Toyota Crown Signia - Bring on the Wagons - Test Drive | Everyday Driver

[@markcoopers1930]

6.7" of ground clearance. So close to a wagon. Keep in mind the "lifted" buick regal tourX was 5.8". Thats now a proper car by comparison. But closer than the 8.1" on the outback and Volvo V60 cross-country GR version lowered to 5" and some form of iforce max powertrain would be a spicy family hauler Spicy in the way kids think mint toothpaste is spicy, but still something

[@Hero4Hire4]

Guys thanks for this excellent review! You answered exactly what I wanted to know about this vehicle. I currently own a 2017 RAV4 hybrid. I’m 6’5”. When I first bought that car getting into and out of it wasn’t a problem. My joints have stiffened as I am turning 65. I wanted to trade in for something easier to get in and out of. You perfectly addressed that, and the ride height! I was thinking about going with a Camry XLE, but I think that Crown Signia will be a better fit. I truly appreciate you both. I’m glad I subscribed! 🫡

[@RichardG-qb1xw]

As a RAV4 Prime owner, hoping this comes with Toyota's PHEV drivetrain at some point in the future, 300+ HP and plug ability would be a great option for this vehicle.

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

I agree but they'd charge 60k+ for that thing and that's gonna be a huge problem so I'm not holding my breath

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

I can see the ads for the GR crown now: "It's the GR corolla... But GRown up"😂

[@corysekine-pettite1783]

I've actually been waiting for this to start showing up at dealerships so I can test-drive. I'm currently looking for a replacement for my 12-year-old Outback.

[@jw90201]

There is a Camry wagon, in that same color, just down the street from me. It's in good shape, no real rust showing. It won't die, it seems.

[@laja82]

I'm a current Lexus IS owner who was looking to move up to a Lexus SUV and now that I've discovered the Crown Signia I'm no longer considering a Lexus. This car ticks all the boxes now that Toyota is improving their interiors. I can't wait to test drive it. Great review, thanks guys!

[@JuanLopez-kw9of]

Thank you for calling it a wagon! As a big fan of wagons and hatchbacks, I will never understand the aversion to the term since they are so practical and way more fun to drive than SUVs. I would seriously consider it if it weren't a CVT . Reliability concerns aside, I just don't like the way they feel/drive.

[@StopWhatYerDoing]

This has an eCVT, not a regular CVT. They're completely different, and eCVTs are actually one of the most robust and reliable transmissions you can get today. I've not driven one, but I have heard that they feel smoother and less rubber-bandy than CVTs.

[@MrNemo721]

Spiritual successor to the original Venza is the hybrid Outback Subaru won't make. That interior would have been home in a Lexus 5 years back. Toyota did well here.

[@tinhinnh]

outback is more wagon-y than the old venza

[@wrxtuan]

Our family had a 1995 Toyota Camry Wagon V6 LE. The Camry Wagon had a rear facing 3rd row which as a kid growing up in one was like luxury. Always a wagon fan ever since (currently driving a 2002 IS300 SportCross).

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

My first 4 vehicles were a Volvo wagon, a 300zx, a VW Golf, and a 1985 RX7. all were hatchbacks. Now I have an RX8, an is300, an E28 533i, and I'm shopping for a z3. So I went from all hatchbacks to all trunks. One thing I've noticed, I used to be MUCH better about not leaving things in my trunk indefinitely. Out of sight, out of earshot when I take the corner, out of mind.

[@mkei8973]

Hi, from Japan!! I’m glad that it seems you two were not involved in other dangerous drivers again in San Diego. The name of the car is Crown Estate here in Japan. It’s funny it happens often car names are different in each countries. Well, 4 types of Crown exist here in Japan. One of these named Crown Sports is like more sports styled SUV so there is possibility that the car would be adopted in U.S. instead of GR Crown Signia.

[@tinhinnh]

well “Estate” here in the States would sound like real estate to some people so thats why they didnt use it

[@harrygatto]

@@tinhinnh A "Wagon" in the UK is an "Estate car". Also in the UK, a large area of enclosed private land with a large house in the middle of it is also called an "estate". A deceased person's assets and belongings are called their "estate". These terms are rarely confused or misused. Here in Japan I have a Toyota Crown Athlete Estate, all these English words are written on the tailgate and to the best of my knowledge have not confused anyone despite not being written in the local native language.

[@tinhinnh]

“estate” would not do well in the states as it sounds “old” to most people

[@omidnamin9004]

they're going to sell millions of these. a good looking exterior without being "polarizing or weird", beautiful interior, reasonable price and a reliable Toyota hybrid. what else can you ask for

[@AP_allday]

I doubt they’ll sell more than the rav4 or highlander. It’s in kind of an odd place segment wise

[@tinhinnh]

not likely as they’re only making 20k a year 😂

[@ohcanadaeh]

It is a wagon and history tells us wagon does not sell as well as SUV. The Signia is a lifted Camry wagon and it also reassembles the old wagon based Venza

[@tinhinnh]

its not a true wagon but this is as close to a wagon as we will get from toyota for us

[@DM72513]

I think it’s overpriced with that power plant.

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

I'm gonna wait for the refresh of this for the 5th Gen hybrid. This is coming after the Camry so they could have done it. I'm in love man. The price is a bit of a problem for me but I'll start saving for that bigger deposit

[@Alan-z7i6t]

The color comes across as a dirty blue. Ive seen it in all three and i think its better in red - personal opinion

[@stevemartegani]

Too bad Toyota isn't doing the 300hp V6 anymore, would he great with this and a couple inches lower.

[@jims98z28]

I'm very interested in this for my wife. It would amuse the hell out of me if she likes it, she hates wagons

[@strayedcat1966]

Wagon rule! Drive one

[@superalain1961]

Back lights are very Jaguars F Pace…. But I love it it will sell and Toyota will send back the Crown sedan back home , need more cars like this !

[@Jorge_Magallon]

Great review. And how did I not see the “GR-own” coming?

[@sshhddoo9892]

I love that we just want GR everything lol

[@seb5945]

Borrow some design cues from Mercedes CL. And call it a CL-own.

[@lester6166]

So it's the second generation of the Venza that we deserve whereas the second gen Venza is really just a relaxed styled RAV4.

[@aroundomaha]

The crown sedan reminds me of the David Byrne shoulder pad suit. This looks nice and I’m interested in it as step up from our Alltrack wagon.

[@strayedcat1966]

Take me to the river...

[@TrinaStephenson]

Had 7 Subarus including 4 Outbacks, one Crosstrek(least favorite), one Forester, and my original one the 1993 Impreza front wheel drive which I used studded snow tires on and it was great. I am considering this Crown Signia due to size, wagonlike bearing, awd, hybrid, and the fact that the closest Subaru dealer is 2 plus hours in every direction, but there is a Toyota dealer within 50 miles. I am like the grandparents from Calgary... but it is a little too rich for my blood and not sure about tires. I run all terrrain tires on my 2020 Outback with 75,000 miles. Bring on the Outback hybrid soon Subaru or I will have to seek alternatives as we are a one vehicle family living in the middle of nowhere and do not want to break down. Original cars in the 80's were Hondas but their CRV did not have a good enough AWD system and slipped in snow and got stuck in mud that the Subaru would have had no trouble with. Also had Civics and a Honda Wagon using studded snow tires in Vermont but now in altitude of New Mexico. A little concerned about ground clearance as well. We do not always plow or shovel our road in every snowstorm and it can have quite a bit of snow that we plow our Outback through just barely...

[@cablebrain9691]

I’d love to see a direct feature-to-feature, spec-to-spec, performance-to-performance, and comfort-to-comfort comparison, between this and the 2025 Camry XLE/XSE.

[@dack981]

A GRown Signia could be really interesting to enthusiasts, potentially in more ways than the Kona N was. If it could still be around $50k I'd actually buy it too.

[@blu_is500]

You guys are hilarious! I think y'all should get a Signia and GR-it-up for Toyota. #AnotherProjectCar 😀 Thanks for posting!

[@midnightexpress1567]

I like the Signia. But I like the Mazda CX-70 better

[@signal_yellow]

I wonder if I could nudge my boomer parents toward a base (XLE) Crown Signia. They have a 2014 Forester but are increasingly hybrid-curious and wouldn't mind something quieter and more refined. I also like the newest CR-V Hybrid for them, but knowing my parents, they'll probably end up in their third consecutive Forester without so much as a test drive.

[@Splendid_Lad]

Audi, Mercedes, and Volvo are the only brands I know that still sell true wagons… not jacked up in ride height ones, but just normal everyday wagons. The Outback has turned into an SUV, they even market it as one on their website. This is probably the closest thing to a wagon from a mainstream brand.

[@strayedcat1966]

Mercedes fugly wheel well plastic cladding (All-Terrain) ruined their wagon for North America. Trying to make look like an SUV. Wagons are so practical and handle way better than SUV's.

[@snowrang3r657]

I’m all for more wagons. If Mazda took their CX-70/90 platform and made a RWD based AWD I6 wagon I’d be even more excited though. Would love to see you guys review the V60 Polestar engineered wagon. I think it’s the only not “cross country” version sold today.

[@ShoobiKenoobi]

Straight pipes did the photoshop. Looks great!😊

[@HyperVanilo]

00:49 Well, in Japan it's called Crown Estate so you only fight Toyota US

[@Offensively-normal]

I think Toyota nailed it as far as features, functions and benefits go. Looks are subjective and apparently expensive.

[@jrnumex9286]

best thing to happen to the crown, getting rid of price Andrew. 90's Camray wagon h.. yea

[@LuizStocklerHenrique]

Now let's just wait half a decade or so for the revision to fix the excessive wind noise around the a-pillars and the redesign of the lower front door seals to keep doors free from mud and slush deposits.

[@richardcasey7521]

Good review! I bought one in the bronze color. I Iove it!

[@krzysztofcwik5347]

Crown sienna - phev, 8 seats like in carnival, childseat tilt like in pacifica - this what i want in EU

[@tinhinnh]

This is a Signiaficant upgrade to the venza

[@snowcat256]

My first car was an ‘89 Camry Wagon with a V6. I loved it, it was such an unassuming looking thing, but it could haul a ton of stuff and it could sure rip when needed.

[@bertito43]

Can’t wait for Toyota to bring the crown sport to the US

[@garrettscott4748]

How about a GR Century?

[@dogdoc1]

How does the cargo space compare to the Kia EV6?

[@ymlccc]

i will keep my gla45 for myself and push my wife to buy this "suv" as her car and our family road trip car 😉 now we have two "suv" at home that she approves.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

I remember when the Toyota Venza first came out I checked it over, and realized it was just an Avalon wagon. Toyota replaced the Avalon with the crown, so this follows logically

[@jeffos8724]

Great execution …except for the wheels and low profile tires.

[@nazspeed1]

I still need a crown sport in america!

[@dennisthewalker]

I like this car and I'm happy we getting wagons but this car has the same problem of why most of wagon lover don't buy or consider the outback as a wagon. The SUV like front end makes this thing looks like a grand highlander more then a actual wagon like the Audi Allroad, Mazda 6 wagon, Subaru Levorg, Volvo V60 etc.

[@10tenman10]

I like the look

[@tinhinnh]

is it a camry wagon or highlander sport

[@bc8Sooners]

It'll be nice if they add a Crown platinum engine into this and add a trim. GR Signia.

[@raymondswenson1268]

My next new car.

[@davids1816]

I think they didn't put the turbo in this to protect the Lexus RX.

[@kurtgrundel4045]

Yeah. Wagons are coming back. Volvo and Subaru kept them in the States but bring back more options. Hope Mazda follows. How many SUV and CUV actually go off dirt roads?

[@roberthart9886]

I have owned a 2004 Saab wagon since 2008 (paid $7900 MSRP north of $37,000 new), now has 174000 miles. 2.3 liter turbo engine still runs strong leather, sunroof, handles great, very comfortable. Due to being outdoors in S FL sun it needs; a few dings to be repaired, a paint job, drivers seat leather, ac repair... all in ~ $5K to put it right and it would run circles around that $40K plus pig

[@howardbrandon11]

15:11 StraightPipes did that in their review

[@rdiamond655]

A GRown with 400 hp? Right in the “Sweet Swath” of power.

[@TestDriveVideos]

We need to start using this term! Thank you!!

[@bradkalman2353]

With the top of the line Tacoma engine awd.

[@davidderrico9534]

Aren’t you paying more for what is essentially a camry ? This is over 4000 pounds with a few more horses than a camry and ecvt? How is it a good deal paying an extra 10k for few horses maybe 8 horses and a heavier slower car ?

[@User.Joshua]

The sedan version needs a new face and it also needs a hatch.... so kinda what the Signia is now that I think about it lol

[@kostaspiliopoulos1531]

Slap a LC500 engine under the hood.

[@FlowStateNewOrleans]

At this price, it should have the iforce max engine if they insist on it having a 4 cylinder.

[@FlowStateNewOrleans]

Also, Yuri from The Straight Pipes photoshopped it lower in their review.

[@ndenkha]

I don't like the weird Crown "sedan" that we have in the states, I wish that car never existed and we just got the real sedan that the Japanese market has. This Signia is definitely much nicer and I hope we get the other Crown CUV.

[@NLLHW]

Ok now bring over the actual Crown sedan

[@whozatwhatszat3312]

I’m 42 years old, sold my STi, have a Pro 4Runner, and this seems perfect for me. I miss my LS430, and I miss my FJ100 Land Cruiser. This is what I’m looking to sell my Prius for.

[@tamilhoward9708]

could you lift this ever so slightly? I am just thinking about putting some slightly more aggressive tires on this and having a luxe stealth adventure vehicle. Just thinking out loud. Don't shoot me.

[@strayedcat1966]

Non turbo, it's normally aspirated direct & port injection. A25A-FXS engine RE: The Car Care Nut on YT, TCCN Automotive INC.

[@brockcrow5621]

The crown sedan is the ugliest new car on the market. This is not bad at all.

[@Dillingham-]

Please let us buy one painted like a Tokyo taxi

[@bobbykhan5787]

I know people want to hate on EV’s particularly Tesla but 45-50k for a Toyota wagon that is slow as well? People seem like they’re willing to pay anything just to not have an EV. You can get Model Y, Ioniq 5, EV6 for cheaper, maybe Mach E as well (at least lease). The pricing of daily driving ICE/hybrid/PHEV cars are largely not justifiable anymore over comparable EV’s especially with tax credits or offers simulating tax credit. Unless you really love a vehicle. It’s the market taking advantage of charging fears and build quality in some cases. How many more thousand $$ does that justify? The car companies are laughing their way to the bank.

[@ViciousFirearms]

This has double the range of every EV in existence with the added advantage of being able to fill up the tank in 2 minutes max. Not to mention much better build quality and materials than any of the EVs you just mentioned.

[@Ali-M2]

The real crown sedan sold in japan sits higher than this in the lineup

[@bradkalman2353]

I thought The Crown is good looking.Wish it had more horsepower though.

[@justforyoublue]

Put a b58 in it

[@seb5945]

It identifies as an SUV. No matter how its looks may suggest otherwise.

[@sshhddoo9892]

I hate that I kind of like this.

[@tonelocrian]

why ?

[@tech5882]

You guys are in love with RS6 for sure, but when you're talking about the competition, somehow you're omitting the A6 Allroad, which is almost the half price of the RS6, but is in the same class as Insignia. Yes, it's still more expensive, but it's more luxurious and powerful. I feel like Audi is intentionally not marketing it because they don't like to hurt sales of RS lineup.

[@ryancheng473]

As a wagon owner, this is just a suv😂

[@obedjimenez4229]

The Equinox EV is bigger than this “midsize SUV”.

[@erictate5985]

I WANT THE SEDAN😂I DONT WANT A WANGON!!!!😢

[@kjuddnelson5426]

I hear CVT drone during the test drive . . . no thanks

[@IslandTosh]

5th. Generation. Hybrids.

[@soulsbourne]

With those tyres that would explode if you go over a tiny pea sized pebble, that's not a wagon... Neither an SUV...

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

Paul, I’m surprised at you. Why would a Lexus buyer choose a Lexus version of this car? Because the Lexus buyer has never set foot in a Toyota dealership once in their life. Or if they have, they never intend to again. Toyota could take that car exactly as it is, change the badge, and sell it for $3000 more at the Lexus dealership. People will pay that much just for the badge. Lexus buyers are not typically as vain as Audi or Mercedes or BMW buyers but they often care about escaping the utilitarian image of Toyota. They want to show off that they are not only pragmatic but also will pay more money for finer things.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

Lexus is a humble brag. except my Lexus my Lexus is just cool it’s got an in-line six double wishbone front suspension and manual transmission limited slip rwd differential find me another sedan that will do that for me thanks goodbye.

[@DontFeedTheTrolls]

Toyota make good cars, trucks and SUVs but i feel like they never look or feel nice enough to justify the price. I've never owned one, but that is basically why. I guess I just don't like Toyotas.

[@legacyjeetkunedo492]

You're the outlier.

[@bradkalman2353]

Gr it.😂

[@JohnZolla-bp7tl]

Don't like it. I'll keep my Outback. Need the ground clearance for Montana back roads.

[@swptx]

Yet another crossover that will be marked up and eaten up by the entire millenial public

[@valentinorossi7771]

Hybrid is the way to go as it gives you instantaneous torque and that is where this Crown will steal sales from Subaru whose 2,5 lt NA engine is anemic

[@Premier424]

It's a crown, where is the crown logo?

[@noobeenaut]

I do wish it had the crown logo. If I buy one of these, one of the first things I do will be to swap out the Toyota badges with the crown badges from Japan.