Hi Guys, in France, after a recent discount, the MSRP is 35000 euros. Coming from 53000 euros in January, what a bargain!
@mkei89736 ай бұрын
Hi, from Japan!! Japanese prefer to say letter “Z” as “Zetto”. Like BMW Z4 is “Zetto 4”. Nissan Z is “Nissan Zetto”. Dragon Ball Z is “Dragon Ball Zetto”. We love Zetto!! Ha ha. I always love to hear about exterior and interior from you two. Your explanation is very understandable as always. The greatest car channel more than any other car channel for me!!
@TestDriveVideos6 ай бұрын
Interesting to hear about Zetto and think he how it changes names of products. Also very thankful to have you watching as always!
@LafemmebearMusic6 ай бұрын
Why?
@mkei89736 ай бұрын
@@LafemmebearMusic I don’t know why Japanese call it “Zetto “. We have already been using it since we were a child.Thank you for the message!
@sbomorse6 ай бұрын
This is the equivalent of $69K in the UK. I have just collected my top spec AWD and it's lovely. I'm getting 3.8-4.1 miles/kWh which is great for this size of vehicle.
@LafemmebearMusic6 ай бұрын
You paid 70k for this!? 😮
@LafemmebearMusic6 ай бұрын
Seriously? 😳
@mortisvan6 ай бұрын
I'm getting 4.8 to 5.2/kWh.
@sbomorse5 ай бұрын
@@LafemmebearMusic yep. Mine was almost £53K with pearlescent paint.
@InfiniteSuccessAcademy5 ай бұрын
BTW, in Canada we say ZED instead of ZEE as well.
@Black-Villain6 ай бұрын
5:49 "If you get the $7500 thing..." Yeah that's kinda the problem, the bZ4X and Solterra don't qualify for the $7500 Federal Incentive. It might also (at least in AWD form) be the slowest charging EV on the market, other than *maybe* the small-battery Nissan Leaf, which has an air cooled battery and uses Chademo. The HVAC is also weirdly inefficient for some reason. I think Toyota still does the rolling 24 hour window of 2 DCFC sessions before DC charging is disabled? Ignoring the slow charging speeds, it pretty much eliminates this and the Solterra for road trips.
@EDUAROSOLAS6 ай бұрын
Well, all EVs are eliminated for serious road trips.
@EDUAROSOLAS6 ай бұрын
I think you are reviewing last year's model. I have the awd XLE model and get about 200 in Seattle at 80% charge. The vehicle has averaged 4 miles/kwh on on a 72.8 kwh battery. Not sure if it's a heat thing in Texas, but a full charge here would easily get over 250. Also, my 2024 doesn't have colors on the temp display.
@oilerlord73674 ай бұрын
We bought a low mile demo 2023 BZ4X limited (the same as you reviewed) for under $30,000, which is about the same price as an entry level RAV4. I guess at that price, that makes the BZ4X the best EV you guys have ever reviewed. Toyota designed the car for long term reliability, including the battery which was spec'd at 10 years with no more than 10% battery degradation. For us, this car is not lacking in quality of materials or fit & finish from the Lexus UX250h we traded in.
@Polymathes5 ай бұрын
A year ago I bought a bZ4X XLE AWD with the winter package and level 2 charging cable. It was $43k, not $53k. The limited edition has the 360 view and the funky rabbit ear spoilers which were not worth the extra money in my estimation. I'm pretty sure I'm getting better mileage and efficiency than in the video but I drive in eco mode all the time. Interesting it's compared to the Bolt in the video. I'm not sure they are in the same category in regard to build quality, reliability as well as passenger, cargo space and comfort. Yes, it definitely is a commuter car and not a cross county vehicle even though I've watched videos of drivers who did use it for that. I chose the bZ4X because I wanted all the pluses of driving an EV without having to operate it with an instruction manual in my lap or driving it from a computer screen. (yes, I'm old) There is also the value variable to be considered and value can be subjective at times. The Bolt is a cheaper ev with slightly more range but it's also a thousand pounds lighter, smaller and not as comfortable. Range was not an issue for me. At the price I was willing to pay the Toyota easily won. If my budget were ten grand more I might have considered something else.
@TomLawlor-iq6gm4 ай бұрын
My wife and me would have gladly went with a full EV were it not for the upfront cost. Our 2024 Prius Prime was close to $20,000 less than an entry level electric here. We are retired too and cost conscious but, not to the point where we're adverse to reducing our emissions by spending a little more. The Prime has taken us 5,700+ miles (9,100+km), in six months on just two tanks of gas. For us, the car is an EV, but one that's far more within reach for us (and many others).
@Fyreballs93 ай бұрын
current incentive offer is 16,250 right off the bat, brings it down pretty nice
@TheGooseChaseMusic5 ай бұрын
I dunno how different the X Mode in this is to my Outback, but it made a difference when I drove in snow the first time. Tires slipped going up a hill, i turned on X mode and it figured it out, surprisingly. Made up for my inexperience.
@iftea76 ай бұрын
This is a strategic, well thought out car to ensure that the media and toyota's investors stop bitching about no EVs as well as having a great justification for not making more EVs when the dollars lost is reporyed.
@OfficialCykaBlyat6 ай бұрын
This guy gets it
@ifoundbrian2 ай бұрын
A couple of comments that I feel are worth mentioning 1) absolutely nobody is buying this car at MSRP. I was able to get this for 33k (2024 limited awd) with zero hassle. This is not an isolated experience. I’m guessing Toyota will probably make price adjustments in the future to reflect this reality. 2) I am consistently getting about 12-15 mile more range than what’s advertised and if you look around, that experience is shared by many others. It’s worth pointing those out because you seem very confident in your ascertainments and people considering this car should know.
@MarcStanton16 ай бұрын
I’ve heard it called “busy forks “
@kapteinsnute3 ай бұрын
As a BZ4X owner myself, I completely agree with everything said in your conclusion. For me, the range is ok, but the price is just way too high. Thats why Im leasing mine, I would never buy the BZ4X for the asking price, it needs to come down. Im coming from a RAV4 plug in, the most noticeable thing was the floor height. Getting in and out of the car is very different, and my parents who are getting old and have difficulty with hip, leg & knee joints struggled quite abit, so I would say the bz4x is not a good car if these are things you have issues with
@jamesdavis55842 ай бұрын
I leased an XLE AWD 6 months ago. Traded in my 2014 Subaru Forester. If I chose to purchase the car in three years the total price will be about $33 K. That was a good value to me. I am curious what the definition of a commuter car is. Besides city driving, I intend to drive over a mountain pass to a cabin regularly. About 110 miles away. I have put in Level 2 chargers at my home and at the cabin - about $2000 in costs total. I am buying winter tires for the trips in the snow. I have been pleased so far. The safety features are quite good. What did surprise me was the costs of insurance. Triple that of my older Forester. With the adapters hopefully coming next year to use the Tesla chargers, that will allow for longer trips. One thing I learned: with the 8.3 inch clearance - important when you have experienced snow build up with 5 inch clearance - you do lose range. Will know more after the winter season as range is reduced by up to 30 percent in very cold temps per my understanding on all EV's.
@vijaykumar-m5p4sАй бұрын
The bZ4X seems like the perfect electric SUV. It looks comfortable, powerful, and efficient, with all the latest tech. Toyota has really created an EV that’s both practical and exciting to drive.
@andrewm58406 ай бұрын
“Nissan leaf moment” 😂 On a more serious note, this is the type of car review I come to everyday driver for. I’m always happy to hear the delightful things, but more so of the ocean of reality you guys deliver.
@repent67722 ай бұрын
Really love my bz4x.
@frankhuhmann59382 ай бұрын
Many testers did not give the reason for the missing glove compartment. the rz from lexus is on the same platform and has a infrared heater for the passenger at the point of the glove compartment. Maybe it's because of that. over 30% discount currently in Germany.
@tyhend885 ай бұрын
Great review video! You've got a new sub! I have the '24 XLE. It's my first EV and I love it! I haven't bought gas since April. I did the lease special which made the payment $300 a month with no money down. They have a similar lease deal now like other EV manufacturers. I have a few videos of my experience on my channel, and I hope to make great videos like yours one day!
@paradisopaul2 ай бұрын
The bZ4X has a striking but somehow polarizing design, either hate it or love it. I noticed the difference between the XLE with the smaller wheels and the Limited with the 20 inch rims makes a huge difference in this vehicle's overall look.
@jdonnelly8617Ай бұрын
It's a really expensive car to buy (for the range numbers at least), but for corporate lease in the UK it's at lower end of the offered scale at just over £400. I'm guessing that the lease plan is really a purchase of the depreciation. Toyota are making some incredible promises on the battery durability, so if that's a big driver of the resale price it becomes a very attractive corporate lease.
@stevemartegani6 ай бұрын
The most concerning thing about this video, is that Paul might not have seen Star Wars???
@TestDriveVideos6 ай бұрын
He’s seen some, but he’s never connected with them. It’s an ongoing joke between him and Todd. Thanks for watching!
@sakle6 ай бұрын
In finland kia ev6 is allmost 20k euros more expensive than solterras. Solterra touring mid trim level prices start from 47ke now, when subaru allready lowered prices twice in this year.
@L0rdVadr6 ай бұрын
On another note, I think the big price differential between this and something like the bolt is that they’re not in the same class (imo), isn’t the bolt way smaller of a car? Still expensive but just wondering
@welles286 ай бұрын
It's relatively expensive, has poor range, and looks like an Aztec. Don't think this is going to be a hit for Toyota.
@rdiamond6556 ай бұрын
Well said!
@TJDST46 ай бұрын
Don't think that it was supposed to be.
@paulh65176 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. Just like the old Aztek joke. What do you call two Azteks at a Pontiac dealership? A lifetime supply.
@EDUAROSOLAS6 ай бұрын
It doesn't look like an Aztech more than any other crossover EV. Have you seen the ID4? Both look fine in my mind, but I think the bz4x looks pretty cool. The name however...
@jaybou0075 ай бұрын
Well. Québec being bizarre-o-land again; these are all over the place, especially in Eastern Québec where ground clearance and AWD are going to be what matters. Granted, the piled up discounts, the low interest rates and the subsidies help. But when you chop down all the discounts, this is priced close to a base AWD Prius. And no matter what figure you look at, this is way more car than a Prius.
@aaroncontreras-slaughter50335 ай бұрын
Toyota has a $15,000 off lease deal right now even on the base XLE that makes this so worth it I got one and I love it. I have charging at home so range is a none issue for me. This vehicle is great for the regular everyday driver ha get it?
@L0rdVadr6 ай бұрын
Nice vid. I still think you guys should Hi-five each other everytime you switch sides. Make it happen.
@michaelbruno25086 ай бұрын
Saying the weird part, Todd is almost unrecognizable and looks 15 years younger when his hair is pulled back and needs to get it cut short. There. I said it. Now back to cars everyone.
@jywn4 ай бұрын
isn't bolt a lifted compact? and the bz4X a mid size SUV with actual ride hight? not like most crossovers EV?
@eliotdeag80406 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. I have a 2020 Toyota RAV 4 Hybrid AWD in excel trim and it's really good but not fun! This is too expensive, with a silly range and the boot (trunk) is smaller that the RAV4. And yep I really do use the RAV4 off road a lot, which is why I changed from an Estate Octavia vRS petrol with limited ground clearance ( but great car ). Cheers
@signal_yellow6 ай бұрын
That front end is just unfortunate. I think the Solterra looks substantially better in its grille and headlight design. But the shared interior just leaves me cold, especially the gauge pod and the shape of the center stack/console.
@brianmoran19684 ай бұрын
Shifting is very simple, you sound like my wife
@MrJv807Ай бұрын
xmode rant was very cringy, sorry fellas. its actually pretty great technology and very useful. its saying, hey, feel free to take me offroad on the weekends on that camping trip or to the mountains. you dont have to put this car in a box and thats that.
@mortisvan6 ай бұрын
Cry me a river over a damn volume knob for the freaking radio! There are two buttons on the radio for volume and a toggle switch on the steering wheel for the volume. As far as price goods, you pay for the Toyota quality. The Chevy EV will not last as long as the Toyota models. Toyota's battery warranty is 10 years / 150k miles. Chevy is 8 years / 100k miles.
@kensmith56945 ай бұрын
If Subaru had made a good EV, I would be driving one now. I think the Rivian will be what I buy.
@appopppppoppkpppoopppuddbhy6 ай бұрын
In China it costs 25-35 $ American dollars. This is nice price. 75 k for this - insanity.
@captainvector6 ай бұрын
Not a car that I have any interest in. It makes the Pontiac Aztek look good, so it’s got that going for it.
@chrissimmons99696 ай бұрын
Toyota just mailed it in with this robot.
@HardlyaDavidson6 ай бұрын
Toyota is getting too big of a head, and people are simply telling them yes I’d pay even more for my Toyota… Buying Honda all day every day if affordable goes along with reliable to you
@jena.mw486 ай бұрын
Not quite. Honda has the upcoming Prologue EV which will be even pricier... STARTING @ $47k Heaps better looking but not cheap.
@atg13385 ай бұрын
Honda's ev is $53k with $7500 tax break ... Toyota's ev is $46k with $15,000 tax break....
@atg13385 ай бұрын
@@jena.mw48 heaps better? Have you even drove either one?
@HandsomeAlex256 ай бұрын
This is 53k USD?! Base model is $53k CAD up here in your hat... how does that work?!
@sptrader63166 ай бұрын
My GF just bought a 24 Lexus UX250h, $45k, 450 range.
@LafemmebearMusic6 ай бұрын
450 miles? No that’s not accurate
@hariranormal55846 ай бұрын
54k for a poor range car is kinda sad.
@jakey200226 ай бұрын
The hyundai ioniq 5 I think is a better value
@bahrahme6 ай бұрын
You cant say it drives fine if its just 20,000 cheaper. You can literally say the samething for any cars. Porche taycan drives amazing if its only 50,000 cheaper. Ford lightning is amazing ev truck if its priced 30,000 cheaper. Ioniq 6 is tesla killer if its 20,000 cheaper. Any car is great and amazing if its cheaper.....
@kasmstamps18976 ай бұрын
24:10 buy a used Tesla. It may even have a chance of making money for you without leaving the driveway.
@djplonghead54036 ай бұрын
Get a rav 4 hybrid.
@michaelvella85116 ай бұрын
Too bad they wasted a nice practical design on an all electric car like this....these days Toyota always denies us with somthing or other in all their vehicles it seems....
@jena.mw486 ай бұрын
What practical design? It's a basic CUV/SUV like rav4, highland, etc
@tedadamgreen6 ай бұрын
This is the first video I’ve seen from yall ever that I have FORCED myself to watch … not because of yall but the vehicle. This vehicle is so not great it’s just sad. But I am with yall through thick and thing … so here I am guys … (And I am a Toyota fan overall, and I do NOT dislike EVs or SUV/CUVs)
@ChoPi-Eww6 ай бұрын
Vehicle aside, they do have some pretty funny comments
@tedadamgreen6 ай бұрын
@@ChoPi-Eww absolutely! Made it totally worth the watch
@brandonbergeron46686 ай бұрын
Just in time for prime day and was planning to get one for our September vacation. You could do room cooling fans, air purifiers
@frankcoffey6 ай бұрын
The weird thing is people are buying them. I'm sure Toyota is horrified sales are going up. They tried like hell to make this thing unattractive, uncompetitive on specs and price, and even told people the wheels would fall off and yes, gave it a crap name, and people are still buying them! They sold almost 10,000 of them in the US last year and might sell twice that in 2024! This is a disaster for Toyota because every sale takes one sale from their high margin tailpipe cars and proves their "customers don't want EVs" talking point wrong.
@c0rnd0g_196 ай бұрын
People are LEASING them because you can lease them for next to nothing. We have a Solterra and it's great. We've averaged 3.5 miles per KWh on the first 1,000 miles and it's just a great vehicle to drive.
@LafemmebearMusic6 ай бұрын
People don’t want evs . 😅🤷🏾♀️ overall that statement is true. And you know why , infrastructure… it’s infrastructure
@LafemmebearMusic6 ай бұрын
@@c0rnd0g_19you got a great deal and that’s influencing your feeling of it being a great car 😅🤷🏾♀️
@frankcoffey6 ай бұрын
@@LafemmebearMusic My infrastructure is in my garage. Having level 2 at apartments should be the next thing. Public charging should be for travelers and emergencies only.
@sinabagheri71203 ай бұрын
The leasing price of the BZ4X in Quebec is comparable to the cost of leasing a Corolla plus the cost of gas.
@HandsomeAlex256 ай бұрын
Styling wise, I'm not a fan of that droop over the rear wheel - it's done on other cars, and I don't like it there either - and the front black section that goes from wheel-well exacerbating to just running off to make friends with the headlight... That panel ruins both the bz4X and Solterra for me. Especially the lower trims where it's just unpainted plastic!
@gordonmills27486 ай бұрын
I saw the Subaru version - the Solterra - parked at the chargers where I work. What a stunningly ugly automobile. It looked especially bad parked next to the Polestar 2. That said, the latter is disappointing as far as interior space goes. And yeah...I drove a Bolt for work a few years ago, and that's a great zippy little city car. No way I'd pay over 50k for this.
@atg13385 ай бұрын
It's not over 50 and it has 15k in rebates.... you drove that lil bolt toy and you have the balls to talk about other vehicles 🤣🤣🤣
@HansomEden-o1g4 ай бұрын
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@Victic0056 ай бұрын
It's the worst EV, made by a company who hates EV.
@jaybou0075 ай бұрын
With how Elon’s acting at the moment, there’s absolutely no way he gets my money. No way. Not a penny in my pocket will ever go to Trump’s campaign. Forget it. This BZ4X is fine, frankly. It’s not just an appliance. Let’s call it an amusing appliance. Like this fridge that talks to you. There’s a BZ4X in my driveway right now. I’m very, very, very happy with it.
@TomLawlor-iq6gm4 ай бұрын
How can a person have the obvious intellect of Musk and support trump. One needs to be as evil as trump to back him and the rest of the GOP idiots. They are dangerous.
@paulmarcellus8409Ай бұрын
No longer a campaign!
@jaybou007Ай бұрын
@ You don’t say. Thanks, Sherlock.
@Wayne_de6 ай бұрын
no thanks, I will take Tesla model Y Long Range rear-wheel drive with a rated range of 320 miles for $38.5k after $7500 and before state incentive.
@tommynickels45705 ай бұрын
Avoid. Overpriced. Milktoast.
@atg13385 ай бұрын
How is 45k with 15k in rebates overpriced?
@Molishious6 ай бұрын
I have a lot of confidence in Toyota’s capabilities so I can only conclude that they made this intentionally bad so that they wouldn’t have to make of sell many of them. They made the decision to put a smaller battery in this so the range is low and the AWD has two small motors giving it the same horsepower as the FWD. Nobody else does that. On a more subjective level, my opinion is that they made this ugly inside and out. It has wheel well cladding that makes it look like it got in an accident and was repaired with the wrong parts. The inside has that terrible instrument cluster and yes if you want to sabotage your car, give is buttons for the volume rather than a knob. Then make it charge slowly and limit the number of times you can charge it in a day. See? EVs suck so you should keep buying hybrids and ICE vehicles.
@j.redbeard996 ай бұрын
One of the worst cars for sale in North America, I just watched this one for laughs.
@atg13385 ай бұрын
Ever owned one? Drove one? Had an ev before?
@naveenthemachine6 ай бұрын
Wow you really suckered yourselves into driving this pathetic vehicle. Another DOA product from Toyota as usual You should have just garaged it and pretended it doesn’t exist. Then when the car goes back to Toyota just say oh I forgot to review it
@TestDriveVideos6 ай бұрын
We make a concerted effort to drive everything we are sent, no matter our interest. At minimum they get podcast coverage, but videos ideally. We’re not the reason for declaringToyota products DOA as usual, but no manufacturer is immune from duds. Thanks for watching!
@naveenthemachine6 ай бұрын
@@TestDriveVideos but usually Toyotas the one who puts out more DOA products than other brands.
@justinschultz43256 ай бұрын
Toyota and Subaru are terribly behind on making compelling EV's. There's no reason to buy this over the competition. My opinion: Only Toyota and Subaru loyalists will buy this.
@naveenthemachine6 ай бұрын
@@justinschultz4325 that’s the case with just about any Toyota 😂. There’s no reason to buy them over the better executed competition whether it be ev hybrid or gas
@ChoPi-Eww6 ай бұрын
This will sell, but not to enthusiasts. Toyota is perceived as the bastion of reliability in an internet world of “here’s the one FATAL FLAW” videos. I applaud there’d team for not yielding to this KZbin formula, but rather coming up with unique observations and interesting road trips.