TEST: internal 3D mapping of objects for best RTH route on Phantom 4 Pro signal loss

[@PositiveImagesPhoto]

I found you through the Ken Heron cross interview. Watching you is like going flying with a drone buddy because my drone buddy and I have the same questions, possible solutions and resolutions that you have. I love the posing of a problem and real time solution. Positive or negative it does not matter.

[@MarkEnsbeyMPR]

Can't wait for your next Vid. I don't usually like watching long vids, but yours are so entertaining and engaging. 👍

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Thank you. That's what I try to do. I watch them over and over again and edit it until the flow is right and there are no dull moments in it.

[@williamcrossmedia]

Wederom een fantastische video! Ik zie iedere keer uit naar een nieuwe aflevering!!!

[@CDigata]

it only works when the phantom is already at or higher than your set rth height and it see`s obsticals. eg flying higher than rth height and around a building, it will then fly back to home using the same route as it took to get there. its just an extra protection for when already at your rth height if that makes sense

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes, that one I get. But besides that DJI says there is internal mapping of objects and taking the best route back.

[@benjegekofzooo]

NeverMindYourOwn ja maar de best roette is omhoog voor die drone .. jij denk als.een mensen het prg werk goed hoor de snel weg om naar jou te komen is omhoog .en niet eerst kijken of het goed is om via de rechtkant te nee 3d maping het prg werk

[@publiedos]

well... that´s happend when Dji Company is focusing in increasing and make sooooo much difficult (due all the choices and combination of choices you can do) mostly because choosing ones and disabling another ones makes NEW combintations that I suppose they dóon´t even know yet (and you are trying and creating on every new video) which is great, very educative and GREAT mister.... thanks for that Peter as usual you´re AWESOME and your brother too of course..... Applauses..:!!!!

[@tonypriest8455]

Thanks for your video Peter, entertaining as usual! please do continue !

[@AboveandBeyondGlobalDrones]

DJI says new Go & Go 4 Apps coming this week. Will they finally work without disconnect on Android. If not, DJI needs to start supplying a monitor that can be relied upon to fly their product.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Great, I hope so too.

[@AboveandBeyondGlobalDrones]

Went flying yesterday and got constant disconnects. It is beyond annoying now!

[@geigy]

I still have not figured out what you are trying to do with this 3D thing, but man, I enjoy watching you TRY!!

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Lol...!!!

[@krzpob]

What if we set high for RTH above the tree or another object?

[@carltontattoo]

I don't think you have to let the drone"see" objects like you were doing, I believe the drone will simply retrace the path you flew until it reconnects. Unless I am misunderstanding something. Great videos by the way!

[@Johncoffee2002]

I think this is a good idea. Sure a safe path. But maybe also a path where it doesn't choose the shortest way back. ... Why did it crash? Is this a Android thing?

[@dankuchta5170]

In your testing, you always leave an open space above the drone in case it needs to rise up to return to home. With all the sensors on the 4 pro, is there nothing that will stop it from crashing into a tree above it during a return to home?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes indeed. No sensors at the top and when rising during RTH it will hit something above it.

[@dudeinottawa4186]

Hey Man!... love watching you test all the features and the videos you put together... thanks. Have you tried changing the RTH height that it will return? Maybe if you changed it to 10 meters it would go to that height then around everything in its way?

[@andrewandron7087]

Nice video. I hope we see a test where this 3D mapping works. Thanks for trying all these things.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

When I have the right opportunity and location I will try something like that again.

[@TheMikadu06]

I thought that DJI corrected the vison of the probs on cam with the P4 ??

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Probs?

[@TheMikadu06]

propellers !!

[@FUNActivitiesAzoresAdventure]

Uaauuu. I love this place. Lombadas, São Miguel ;-) Very nice vídeo Peter.

[@cellophanemoka9907]

where doyou go filming so cool place ?

[@punapirate]

Love your videos... re this feature of the Phantom 4P to test... how about along a river bed with a tree canopy above you... you would have to set the rth ht at 10ft or so or maybe rth ht has to be 0 so the bird doesn't read any ht and has to rely on her mapping.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

The thing is I can't set the RTH altitude below 20 meters. But somebody else suggested to maybe TURN OFF the SRTH option, so it won't ascend first...

[@richglaser4566]

It's a added safety precaution, built in protection feature.

[@anthonyferguson8757]

Does anyone know if the Pro + has the same connection problems as the tablets.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

It's and Android tablet and I guess it sill suffer from similar problems. But I never tested it.

[@CNKHobbies]

Nice adventure as usual!! 👍

[@stevekaboobiroo1479]

Great scenery and good test Peter. Have you thought about creating a logo like Ken to start and finish off the video?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes absolutely. But personally I always skip through those aqap, because I think it is waste of my time watching that over and over again. So I don't bother my audience with it either :-). But who knows what I will do in the future?

[@stevekaboobiroo1479]

NeverMindYourOwn . I agree, some intros take far too long and drive me crazy but Ken has one that takes just a couple of seconds and is a nice touch.

[@BrainzIOW]

What about turning OFF the Smart Return Home and trying it? That might stop it going up, so might start going AROUND objects... if you are lucky :)

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

That might be a good idea indeed! Good one!

[@Podtschaske]

What really would be smart, if you could place your own "no fly" obstacles right on the map inside the DJI go App. Save these and upload them to the drone before flight. I would expect drawing a closed freehand line to define an area and give it a top ceiling by entering this number in the properties of this area. and for underflyable objects like bridges a second property "bottom ceiling". That would be cool.

[@jeanstamour2236]

nice vidéo peter , i have mavic pro and love him , will follow your vidéo 🤗 , continue tu fais de belle vidéo et instructive 👍

[@juniorfolkes5788]

in what setting do u see where your at on the map.cause when am flying that little arrow doesn't move.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

It should always move. You can click on the map to enlarge it.

[@DirtyLew42]

Btw at around 4:45 u were completely legal with your altitude. You can fly over 400 feet if you are within 400 ft of another obstacle. Then you can fly 400 ft above that. So theoretically you can fly super high, but you might fly into controlled airspace. In that case, you have to contact the airport that controls that airspace. All of this is true if you are in the us, I just realized.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes exactly :D.

[@Bils1280]

Perhaps it´s useful flying at the inside of a building and losse signal

[@MarkLash]

Loved the video. Oh, that was your brother! I thought it was a Yeti! HaHa, just kidding. You are lucky to have your brother there with you. Thanks again for testing the P4P and the App and keeping us updated with your findings and also for showing us the beautifull places that you visit.

[@poulpedersen9854]

Cool made. I like how you are pushing your gear to the limit. I also Wonder how Many drones you have lost 👍😁

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Thanks. Actually I lost none so far :D.

[@MrHammer102]

I returned my K1because it just kept crashing with the DJI Go 4 like you it would crash many times back to back. Since it was within the 30 days I got a full refund. Even though I could still control my P4P I didn't like that fact. Great scenery and information as always.

[@rgodbout]

Verry good test ! Good job !

[@BirdWhisperer46]

Can you explain how you get those Fatshrks to work with the P4?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Through the HDMI out on the tablet.

[@BirdWhisperer46]

@@NeverMindYourOwn Looks like I have another tablet in my future. Thanks and great videos.

[@Alexdroneexploration]

Hey I have a question have you got any news from the aesa ?

[@yanisviksne186]

why you use 2,7 k, but not 4k video quality? i just want to know?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I always render down to 1080p, so shooting in 2.7k saves space. But still most often I shoot in 4k.

[@RobEinstein]

Peter, btw, any news about the AESA stuff?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

No not yet. As soon as I get news, I will make a video and let you guys know. They have to settle the matter within nine months. So by december 31st it is expired :-).

[@Podtschaske]

Would be interesting, what the manual says. 3D mapping of an area is a lot more than flying around a tree or rock in one or two heights. I am sure, the only thing what is mapped is the flown track and maybe only for a minute or so. And why should it go to the preprogrammed RTH height before starting the track back? The track itself (including the height on every position) should be safe. If the drone flies over the the track but in a fixed height (RTH height) it might now encounter obstacles, which were not in the original height. (A bridge or branches of a tree.) Guess RTH height is 50 m. You fly in 10 m under a 30 m high big bridge. The Drone loses signal under the bridge and goes into smart RTH mode. It climbs to 50 m (RTH height) to begin tracking back as soon RTH height is reached. OK, it tries to climb, but 20 m later it crashes into the bridge above it. Had it followed the track back in its original height (10 m) nothing would have happened.

[@Bixler1743]

Ive got a phantom 3 standard and i dont make amazing video is it worth upgrading to phantom 4 just for quick videos and fun flights?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

The P4 for sure is better than the P3 and the P4P is better than the P4. I think it is worth the upgrade. See the links in the description.

[@andygreen4314]

as ever hugely entertaining!

[@capohd28]

Are you using Android 7? I have 6 on my phone and tablet and don't have crash issues with either one. It looks like 7 Nougat is the one with issues.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes, these issues are with 7.0 indeed.

[@yanisviksne186]

hii Peter, i want to ask you about your computer or laptop what you use to watch 4k videos or use programm to put all videos together...what is a min requirements to see 4k videos?...my pc and laptop is not even play 4k videos....for example, what is your pc memory ram, procesor, grafic card etc...please help me to understand what kind of pc i need to buy....thank you...

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I have a very old pc. I does not show 4k either. Not even in Premiere. I always have to render it down to 1080p first. I have an Intel i7 CPU 920 @2.67 Ghz and 24 Gb ram. A lot of ram does help.

[@yanisviksne186]

Thanks a lot...which program you use for video editing??? sorry for so many questions..

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

No problem :D. I always put a lot of info in the description, such as the program I use to edit ;-).

[@Helderhugo]

Why you always visit islands?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Lol... Only two so far! But I like it because in 2 weeks you can see about all there is to see. Countries are so much bigger... :D.

[@Helderhugo]

NeverMindYourOwn come here. Small country. And I don't travel much. I am like if I was on an island. 90% of my drone videos are made around where I live. I have to be creative like you are to invent new situations to make new drone videos in the same places or near the same places :-)

[@ecleveland1]

Peter, I saw in the video that you were having trouble with the DJI Go 4 app crashing on your nvidia tablet. I saw were you said to delete other DJI apps and install clean GO 4 app. Have you heard of any other ways to keep the app from crashing? Is this only happening on Android tablets with the latest Android 7 update? I have a Phantom 4 and the nvidia shield tablet also, mine crashes after a few minutes of flying, same as yours appears to do.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

It's only happening on 7.0. If you have the HDMI-module installed, you might want to remove it, since that gives disconnection issues.

[@dkieng]

NeverMindYourOwn, I know you are using Nvidia Shield you can easily record your DJI Go app screen than using iPad device. I have the same issue with my Nvidia shield running DJI Go 4 app. It keeps crashing and lost signal to my Mavic Pro. Now, I switched back to my iPad mini and I never have any DJI Go 4 app crashes on the iPad mini device. Just my personal opinion, I think DJI Go 4 app is more stable on iOS than Android.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes it is. But screen recording is essential for me :-(.

[@sipapito]

@04:50 Why your video wabbles a lot?

[@616Drones]

invest on Apple ipad mini 4... saves you headache for a long run.

[@AaronGeyer]

I guess if I try doing this with my Phantom 4 (non pro) it's just going to try to fly over everything.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

If you have the SRTH on, yes.

[@AaronGeyer]

Interesting. I'll have to check it out next time I fly.

[@monkey_juice_6665]

also you have stock anntenna still?

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I was not allowed to fly further than 500 meters on the Azores, so it wouldn't make sense to have antenna mods there. Furthermore the stock antennas reach really far by itself already. Haven't been able to test that really yet, but I have seen videos of the Mavic going 7 km far...

[@monkey_juice_6665]

true true, I have not seen range test on p4pro, maybe next video after solving this mystery of 300 meters visual mapping lol

[@tesimpamonami9188]

Wow, Nice View! Where is that? See that your NVIDIA Tablet work fine with the Fat Shark! Ken had to return it!Lol

[@wepilotdrones578]

You really needed to have a Yeti(Sasquatch) suddenly appear in the brush to make this video complete.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Well... my brother was there!?!

[@wepilotdrones578]

NeverMindYourOwn LOL

[@monkey_juice_6665]

you need to make this happen, I'm watching you and now thinking do i or don't I purchase the p4pro! make it work or find out the answers lol

[@dronepro197]

Did you get an iPad yet it is now July 2018

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Nope. My NVIDIA Shield is working fine (now).

[@neilrobertson1345]

Great video how come on first video it keep lossing link with craft when using Hdmi module was module faulty keep up great vids impresive work

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I had an update of the DJIGoapp and firmware and then it gives these errors.

[@GavinCulverhouse]

Seems you had return of the wobble effect in the video again!

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes a bit. But in my replaced drone it is gone fortunately.

[@peterhughes2091]

Did the mast in the background give you any problems re frequencies clashing? Stick with the hoovering, I'm pretty sure people from Scotland will think it's fine 😂😂Safe flying. Peter

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Didn't notice that. In general I have experienced trouble with such mast only when you get rather close to them.

[@PBazBarrett]

I this its a android problem with the apps, I use a ipad 2 mini with ios and have never had any probs at all, the app has never crashed ever..

[@davidstaff3106]

hope this is a good one.....

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I hope so too :D.

[@AlexPina79]

Hi there, You should switch to iPad instead of android, I have been using my iPad and never have a problem.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes, but I need easy screen recording.

[@AlexPina79]

You're right..

[@WIGSPLITTERSRC]

too much iron in rocks it will mess with signal

[@wokbok43]

You have some jello going on ! On a P4 Pro sheeez crappy !

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes, the drone was replaced by DJI after I had sent it back.

[@AaronGeyer]

Good, I wasn't the only one who noticed.

[@dronepro197]

You are a funny guy I enjoy watching your videos you make me laugh sometimes I like the way you experiment with the DJ I application like the other guy said get an iPad they are designed to work with iPad

[@gececiyim87]

You are perfect! thanks

[@welshray1]

Set RTH altitude to 20ft, Then fly behind something (Not over it) that is higher than 20ft, Lose signal or turn off controller Drone will return via the path that you flew...

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes indeed, but that's not was I was looking for here.

[@welshray1]

From what i understand about this feature, there is no more to it. you did it all in your previous video. It's not actually creating an "Internal 3D Map" The wording on the website is misleading (Or Clever DJI Marketing) ;-) lol... All it is really doing is Automatically saving GPS Coordinates, altitude, and Direction data as you fly (Or if you prefer "Dropping Waypoints") That and the VPS safety Sensors preventing it from crashing if the GPS makes an error as it returns home...

[@jarisipilainen3875]

RTH go up level you set. it should detect tree and go around it(never withness it)its allready allways over trees.without you scan it first.its not any smart then. it should scan it on fly when RTH and go around building.never see i not bite that

[@wokbok43]

Ken Ken !!! 19.11 minutes ! Ken !

[@kevinhudson6256]

Man this is discouraging seeing the problems with the HDMI Module! Android seems to be a real problem too. These babies are just set up best with IOS for now I guess. I fly with the Air 2 and have not had one app crash in a year and a half. But I'm wanting to get into the goggles and I hate to hear that your having HDMI Module issues!

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

If you have the NVIDIA Shield K1, you can use the HDMI-out of the tablet, which is much better anyways, because you see the entire app with messages and all.

[@SCT149]

Get an iPad with Airshou!

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I might get an Ipad as a backup and if so, I will look into Airshou as well. Thanks.

[@luisalbertocortes1643]

Peter The Boss 🤙🏽🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆😁

[@1pros1t]

DJI should offer you a job as product tester! Seriously!!!!

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I would happily consider every offer they give me, but so far I have heard none, although they know of my existence.

[@RobNeves]

dji should hire you ;)

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I would already be happy if they would send me stuff to review... :D. But they don't :-(.

[@RobNeves]

wait for it ;)

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

I think they only moderately like me, because I am critical towards them :D.

[@ChrisZwolinski]

You know, Ken seemed to be having issues with his Phantom and his drone after an android update. I wonder if you're having the same issue. Check this out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2WwfaWKo9ZkY68

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Yes, there are two problems. When you have Android 7.0 the app crashes all the time. You'll have to delete all DJI apps and folders and clean install DJIGo4. The second problem is when you have the HDMI-module installed. The aircraft disconnects all the time even though you can still control it and see the video. The remedy is to remove the HDMI-module. You don't need it anyways, because you can use the HDMI-out of the tablet.

[@6r4metroman]

Haven't read all the replies, turn your RTH lower, then wont fly over the tree but around it!

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

RTH altitude can't be lower than 20 meters.

[@mev1982]

CoooooooooLLLLLLL

[@benjegekofzooo]

het werk toch....die drone kan 200m om hoog ..en die boom is 18m ...oke wat doet die 3d prg die zeg tegen die drone je moet er overheen ...als die een berg tegen kom en die is 500m dan zeg die tegen de drone kijk hoe je gekomen ben dus die 3d prg gaat aan dan ziet die dat die niet omhoog kan maar hij moet dan via de L kant of de K kant gaan ..zoo werk die 3d prg .ik hoop dat je het snap ..wat ik zeg tegen je

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Ja, ik snap het. We moeten objecten van minimaal 20 meter hebben. Maar toch ben ik van mening dat deze functie in de praktijk niet heel erg zinvol is, want wanneer vlieg je nou dwars door een gebied met meerdere meer dan 20 meter hoge obstakels, waarbij je zelfs je signaal niet terugkrijgt als hij 300 meter terugvliegt langs de route die je gekomen bent? Volgens mij kan je dat alleen maar overkomen als je in een veld vliegt met een heel aantal geïsoleerde hoge bomen (dus niet te dicht op elkaar) en je transmitter ineens helemaal uitgaat. Als jij een andere plek/situatie weet waarin ik het zinvol zou kunnen demonstreren, dan hou ik me aanbevolen :D. Ik kan namelijk niet achter gebouwen vliegen zonder METEEN al m'n signaal te verliezen.

[@marcelybarbosa1]

like..

[@user-hu1xj2uo4h]

Where are you now ?? 😂

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Still on Sao Miguel. See links with flight logs for exact position.

[@RodrigoCL]

1. Fly low following the path of the canyon so you don't have a direct view of the drone until you lose signal... that's what you should do to test this feature. 2. Get an iPad and stop complaining of crappy Android DJI Go app. 3.Period

[@AboveandBeyondGlobalDrones]

Rodrigo CL ~> Nvidia shield K1 is more powerful in CPU / GPU and recorder. Android 6 might be better than 7, some say. Apple is not a superior product over K1.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

Ipad is crappy with screen recording and that is essential for me.

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

There are two problems with the NVIDIA Shield. 1. When you have Android 7.0 the app crashes all the time. You'll have to delete all DJI apps and folders and clean install DJIGo4 and it should be fine then. 2. When you have the HDMI-module installed, the aircraft disconnects all the time even though you can still control it and see the video. The remedy is to remove the HDMI-module. You don't need it anyways, because you can use the HDMI-out of the tablet.

[@ExtraVerted]

I finally switched from my 2 android tablets to an iPad specifically for my P4P because yes the android app is terrible and I've had much better luck with the iPad than I have with either of the androids. Sounds advice all around.

[@AboveandBeyondGlobalDrones]

Robert Collins ~> Does the App crash at all in or while using the IPad? I suspect it does from other peoples responses. That's on DJI to fix ( after all this time).

[@Glen799]

almost fell asleep

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

There is nothing as good as some good sleep. Glad I could help :P.

[@thedroneranger7468]

You don't need to keep doing these tests! Stick to filming some decent views, sorry but this bored me a little. 😴

[@NeverMindYourOwn]

That's ok. I try to do a variety of things to keep things interesting, but of course not every episode will be as good for everybody all the time. Hope to see you on the next video though. Ooh, speaking of that... I HAD to crash the drone there... Don't tell anybody!

[@thedroneranger7468]

Of course haha, number one fan from the UK 👌