years will be the Largest Battery supplier in the World with 75% marketshare.

[@MrEddiekessler]

Ya man, The future is here. I'm 62 and never in a thousand years did I think I would see what I am seeing today. Bring it on ! Love the show this week'

[@TOMAS-lh4er]

IM 67 and I thought the same !! Im glad Im get to see all this happen

[@MrEddiekessler]

@@TOMAS-lh4er Thanks Tomas. I thought I was the only old fart that was amazed by this fantastic future we are seeing happening NOW. Oh ya, my wife just reminded me I am 63 Not 62. See what old age does... Ha Ha

[@TOMAS-lh4er]

@@MrEddiekessler YES ! OH , Renind your wife that we dont count the first year, it was for " orientation "

[@MrEddiekessler]

@@TOMAS-lh4er Thanks my friend, Stay isolated and healthy and we might just get to Live this incredible future.

[@TOMAS-lh4er]

@@MrEddiekessler SAME TO YOU BRO.!!

[@georgecrabtree2013]

I’ve been in HVACR for 35 years, the best and cheapest thing you can do to decrease your energy bill is to add another layer of insulation to your attic. The largest heat gain and loss is through your ceiling. Insulation is cheap and easy compared to a new unit and most people can do the insulation themselves.

[@greasyginzo]

Attic fan is very important also

[@lienct]

@@greasyginzo Lots of studies out there showing its not. It feels like it should be but the numbers don't lie.

[@jerelreed3688]

True to that!!

[@polarunion]

I'm a home builder in a northern climate (ottawa Canada). I am cutting the natural gas line and installing Asian cold weather heat pumps. I'm doing so at least than the cost of natural gas. It provides heating, cooling, and potable hot water. It works very very well. Less combustion, less high heat stress on parts, and zero emissions. The clincher is that the building envelope has to be double the insulation values we currently use. Easy enough because it's currently inadequate.

[@aviking6186]

Patrick Reardon Are you referring at the innovative all in one HVAC system made in Canada by Minotair?

[@polarunion]

@@aviking6186 No but I am aware of it. I'm using cold weather rated air to water heat pumps to produce hot water In the winter and cold water in the summer for heating and cooling. Floors are warmed in the winter, and hidden ceiling fancies are used in the summer. Cheers

[@christinearmington]

What a difference a year makes! Hope HVAC is coming! Definitely what I want.

[@rye811]

Its also worth considering literally everything Elon does is basically testing and launching products to live on Mars. A base on Mars will need hvac so may as well start figuring out what works here, how it can tie into solar and battery systems, how a water capture system could work, then when 'we' go to Mars everything is ready, tested, proven to sustain life.

[@Just_me_73]

Completley agreed. Everything Elon does is something that brings him closer to establishing a population on Mars. If he sees that it is going in that direction he is going to do it.

[@jayoliver3734]

Rye this is the very obvious point being missed by most.

[@chriszonie2444]

@William Arrington And a heat pump, which is an air conditioner running reverse cycle, can Heat...

[@Just_me_73]

@William Arrington You may be right. Didn't know that HVAC was only to cool air. Though it was to control and mantiene the ambiental conditions to a specified target. Thanks

[@Just_me_73]

@William Arrington Heating, ventilation, and air conditioning... maybe it's cools also.

[@EsotericArctos]

Zoning and variable speed fans have been around for many years with damping and home automation hubs have been around for a while as well and these systems can already do all the automation stuff that you've mentioned. All the technology to do room presence and zone control has been around for a long time. I usually find it's people not wanting to adopt it, or not wanting to spend the money to change what already works.

[@funkknob]

The zone-triggered systems already exist. The bulk of power savings will come from the compressor technology redesign, not the control system.

[@spurkster]

Yeah much rather would have the zones like certain systems have. (they are expensive, but worth it)

[@caru3257]

Low, medium and high settings are integrated in inverter technology unless you have a 15 years old a/c system.

[@eventhisidistaken]

The idea is "a little here, a little there, and pretty soon you have a complete solution"

[@IOMMatt]

Great concept. Free energy from solar, 24/7 operation from Powerwall. Heat removed by AC could be used to provide hot water. Captured condensate could provide drinking water.

[@bobcranberries5853]

The sludge that builds up in your condensation lines from your air conditioner is from dead skin particles that didn’t get caught in the filtration system and a moist cold wet environment that grows nasty algaes and some pretty undrinkable stuff. But if you have a top-notch filtration system with a UV light that sanitize the air and your drain lines are completely clean and bleached then it would be totally drinkable. But if it were me I would use that condensation to cool the hot gas line off the compressor to lower the amp draw making your air conditioner much more efficient. This wouldn’t work at all in a place like Arizona where there’s very little humidity. that being said you would need a variable refrigerant system with a pretty smart processor to handle the variable pressures that would be caused by no water on the hot gas line and then cool water being poured over the hot gas line after condensation begins. Lol Yes I’ve been thinking about this for years I’m in air-conditioning technician

[@lunatik9696]

These are the kinds of concerns people should be informed, but are not.

[@aerithgrowsflowers]

Truuuee. That drain water can get really gross. I've seen bacteria grow enough to block drain lines on mini splits. We just put a window unit in and the outdoor fan picks up that drain water and splashes it against the hot coils like you were talking about. I thought that was brilliant. I'm no ac tech or anything although I sometimes wish I was. Y'all are expensive. I'd rather buy a window unit and replace it than have someone try to fix one of the other ones.

[@joeyknight8272]

Nice

[@iKingRPG]

I mean if bill gates can drink water that was filtered from poo I guess it is fine

[@BrettB246]

I just use my condensate lines to water plants. XD

[@freonsolutions5242]

One to watch for the future in the havac industry. Worth investment in

[@lifebychris5851]

Diakin already has a solar friendly HVAC system. I install them all the time.

[@davidiraheta7565]

Life by Chris what makes them solar friendly?

[@lifebychris5851]

@@davidiraheta7565 high capacity with ultra low power consumption

[@somethingsomething404]

@@lifebychris5851 so a standard ac that's more efficient? how is it more efficient? the only thing i could think of would be combining an evaporative cooler with a heat pump style compressor ac

[@lifebychris5851]

@@somethingsomething404 it runs on DC POWER has inverter technology not to mention both indoor and outdoor units are ultra quiet. Don't take my word for it get one and give it a try. You may find it to be better than I'm telling you.

[@owenhammett8042]

I wouldn’t recommend a daikin, they seem to need much more repairs than other brands of mini splits. My top recommendation would be Samsung, followed by Mitsubishi. Both great brands.

[@lloydelliott8737]

Perfect suggestion, way to go

[@american5564]

Tesla: We’re going to build HVAC systems HVAC Companies: ..shit

[@backwardsrun]

Not at all that industry has not a lot profit only selling for 7-12 % above cost. Ge was smart enough to get out and many others. The money is at install and there is 1000s of workers that will under cut tesla. He searching for the next big thing but a jack off all trades is a master of none and if his automotive side was doing awesome why would he be so desperate to find new things. He knows he's sunk,over leveraged and his fan boy/marketing time is falling hard. I wish him the best just don't see it.

[@mediaaccount167]

@@backwardsrun I don't know. Maybe he's smarter than you?

[@american5564]

handbookhomes remember when people said Tesla couldn’t succeed as a car company?

[@backwardsrun]

@@american5564 Tesla still didn’t turn an annual profit - in fact, it lost $862 million in 2019. But that was better than the $1 billion loss the company posted in 2018 they still haven't uless you call speculation on possible future products that they have made yet and there marketing to get there stocks over valued. My QUESTION to all the stock holders and fanboys of tesla are you in line to buy one right now what about in four months??? when the only thing longer then bread lines are unemployed lines.

[@american5564]

handbookhomes it’s the price of taking over of market. Tesla is putting legacy manufactures out of business. You know, you’re right. You should go all in on shorting tsla.

[@michaelomalley709]

I work in the HVAC and Refrigeration industry, Tesla would bring great innovation and competition to the industry!

[@chrisb508]

Having a complete Tesla home ecosystem would be really awesome (i.e. car, truck, solar, powerwall, HVAC system, purified water, internet, flame thrower...).

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

Great point!

[@eventhisidistaken]

...and also a boring machine for the underground tunnel, plus a rocket.

[@kenrichardson4144]

Great video! Thanks for sharing❗❗❗ 🙂🙂🙂 👍👍👍

[@oliverwunsch1743]

They just showed the heat pump in the Model Y, so let's think what's possible, they got a modern electric driven encapsulated high voltage HVAC compressor in the Model Y with a decent size. That single one is probably big enough for a small flat, and if you need more power, add another one and another one... now you can adjust the needed output much better, you divide the load over multiple compressors so they wear evenly, you got redundancy if one of the compressors fail, the other ones are still working.

[@jamesg6071]

Oliver Wunsch then with multiple compressors you create unneeded complexity. Introduce variable speed and a larger compressor and voila you save the customer cash

[@polla2256]

@@jamesg6071 not to mention modern compressors are quite reliable and also they are one the biggest component costs in an HVAC system.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nonsense, what you need first is a well isolated house

[@JMilosh]

The design of the air distribution ducting is the MOST important part of a quality HVAC system. That is where most homes are severely lacking. And this is why Toshiba and Panasonic have some of the best solutions to date.

[@bobcranberries5853]

Your not crazy, BUT..... inverter air conditioners with multi stage ECM blowers and zoning has been around for over 20 years already...... in fact all major brands already produce these systems. Lennox makes 25seer ac that is set up for use with solar, most other brands make inverter air conditioners with Seer up to 21. Variable speed refrigerant is the magic that makes zoning each individual room possible and it’s been out for 20 years + PS not being a troll!

[@shepherdsknoll8]

I don’t have one but if Tesla made one I would buy it because I trust the brand.

[@bobcranberries5853]

Yes they have quite a cult following me being one of them. But as an air-conditioning technician I can tell you that most of the brands that make these systems are trustworthy. Not all of them

[@starrwulfe]

I was gonna say the same. Zoned split system inverters are normal here in Japan.

[@bobcranberries5853]

Jason L. Gatewood 75% of are market is still traditional three-piece systems at about 15 seer and heating is a range of 80% efficient natural gas furnaces, heat pumps, propane, and oil.

[@jimprevo]

I was just looking at the Lennox system before I stumbled on this video. A lot of what is suggested is already in the market. I’m going to swap out a 1950’s vintage 70% efficiency system...for a 99% efficiency system. That will be huge. And I’m adding solar and hopefully a Tesla batter or two.

[@greutera]

It would be nice if Tesla would also offer an A/C option for older homes without duct work. Mini-Splits are currently the only option and something I could see Tesla vastly improving upon.

[@bobrutherford4749]

I think the HVAC business would be a great fit for Tesla.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nope

[@HollowBunnyPictures]

If musk actually wants to yes but if he’s not passionate no. He’s got much note important things to work on

[@chloekaftan]

it would also be a waste of time if tesla cant find ways to revolutionize hvac technology, which compared to rocket science and the car industry, is a very slowly developing technology. it wont be very profitable for them if it doesnt disrupt the current market trend like everything else elon has already done so far.

[@shawn2789]

But tesla not good for the hvac business.

[@billattewell2919]

I have become a Tesla believer in any project they pursue. YES build HVAC home integrated products. ALL IN ON TESLA

[@shepherdsknoll8]

I just accepted the Tesla roof tile estimate, I would love to have a Tesla HVAC system.

[@jonnyg44]

How much per square?

[@TheScottyRog]

shepherdsknoll8 what’s your location: I’m still waiting to here about our roof

[@shepherdsknoll8]

Scottzilla , N. California. It took a little over 30 days each time. After putting down the $100 on mytesla , a rep from Tesla emails , you provide electric bill and photos, a little over 30 days later you get a diagram and run down on costs, contract.

[@shepherdsknoll8]

Scottzilla , I didn’t really want the black tile but the price was very good especially with Fed and state credits. The bid includes powerwalls, for me two. I imagine they are pretty backlogged.

[@adolfodef]

. Tesla Solar Roof . SpaceX Starlink (Broadband Internet Satelite Receptor) . Tesla Power Battery . Tesla HVAC Module -> Tesla Home [Integrated System] . Tesla Electric Car [Your Home, but MOBILE] . Boring Tunnel [Your car, but UNDERGROUND] . SpaceX Starship [Your car, but IN SPACE (sub_orbital)] -> Tesla Transportation [Integrated Logistics]

[@Exaris79]

Since most air duct piping are typically made of galvanized steel or metallic, an RC car with a magnetic underside could be used to run around the piping&pull a string for the twisted pair(low voltage dc wire) cables that wired telephones normally used. Old style phones actually use the twisted pair cables not only for phone line communication but also to power the phone itself. An existing wiring can be fished around the house's pipings to power&control the vents but also act as a security sensor for the room.

[@BLACKNIGHTCODING]

I hope they do it. I'd get it in a heartbeat.

[@diacoder]

First-principles, the key to energy efficiency in housing is to improve conservation, not production. Tesla should go into building manufactured homes akin to something like Unity Homes. High-quality net-zero homes.

[@markplott4820]

LEED Certified homes are Expensive .

[@markplott4820]

@tech 52 - Bravo, sounds like quite a Project. I insulated my roof and attic, added a Whole House fan and Blown in Corning insulation for the walls. I now save about 30% more in Energy.

[@diacoder]

@@markplott4820 I am not going to say building green is cheaper. I think there is a correlation between electric cars and green homes. Green homes cover the LEED, Passivhaus, and net-zero standards and there are great articles describing the difference. If you look at the sticker price, it is more expensive. The even greater similarity is that the total cost of ownership is cheaper in the long run. The reason why the stick-built construction method is so popular is that it is relatively easy and cheap to build. But if just five percent extra (of the total construction) is spent on airtightness and insulation, the energy savings year over year would be huge. And just as the traditional car manufacturers very horizontal, traditional home building is very horizontal. If different trade crafts roll through a job site without a sense of the big picture for an energy-efficient home, it could take one tradesman piercing an air barrier that completely wipes out the efforts spent elsewhere. It will need to take a very verticle builder to reshape the industry.

[@yolo_burrito]

Regional differences matter. My South Florida home needs to be able to handle 140+ mph wind and heavy rain but not seismic activity and sub freezing temperatures. Homes are not a one size fits all solution.

[@joythought]

The idea of a vertical design and built housing system is very interesting. I think it's outside of Tesla's mission but the idea of factory built housing sections that drop in and offer low noise, low vibration, passive houses. Ideas such as a smart HVAC system that only heats or cools the areas where people are makes so much sense. That could be incredible. And a building manufacturing group like that would do well to incorporate a Tesla roof, etc. That would be my dream home.

[@00HiGhGuY00]

Well, I can tell you this, If Tesla made an HVAC system anything like what you're describing it would already be sub par. You should look into heat pump HVAC systems. Instead of running air ducts all over the house, they run conditioned refrigerant lines all over the house, which are much smaller and take less labor to install. These systems also have Inverter driven compressors that can ramp way down. They are WAY more energy efficient that traditional central furnace systems. Also because you are "making" cold air locally where it's needed instead of at a central location, they are by nature a zoned system. So you have control over the temperature in each zone and zoning is much more efficient when you are "making" or conditioning the air right where it's needed rather than at a central location and then using electro mechanical dampers to direct the flow of already conditioned air. These systems cost more upfront, but will save you money in the long run because they are cheaper to operate. Also there are some limitation such as if you live somewhere really cold. Currently the best I'm aware of are Mitsubishi VRF systems which can provide 78% of max rated heat output down to -13 deg F.

[@betterhomesnc2437]

You are under the assumption they are going to make an HVAC. Generally everything Musk has done to date is completely revolutionary and unlike anything else on the market.

[@escdb1068]

Daikin Altherma too.

[@daviddreyer5817]

A geothermal heat pump of getting heat out and into the house might save energy over a longer time. But insulation might be more efficient. When the sun goes down at night it might be more efficient to run the air conditioning and Visa versa during the day to run the heater. Fresh air is a concern so have electrostatic filtration system and auto self cleaning. Ideally if it was self cleaning would. The clean water used with a no film anticeptic cleaner to clean the unit.

[@Cody-mu5sj]

Tesla would put out a rebranded mini split

[@mattwolf7698]

You are describing a mini split. All of the houses in my area have heat pumps that blow heat or cold air through all of the vents in the house. I honestly wish my house used mini splites though, I'm tired of my family fighting over what the thermostat is set on and there's usually a big difference in temperature between the upstairs and downstairs. Central Air is pretty overrated.

[@redxsage]

*@Ricky* -- You are correct. Home HVAC would be an excellent move for Tesla. It will make a move to Tesla Home insurance that much easier. Excellent!

[@andreasl33]

It would make more sense to spray the water on the compressor for higher energy efficiency, than drink it. The radiator where it condenses is not clean/hygienic for drinking.

[@jamesg6071]

andreasl33 swamp cooling is not effective in non arid areas

[@MrJordanwain]

Even tough it’s condensed water it’s really not drinkable. Being a HVAC engineer you get to see some states in the coils. No matter how often the filters are cleaned dust still gets to the coils.

[@williamgoode9114]

Water from air is non sterile it's a stupid idea we pipe ours to vegie patch, same, fridge freezer. Which is an air blast freezer that bleeds to fridge -18 to +4, all off same compressor just air flow we balance, Centrex by S.Korea amazing machine, all our room aircons are Nexus, 0.7kw, reverse split, 2.4 equivalent, that's the future. All our lighting is Sengled. All our garden equipment is eGO, and all our rooves are panel constructed !

[@tieman3790]

Then it can be used to flush the toilet or something. A lot fo clean water is wasted doing that

[@mattwolf7698]

@@jamesg6071 I think he meant spraying it on the outside unit so the system cools even faster. Not using it on the inside unit.

[@proteslapower930]

I like your ideas on the HVAC system for homes. I believe also big benefit for commercial application and high-rises. In fact the Tesla solar glass may revolutionize what the outside of buildings could look like. If the small panels could be louvered and follow the Sun they could also be hardwired similarly along the edges. The material on the edges and darker sides of the buildings could look the same they just wouldn't have the solar built inside of it.

[@mattdecandia9607]

ductless mini splits have been around 40 years ..room by room etc 90% cheaper and so on they also cost much less to install I think Tesla can improve on this but the tech has been around forever .

[@akselwilliamdanenbarger7969]

Yes, I agree. I think it's a very good idea. Your example looks good too. 👍🏻

[@jasonmillner6416]

as a tech in HVAC I dont think you will see any of the ideas you mentioned come from Tesla except maybe water usage but that will be negligible. Ive heard the next level stuff they are working on has to do the the heat exchangers. probably using the water to cool the condenser. the problem with the modulating vents are running wires to each one is not cheap and then youd have to have a vfd on the compressor which is hard to recover the costs so I dont see it happening.

[@NotOurRemedy]

Jason Millner You’d need a VFD Blower, VFD compressor, and VFD condenser fan motor at the least. So we are talking VRF like Mitsubishi city multi/daikin. Well trodden ground.

[@michaelr6897]

I'm thinking mini splits

[@tunjitube17]

Although it would be pricey and expensive Tesla owners would more than likely pay for it regardless. Reason is people want the future now and that’s ultimately what Tesla represents

[@LightningStrikes66]

This would be Awesome

[@jeffsdavis]

5:44 - Is that even a healthy way to drink water? Best stock video clip choice ever!!

[@allenjefferis5105]

Your breathing the air into your lungs, taking it into your blood stream, why not drink it too, it's more volume and efficient.

[@jeffsdavis]

@@allenjefferis5105 Might as well inject it into our bloodstream!

[@toomanycooks4526]

Its just distilled water as byproduct from peltier effect. The reason we dont already drink the AC water is because it's usually contaminated by a big dirty heat exchange that has outdoor air moving over it. Seems like over engineering to resolve a problem that doesnt exist.

[@techbass9440]

They already make boxes that hold up to 3 hepa filters, as well as ultraviolet filters that are directly installed in the return side of a unit.

[@brianvelasquez899]

Awesome video! The concept art looks exactly what Tesla would put out.

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

Thanks Brian

[@schuggy4408]

Great visionary video. Keep them coming.

[@nWestie]

Tesla can and will build anything they want, they have best engineers in the world because everyone wants to work for them. They are also beginning to build a ecosystem, like apple, but bigger. Apple has made it so their products work seamlessly with any of their other ones, incetivising users to buy more. Tesla is doing this, but with physical things, not just computers. In the forseable future, Tesla could make you a whole house, and do it better than anyone else.

[@Bartender_Bill]

Of course another killer vid, Ricky! Couple things to consider... you touched on it ever so slightly but we (the masses) will come to understand that HVAC improvement is probably the most important element (besides insulation and sealing up the home) thing we can do for our health - creating a HEALTHY home. In short, there must be a NET POSITIVE AIR FLOW (like an operating room) for contaminants to be controlled. There needs to be a filtered inlet (hepa best of course) that creates a POSITIVE flow to extrude poisons like VOCs, RADON, and controls the humidity (minimize molds, insect and pathogen environments, etc). I see TESLA as being involved with ALL the above if (when) they get into HVAC. I suggest we all need to learn much more about “healthy home” construction to understand more what I’m talking about... anyway, GREAT segment as usual Ricky!

[@DavidKull]

I would buy one right away, as it is very expensive to run our current A.C. unit in Southern California. I also like the water capturing system, as we have hard water and needs to be filtered.

[@SD-tj5dh]

The condensed water will still need treatment as it would also collect any particulates in the air its condensing too. So u like what he says you won't be able to drink it straight from the condenser.

[@lisaroye4]

@@SD-tj5dh The Tesla system would have filtering built in

[@ThatGuy-cn2qv]

I have a super efficient ground source heat pump now. I purchased my 1st one back in 1991. I upgraded to an even more efficient one in 2010. If you have the room for the wells, it's the best thing going. Water Furnace is the brand I went with if you're interested. I have around 3400 sq ft and my entire utility bill runs between $120 and $180 depending on the season (all electric). (Central USA)

[@ThatGuy-cn2qv]

And there's nothing outside with these units. Everything outside is buried pipes to circulate the water down through the wells.

[@TimothyWhiteheadzm]

Re: water from the air is not a good idea. It is not 'pure fresh' by any means, and is in fact really dirty and would need filtering. Much easier to filter tap water and you are not limited by the humidity etc. True that some places may have issue with impurities in the tap water that are hard to filter out, but air conditioners too can have rust and other metals in the cooling system that get into the water. Generally just not the best way to get clean drinking water.

[@James-nader]

Timothy Whitehead agreed. He played a clip of a girl chugging a jug of water talking about drinking evaporator condensate and I was just like 🤮

[@court2379]

Agreed, it would be disgusting and full of dirt. Yes it is fresh water. You could drink it, but why would you.

[@locabal8354]

the condensate would have picked up particulates from the air, not to mention the risk of coolant contamination. The condensate is also not enriched with minerals like our tap water, which is akin to drinking distilled water (not good).

[@concious2]

That's not true, you are receiving pure H2O! There are impurities in the air true but the condensing eliminates the impurities! Peace

[@TimothyWhiteheadzm]

@@concious2 I challenge you to have a look at the water in the water tray of any air conditioner. Its horrible. It is also unhealthy (as Lo Cabal mentioned) to drink distilled water as it is missing a lot of minerals.

[@wearemilesfromnowhere4630]

I think the vent wires could definitely be run as a retrofit. Fun video

[@rebokfleetfoot]

absolutely they have some great solutions, but we have like a 4 year waiting list here in Canada

[@marksanders7988]

Just buy a Daikin, Fujitsu or Mitsubishi heat pump.

[@dlwhite1965]

Yes. Excellent analysis. Well done.

[@stanleymcomber4844]

I would love to see Tesla move into HVAC. It would hopefully spark a nice competition to reduce costs. But on the other hand there is competition already in HVAC, and they have all the bells and cool stuff already in hardwired VAV boxes and controls. But if Tesla can come up with a better way to peal a banana , I’d like to see it. The science for cooling has been around for a long time, and being in the industry most of the savings to be had is in the building itself. A well built, air tight home with an 80 - 85% furnaces/AC will out perform a sloppy built home with a 97% furnaces/AC.

[@ceb7894]

They should do it!

[@nmcalmond]

I would rather see a smart damper than smart vents. When you close a vent you're still cooling/heating ductwork in a sometimes very hot/cold attic.

[@lvtbus3167]

What is that? If the room at the end if the ducts is the one that needs cooling. What else could be used than sending the cool air thru but at least avoiding it going out on the sides to the rooms that dont need cooling? A dedicated vent to each and or a close off at a central close to the blower location so that vent does not even get air sent too in first place?

[@raindogs451]

Nate McAlmond No you’re not actually. You’re not cooling the duct in any meaningful way.

[@raindogs451]

Lv TBus that might be hard to do in most houses.

[@nmcalmond]

@@raindogs451 Of course you are. I know this from closing the damper on a walk-in closet that didn't need as much cooling. The neighboring bedrooms became noticeably cooler. Just closing the vent is not as effective.

[@nmcalmond]

@@raindogs451 I agree, but that would be more effective and depending on the climate, worth a few hours in the attic.

[@clnelson321]

Variable speed motors are the absolute bomb. My old inground swimming pool pump used 1800 watts. My new pump can go down to 50 watts when I slow circulate at night...huge savings.

[@chrislaf89]

I'd be super interested if Tesla makes a mini-split system vs a full on HVAC system.

[@jeffreymagni1272]

Mini splits are great. You get zoning by default and no ductwork needed. They can be ductless or use very little ductwork which increase efficiency. I would think minispit would be their best option, but why not offer both?

[@chrislaf89]

@@jeffreymagni1272 Tesla would probably have a common outside unit for that, and the vents could share some of the same parts as well. Just a difference of a central unit vs many small units. The vent units could have the same setup on the outward facing side.

[@wickham53]

Mini-split is the answer to most of the issues raised here. The only real problem is is that the wall units are not particularly attractive. If they could be built into the wall, between the sheet rock and insulation, they might look a lot better.

[@chrislaf89]

@@wickham53 newer models can be recessed into existing ducting. It costs more for them, but can be done. I'm looking at replacing my existing central HVAC with a mini split and using the existing ducting to run the coolant lines.

[@jeffreymagni1272]

@@wickham53 The system I had installed a couple years ago from Mitsubishi uses concealed units. There is a small price to pay on efficiency and it is more expensive to install because of additional labor but then you don't have the indoor units on your walls. They can put the units in a lower crawl space or up in an attic above or below each room and then run short inlet and outlet ductwork into the room. Ductwork heat loss is quite minimal because the runs are very short compared to a centralized system.

[@rickydee5863]

Hell yeah! Tesla would nail it

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

They should make the Tesla Hammer for similar reasons! :)

[@lindseyhatfield9017]

I was visiting a friend in the Australian Desert town of Oodnadatta, they have a solar powered water extracter installed in a shipping crate in town which has internal tanks full of crystal clear drinking water.

[@keylime2998]

So thorough & interesting. The Tesla house of the future. All energy related solutions in 1 home, fully integrated. Super cool!

[@cripplingdepression8889]

Agreed on pretty much everything apart from the "water from the air" The reason we throw out this water is because it's dirty and doesn't contain minerals, also getting water out of the air is most likely the most inefficient way to get water, it does work for space/mars applications as you have no alternative there and budget is not a problem but here it's just stupid, the dryer the place, the dryer the air. But overall yeah tesla could help a lot with HVAC solutions

[@ytSuns26]

Exactly why u started Air, Water and Ice way back in 2000. Hones in Florida produce lots of condensate, pure with the exception of copper or aluminum ions and environmental dirt. My device filter to .3 microns , then over a twin bed deionizer , then over carbon to a small pressure pump filling a 3 gallon pressure tank. I even feed water coolers. That idea was to soon, way ahead of the market understanding. So I built typhoon R.O.D.I. units for the reef keeping community.

[@ruic.mendes3041]

Haven’t heard anything new ... sounds like a very expensive system if anything , me being a pro at this .

[@extremejoy]

5:40 - I’m so jealous of that bottle right now... 🤣

[@JustfishNascar]

Definitely, Ricky, we need more efficient home systems. If we want to get the consumption down in the United States the system being used has to get more efficient.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

the first thing to do is to build better isolated homes and stop talking shit about already existing HVAC systems

[@vinnylamoureux1187]

Their expertise will make it the leader in HVAC.

[@michaelsmithers4900]

I love it! Integrating all this together makes so much sense. But I think what you’re talking about is really solid incremental change. Elon’s all about first principles thinking, what could they come up with that’s more first principles based like like putting A cooling loop in the ground do you some ground source heating/cooling. I think the integration should be the icing on a much larger cake, I’m just not sure what that is? Thoughts…

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

Good point. I think fundamental change can be thought of as this more integrated system. Having a system that’s smart and only cooling what it needs to is pretty first principles. Then add some of your ideas like the ground cooling heating... and they’d be quite the disrupters

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@TwoBitDaVinci stop talking nonsense, the system is called geothermal cooling and heating system and it exist since decades, Bosch has a very cool type of it and it works seriously well with heat pumps

[@uscjake868]

Tesla can easily design a better motor for CVT HVAC systems. They can simply improve the efficiency of existing style systems. It would be a value-add to their current product offerings.

[@robschultz9262]

In this video, it was pointed out the "energy efficiency" aspect of this solution and that is important but the bigger target is eliminating natural gas or propane use for heating a house and water in more northern climates. In Canada for example, every single house that is occupied for the full year has to be heated and the most economical solution today in most of the country are natural gas or propane, this I would expect to be true for much of the northern US and other more northern countries around the world (and the few in the southern hemisphere). Since it is used for HVAC heating, it could also used to heat water for the house (heat the water from direct solar input and hold temp from batteries for example, smart heating). From a CO2 perspective, northern residents have few alternatives, even geothermal units would have a secondary fossil fuel system to bridge any gaps in the temperature range from what can be produced vs what is needed by the house, plus it doesn't help with the hot water in the house. In order to be a viable solution and disruptive, a total solution to eliminate natural gas or propane from the system is needed. If Tesla came up with a whole home solution, solar, battery, HVAC (maybe with geothermal - have to get heat from somewhere with a heat pump) and hot water, this could be a viable 100% renewable option that could be deployed in many hundreds of millions of homes globally. The levels of revenue from multiple products being implemented would be substantial and align with the Tesla mission statement "is to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy". And coming back to the efficiency, all these could be controlled or configured by the Tesla app to maximize efficiency in every component in the overall system.

[@cmdoggy24]

Rob Schultz Heat pumps can scavenge heat all the way down to -15 degrees. No need to dig in a geothermal loop. Even cold air has a quantity of heat photons. Look up the efficiency stats on mini-splits.

[@davidelliott5843]

Heat pumps need power. Moltex Energy at New Brunswick in Canada are building a nuclear plant. (Oh yawn). This really is different (1) the hazards associated with traditional nukes have been removed so it’s cheap. (2) the radioactive nuclear waste will be their fuel. They will be using that up completely so those ultra long life elements will be gone turned into electricity. Check out Ian Scott Moltex.

[@gavinmcintosh7022]

@@davidelliott5843 The Soviets had small reactors in Siberia, 60kw designed to make heat not power. HVAC technology is needed for Elon's future plans. Starship and Mars will need humidity control (water from air?) They will need CO2 extraction too. Pumps, compressors, valves ie the sort of stuff used in HVAC and Eventilators.

[@joeyknight8272]

Nice

[@Pentix51]

you could heat your house with the sun now. solar into a heat pump from air. probably not enough heat during the winter idk but the tech is there

[@ben1canobe150]

Great idea

[@michaelmara1338]

Elon, please build a residential HVAC system and I’ll be one of the first in line!

[@AGON17]

Package units and hydronic systems would be great too

[@markbeckett3317]

Love your show

[@Leon9000130]

The most efficient systems that i've seen are ductless splits. They are able to heat or cool each room individually. Output and return pressures for every room are equalized. The pumps are multi speed, with some in 5% increments. Surprised these were not mentioned. Right now Mitsubishi is the fat cat of ductless systems but they are way to expensive. I believe Tesla could make a better system by using the cold condensate run off to cool the first stage compression coils, most window units do this to try and bump their efficiency. I'm not sure why central units just dump theirs.

[@mockingbird187]

Would be cool if, along with their roofing solutions, they made a water tight mounting piece to install mini splits for houses without central hvac systems. That way everything could be on the roof, up out of the way, and the splits could distribute the heating and cooling from the center of the room instead of one side. This would be of particular benefit in larger rooms.

[@craigslist04]

Ricky, I love this video! The second I saw the Model Y had a heat pump I said HVAC for the home, this will be simple. This is a simple recipe for 100% off-grid living. Solar, Powerwall 3 (28kWh), Tesla air to air or ground source heat pump, with atmospheric water generator and filtration. The air to air heat pump in the Y is 300% efficient, that same heat pump could be 400-500% efficient using a ground source geothermal line. Elon Do It!

[@alanmay7929]

you dont need tesla to do a HVAC , the main problem is the house insulation and thats it, people always complain about HVAC forgetting that they have energy loses all around their house

[@silasdelo1313]

In Switzerland we are using even more efficient HVAC-Systems since 2005 than they are showing here. Im working in HVAC for 6 years, first i did an apprenticeship and now im studying HVAC-Engineering (part time) and im working as an HVAC-Engineer. The thing what US-Americans don't understand is, that cooling down or heating up only the air is very inefficient because of transmisson losses trough windows and walls. The most efficient way would be to install a reversable Heatpump/Refrigerationsystem to produce hot water for heating in winter, and producing chilled water in summer for cooling. This water you bring into the rooms by floor heating system. The floor heating system is used for the chilled and hot water. You can also use the water to cool/heat the air, which a central Ventilation-unit brings into the Rooms. So its a combination of heating and cooling a big area by floor (80%), and by air (20%). You use two tanks of water, one filled with technical water (heating/cooling) and one for using water (shower cooking etc). So in summer, the heat which you take out of your rooms, you put into your using water tank, so its almost "free" heated up. There are a lot more things you can do, but i cant tell everything here, this would take too much time :P Maybe i should start a business in the US, or should i text Elon and work for him? :P

[@nickpepper4592]

Crazy? Yeah, seems like a lot to tackle but like you said if someone can do it it's them.

[@bluefalconrocket8218]

I'm a HVAC contractor and I've done all the that you're talking about in many houses, 1st one in 1998, and currently working on one now. There is still room for improvement, but it's mostly on the efficiency side. Condensers(compressors) and Air Handlers (Blowers) are capable of 25-100% variable operation.

[@jamesbuchanan3439]

Wouldn't you expect that Tesla would have its own (really smart) thermostat to go with their whole-home HVAC, rather than a Nest? In a tweet, didn't Elon mention humidity control as well (which would raise the bar in the industry, and separate their product from the rest)?

[@joshagatanovic]

Each room can be controlled in the duct with actuated valves, no need to wire to vents. Love to see a thermostatically triggered pickup inside the roof cavity (where it’s hot during the day) to harvest a few free degrees in the winter and shoulder seasons.

[@sashwrin]

If he wants to live on mars he needs to look into making stuff like this and water filtration/pumps, lighting, white goods etc

[@Neojhun]

If he wants to live on Mars, he should of bought up SOEC SOFC companies like Ceramic Fuel Cells Australia. Especially when SpaceX Rockets are using Methane C1H4.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

it already exist and nasa have been using those systems for decades, like recycle the urines, air.......

[@metaljuan]

Multi zone Variable Volumen Air residential systems exist since years ago. Also HVAC market is one of the most competitive sectors out there. It makes good sense for Tesla but I think it's not for one just the integration with the powerwall and cars

"If they build it... 'I' will come'a runnin'!!!" Sign me up now! My talked my grandpapa into getting 2 powerwalls and he's going to be due for a HVAC overhaul soon anyway, so it's the perfect excuse! (Our system is approaching 21yrs) Tesla HVAC if it's connected to Nest and the Tesla app? I can't think of any other system that has such integration :D

[@AngelHernandez-qv5zt]

You described something that basically translates to a done system. Which you can control from a central thermostat. You can separate zones between floors also.

[@loungelizard836]

Unless they have something that's a true quantum leap in technology, it does make sense. MiniSplit systems already address all these concerns and are inexpensive.

[@paulbram2]

Yep, this whole video felt like an amature with no real understanding of what's already out there.

[@Muxy8088]

Radiant heat. Super efficient, and healthier then air blowing systems. Also supplies domestic hot water as well.

[@robertchambers5821]

Hello Rickey: Have you considered inviting Elon to have a meeting with you on your channel?

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

I’d love to if he’d have me!

[@TOMAS-lh4er]

@@TwoBitDaVinci THE GUy that has the "Everyday Astronaut " channel ( I don't remember the right name " on "Y.T. " has interviewed Ellon Several times because ELLON loves talking to people like you !! send him a video and ask !!

[@mauriciotorresmadrid5568]

Great idea, believe for season countries this will be a killer appliance and a great addition to Tesla’s portafolio.

[@keco185]

Better yet: a system that can suck air out of the cool room you were just in and blow it into a warmer room you are walking into. That way the energy used to cool the last room isn’t wasted.

[@mkzenthusiasts]

The law of thermodynamics is such that heat goes to cold and humidity goes to dry air you must air seal the envelope first keeping the entire house cool is more efficient than allowing a room to heat up to 90 and somehow instantly cool the room you move to. Wow!

[@keco185]

Sachi WI if a home could be 100% sealed then you wouldn’t need HVAC at all. Unfortunately that’s not the case and as such the more rooms you attempt to keep at a desired temperature simultaneously the more energy you will need. This is why it makes sense to only heat or cool the rooms that are being occupied. In doing so, some energy will transfer between walls but it’s still a net positive. Once someone leaves a room you could either A: let the energy spent conditioning that room slowly dissipate out of the house or B: attempt to reuse as much of that energy as possible in a new room where it is needed.

[@kendrickpi]

Like the idea of pure water as a byproduct - possibly a main feature for those seeking to make/later add such capability (even be able to increase capacity over time)!

[@LygarZeroX]

elon is planning on colonizing mars. making daily necessities isn't that far off from what is planned for the future. As Emperor of Mars, he will have to make a lot of stuff.

[@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler]

No smart vent needed... The trick is to have multiple 1/2 ton systems to hook up to at supply that way it can be controlled by the central AC unit. Then wireless thermostats in every room or wired if new construction. Not a big system but multiple small systems that can lock in as one or be individual. Plus make it off grid friendly so it doesn't pull all power to start all at once.

[@MrHarlandwilson]

That will be a great idea! I can see them doing this in the near future!

[@Just_me_73]

Everything Elon does is something that brings him closer to establishing a population on Mars. If he sees that it is going in that direction he is going to do it.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nonsense, NASA has alot of experience too moron

[@marklisek3109]

I definitely think they’ll make one too, hope it’s mentioned in their upcoming investor day!

[@tonyrome068]

Youre a veritable genius young timer. Great idea and extremely workable, especially since they have the tech resources and finances.

[@majdiradaideh7898]

I am totally sold on teslas ideas of sustainable source of energy production and consumption at home as well as storage. I think in a few years hopefully less than five years I’m planning to buy a Tesla cars one for me one for my wife, install solar roof from Tesla and have power storage in a power wall in my garage and if this HVAC system is going to be available that would be an extremely attractive option in my new house. I hope that these things would be available for the masses and in a reasonable price which I think this will definitely happen soon.

[@mxgx6646]

It’s good vents will automatically close for rooms that don’t require cooling, but a solution is still needed to purify those rooms air and control moisture to prevent mold growth.

[@bsnrao315]

Not all a weird or crazy idea. It is very worthy idea. PLEASE DO IT, ASAP

[@admiralking]

I have a friend who is getting ready to install solar panels here in Las Vegas. During a recent visit he showed me his new ultra efficient HVAC system which only draws 6 amps. That way he doesn't have to install as many panels. I think Tesla could absolutely build similar technology so their production and storage systems (Batteries) wouldn't have to be as vast at each house.

[@mariakristineexile5407]

Another important piece to the Mars Ecosystem.

[@ecospider5]

The super bottle is one thing you missed. It is a waste to cool your house and dump truck he heat to the air outside. You can put this heat into a hot water tank and you are getting free hot water. The transfer of energy is an expertise Tesla has that few other companies have researched. Motor creates heat, batteries creat heat, cabin needs cooling. But at another time battery needs heating and cabin needs heating. They are masters of moving thermal energy between those systems.

[@craigslist04]

A soft start compressor motor that runs at variable-speeds would make a very efficient heat pump HVAC system. A soft start heat pump is quieter and lasts longer, it reduces the in-rush current needed for the compressor motor to start and minimizing damage from mechanical shock and current surges. It also reduces the amperage needed to start the system.

[@stefangarr]

Hi Rick. You do a really great job with your channel. I enjoy it thorougly. Thanks

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

Thanks Stefan!

[@fredmensah5594]

I pretty much agree with everything in this video. 😊😊😊

[@quansun7633]

Great thoughts. Great show. Thank you.