Tesla Turbine

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TheTransportsystem

TheTransportsystem

14 жыл бұрын

Nikola Tesla designed a bladeless turbine in 1910. He Patented a design in the US on 6th of May 1913. in 1916 Tesla describes the Tesla Turbine as his best invention to date.

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@xBloodXGusherx
@xBloodXGusherx 3 жыл бұрын
i WOULD NOT be standing that close to something spinning that fast.
@Ultimusvivi
@Ultimusvivi 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically this is not as fast as it needs to be to reach optimal efficiency the faster the Tesla turbine spins the more efficient it becomes unfortunately Material Science is still not at a stage where it can achieve its 97% efficiency for that something that's three meters across would have to spin at 50000 RPMs the tip of the turbine would be going nearly mach 20 the disks would simply blow apart we would need to probably experiment with graphene discs pure graphene in its proper lattice can support the weight of an elephant on a surface area approximately the size of a tip of a pencil but making it is incredibly expensive
@xBloodXGusherx
@xBloodXGusherx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ultimusvivi Yup. This is why they are only used in large commercial or industrial fashion like water dams n such. I only made that statement as a safety caution from discipline of not putting ones self in harm while working around large machines.
@Arrogan28
@Arrogan28 3 жыл бұрын
@@xBloodXGusherx I think most real world use cases rely on the fact that you can use it in reverse as well... ie as a pump instead of a turbine...
@xBloodXGusherx
@xBloodXGusherx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Arrogan28 Ya dude I get all that. My focus was on the safety. Not it's practical uses. Thanks.
@Than3Dane
@Than3Dane 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Ultimusvivi kzbin.info/www/bejne/np6bnpJmp9-sg9E Cheers
@bg-zw1kk
@bg-zw1kk 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla and the boys testing out his new invention 1913 colorized
@xBloodXGusherx
@xBloodXGusherx 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA
@bg-zw1kk
@bg-zw1kk 3 жыл бұрын
Tnk
@aleinhunter9927
@aleinhunter9927 3 жыл бұрын
You can't make that shit up. LMAO 🤣
@AkhtarDanish
@AkhtarDanish 3 жыл бұрын
God 🤣
@bg-zw1kk
@bg-zw1kk 3 жыл бұрын
@@aleinhunter9927 why
@MrfixitRick
@MrfixitRick 14 жыл бұрын
A beautiful Tesla Turbine is born! Thanks for showing.
@AngryhammerGames
@AngryhammerGames 2 жыл бұрын
Dies you mean.
@akg1301
@akg1301 2 жыл бұрын
Are you there
@SusanG520
@SusanG520 10 жыл бұрын
High speed and low torque can easily be converted to low speed and high torque through the use of a TRANSMISSION. Look at a shipboard propulsion system. A steam turbine with low torque and high speed using a pinion gear of only 1 foot in diameter turns a Bull Gear with 20 foot diameter. The mechanical advantage is enough to drive a ship through the water. These guys are on the right track!
@mikeredmond2739
@mikeredmond2739 2 жыл бұрын
Sue, yes but first you have to have something moving at high speed to convert. The base problem is finding a material that can survive the stress at 35k rpm.
@narwhal9852
@narwhal9852 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeredmond2739 it ain't on earth at the moment lol
@tlove2108
@tlove2108 2 жыл бұрын
@@narwhal9852 I say it is on earth but don't know how to create it / harness it. Just like how all the granite was cut on the pyramids and other ancient sites. I think we are overlooking / overthinking things. Seems 99% of our innovation is slapping a computer on something that is a existing. In a way yes it doesn't exist but only because we haven't figured out how.
@rickfrogm825
@rickfrogm825 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeredmond2739 Materials exist for this, we just need to invest in the R&D in the public domain. It is underway.
@rickfrogm825
@rickfrogm825 2 жыл бұрын
In his patents, Tesla specifies utilizing his turbine configured in three ways, as a vacuum pump, turbine, and air compressor, configured together in such a way so the relationship between the three parts function as both the power source and effectively as the transmission, by regulating airflow to the drive member.
@shukfahid
@shukfahid 12 жыл бұрын
awsome to see ppl coming together to make this stuff real again.
@Sattracer
@Sattracer 2 жыл бұрын
I have wondered what would happen if the very outer edges of the discs had tiny magnets and the casing had coils for them to pass by as the turbine passed by at 3000 rpm. It would generate small electric charges and in the millions. Instead of taking the power from the shaft, take it at the outer edge using magnetism.
@schneidergustav2888
@schneidergustav2888 Жыл бұрын
O super idee cu turbina lui tesla eczact cum ai zis cu magneți și bobinaj din cupru făcut tip generator ar produce curent fără nici o problema, super tare frate💪🤜🤛👍
@somelight4all
@somelight4all Жыл бұрын
:) That's why they count magnetism in "Tesla" ;)
@maigreenrevolution2023
@maigreenrevolution2023 Жыл бұрын
even more . running it with air would cool coils and magnets 🙂
@teolynx3805
@teolynx3805 Жыл бұрын
We'll get a lot of problems with magnets itself (demagnetizing because they would reach Curie point) and vibration of discs caused by interaction between magnets fields and current field in coils. Most possibly turbine will "disassemble" itself from vibrations.
@Sattracer
@Sattracer Жыл бұрын
@@teolynx3805 If you offset an electromagnet of the opposite polarity to counter the bucking effect of the gap(s) it would prevent vibration and demagnetizing.
@barrettabney
@barrettabney 4 жыл бұрын
You need magnetic frictionless bearings. Standard style bearings will not work at 10k rpm for long. And you need to reach alot higher rpm for efficiency, right?
@atwaass
@atwaass 2 жыл бұрын
About 30000 tesla said to be 97% efficient
@jeffputman8242
@jeffputman8242 2 жыл бұрын
Was created for water use , so water will also move heat away from bearing surfaces. Using it for air would most likely end in failure.
@TwoFlower807
@TwoFlower807 2 жыл бұрын
The disc-speed is more of a Problem.
@mikeredmond2739
@mikeredmond2739 2 жыл бұрын
@@TwoFlower807 Exactly, a 4in disk will have velocity at the edge of about mach 7 at 35,000 RPM
@petermaceachern4843
@petermaceachern4843 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeredmond2739 yep and for a disk size to power anything of use it would need to be over 30k rpm and made of a material we do not have !
@ketakinikini
@ketakinikini 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla Turbine is 97% efficient at 35000 RPM. No known material can handle that speed.
@tedgordon5381
@tedgordon5381 3 жыл бұрын
That's just a theoretical calculation, because as you said, no known material can handle that speed. So, 97% efficiency maybe, but not yet
@paragwandale5037
@paragwandale5037 3 жыл бұрын
It is foolish to say 97% efficient. We should speak in terms of practical and achievable numbers. Even the car manufacturers can say their engines are theoretically 90% efficient, and they just doesn't have the material to manufacture and output that efficiency.
@jetengine7
@jetengine7 3 жыл бұрын
The 35,000 rpm figure is for Tesla's original 6-inch diameter turbine. The most efficient speed depends on the diameter of the turbine.
@reclamerectificate5913
@reclamerectificate5913 3 жыл бұрын
WOLFRAM? TUNGSTEN?
@greenshrek488
@greenshrek488 3 жыл бұрын
@@reclamerectificate5913 weak
@philstat100
@philstat100 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the great video. Sadly not much information except seeing the high rpm. Sad about the bearing. I would have loved to see more as You would have too. I hope that You did not lose a lot of money on this great experiment. Ignore all those demanding and negative remarks. Keep going Guys. You will achieve what You are trying for. I forgot to ask you, What was the water pressure on the intake? Again Thank You
@nexus1g
@nexus1g 12 жыл бұрын
Also in watching the video, I see clear things now that I had missed before in watching it. I thought there was water flowing in one side and out the other, but now I see that the pipe coming from the other side terminates. But in being wrong, I've learned things, and I have you to thank for that for sticking it out to show me my error.
@demondik
@demondik 7 жыл бұрын
Man, if that thing decided it was going to come apart, he'd be smoked! That arm would be history for sure!
@therugburnz
@therugburnz 3 жыл бұрын
He was lucky, only the device got smoked.
@nathanmeans1548
@nathanmeans1548 2 жыл бұрын
Automotive turbochargers routinely pull tens of thousands of RPMs under high heat on oil bearings while processing dirty-ish gasoline or diesel exhaust. This is not a significant engineering problem in this day and age, just a bit more complexity to the existing design. A Tesla turbine as oil pump would be more than up to the supply task.
@brandonobaza8610
@brandonobaza8610 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If the right people had been focused on making this work, it would have been done already.
@Cosmic-books
@Cosmic-books 2 жыл бұрын
Yes or operating an air conditioner. problem with Tesla (anything) has always been centralized power ideology concerned with industrial size application.
@mmedeiros2420
@mmedeiros2420 2 жыл бұрын
observação PERFEITA
@THEKITPLUG
@THEKITPLUG Жыл бұрын
I have wondered this exact same thing. I want to make a hydro-powered turbo for a boat application using the water from the jetpump. How do automotive turbos spin well over 200,000rpm without warping?
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl Жыл бұрын
@@THEKITPLUG They're low mass, and float on 2 Turbine shaft oil bearings: 2 film thicknesses surround a precision sleeve between the outer bearing and the shaft The oil films dampen minute vibrations.
@cristianzarate3053
@cristianzarate3053 2 жыл бұрын
Es una obra de la ingenieria. Pociblemente, faltan una decadas para que tal vez, se descubra un material que aguante semejante trabajo.
@siddharth5981
@siddharth5981 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you know that this beautiful masterpiece won't long last due to its acceleration and speed??? Its ring can be stretched out of that cylinder and can kill you
@marcangelodonelo5656
@marcangelodonelo5656 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's still no material that can withstand such speed
@jakeols2788
@jakeols2788 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcangelodonelo5656 car turbos bro...
@cankaraoke3049
@cankaraoke3049 11 жыл бұрын
You had done a great job. Thanks
@albertoanduze6885
@albertoanduze6885 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful turbine, thanks you!!
@nucflashevent
@nucflashevent 9 жыл бұрын
It's an excellent model, it just needs a more durable bearing setup. Alternatively, you could investigate using something like magnetic bearings (though that would probably require a complete redesign). As someone else suggested, you could take advantage of the fact that you're using vapor as a working fluid and try something like floating bearings, etc.
@claytonrealist8868
@claytonrealist8868 3 жыл бұрын
It needs something to torque it providing a bit of pressure to hold it in place.
@neloglass
@neloglass 3 жыл бұрын
I think you are right. There is no point to have the thing spinning like hell for nothing.
@vigneshkarthi3321
@vigneshkarthi3321 2 жыл бұрын
Adding of counter spinner
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
@@neloglass Tesla turbines get plenty of torque and output plenty of power even at low rpms IF they are designed correctly.
@PacoOtis
@PacoOtis 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for posting! A very interesting device and maybe will will advance our technology to where it can be used.
@panther105
@panther105 11 жыл бұрын
Ok, where's the video that shows the dis-assembly and damage? Now THAT would be cool......
@therugburnz
@therugburnz 3 жыл бұрын
please
@mzm4344
@mzm4344 2 жыл бұрын
@BIR_jass please
@wayne487msc
@wayne487msc 10 жыл бұрын
Darn, that loud whine and cloud of smoke scared the ^%$#@ out of the frog. He headed out of town.
@cocosloan3748
@cocosloan3748 3 жыл бұрын
There was a frog in the turbine and it burnt falling into the bearings? What a way to go :(
@007TruthSeeker
@007TruthSeeker 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. It was bereft of explanatory byplay or text, so we have to guess what you were doing, but at least someone knows how to weld aluminum, and there must be a machine shop involved. The gas/steam exit path seems rather small at the turbine housing, and that could be enlarged relatively easily. Bearings are straightforward issue, but the exact contours of the critical areas of the gas/steam path deserve careful study. Good luck with it.
@skipperlefl
@skipperlefl 13 жыл бұрын
beautiful turbine - congrats !
@johnsomerset1510
@johnsomerset1510 10 жыл бұрын
Useful bearing test!
@donghan6974
@donghan6974 9 жыл бұрын
This turbine was running at 8000 rpm even over. In our lab, we never run the reaction steam turbines over 4000 rpm.
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 5 жыл бұрын
I have two small bladeless model air-powered turbines here, one of which has been run safely at shaft speeds of over 25,000 rpm, using sleeve bearings and a simple bevel gearbox to produce a surprising amount of output torque for the size. But as small models, they're not very efficient. They were built in the early 1960's. An experimental prototype bladeless turbine, using an air bearing, was built by the same person, and which ran faster than 200,000 rpm. (The competition judge's tachometer could not read above 200,000 rpm.) The rotor was conical, and less than 5 cm (2” in old money) in diameter, and it sat in a conical cup. But it did no useful work, since it was designed purely to spin as fast as possible without falling apart. No exotic alloys were used. What I'm saying is that rotational speed capabilities are different for different turbines, depending upon the intended use. Jet engine turbines can run faster than 100,000 rpm, for example, while yours were designed to run at much slower speeds. The guys in this video certainly ran their turbine faster than the bearings could withstand, and were risking physical injury there. If the rotor had exploded, it could have shattered the housing and scattered its remains at high velocity. I've seen it happen.
@oscarverwey
@oscarverwey Жыл бұрын
@@RWBHere wise words man really nice to see somebody how knows his stuff, you can actually run the Tesla turbine at any speed whit Any diameter whit high efficiency if you just get the spacing right for the type of vluid, viscosity to get the right cohisive effect en reduce the slip factor to almost zero, you see this slip factor is the efficiency itself as you get rit of it Tue efficiency rises
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
This is because your turbines are designed to operate direct on shaft to a 2 pole generator and spin at 3600rpm to get 60hz directly out of the generator.
@apexmike849
@apexmike849 10 жыл бұрын
Geo K - "At least a rotor disk didn't fracture from the intense centrifugal force" That's what I was thinking was going to happen. That's a pretty large diameter for that RPM...
@TheBlabla1996
@TheBlabla1996 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really don't want to get near that thing..
@reelMn
@reelMn 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping he'd still have his hand intact after it passed 7000 rpm. Very fortunate the bearing failure wasn't a catastrophic one.
@nexus1g
@nexus1g 12 жыл бұрын
Laminar flow over the disc is a key importance to the work of the turbine. The more turbulent the flow past the discs, the lower the efficiency of the turbine. Determine the Reynold's number by 3/4 * density * velocity divided by coefficient of velocity. You want a Reynold's number less than 2000 to be considered a Laminar flow.
@SpencerjonesBoxing
@SpencerjonesBoxing Жыл бұрын
That looks cool
@panther105
@panther105 10 жыл бұрын
Oooops. Did you guys cook the bearings....? This kind of pump needs a bearing cooling system for sure. Good effort though.
@AndrewRandston1
@AndrewRandston1 4 жыл бұрын
Think you could make a water pump like this?
@coryjeffreys5146
@coryjeffreys5146 3 жыл бұрын
They did didn’t they I thought the same thing probably used regular bearings need to use heck I’m not even sure
@nickotis2497
@nickotis2497 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like they were running off steam
@yousurf374
@yousurf374 3 жыл бұрын
cooked the seals on the bearings............ I guess they did not follow the old school TESLA directions with old school packing.. PLUS, RPM runaway.... too high. PS: WHERE IS THE TORQUE in it.. no work, no go for usefulness.................
@bunnygirl8482
@bunnygirl8482 3 жыл бұрын
That's the huge engineering problem of Tesla Turbine. Hope future technology gonna get better
@scottsmith4315
@scottsmith4315 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking as I watched them spinning it up, I hope they spent as much on the shaft bearings as they did for the entire rest of the project, or it's not going to spin very long. Hmmmm.
@MrMopar426h
@MrMopar426h 2 жыл бұрын
You sir, ARE A FREAKIN SAVAGE!. Sit next to that thing like a boss. 🤣🤣🤣
@candyflippy
@candyflippy 11 жыл бұрын
nailed it!
@nexus1g
@nexus1g 12 жыл бұрын
Lenz's law is the only pertinent resistance you'd have to worry about once you put the load on it. Rolling resistance would be negligible in its effect. While it may be folly of me to assume as much, I was suspecting they were using city water which has a pretty consistent pressure. And I would love to show you the formulas used to determine the theoretical efficiency of a Tesla turbine, KZbin isn't math-friendly, but I'll cover them as best as I can in a linear fashion with my next post
@EzZIOnTV
@EzZIOnTV 12 жыл бұрын
It was over 9000 :D
@redoxideeternal23
@redoxideeternal23 3 жыл бұрын
9000rpm and they didn't perfect it,imagine Tesla personal design,20,000 before callapse
@avpr1c
@avpr1c 2 жыл бұрын
2:04 the frog hopping at the end is cute
@calvinnyala9580
@calvinnyala9580 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla pump is good for high viscous fluid, for example maple syrup. You either have to spin up very quickly with air, or spin slowly with maple syrup. It depends on the type of fluid
@SusanG520
@SusanG520 10 жыл бұрын
With these high speeds, you need a journal bearing with a closed loop cooled lubrication system.
@russellking9762
@russellking9762 4 жыл бұрын
before you need all that...you need someone to treat it properly...if you didnt need it to make electricity..give to someone who could put to some use..such as...hook it up to a sort of vacuum system and put a womans head over it ...beautiful and life like...such as Catherine Zeta Jones and youve got a blow machine...instant best seller...id buy one...the demand would outstrip supply..!
@jakeols2788
@jakeols2788 2 жыл бұрын
wrong
@catweasle5737
@catweasle5737 9 жыл бұрын
I'm far from intelligent, but I knew that was going to blow. :-)
@davedowler
@davedowler 9 жыл бұрын
Your name says it all. ;)
@catweasle5737
@catweasle5737 9 жыл бұрын
Nothing works!
@scorefuxxon2753
@scorefuxxon2753 9 жыл бұрын
KattieKirksey1875 Sorry, no sale. I always turn off an advertizing video if I have to wait more than a minute into it to find out what they're actually selling. Also, it was no reason for you to post your ad twice. I'm afraid I'm going to have to report one of those posts as spam. Have a nice day
@TURK_182
@TURK_182 9 жыл бұрын
KattieKirksey1875 no help there something wrong with the site I push play and all it would say over and over is, dear friend dear, friend dear friend...
@dougydoolittle5255
@dougydoolittle5255 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what most blokes know about you, sure thing that you are going to blow
@Netriska
@Netriska 3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. brave little bearing :-D
@aravkushvaha5896
@aravkushvaha5896 2 жыл бұрын
This technology is 100 years ahead from the time.
@hotlips36
@hotlips36 9 жыл бұрын
ya I was just waiting for it to blow
@Moonteeth62
@Moonteeth62 7 жыл бұрын
So, it spins fast, unloaded. That's usually the extent of these turbine videos. I would rather see on actually hooked to something and doing actual work. I can spin a PC fan with an air compressor *really* fast, but that accomplishes nothing. Want to impress me, hook it to a generator or something.
@dzemohendrix
@dzemohendrix 7 жыл бұрын
Go do your homework on these devices, man.
@Moonteeth62
@Moonteeth62 7 жыл бұрын
dzemohendrix Homework is done. Show me a real world use of one of these and I'll stand corrected.
@dzemohendrix
@dzemohendrix 7 жыл бұрын
+Moonteeth62 If you'd done your "homework" you would have known the uses for it. But I'll endulge you for the sake of it. These devices are and can be used both ways. As a strong air compressor when a motor is applied to it or as a high RPM motor, powered by high pressure steam for example. Unloaded in the videos, yes. It can be used for rapid water removal from a pool for an example. Or even more practical, on a bigger boat, for water removal should there be a big leak. You shouldn't say it wouldn't work loaded. No turbine, not adjusted to the appropriate generator will not work loaded. With big enough dimensions, I'm sure as hell she could produce power.
@Moonteeth62
@Moonteeth62 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nothing. I know what *you* think they are good for. Give me a link to a company actually using them, or a link showing an actual REAL WORLD USE.
@dzemohendrix
@dzemohendrix 7 жыл бұрын
+Moonteeth62 Good God, you're really this lazy and saucy? Fine.
@epevaldon5421
@epevaldon5421 2 жыл бұрын
the sound sounds like its gonna blow!
@gojo9047
@gojo9047 2 жыл бұрын
Summoned after 12 years by a great work
@yveslegault6825
@yveslegault6825 8 жыл бұрын
Using adhesion and cohesion simultanously is a genius accomplishment! Why is it the Tesla turbine concept is not used by every body?
@ubenwarf6019
@ubenwarf6019 7 жыл бұрын
It's because when tesla tried to get the tesla turbine on the market it was overun by the sales from piston engines
@alanbrown397
@alanbrown397 7 жыл бұрын
That and they're easy to stall. You do need to know what you're doing with them, but they're quite effective devices.
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
@@JP-hr3xq I appreciate your comment but that’s not an issue because, despite what everyone erroneously claims, Tesla turbines work just fine, get plenty of torque and output power at low RPMs. I’ve got some copy pasta 🍝 of mine that I’ll share with ya here to explain more. Tesla turbines aren’t made efficient by spinning really fast. That’s only for when the disc stack is being used as a centrifugal pump, because ALL centrifugal pumps’ compressors, performance is tip speed dependent. But spinning the turbine fast will produce a centrifugal head that opposes the incoming fluid flow, reducing the pressure gradient across the nozzle, reducing fluid final velocity, reducing mass flow rates through the nozzle and ultimately reducing power out. Furthermore the faster you spin them the faster the fluid you have has to go just to still be moving faster than the discs and still provide torque. Lastly, they work just fine for industrial use and can scale up just fine because the torque on the discs is proportional to the difference in the fluid speed and the disc speed. So the disc tip speed is the important factor here. For any given fluid supply in the nozzle will have a max fluid velocity. So the turbine disc tips will have a max speed set at that fluid speed irrelevant if radius. Now considering that centripetal force is proportional to V^2/R, if you keep the tip speed the same but increase the radius the centripetal forces on the disc for the speeds needed will actually decrease. Despite what MANY have claimed about the Tesla turbine, it does NOT need to be spun fast to work or work efficiently. TesTurs are made efficient when the slip on the discs is reduced and spinning the discs fast does nothing to reduce the slip, only increase the distance the fluid slips on the disc faces, which is by definition “loss”. Listen to what Tesla himself said in the patents of how to make them work. “Owing to a number of causes affecting the performance, it is difficult to frame a precise rule which would be generally applicable, but it may be stated that within certain limits, and other conditions being the same, the torque is directly proportionate to the square of the velocity of the fluid relatively to the runner and to the effective area of the disks and, inversely, to the distance separating them. The machine will, generally, perform its maximum work when the effective speed of the runner is one-half of that of the fluid; but to attain the highest economy, the relative speed or slip, for any given performance, should be as small as possible. This condition may be to any desired degree approximated by increasing the active area of and reducing the space between the disks.” 1) increase the speed of the fluid relative to the disc, (not increase disc speed) 2) increase surface area 3) decrease disc spacing This is how you actually make a TesTur work. Not by spinning it fast. The fluid interactions with the disc that govern efficiency an torque are adhesion and cohesion. Full stop. And spinning fast does nothing to increasing either to increase the turbines isentropic efficiency. This is why everyone who chases rpm with the TesTur just flat out fails. They aren’t even trying to design them properly so of course they won’t work.
@zysis
@zysis 11 жыл бұрын
I think some of you forget that tesla also invented the torque converter, which designed to be attached to this device. If you know both of these, then you'd know that RPM CAN be converted into torque and vise versa. The fluidic drive was also another device which would also use a fluidic valve; both devices seem lost in time.
@fadzilicious4411
@fadzilicious4411 2 жыл бұрын
The thing with knowLedge is that if nobody remembers it, it doesn’t exist anymore.
@randledewees4405
@randledewees4405 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Road Runner getting up to speed on a long desert highway
@Bhaidostyaar
@Bhaidostyaar 3 жыл бұрын
Road runner is v8, this sounds pretty electric lmao
@sirtom68
@sirtom68 12 жыл бұрын
As skylos stated, you should have it under at least a simulated load. You would never build an engine for a drag car and test it just to see how high you could get it to rev. Very nice work none the less !
@Sattracer
@Sattracer 2 жыл бұрын
I have often wondered what would happen if, instead of making the entire disc of metal, what would happen if part of the disk were made of high tinsel strength cloth or a polymer that had great shape memory, in the highest speed regions. The centrifugal force would force the material to remain extended and if the material had a decent stretch factor with room in the casing to allow for stretch, theoretically, that would enable fantastically higher speeds. As for the bearing failure, that might be overcome with the use of a magnetized shaft and permanent magnets of like polarity as a bushing. A semi-solid disk of graphene weave might offer a better resolve.
@Sirjohnwilliamuk
@Sirjohnwilliamuk 2 жыл бұрын
You hired go to HR see you on monday
@aswingsharif6729
@aswingsharif6729 Жыл бұрын
I wish you to get R&D crowdfunding to materialize your concept. GOOD LUCK!
@markusstark8564
@markusstark8564 7 жыл бұрын
those people obviously not aware, how dangerous that can be when it rips aparte!
@Jack-vo7yf
@Jack-vo7yf 7 жыл бұрын
Good news is the many disks in a Tessa turbine are usually very light, as it'd be impractical to make them heavy. So the what looks to be stainless steel frame probably could take the full force of the turbine shredding apart.
@markusstark8564
@markusstark8564 7 жыл бұрын
This frame probably will not help much, but my english is not sufficient to explain.
@aliar3771
@aliar3771 6 жыл бұрын
when a paper can cut your skin, imagine a fast disk spinning 6k rpm, it will cut the steel like its nothing.
@lkocevar
@lkocevar 6 жыл бұрын
And aparte has it ripte! Free energe! Illuminte confirmde!
@jack419288
@jack419288 6 жыл бұрын
Ali A no
@Unflushablepiss
@Unflushablepiss 2 жыл бұрын
excellent work mad lads!
@KeithFox
@KeithFox 10 жыл бұрын
Should be titled how to break a tesla turbine by overloading the rpm
@mikeblack5301
@mikeblack5301 8 жыл бұрын
Lost a bearing huh???
@willfriar8054
@willfriar8054 5 жыл бұрын
mr toad says no wild ride for me today i'm out of here!
@jizburg
@jizburg 11 жыл бұрын
nice. will be interesting to see if they put out a result video someday.
@daveponder2754
@daveponder2754 3 жыл бұрын
When developed there were no materials that would withstand 18,000 rpm, but it was at these speeds where best efficiency was gained. However, by WWII materials were available. GE aircraft turbos spun at 18,000 rpm at first, then as development progressed would do 23,000 rpm. The high rpm increased the pump efficiency to 97%, and tesla pumps are used in specific apps still today.
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
Where did you get this information from? Because at the Edison steam plant tests that Tesla did with his turbine Tesla did the 100hp run on his 9-3/4in diameter turbine at 18,000rpm… so where exactly did you hear he couldn’t spin his turning that fast back then?
@350pauli
@350pauli 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome turbine but I would have been more interested to see a load applied to test the tork of such a turbine spinning it over 8k rpm was bound to do that probably needs the right bearings
@allenhardin7037
@allenhardin7037 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe an electronic magnetic bearing
@350pauli
@350pauli 2 жыл бұрын
@@allenhardin7037 I think the issue is the same as Tesla had.. the disks at that speed buckle
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
@@350pauli this was not a issue that Tesla had.
@350pauli
@350pauli Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieSolis if you read on why they don’t use it it’s because of this issue
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
@@350pauli I have already built working TesTurs that output plenty of torque and plenty of power even at low RPMs. They just have to be designed correctly. There’s all the proof anyone could need to know this now. 10in diameter TesTur made from cheapo aluminum on room temperature compressed air Dyno’d at 6.22ft-Ibs of torque to the shaft at only 4150rpm and +4250watts between 6,000-12,000 rpm and real 250-2650watt electrical load test runs at 9,000-13,000rpm. The preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air driving the Tesla turbine. The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test. This is so a baseline can be acquired for what to expect as the temps are increased to combustion levels. When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp. So not only is there an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity.
@EspressoBreve
@EspressoBreve 9 жыл бұрын
RPM means nothing without Torque
@hangfire5005
@hangfire5005 9 жыл бұрын
SOKO MAN This is why you don't see tesla turbines with real loads on them, and forget load change
@Lobilokotube
@Lobilokotube 9 жыл бұрын
Jarrod P Remember my boy, Tesla was influenced by ETs and space do not need strength, but speed is what we need, this is what we have with this turbine !!
@hangfire5005
@hangfire5005 9 жыл бұрын
Show us a tesla turbine with a real load or shut up about it
@Lobilokotube
@Lobilokotube 9 жыл бұрын
Jarrod P Boy first improve his words, second, I'm not here to stay teaching concepts that are written in Tesla books, if you want to know read ...
@hangfire5005
@hangfire5005 9 жыл бұрын
Can you try that in English so we'll all know what you're saying?
@airtechmedia
@airtechmedia 11 жыл бұрын
This needs magnetic bearings with position sensors. Couple that with a hydrodynamic cavitation steam system and surely you have totally free power.
@ufoengines
@ufoengines 13 жыл бұрын
Super Cool!
@Murdoch493
@Murdoch493 11 жыл бұрын
What I was trying to say is that you can use the RPM to achieve more torque using a transmission of some kind. It's like a transformer transforming Very high voltage with little amps to something that has medium voltage with medium amps. A gearbox does something similar. It takes the RPM and Torque and manipulates it into something usuable. Sorry if I wasn't clear the first time :D
@szbalogh
@szbalogh 10 жыл бұрын
You ar lucky it didnt blow at 10kHz! Should be used at optimum rpm based on the rpm/torque/propellant uptake curve.
@hansjudek8358
@hansjudek8358 5 жыл бұрын
Comment at the end was clear "Ouch, ouch" lol
@IAUrbanPermaculture
@IAUrbanPermaculture 11 жыл бұрын
I was under the distinct impression that the Tesla turbine was supposed to run on water, not air. It would be self-lubricating. Water pressure is easy to create/harness/obtain. Air pressure takes a lot of energy to create/harness/obtain.
@jorgefajardo2213
@jorgefajardo2213 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly it's based on water viscosity not air ...I don't know about this video.
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
@@jorgefajardo2213 the Tesla patent explicit talks about using steam and air. Not to mention almost all the improvement patents that Tesla patented for his turbine were for combustion gas and steam turbines. Tesla Turbine Patent List by Nikola Tesla US Patent 1,061,206 & GB patent 24,001: the original Tesla disc turbine patent from 1911. Then almost all Tesla’s improved turbine patents, except the Tesla valve patent, were patented in 1921, the valve was done in 1919. Patent GB 186,082: improved disc stack design for more torque Patent GB 186,093: combustion + steam turbine with built in exhaust heat recovery boiler. GB 186,084: combustion + steam turbine superheater and concentric/coaxial multifluid nozzle that the steam draws a vacuum on the exhaust of the combustion mixing them as they enter the turbine. GB 175,544: hybrid Tesla Disc + Parson’s reaction turbine for utilizing the Reheat Factor of the energy lost to shearing in the fluid between the discs GB 186,799: process and apparatus for balancing rotating machinery for quality at-speed dynamic balancing. US 1,655,114: aerial apparatus patent with improved turbine nozzle design US 1,329,559: Tesla valve for pulsed combustion Tesla turbine. GB 179,043: High Vacua Pump Specifically a tesla turbine utilizes the expansion of an elastic gas as it spirals through to the center exhaust holes. If one were to make a disc turbine that did not do this, for example just have the air blow through and out the discs it would be called a Thrupp Turbine. As Thrupp first invented the use of viscous adhesion of a fluid, gas or liquid, to a disc but he did not put exhaust holes at the center of the discs and his did not utilize the expansion of the fluid through a spiral path through the turbine disc stack.
@s8nmail2
@s8nmail2 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah the frog hop at the end was a treat. Could hear it falling out
@obese1konobe
@obese1konobe 10 жыл бұрын
OK it spins really fast with no load. Lets se it drive a generator and create some AMPS!!
@stephencrum530
@stephencrum530 4 жыл бұрын
Why dont youbuild one with your money and add a shit load of gears to it? I'm sure these third world souls could use you money if your to lazy to do it yourself
@jlec9081
@jlec9081 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephencrum530 Why don't you build it?
@yousurf374
@yousurf374 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephencrum530 yeah... I do not think they built it.... all for show. and clicks... notice the tally.. someone made $$$$.
@flugschulerfluglehrer7139
@flugschulerfluglehrer7139 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla Turbines are only efficient in high RPM.
@ShakaZoulou77
@ShakaZoulou77 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6CymqmkotGFi6s
@frank6th
@frank6th 10 жыл бұрын
Seems to have blown a shaft seal, indicating to much back pressure in the exhaust. Nice machine though!
@SkylosSobaka
@SkylosSobaka 12 жыл бұрын
Regarding calculating the power, you said "If you're really curious, you could determine the approximate output of power from the RPM." As in, with the information in this video (it shows the rpm on the gauge) you could calculate the power. You need more information than JUST rpm to calculate power.
@joeprice3164
@joeprice3164 5 жыл бұрын
Now that's what I wish I had
@hckie
@hckie 11 жыл бұрын
Yes you we're clear. Imagine a wheel with good bearings. You apply little force and it starts spinning and will eventually reach great rpm. Now add a load to the wheel (like a generator) and the little force that got it spinning is no longer enough to keep up the speed.
@hughjass1835
@hughjass1835 3 жыл бұрын
Then you add a flywheel and give it more steam and you're right back to making power
@VidarrKerr
@VidarrKerr 3 жыл бұрын
@@hughjass1835 We haven't invented a material strong enough yet.
@anatoliy8212
@anatoliy8212 3 жыл бұрын
The blades in side starting band up on high speed this is always been a problem for that tip of turbine.
@pendekarlolipop6577
@pendekarlolipop6577 3 жыл бұрын
No blade inside, the rotation is came from friction of the fluid with the surface of the disk inside the spiral case..
@anatoliy8212
@anatoliy8212 3 жыл бұрын
@@pendekarlolipop6577 I know, but disks are band up during rotations over 5K speed this is classic for this tip of routers.
@anatoliy8212
@anatoliy8212 3 жыл бұрын
@Michael B Yeah, sorry about my bad english.
@olekluften9776
@olekluften9776 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid.
@charlesleland5946
@charlesleland5946 10 жыл бұрын
the rpm gage dose put a lil bti or resistance on it so it dose have soem torque to it
@captainpeabody
@captainpeabody 11 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have yet to see a demo of one of these actually doing "work". They just spin them up and that's it. Big deal. If it can't do "work" it's just a toy, and if it can they need to demonstrate that.
@CharlieSolis
@CharlieSolis Жыл бұрын
🙋‍♂️ the TesTur of ours has been proven more than capable of output real work. 250-2650watt real electrical load tests all on just room temp compressed air. The preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air driving the Tesla turbine. The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test. This is so I can get a baseline for what to expect as I increase the temps to combustion levels. When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp. So not only do we see an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity.
@hackenbush23
@hackenbush23 8 жыл бұрын
Scared the frog at the 2' mark.
@IndyTheGreat
@IndyTheGreat 12 жыл бұрын
This thing sounds like a Sentry 40v2t siren when it is spun up to full speed!
@Williampinion25
@Williampinion25 8 жыл бұрын
Now that was cookin!!!
@S1lverarrow
@S1lverarrow 9 жыл бұрын
At the time of Tesla traditional turbine was low efficient and hard to produce, also a lack of material good enough to make reliable and efficient blade turbine, so his design intended to solve cost of production problem, the 95% was only theoreticaly possible, not practicaly prooved with technology of that time, scientificaly its prooved that it may reach 95% and over, but very few attention was given to Tesla turbine in last 100 years. The reason is new tecnological breakthrough in metallurgy solved the original problems, making the tesla invention less interesting, as it would take a lot of time and money to develope his turbine and more money to replace all machines with his new turbine, taking the industrial capacity of mankind in early 20th century, that was hard to achive. The interest to Tesla turbine came back in 1950, when they actually theoretically prooved the potential of Tesla turbine efficiency, however it requires new technology to create a truly working one. So far one one was able to truly create a Tesla turbine that work better than current turbine design. The design of Tesla turbine only look simple, in order to make it work, it must have as many disk as possible, but the distance between disks must be the same as the disk thickness, we cannot just extend the width of turbine adding more layers, coz we would need to extend the width of steam flew on those layers too. So far no one was able to create a tubine with enough disk layers with appropriate accuracy to achive higher efficiency than traditional turbine. So Tesla turbine can work in theory, we just haven't reached the point where we could create one.
@Fomalhaut_Antares
@Fomalhaut_Antares 6 жыл бұрын
Battlecry Eden Never heard this particular perspective on this. Once, I heard Nikola Tesla had developed the turbine especially for applications with high frequency generators he had been experimenting with, where these high rotation rates would've been a good? Not sure.
@miro2424
@miro2424 8 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for an useful Tesla turbine application video. All the videos I see are people spinning the Tesla turbine like crazy without doing anything useful with it. Of course it will spin fast if there is no load! It's like I would be watching somebody pedalling on a bicycle suspended in the air.
@sleepingeye
@sleepingeye 8 жыл бұрын
+miro2424 I'm working on it, i want to build a Tesla gas turbine+generator prototype (driven by gasoline) in the 1 kW range. Hard problem to solve will be temperature, but may be solved by using bypass air from compressor stage, which could reduce heat on the plates while giving away a bit of efficiency. Another problem would be to make it as silent as possible. And then another big big problem would be clogging of the space between the discs. I think all these problems could be solved eventually. I'm still in drawing/calculation phase, proabably will start assembling the first prototype latest in about half a year from now.
@jarontrujillo8282
@jarontrujillo8282 7 жыл бұрын
can you ues it as a turbo in a car
@alanbrown397
@alanbrown397 7 жыл бұрын
the hots gases impinging on the discs are likely to erode them. It also has a relatively high inertia value which is ok for single speed/steady load engines (generators) but lousy for cars.
@sleepingeye
@sleepingeye 7 жыл бұрын
Alan Brown Yeah i know turbines are not for cars, because of the fast change of power/angular speed needed.
@blacksun32
@blacksun32 7 жыл бұрын
So uhhhh.... do you happen to have any videos of people pedaling bicycles suspended in air, because I need to watch that.
@bmsfx
@bmsfx 3 жыл бұрын
Would it be spinning that fast if you put on a few generators?, how much torque does it have?
@carlosdavila9486
@carlosdavila9486 2 жыл бұрын
That was insane
@marweensantos7218
@marweensantos7218 8 жыл бұрын
well if you have so much rpm, you can convert it torque by having a correct gear train ryt?
@stevealexander8010
@stevealexander8010 5 жыл бұрын
You can trade-off rpm & torque, but the ower is the same.
@gkess7106
@gkess7106 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Alexander power
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 жыл бұрын
as soon as a load is introduced the rpm is gone....
@whitepaper7450
@whitepaper7450 3 жыл бұрын
So, I am here after 10 years.
@A-vir.
@A-vir. 3 жыл бұрын
I am after 11 year
@singularity844
@singularity844 3 жыл бұрын
How do you guys know how many years you’re returning after? I always see these comments and wonder if it’s just a joke or somehow you can know
@whitepaper7450
@whitepaper7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@singularity844 You just simply click on description button and there you will find the upload date of that respective video, that's how you can calculate after how many years you are there. Or you can find the age of that respective video just down the video title.
@singularity844
@singularity844 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitepaper7450 yeah but assumes you watched it when it was released right?
@whitepaper7450
@whitepaper7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@singularity844 May be I watched it 2 months ago as my comment is 2 months old.🌻
@justinouellette1366
@justinouellette1366 11 жыл бұрын
Chances are if you pass the flash point you might control the process and your shaft may ride in an evenly pressurized nearly frictionless rotation (assuming dynamic balance and radial load). Insert clutch here.
@Regulareverydaynormalguy1
@Regulareverydaynormalguy1 2 жыл бұрын
I would not want to be that close to an homebuilt turbine spinning that fast. Lol
@ValeRocks
@ValeRocks 10 жыл бұрын
body saw the frog on minute 2:01? hahahhaa
@1medicatedomo
@1medicatedomo 9 жыл бұрын
Trisha Xuk Just some frog spittle would be all that happened.
@4kGr0wn
@4kGr0wn 10 жыл бұрын
coat the inside with NeverWet.. get that shaft on magnetic suspension.. and reinforce the housing.. ;)
@frollard
@frollard 11 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They say in the vid 'immense' rpm. What I'm getting at is there might still be very little horsepower (wattage) because rpm does not equal power.
@TabooRevolution13
@TabooRevolution13 Жыл бұрын
Well it has power from the velocity. If you rotate a weighted flywheel then it has power.
@paxtonpickett3456
@paxtonpickett3456 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody has some serious welding skills
@punkinhaidmartin
@punkinhaidmartin 9 жыл бұрын
Id be more impressed with it it were powering a saw mill or a lathe or a pump. It spins like mad but lets see it do some work. Ive never seen a tesla turbine powered lawnmower, rice husker, irrigation pump or any other practical application of rhe concept. Show me some totwue, lets see some horsepower. C'mon man!
@punkinhaidmartin
@punkinhaidmartin 9 жыл бұрын
That's true Kenneth Silvers. You get versatility that way but lose some efficiency every time you convert from one sort of energy to another. But if I had to pick one thing tp power with it, it would certainly be a generator.
@clintdunbar6722
@clintdunbar6722 9 жыл бұрын
mark warlick You can move anything with the right gear ratio.
@punkinhaidmartin
@punkinhaidmartin 9 жыл бұрын
Clint Dunbar I don't see them moving anything. Would love to , ... but not seeing it.
@1968kenpoman
@1968kenpoman 8 жыл бұрын
+mark warlick YA if you could run this with water from a ram pump and gear it to a generator ,every homesteader would have water and power off grid ...
@punkinhaidmartin
@punkinhaidmartin 8 жыл бұрын
1968kenpoman only when they have access to water running down a pretty steep grade.
@RaptorJesus.
@RaptorJesus. 12 жыл бұрын
i got here from...dam i can't remember how i got here!
@flatearthnews7904
@flatearthnews7904 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine thousands of these used to power a big ship, like the titanic. I think it sunk a year before this was made and the discs wouldn't be strong enough and would tear apart
@weslingm
@weslingm 11 жыл бұрын
vettseter1 Thank you for your comment. This is the best comment on this device. But I would add,, Carefully balance the rotor to run over 30K rpm then the use of ceramic bearings.
@aVerdadeTV
@aVerdadeTV 8 жыл бұрын
how many power??
@Tjita1
@Tjita1 8 жыл бұрын
+A Verdade TV Several.
@catalizzatore
@catalizzatore 6 жыл бұрын
A Verdade TV much*
@Kube_Dog
@Kube_Dog 6 жыл бұрын
Many power. All the best power. This I can tell you.
@emptyrellik21
@emptyrellik21 10 жыл бұрын
what is the application for this turbine?
@user-yd1vl9lj5j
@user-yd1vl9lj5j 3 жыл бұрын
Fart fan for a Wal-Mart bathroom.
@Murdoch493
@Murdoch493 11 жыл бұрын
Well, I do know tesla generated quite a bit of power using his tesla turbine on the Niagra Falls. One of the first hydroelectric dams, supposedly. I think it was turned into a museum, unfortunately. It's called Adam's Power Station (or Power House No. 3)
@SusanG520
@SusanG520 10 жыл бұрын
This is very cool.
@michaelhowell8489
@michaelhowell8489 4 жыл бұрын
Burned that bearing!😆😂🤣
@bunnygirl8482
@bunnygirl8482 3 жыл бұрын
Discs. They expended
@DragonsREpic
@DragonsREpic 11 жыл бұрын
(do something about it) "Life is full of screwups. You're supposed to fail sometimes. It's a required part of the human existence." - Sarah Dessen “I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.” - Thomas A. Edison
@Longrun78
@Longrun78 5 жыл бұрын
You could generate crazy amounts of electricity with this just put a balanced fly wheel on it with magnets like a stator and copper coil
@seventhunders9741
@seventhunders9741 5 жыл бұрын
Elementary my dear Watson
@Longrun78
@Longrun78 5 жыл бұрын
@@seventhunders9741 tesla was way ahead of his time that kind of rpm is incredible
@seventhunders9741
@seventhunders9741 5 жыл бұрын
@@Longrun78 da uh dude u uptie bra
@Longrun78
@Longrun78 5 жыл бұрын
@@seventhunders9741 what is uptie mean ?
@MrStanley85
@MrStanley85 2 жыл бұрын
Nice turbine and nice frog at 2:00 :)
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