Test 2021 KTM 890 Adventure R - The KTM big Twins

Test 2021 KTM890 is the first episode in a three part series called The KTM big Twins.
The series will test the two latest big twin adventure bikes to come from KTM the 2021 KTM 890 Adventure R and the 2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure.
In the final episode we'll compare both bikes and discuss what they have to offer the motorcycle adventure community.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

For those new to MAD TV I'd encourage you to look around the channel, we have international adventures, bike reviews and Chris Birch extreme videos and other stuff and most recently some great films from Nick Sanders. Occasionally we go live for some fun. Here are some links to help you find the good stuff. International Adventure kzbin.info/aero/PLkM9-Vs7Ynzi55gvgbVg2Xcy_rp0vqA_R Thorough bike reviews kzbin.info/aero/PLkM9-Vs7YnzjtGNKHELsYYQRwCQPOEp5j Chris Birch extreme KTM1190 videos kzbin.info/aero/PLkM9-Vs7YnzithyN05N74-yoitRsGNwI5

[@kevinwestman6015]

Without a doubt this is the best review I’ve watched of any ADV bike. Thank you for producing a quality review. I’m sold on the 890 adventure! Good day from the Pacific North West of the USA.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad it was helpful!

[@manuelbritorides]

Oh, i get so excited every time i see your videos! I feel "transported" for your scenery and live all the adventures in those bikes! Thanks you só much🙏🙏!!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoy it! There's lots to do this year. Lots of adventure and lots of tests.

[@VicRider713]

Dave nails it! always! thanks for the review. I remember when you did the 790R. I bought it after watching your review.. that was awesome and this is even better! detailed and you actually ride the damn thing.. It was nice to hear all those improvements in the 890 over the 790- that mentioned. I absolutely love my 790 R here in the US. Just completed a week's ride from the west cost to southwest. It chewed up the miles easy on the tarmac and was easy on the dirt roads. I got to adjust the rebound on my rear, as it bounces back at me going up-hill on corrugation. Thanks again! I miss the roads back home.. :( watching your videos takes me home.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks mate. I appreciate the feedback. The 790 Adventure R is a great bike.

[@sebastianpoggio794]

This is by far the best review I’ve seen on the 890 adventure r. Great work!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@daimk2467]

First class review. I've watched it several times and finally ordered one from my local dealer. Well Done'!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

It's a great bike

[@ajwallace00]

Great review, thanks for taking the time to put it together. Cheers

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for watching!

[@enduro1955]

Great review thanks David, Clubby and Chris. What a great bike!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it. Yes it is an exceptional bike.

[@MotoPassport]

My prediction for the 890, I'll want one after watching however... Heart: 890 Brain: T7 Budget: DR650 Reality: CT110

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Reality is OK. My best adventure was in the HImalayas on a Bajaj 220 Pulsar. Don't get too hung up on 'THE BIKE'....says me, who has the privilege of riding them all :). Seriously, I could have fun on a moped!

[@IroncladIndustrial]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV AGREE!

[@MotoPassport]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yes you have the privilege or riding them all thou anyone who watches or has watched your channel values what you say so its our privilege to hear your thoughts. My steed is 8 years old and has been great & hopefully will chug along for a while longer. The magic of MAD TV is we get to come along for the ride (bloody incredible rides at that) and daydream we are on the latest and greatest as well. Thanks.

[@PhilG221]

I’m in a similar predicament. Would love the 790/890 adventure but just keep hearing about reliability issues. Quite a few videos on KZbin, including from well known content creators like Bret Tkacs.

[@oihus]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Mopeds are underrated!

[@roosthrower]

Thanks Dave, always enjoy watching.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@NitroMike87]

This is the credible review that convinced me to get a 2023 Adventure R. Picking it up next week. Thank you, keep doing what youre doing, it has impact

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

My test of the 23 is out tonight. It is a significant improvement on the 23 model.

[@NitroMike87]

​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Awesome, ill have a watch right away. Thank you, good timing 🎉

[@ryanb34n]

Easily my new favourite channel on youtube!! Now I'm really really tossing up between the 390 and this.. I want to do some really long European (Trying to get out in the sticks as much as I can) trips focusing on offroad and tent/hammock camping. I've a feeling the extra power of the 890 will make for an overall more enjoyable experience (Especially as I'll have many Autobahn miles in order to get to any offroad destinations - Starting point Switzerland :P ) Love your content mate, keep up the awesome stuff and the great Aussie attitude!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@JohannesDalen]

Since this channel is new to you I really suggest you go back and watch more of his videos! Some of them are just pure gold, the Cape York one is pure gold - Enjoy!

[@rodotzen4933]

Great reviews, good to hear about the rear shock, something l will have to look into and source an upgrade for. You've reinforced my opinion of no crash bars and just a really good bash plate. I rode a Norden today with Arrow decat exhaust, OMG what a stump puller. Keep the reviews rolling.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I've got a great short I will publish soon of a guy on an 890 sliding down the road with very little damage. A real credit to the design.

[@robpinter5431]

The slow mo footage over the rock steps is a prime example of great suspension keeping the tyres on the ground.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yeah it really shows how good the suspension is on the bike. It truly is exceptional straight out of the box.

[@johnfretz1938]

Even though I'm not one to ride off road, I really dig your channel. Love the views, and thoughts on those bikes. Cheers.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Welcome aboard!

[@cracotator]

Always a pleasure to watch your videos ! I noticed that the 790 u've tested was with an akrapovic exhaust. This 890 is with the OEM one. After 20.000km on my 790 i've just switched from a SC project to the OEM and it's incredible how the engine is different : low torque, not playing anymore with the gearbox...looks like it handles like the 890 you're testing. Just saying ;)

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for the info!

[@greatfallskam]

Great frist episode on the new KTM 890 ADV. Looking forward to next two. Thanks . Kam ( USA )

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

More to come! Just finished filming the 1290 today.

[@Theravadinbuto]

Great review. I’m still good with the less linear, slightly manic character of my 790, though - just sends a burst of joy when it kicks in 😁

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Fair enough!

[@lucmerryduke5022]

Great video; epic length (confession: might have skipped a little bit in the middle). Keep the quality content coming!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks, will do! that's the beauty of youtube, fast forward the bits you don't want.

[@jasestorace9501]

Awesome review & ride, love it. I think I'm convinced...... time to order mine.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Go for it!

[@GanGoz]

Great stuff, you always deliver Dave.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks for this cracking and fully covering review guys! Happy trails out there 💪🤠

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Our pleasure!

[@martijnmw]

Great review! Now thinking two things: #1 upgrade to the 890 (from the 790) #2: I once have to go to Australia to ride there, what a beauty over there! Greetings from The Netherlands

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You are always welcome

[@peterchown1552]

Well Dave great & very accurate review, damn you cost me some more money. Picked up a demo 890 r last month & sofar am extremely impressed overall with the bike. Coming off a 1290 & previously a 990 I think this is the best overall, lighter than both & despite what the specs say feels more powerful than my old 990.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad I could help.

[@michaellilley6725]

What an excellent extensive and comprehensive review 👍 I was stuck for choice between the 790 and 890, this review has firmly sold me on the 890. You really tested this bike to your limits, which as you pointed out, were much improved when trying to reach the limits of the bike itself. Many reviewers say the buffeting from the screen on open roads is unbearable, can you confirm or allay this? As I live in Scotland I'll have miles of on road to get to the off road, a lot of it with my wife as pillion. Subbed 👍

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you liked it.

[@philgoogle1535]

An excellent review of the 890R. I don't know how it could be better👍

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

We do try hard to get them right. Some viewers complain we are too soft. Other's say we are too hard.

[@rfk76]

Dave and the Gang - thank you for another fantastic video! I was seriously considering 890 Adv R and T7, but all of those bikes are too heavy for my level of offroad experience. I found myself having 10x fun on CRF250 compared to F850GS. Finally I've sold both CRF and GS, got myself a 2021 701 Enduro and... I love it! it has a weight of CRF, more power than T7, 10k km service intervals. I am more than happy with the simplicity or riding modes and that Offroad mode stays on even after turning off the ignition. Quick shifter is working great, clutch is soft, engine is having a lot of power, breaks absolutely awesome. It even has gear indicator... Two things I do not enjoy is the sound of the engine on low rpms (I always wonder if it ain't broken ;) ) and how hot the exhaust gets. Other than that - 701 Enduro is a perfect tool for me! Cheers, lads!

[@JohannesDalen]

Oh I just have to get one too..😅

[@rfk76]

@@JohannesDalen Johannes, thank you for the comment - I am happy to see we are watching the same videos on KZbin :) Yes, please give 701 a try. I really wonder what your thoughts on that bike would be. Starting 2021 so called 'Abs dongle' is a stock feature, so switching between road and off-road modes on the go takes 3 seconds and it stays as chosen. You can even take the key out and it won't return to nanny mode from off-road abs and tc. Cool stuff. (You can fully disable tc and abs, but those will come back to off-road mode with abs on front only and limited tc).

[@JohannesDalen]

@@rfk76 Yes I recognized your name! I have ridden the 701 (de-tuned version to half hp output) for 5 minutes about a year ago. That was the first time I've ever ridden a thumper, and I recall I really felt it was shaky and full of vibrations. At that time I rode the T7, so I kind of compared it to that. Now you might know that I ride a DRZ, and a test ride of the 701 would most likely be a whole 'nother experience as I've developed as a dual sport rider and thumper-enthusiast. I still love my DRZ, but I'm always watching the market to see what my next bike might be. The DRZ is closing in on 20 years old and I know its known for its reliability, but you never know with old things. I would also very much like ABS on my bike as I've had a few close calls with MX tires and no ABS on the DRZ. I also have a strong feeling that the extra power of the 701 engine will make it a much better "tourer". Thanks for sharing your thoughts, please keep me posted on how the bike does and I will let you know when I've test ridden it once more :) Have a great day my friend!

[@rfk76]

@@JohannesDalen :) I am watching your every new video and I really enjoy it, especially the honesty of it. KTM/Husqvarna has made some additional changes to the 690/701 engine recently to reduce the vibrations, but yes, it is still a thumper (and it makes a lot of strange noises on low rpm!), but during a ride it is smooth as a butter (as for thumper! ;) ) Cheers, mate!

[@JohannesDalen]

@@rfk76 Thank you my friend I appreciate that! I refuse to believe that it’s more noisy than my DRZ 😅 Cheers!

[@callmekitt]

Fantastic footage! Thank you, Sir!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Cabritostube]

Great review as usual. You really covered a lot. I've been thinking about a 790/890 to replace my 1090, but the weight difference isn't that much between them.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The 1090 is a great bike.

[@wfodavid]

The ergonomics of the 790/890 make it hands down better than the 1090 off-road.

[@Rourke-Slimer]

Fantastic review. I've personally owned the '15 1190R, the '19 790R, the '20 690 Enduro R, and the '21 890R. I'd echo pretty much all of your thoughts. The 890R is a fantastic bike for your day trips and long rides alike. I love the power and comfort of the big 1190, but the weight and suspension are too much of as liability off-road. I love the off road prowess of the 690, but I have a lot of highway between me and the trails and it's just exhausting on the 690. The 890 is the goldilocks bike for me. It's got all the right compromise in all the right places for a big adventure bike.

[@jonasbaine3538]

the 490r may finally get me off my 1190!

[@Rourke-Slimer]

@@jonasbaine3538 490R? You mean the 890?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

good points. I agree.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes, very interested to see what that look like.

[@kribaska]

@@Rourke-Slimer we are waiting for the 490r, maybe 2023

[@tshlbzhx1982]

I like this episode. exactly what I am expecting

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you

[@JohannesDalen]

Got to test ride one during my TET trip this year. People talk about the suspension, centre of gravity etc, but the engine! Wow what a rocket compared to my T7. When second gear powerband hit I was in trouble 😅

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

A lot more power than the T7. But then again, I like the delivery of power on my T7.

[@QuasiMotoUSA]

Great review, i love my 890. Compared to my old XR650R, its a computer on wheels. Ditch the cat and the bike’s character changes noticeably, it comes alive.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

It's a great bike. I'm liking the look of the 2022 model.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Would be nice to get the larger display like the 1290 perhaps. Best video I've seen in a long time! Thanks!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you liked it!

[@olmate6935]

Great review! I'd love to see a shoot out between the Ktm twin, t7 and 701.....

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I'm not intrested in a shoot out. The bikes are so different, for different uses. For me it's like comparing a canary with a parrot.

[@reecebiddiscombe3117]

Hi Dave - an alternative to rebound damping adjustment on a PDS bike is to tweak the HS compression. Suspension turners and the Racetech Suspension Bible have told me if the backend kicks up it’s too much compression; out to a side, it’s too little (bottoming). I take 1/4 - 1/2 turn HS compression off and it’s super balanced - and you can keep the rebound a bit faster to provide better traction over fast and big bumps. The end result is better comfort too - the rear can move through it’s travel a little easier. I find the rebound stays the same through dramatically different preload (passenger/not) and compression settings.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you

[@p2e]

love the owner interview at the end 👍

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yeah I did too.

[@joesphbest3120]

Good to see you again.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Welcome back

[@noidreculse8906]

Glad they started for you

[@buenobro]

I just can’t wrap my head around riders talking about extra weight on big bikes when it has cruise control. But I do love the comment about “ride more”. This makes a lot of sense.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes I;ll think I'll get a Tshirt made up with that quote.

[@rasthurlo6812]

This is the best 890 Adventure R review out there

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@micvan259]

Great big adventure bike review, this would be my pick for sure. Currently have the 1090 adv R. Loading up with luggage is very common on most trips and makes mine just a little too heavy in softer tracks. I would of like to see you try the 890R in softer conditions as sand is very common in WA off-road.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yeah, I agree, I should have chased some deeper sand down to test the new Rally slip control settings.

[@loadblock4995]

Former 1190 owner now with a 790…… it rocks! Rode to Alaska on the 1190 and it was great. Rode the 790 on the continental divide (off pavement) and I haven’t looked at any other bike since!

[@robertduane364]

The most comprehensive review on the 890 by far, it's really helpful for those of us trying to decide on so many great bikes. I'm keen to know if you have replaced or kept your T7 as I am tossing between these bikes. I know they are on opposite sides of the field in terms of riding style but any advice would be great

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad it was helpful! I stilll have my T7 and love it. The 890 is completely on another level in terms of suspension.

[@rasthurlo6812]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV does the high CoG of the T7 bother you? Do you find the 210/200mm suspension travel limiting? Not being a hater, love the T7 but these are my concerns vs the KTM. The 890 R is great on both these two fronts

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@rasthurlo6812 Not for what I ride. It is a great handling bike. Once the suspension is replced the actual length of travel is fine.

[@christianxzowner2958]

awesome review,,, also like you full suit and helmet !!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@emoservedwithfries]

I hope you figured out the favorite function which makes your up and down arrows into quick keys when not in the menu. Makes 8-10 button presses Down to 4

[@strokenumber3]

As ever, great video .

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you

[@jorgelabrada6149]

Great review mate! I just put a deposit on one at my local dealer.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@Mrbooboo1972]

Your mud there is like clay... We don't have that where we live. It's just basically dirt here, we do have areas of when it's raining or wet we have like a dark brown blackish clay.. which is really slick, slippery. Which I know you guys know what that's all about. Great video. Thank You.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@Mrbooboo1972]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV You are so very welcome Sir.

[@DevinOrr]

Amazing review. I have a 22 890 & love it. One thing I am trying to figure out now is tire selection. I want a knobby tire like in the video. What tire is that?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Pirelli Rally Scorpion

[@andreaslaux8861]

Thanks for youre impression and gratings from Germany

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@ajburgs8791]

Top review.... Very informative... I'm currently sat with a 2016 KTM690 and a 2015 BMW R1200GSA in the garage, thinking of chopping in both for a 890R 🤔🤔 Out of interest, did you switch to a MITAS on the rear for day 3? Safe riding mate 👍🏻

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

No Mitas. All Pirelli. Thank you.

[@joesphbest3120]

When is the next adventure, looking forward to it, you ride the neatest places.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Soon I hope.

[@staffannunstedt548]

Thank you for a great review. I hardly can´t wait for the next episod with the new 1290 SAR, it will be interesting if you come to similar conclusions like I have done. 2019/20 I had the 790 R and I was overwhelmed how much better it was than my previous 1190 R. For 2021 I swapped after read about the changes they have done with the 1290 SAR, to this day I´ve ridden the big one 12 000 km on the gravel and I am stunned...When do you think the next review is on the net..?/Staffan/Sweden

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Coming soon! a week or two.

[@humoto1]

Hi Dave, this is for sure the best video on the 890 Adv R so far - well done!!! Mine will be delivered by the end of April in about 3 -4 weeks from today. Testriding it I did not really like the screen it comes with (I am 6'4") so I am wondering which screen is mounted on Glen Forman's bike... Please find out and let me know!!! Many thnks and best regards, Hubertus

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I think you'll have to reach out to Glen. I don't have his contact details.

[@humoto1]

Alright, will try to find him on YT or Insta… Thanks!

[@t.k.1448]

Good review and appreciate every KZbin video that doesn't use cheesy click-bait tactics like extreme titles (Dont' buy the 890 Adventure R or the universe will explode!) One quibble: Was the standard KTM tool kit not on board during the first trip through the whoops? Riding in places like that, I would think a basic set of tools (among other things like first aid kit and water) is standard equipment before leaving the house. Just sayin'.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

T. K. you are quibbling. :). I'm trying desperately not to answer this but you are doing my head in. Water in the vest. First aid kit in the vest. Emergency locator on the vest. Tools in the double ended dry bag that took tripod. Oh dear, I can't believe I just did that. :(

[@CyberducPA]

That is a Test for Travelenduros, most of the tests are onroad with a litte gravelroad a Panigale can do. I like your test very much

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

We test the bikes thoroughly at MAD TV.

[@lawdayl]

Have you had the opportunity to test the tiger 900 rp? For long 60/40 trips here in Oz, mostly firetrail and light 4wd with plenty highway riding which would you choose?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Hopefully we get our hands on the Tiger 900 very shortly.

[@brucekendall52]

Always look forward to your reviews and they never disappoint,thks a mill.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks Bruce.

[@billness2635]

I just don’t want nanny aids on my bikes! Listening to your descriptions of the numerous settings further strengthen my desire to avoid updating my bikes. My newest bike is my 2016 690 that I completely removed the ABS from.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

They can be distracting, but there is no question they are life saving.

[@dustydelmar]

Excellent review, thanks

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for watching!

[@saturatedfat6542]

What these bikes need are 2 settings (off-road and tarmac) you can personalize to what you want ... then you can just switch between these 2 settings easily

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I agree. I was only saying that to Clubby.

[@TommyNitro]

Yep, sometimes simpler is better. To a point.

[@Crust2013]

Need to retire

[@borderm3]

Its wild how much better you guys are at high speed riding and jumping than me, but seem to struggle at low speed technical stuff that I tend to do ok. Maybe because I grew up in rocky, clay, mountain terrain or….Maybe I need to grow a set!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I prefer slow to fast and do better slow.

[@borderm3]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Compared to me you guys are FLYING through the stuff you are jumping. Eitherway, cheers!!

[@TrippyandDa]

I’d like to see how you ride with “30 centimetre” bar risers🤣 Great content as always 👏🏼👏🏼

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes a slip of the tongue I left in. There are two other slips that I let through.

[@TrippyandDa]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I only got that one because I fitted 30mm bar risers last week 🤣 Love that 890 but I’m not sure I have the ability to get up those rock ledges with such finess. You made it look easy which I’m sure it’s not to a novice like me. I’m finding my 390 heavy enough on muddy lanes but on gravel it’s great with E09’s

[@flyingfox7252]

I was on the ADV ride to Condo - sure was damp. The 890 is the bees knees I can appreciate your every observation of the changing conditions Dave. Your ride impressions are spot on over the 790 as the extra fly wheel weight and rotating mass has made the 890s low end so much more tractable.. My 690 is at the end of its time in my garage (33,000 Klms and one top end rebuild). Your review has settled it for me, the 890 Adventure R with all the fruit is my next ADV bike investment.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I don't think you'll be unhappy :).

[@Ahduciekwndnbbbsvvvghhhyyyyy]

How would you compare the 890 suspension to the rally raid suspension for the t7?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The 890 is better. But in terms of the T7, the Rally Raid is an amazing improvement.

[@kamilpiskorski2766]

Great review. Quick question, what tires are on your 890? They dont look like pirelli rally that I know..

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Pirelli Rally Scorpion

[@debroyprasenjit]

Lovely review as always. Much appreciate your riding style and long-ride review format. Would you be doing an in-depth ride and review of the 2021 Africa Twin 1100 DCT anytime soon? I am planning to upgrade from my 2021 Himalayan 411 to either a Tiger 900 Rally Pro or Africa Twin 1100 DCT next year. My use case is 80% touring + 20% off-roading (read: broken tarmac). Would love to hear your perspective. Cheers mate! PS: I own a 2015 DUKE 390 as well and added the Himalayan as my 1st ADV before I upgrade to a bigger and heavier ADV tourer. 22112021

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

No the AT test is not imminent, although it may occur later next year. Sorry I can't be definite.

[@Mrbooboo1972]

Thats definitely the Right way to adjust rebound and compression on shocks...forks.. always go to zero then out to the number you want like they did here. Also.. 99% of Any bikes you get new... Your preload will be set at factory settings and most... I do say Most sales associates that sell motorbikes Don't know much if anything about these settings, like they could set up a bike in mins for each Rider regardless of size. In fact they would Sell many more bikes to. Because when you took it out for a test ride you'd be like "It feels perfect like this bike was made for me" rather than ... Well it's nice but it feels to stiff or saggy or the handel bars are out to far or to close...etc... Just minutes and any bike basically can be set up for anyone.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I strongly agree.

[@thomasrosenwirth7035]

Did you weigh a stock 790R and a 890R to confirm the weight diff? My 790R and 890 Rally have the same weight, not 4kg more. So did Rotteilers weighing turn out, wonder if you had a diferent experience & numbers?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

No. But the KTM literature puts it 4 kg heavier.

[@barmyarmy935]

As a previous owner of KTM's 1190 Adv R back when they released them i found it difficult to take it on serious off road conditions (i came from a 530exc) so didn't keep it very long, but wondered about a smaller version and have been undecided on these 890's until now, looks like everything i want to do on a bike now im going grey. Great review, can't wait for the second and third reviews too..! Cheers

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yeah just finishing up the 1290 review. If I'm lucky should have it out for this Sunday night. My view is the 1290, although substantially improved over the 1190, is not what you need. Have a good look at the 890, or 690.

[@mateuszchruscicki]

Hi did you fit 140/80 Pirelli tyre on rear with tube? Any issues with handling? You did not metioned anything but Worth asking:)

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Brilliant handling, no issues.

[@motoyoko5315]

Thinking of trading in my t7 for one of these next week. For the price I paid for it, investing in suspension wasn’t a really good option. Not really excited about all the electronics though but I guess the extra power deserves it. Overall think it’ll be better for my style of riding and if not, I can always go back to the t7

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Completely different bikes

[@motoyoko5315]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV hope so, would hate to go through all the process just to get the same bike. I hope it is different for the better though 🤞

[@jasonduckworth1525]

So looking at this bike or the yam T7 which is better IYHO as covid means test rides are tricky

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The 890 is superior in terms of suspension and engine power and accessories and most importantly the latest iteration of Motorcycle Traction Control, that has already saved many riders. There is a huge price difference between the 890 and T7 although that gap is widening. The T7 is lovely to ride, has great handling and a beautiful engine and is less expensive. If you aren't a fast rider and don't intend to jump it off small erosion mounds then the original suspension will do OK, provided you don't take weight at the back or are a heavy rider. If you are on the heavy side...0ver 84 kilos you need a firmer spring on the rear. Always ensure static sag is within limits prescribed. I own a T700 and a Husky 701.

[@dirtskyfilms.7646]

Hi Dave, i have recently purchased at 890 adventure r. Just wondering if you could tell me the tyres you where using in this test. They look a bit different to the Pirelli scorpion rally’s I’ve seen. Thanks. Love the channel👍

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Nope Pirelli Scorpion Rallys. The front is a real strength.

[@dirtskyfilms.7646]

Sorry for the dreaded tyre question. Just wondering if the scorpion rally tyre fitted in this test was still tubeless? Im not concerned about fitting a tube & rimlock on the front, however i would love to keep it tubeless. Thanks.

[@loadblock4995]

Former owner of a 1190r now rocking the 790r with no looking back! The 790 crushed the entire continental divide off pavement and then slabed home.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

An outstanding bike

[@alexgrigoreas4825]

Top notch review as usual Dave. So glad to see you boys back on the trails. Besides a few upgrades as you mentioned, do you feel that the 890 would benefit from a fuel tuner like most overly lean production bikes?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Don't know. I don't have that expertise.

[@Expedition901]

How would you compare highway speed vibrations on the 890 vs 690/701?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

890 smoother

[@4x4Guadalajara]

What tyres are you Running at the 890? Im looking for more grip on mine

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Pirelli Rally Scorpion. They are great tyres. But please remember I'm sponsored by Pirelli.

[@Thou_Real_Ryan]

Great Video !! Do you know what the top speed of the KTM 890 is ?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

No idea, bloody too fast :)

[@jean-lucjourdan7227]

What’s the brand of the after market windscreen of the fella you interviewed at the end of the Video please ?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Mate this was a long time ago. No idea.

[@jean-lucjourdan7227]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV no worries mate 😉

[@garnacha71]

When you review the new 901.. please make a 2 hours feature video.. I'll gladly enjoy your videos..

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Look forward to getting on the 901

[@mdbacolod]

Would you mind sharing the location of the area @ around the 7:50 mark? just got into adventure riding and that looks like a great place to learn. Im assuming its in NSW? Thanks 👍🏼

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Sorry Michael, that's my suspension testing track. It will get wrecked if I tell that location.

[@racerboy3801]

Looks like it's around Wiseman's ferry/maroota. They exited onto great northern rd

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@racerboy3801 The tests cover 100s of kilometres. My test track is no where near there.

[@defylifeadventure]

The 890 is a fantastic bike. It requires zero skill or technique in many instances and just get you to where you want to go be it the top of a rocky hill climb, down a wet boggy track, or tearing it up on corrugated rippio. It also produces more HP and torque than the old 990 adventure and more torque lower down and throughout the rev range. It's downsides for me are seat comfort (which I haven't yet fixed despite the rally seat) and wind protection which is a huge issue on cold weather long distance riding.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yeah cold weather riding that'a a good point. I like the standard seat. I found it comfortable.

[@damytzeus]

what exhaust is he running at 29:35?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

No idea, but the next video out looks at the ride we went on and that may be shown as we look at each bike participating in a quick review.

[@wfodavid]

I go down 1 tooth on the countershaft sprocket if I'm doing more off-road/single track. Game changer.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I was happy with the gearing. 1 tooth on the countershaft is a truck load of gear reduction. Equivalent to 4 teeth up on the rear.

[@wfodavid]

In some gnarly single track its a dream/

[@exploringwithtonkanats]

Hi which back pack are you using in the video looks great

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

KLiM

[@exploringwithtonkanats]

Thanks 🙏

[@ashmindis]

Excellent , that you would buy KTM 890 Adventure R or Husqvarna Norden 901?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I like the Norden better. Just needs a better rear shock for me.

[@adamhrachowina9119]

No wonder Chris had to increase the rear rebound. He applied full preload to the rear spring and adjusted back from there, that is not correct. The preload adjustment is done from fully out (counter clockwise) and the turns are counted IN to achieve the desired preload.

[@gokhanelma]

Looks very good motorcycle I want one of that

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Outstanding motorcycle.

[@Nerb1]

at 7:30, that is against the ADR rules which say "The antilock brake system function shall be automatically activated after each start-up of the vehicle". How does KTM get away with it?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Controversy right there Nerb1, front ABS and MTC are automatically activated

[@Nerb1]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Ahh, so leaving the rear abs off only is ok... or a loop hole! Interesting.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@Nerb1 MTC on this bike is at another level compared to 790. A key feature of the bike

[@MacawAviculture]

Both of these bikes are amazing, but for serious off-road trails both are way too heavy, especially if you ride solo like I prefer. My choice for a bike that can do anything off-road is the KTM 500 EXC-F: street legal, and with ECU, air box, and exhaust mods can perform to the skill level of the rider. The weight of the 500 makes learning technical trails much easier, and helps build confidence off-road much quicker. The only option I can see is to have the big and heavy adventure bikes for the 'adventure rides with mild to moderate off-road trails' and a dedicated lightweight enduro machine like the 500 for the serious off-road adventures.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes many have the 500EXC. Service limits and small oil capacity are a turn off for me, particularly when you the 701 has 10 k service intervals.

[@PapaDougsAdventures01]

I have a Yamaha Tenere 700 on order but the KTM 890 Adventure R keeps whispering to me. Like a beautiful girl that you know would be fantastic but would require such a large amount of maintenance. Is it worth it over the T7? I have an R1250GS Adventure for the longer road centric rides. So the mission for the new bike is the Back Country Discovery Routes in the USA or similar.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

For BDR, you'll have to get the T7 front suspension sorted, which isn't too much.

[@defylifeadventure]

Isn't there less maintenance and longer intervals on the 890 vs T700? No linkage to maintain, and 15,000km oil changes and valves at 30,000km

[@LandRoverDS2020]

At 4:30 that seat looks high , what's the seat height anyways ?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

33.5 inches I think

[@VibeDoc]

Hi. Very nice video. But, for the rear shock preload (at ~14’30”), isn’t the opposite way? Counterclockwise all the way, and then clockwise the number of turns that you need?

[@orlandoberry4031]

In the book it said all the way clockwise - then out the desired clicks.

[@VibeDoc]

@@orlandoberry4031 nope. Just checked the book: 12.10 (page 193) “Turn adjusting screw counterclockwise all the way. Turn it clockwise by the number of turns corresponding…”

[@orlandoberry4031]

@@VibeDoc @10:25 there is a picture of the book. It reads “Turn adjusting screw ‘1’ clockwise up to the last percepti- ble click. Turn counterclockwise by the number of clicks correspond- ing to the shock absorber type.”

[@VibeDoc]

@@orlandoberry4031 you are talking about rebound, I am talking about the preload. At 14:30, where I have my question, he’s working at the preload

[@orlandoberry4031]

@@VibeDoc - my bad. Yes I thought you had a question about rebound, however, you did indeed ask about preload. Sorry about that.

[@TommyNitro]

Looks like a great performer. Overall, do you think it is worth the price compared to the T7?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The value is there in the componetry. The key question people have to ask themselves is how much do they want to invest in their sport. Then of course there's brand loyalty.

[@TommyNitro]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'm not a brand loyalist for sure. In my thinking, any of these bikes are more capable than I. I think I may still lean towards something like the T7 due to reliability concerns. But even then the reliability gap (Yamahas "never" break and KTMs break "all the time" stereotypes) may be overblown.

[@chrisberdot9949]

very good, thank you

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Our pleasure!

[@somedude1590]

I thought cruise control was only on the rally edition?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Nope

[@michal_z]

I 'liked' it before watching🙃

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's a good start.

[@saurav.bishtt]

My favourite bike hope ktm launch this in India 😘

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I hope so too

[@KristianK9755]

Hi from Transylvania,Romania 😊

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Hi Kristian