TESTED: Hornady 7mm 150 grain CX Bullets w/Ballistics Gel (7mm Rem Mag)

[@jmwhiterock]

I'd like to see these tested side by side with the Barnes ttsx bullets

[@guyminer2384]

We are looking forward to doing some tests with Barnes bullets as well.

[@beenstork]

I’d especially like a comparison with the Barnes LRX line of bullets. They are more comparable in features. Really the biggest advantage for both is the “rounded” cannelure grooves. Hornady boasts of a revolutionary bullet but the Barnes LRX beat it to the market, I believe

[@mikenavy360]

Or the GMX

[@mikenavy360]

Picked up some for the 375 Ruger and hoping to do a black bear hunt

[@guyminer2384]

@@mikenavy360 - that ought to be a great hunt! I like thumping bears with my 375 H&H, your 375 Ruger should be even better!

[@robbiek5oh]

Glad to see 7mm content; 7mag is a big game harvest machine; from small deer to big moose, it delivers all the terminal performance you need

[@masonmcneill3969]

Just used the 190 CX in my 300 PRC on a big bull elk a few weeks ago and the results were DRAMATIC! Clean entrance and exit no bigger than a quarter but the effect on target was insane… long story short he didn’t take a single step

[@colearmstrong2450]

How far was the shot curious to see how they behave at longer ranges with lower velocity

[@twitchc6c723]

Took my mule deer this year with Hornady Outfitter in 6.5 creedmoor. Rifle was a tikka with 24” barrel. Shot was at 150 yards. Bullet passed through but took out both lungs and top of the heart. Will be using the same setup for my spike elk coming up in December.

[@joeynewman9439]

I just picked up a box of 150 grain CX 7mm two days ago . Perfect timing of this video.

[@war_moose5814]

I grew up in Maine hunting whitetail with a 7mm Rem Mag. Savage 116 all weather. Rifle is almost as old as I am and love it.

[@patrickschultz8820]

Great video you two, nice to see Guy so often! I haven't found a CX bullet on the retail shelves around here that fits into my calibers. Soon hopefully. Related content is that I started using 150 GMX in a 308 in 2019 pushed with CFE 223 at 2,919 fps mv. I haven't recovered a bullet from a Mule deer yet, but the deer collapse every time. I also started shooting TTSX and LRX in almost all my hunting rigs. The latest, a 140 TTSX from a 7mm-08, Ruger American compact, 2744 fps mv, took one shot at a cow elk from 498 yards, bullet impacted just forward of the shoulder at 1720 fps (according to the Hornady ballistic app) got 90-95% expansion and she dropped dead as that bullet crushed her spine/neck. Only TTSX bullet I've recovered from elk. 4th elk taken with the Barnes. Barnes told me that bullet needed 1,800fps for full expansion. I also like knowing there are no lead fragments in my meat! Cheers

[@guyminer2384]

Very nice. Congrats on the kills. Ya, the Barnes is a good bullet for sure. Our choices in unleaded/monolithic bullets are expanding. And yes, they certainly do work well on game.

[@nohandle257]

I have a THIRD reason to use solid copper bullets for you. We shoot a lot of pigs around here. We don't eat them but the vultures do. Vultures are our friends most times and we don't want to give them lead poisoning.

[@jonfarrar9666]

Shot a whitetail with hornady superformance 55gr. CX 5.56, 7mm-08 139gr CX, and outfitter 270win 130 gr.CX. Great bullets.

[@Countryboy81]

Barnes perfected this. All my rifles shoot barnes better than any other I tested. Load lighter bullets than lead. They like to go fast for proper expansion. I loaded 80 gr TTSX for my 10 year Olds 243. He dropped a buck in its tracks. He never made a move. The bullet went in on top of the shoulder and came out behind the shoulder on the other side.

[@thedirtygot9570]

I agree, but they’re 6.5 creedmoor loads are pretty anemic

[@waynemensen4252]

I would like to see them tested against the new Barnes LRX. I've been hunting, food animals, with Barnes since 1988-1990 ish, when the tsx became available. I often don't have much blood the first 20yds, but it's spraying out both sides after that. It's rare that they don't pass completely through. I have a lot of Hornady products and I'm sure these are going to be nearly the same.

[@fishhunt9874]

One of the things I really like to see is the spiral markings left behind in the first block showing the bullets rotation

[@SEOKLADUCKIN]

Got to try Hammer bullets, I'm getting great results,

[@jeramiewalker8947]

My Tikka t3x lite compact loves the 139 in the superformace line. I've upgraded the rifle graeboe Phoenix2, mountain tac bottom metal and anarchy outdoors trigger spring. Placed around with different scopes, started with a Burris full field lV 2.5 x 10. Replaced that with a 3-15 *42 vortex razor hd lht. Rifle shot the same and held the same -0+ at the 200 yard range.

[@honestcomrade]

First of all, I'm very thankful that you posted the OAL of the projectile here: that's something Hornady was remis to do for some reason. I can't find out published length anywhere for some reason. Secondly, I'm waiting for the 130gr 7mm CX to come out (which their load data suggests will be released at some point) as 150gr is a bit on the heavy side for my 7mm08.

[@terryogden3339]

I agree. Load it down to 2000/1900 fps to verify max range performance. Thanks for always doing a great job.

[@EdAb]

308 at 2000 and 1800 fps!!!! Absolute must have tests! Thank you😃

[@MarcosCaminante]

That No1 “S” model is so awesome I bought the same one today in 300 win mag.

[@ladon.grantiigrantii5701]

Loan 150gr cx 7mm in 7-08 or 7x57 you could Loan it to 2000fps for your next test

[@stephencarmichael5156]

I load the 139g CX up to 2800fps with Varget. The ideal bullet would be the ECX Eruopean bullet in a 7mm offering so you get the flat nose to expand better at lower speeds out of the 7mm-08.

[@Clark8435]

I use the 130 grain in my waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC with Leupold CDS scope. Awesome rig

[@larshcdk]

It would be SUPER interesting to see the performance at the lower ranges of the bullets performance window - around the 2000fps mark you mention. I think this is were the current generation of lead-free bullets may lack a bit behind traditionel lead based bullets. Of course lead free bullets will perform perfectly at 100-200-300 yards when they are well above 2000fps.. But what happens when you load a CX 165gr in a 308win with V0 of around 2800 fps - then you almost cut the effective range, compared to the 7mm, in half, meaning that you would be way closer to it's recommended minimum velocity for reliable expansion.. So, short version; Definitely do the tests around the minimum velocity

[@TheDiamonddave2]

I have a great load for my 6.8 SPC using the 85 grain CX bullet that is sub minute in my AR15 platform. It can shoot sub 3 minutes at 300 yards. I haven't tested it yet on a hog, but should do fine. My last hog was with the 110 grain TTSX Barnes bullet out of my 308 AR10. It was a brain shot and it was DRT. Did not recover the bullet. Also, very accurate in the AR10.

[@jamesmooney5348]

Good to see Guy.

[@unleashmage]

I have been using the 225grain cx .338 cal. The gun I was using was the Christensen arms (MPR) .338 Lapua for about a month know and last week I took a black bear with it at 732 yards on an angled bear where I had to put the bullet Thow the second last rib. I found the bullet on the other side in the hide and all I can say is wow. In fact, I believe the cx bullet did a better job than the 270grain eld-x would have.

[@guyminer2384]

Impressive! Congrats on the bear. I do thoroughly enjoy bear hunting.

[@dhsu04]

I've got a Weatherby meat eater edition 7mm rem mag. Pew pew pew!!!

[@stevedalton800]

Hard to beat the Ole 7 mm rem mag..been my favorite for many years..

[@dougblessin]

I plan to use the CX in 6mm in my new build. 6MM ARC on a Christensen Arms Ridgeline receiver, IBI Barrel 7.5 twist varmint profile, MDT HNT26 with a TriggerTech Trigger, Just waiting on all the parts and pieces to get here :)

[@MsKatjie]

The day just gets better. No joke peoples. I was looking through amounts of powers used; as to the speed generated. Noticed the faster burning types, seemed to use less mix, for the velocity. But just hearing the hint about powder tip and ultimate Wacko potentual with the slower powders, was illuminating. As applies to 270W and 375 H&H.

[@sakostwwy1903]

I would really love to see a video series of a showdown of several different mono bullets like the CX. Shoot them in a serious magnum like a 28 Nosler, 7 STW, 300 WBY, 30-378 WBY, 30 Nosler, 300 RUM. This will show their maximum potential. Compare the CX, Nosler E-tip, Hammer Bullets, GS Custom, Barnes TTSX or LRX or both, and Cutting Edge bullets to name a few. You could a video of each bullet and then a final showdown video at the end. It would be very interesting to see what bullets have the best velocities, accuracy, penetration, and wound channel. But one thing no one is doing that I think should be done is a piece of thick leather in front of the gel block and at the joint between the 2nd and 3rd gel block to simulate a hide on an animal as big as an Elk. Maybe even between the 1st and second block. You will have the shooting/hunting crowd watching and talking like crazy. Great job you guys do!!!

[@terryslaton5582]

No ammo available...

[@craigsanders6925]

@@terryslaton5582 reloads

[@ilndboy7]

Excellent. I shoot an old but accurate, Browning A-Bolt 7MM Rem Mag. Have not reloaded or used copper only bullets. Thanks Gavin!

[@nickb8618]

My Abolt 7mm wsm is the most accurate rifle I’ve ever shot and that includes customs. With nosler ballistic tip or eldx she will put a 3 Shot group through the same hole at 100 yrds. Abolts shoot a little better than the newer x bolts

[@DaveSigmon]

I just picked up a box of Superformance CX in 270 Win. I have not shot it yet, but I will be using my 22" Franchi Momentum to hunt whitetails in Missouri. Thanks for the gel test, it gives me confidence in the terminal performance.

[@Joe-lk6oc]

Excellent video and it appears that the Hornady 7mm 150 CX bullets are winners.

[@guyminer2384]

I think so too. Am trying to work up the most accurate load I can, and take it to both Africa and the Pacific Northwest for hunting this year.

[@Randy_Savage_ohyeah]

Just picked up a couple boxes to try in my newer Christiansen Arms Ridgeline 7mm. Shot Winchester Expedition 168gr LRs last year in it but was not super impressed with accuracy....not bad but not what I wanted. Have shot Barnes 160 TSX's out of my Remington 700 7mm with great success on Elk in the past so am not hesitant about shooting this bullet as long as accuracy is there. Having a hell of time finding other quality 7mm ammo to test at this time.

[@markyoung7470]

Would like to see a comparison between the CX and the Barnes LRX or TTSX in .224 77 grain at 200 yards.👍 Would this be a good or great load for Whitetail Deer?

[@michaelantonio1367]

Thanks so much guy's! Great Video!

[@Ben-ry1py]

I love these gel tests, you guys do it right!

[@asafry2873]

Thanks for making the effort to test.

[@MrMillez]

Great video. Good choice of calibre to test.

[@bartb21]

it would be cool to see the 150 30 Cal bullet shot at a similar speed into gel. Also a video with all the 30 cal bullets being compared, all in the CX of course. Great video!

[@averageguyreviews311]

Been a viewer for so many years now , talking when you had sub 10k subscribers . Always appreciate all you videos especially testing powders and loads ( the smith n wesson 500 special was extremely helpful ) . I can't now and never will be able to support any products Hornaday will every come out with again . I started with Hornaday components and reloading equipment but after last year's discovery how they were going to fire employees, regardless their length of employment at Hornaday, because they didn't get the shot had me sell off all my Hornaday products . Then they lied about it and tried to cover it up while trying to go after the employees who leaked the documents . That's not a company that stands for freedoms and the American way and I can never give them a dime in support again .

[@Eric--zs6um]

You fellas doing a fine job every time. 25-06 CX test be 😎!

[@leeturner3143]

I have gone to Hornady Outfitter GMX with very good results on whitetails. Hornady has a great recipe for the 6.5Creedmoor with the 120gr GMX at all MV of 2925FPS. These bullets need velocity to perform as advertised. So why does Hornady load the 308 with 165gr GMX with a MV of only 2610? My low tech tests indicate these bullets need 2200FPS minimum for descent expansion. This makes the 308 Outfitter a 200 yard round. Still works for me but certainly not taking full advantage of 308 potential. 130s or 150s would be better than the 165s in 308. Of course handloading solves this issue.

[@jerrypeters9679]

Looking to get some for my 6.5 300 weatherby magnum 130 grn been on back order but can't wait to reload some for Mule Deer in western Kansas

[@bartb21]

Also I would like to see some accuracy videos with it.

[@philippiscatella7816]

NYS is on the verge of requiring lead free bullets on all its public land. I use both a 30-06 and a 7x57 Mauser for my deer hunting. I will look to a 150 - 165 gr bullet for the 06 and a 140 gr bullet for the 7mm. Currently these bullets are not available on any of the web sites I usually purchase bullets from. Even though this proposed new law if passed will not go into effect until the 2023 season under the current supply chain issues my guess these bullets will be hard to find for a longe time to come. My current load for the 06 is 165 gr Hornady spire point with 54 grs of IMR 4350 Remington cases and WLR primer. This load shoots fine in my Remington 760 pump action rifle. I only hunt NYS public land. Thanks for this most informative video.

[@SurmaSampo]

Monolithic copper bullets have a weight retention of about 95%+ so you don't need the same weight to achieve the same penetration as a lead bullet. Your rifle is unlikely to have enough riffling twist to stabalise these extra long copper bullet either. Pick a monolithic bullet that is about 80% the weight of your lead ones and you have the same or higher retained weight for penetration plus gain extra muzzle velocity.

[@bmghunter5966]

Would have liked to see an accuracy test.

[@guyminer2384]

That's coming...

[@tikkamarksman]

I'm also very interested in this! I have tested the GMX in 308win and not get under 2" att 100m 😵 I have also red that many get the same bad accuracy from the GMX , hoping that the CX is cured from that 🙏🎯

[@Randy_Savage_ohyeah]

It may give you a warm fuzzy or maybe the opposite but it's kinda pointless as every gun is different in what it shoots best. I may get horrible accuracy with these out of my rifle while you may get outstanding accuracy.....won't know until you test them yourself.

[@gc641]

Awesome….. can you guys do one simulating a 300-400 yards shot? I load mines in 280ai and will use that for my elk and mule deer hunt. I shoot no further than 350yard when hunting.

[@franksanchietti7108]

150 gr. Scirocco as well as 150 gr. Hornady copper for elk!

[@seriousfaith]

I'm just starting to work with these in a 300WM.

[@guyminer2384]

Hornady makes a serious 190 grain CX 30 caliber bullet that we intend to try in both the 300 PRC and the 30-06...

[@working_to_hunt]

I wish you would compare the profile compared to others in the caliber since mono mental bullet bc don’t compare to lead. Also, sectioning these bullets and comparing them to Barnes and Federal copper bullets, etc would be low cost and very good!

[@lukeclement1981]

The 160 CX looks great coming from a 7PRC 🔥 Guaranteed exit on large game

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Very well done gentlemen. Fine old Ruger. I really like the 7mm RemMag. I haven't gone the copper route yet. I may try it some day. Not in a hurry. Thank you.

[@guyminer2384]

Thank you. I have two Ruger Number One single shot rifles and enjoy hunting with them.

[@jamesahoffman]

Have shot the previous GMX in 30 cal in a k31 and a Cetme c/ c308. And it worked okay in the 1-10 trist barrel, but the k31 shot better with the nosler E-tip, it would be interesting to see how the new Hornady CX stacks up against the Nosler E-tip.

[@timsmith5837]

Hope you can do some at velocities at the 600-700 yard mark. Great job

[@guyminer2384]

Yes, me too. At 600 yards this bullet is at 2078 fps according to 4DOF. I'm looking for a way that I can replicate that in ballistics gel. No, I can't reliably hit a gel block at 600 yards. I'm "only" a High Master NRA long-range shooter. Sigh.. ;)

[@xphunter24]

@@guyminer2384 , I imagine you could hit a gel block at 600. On a good day in terms of conditions, set up a piece of steel just off to the right or left, and get your conditions dialed in, then put one into the gel in the name of "Science!"

[@wayne-oo]

Great info , I’d like to see an accuracy test on removable scope mounts on this caliber !

[@guyminer2384]

Interestingly I swap the scope on and off this rifle, and my 375 H&H Ruger Number One. I hunt with them scoped, but I like to shoot them sometimes with the factory sights. I've found that if I'm careful, I can remove and replace the scope with little or no loss of zero. This pleases me greatly.

[@wayne-oo]

@@guyminer2384 I also like the open sights on my 300 wby , so I have purchased a set of Leopoldo quick disconnects and have found less than an inch point of impact shift change with it suppressed and virtually no shift with just a break ! With a 4x12 mark 4 scope…

[@G19Jeeper]

While they aren’t EAW mounts, I’ve found Ruger mounts especially on my African 9.3x62 to be pretty repeatable when torqued correctly.

[@guyminer2384]

@@G19Jeeper - ohhhh, a 9.3x62 African... Sweet! :)

[@SDMacMan]

Check out the Target Suite channel. He sets his gel blocks on top of foam sponge to absorb the expansion wave to keep them from bouncing off the table. Genius.

[@tomphillips2608]

Just my luck. Ordered 200 Nosler E tips, 140 grain for my 7 rem mag. The Sherriff says I've exceeded my allotment for a couple months. (The E tips are around .5 moa with Vihtavuori N 165 and Cci 250 primers in Nosler cases, at 3.285 coal).

[@silveraxe1988]

Question for gavintoobe, what are your thoughts on dropping bullet weight to increase speed and lower chamber pressures say in older rifles. I know the bearing surface of copper is generally more than cup and core lead and is the leading cause of higher pressures. I've been playing with 130 grain Barnes ttsx in a 1960's savage 99 in 308 Winchester current load I've tested averages 2825fps out the muzzle which I'm happy with no pressure signs but won't push the envelope much higher. The other rifle is a 99 in 300 savage 110 grain Barnes pushing 2600 out the muzzle looking to increase that a bit to at least 2700 maybe 2800 if I can. By the way I'm hunting in California for deer and occasionally a hog or two. 👍

[@guyminer2384]

Barnes makes a GREAT hunting bullet! I think you're on the right track with that 130 grain TTSX in the 308. I've worked with that very combo with excellent results, but so far haven't taken any big game with it. I have a lot of confidence in the Barnes bullet. used them with my 25-06 to take a few mule deer. Also finished off a grizzly with a 338 Win Mag & 225 grain Barnes TSX bullet. With the solid copper or copper/zinc bullets, I believe velocity is your friend.

[@silveraxe1988]

@@guyminer2384 thanks it's been a nerve racking process as I want to keep my old 99's in the woods doing what they were made for. 👍

[@guyminer2384]

@@silveraxe1988 - yes - I've got some older rifles I treat with care. Love to use them though. I think you're good to go with those Barnes 130 TTSX's and a reasonable powder charge. No need to take it to the max.

[@BC_Hunter]

Going Moose hunting near Alaska soon and this is the ammunition I chose for my 7 mag.

[@michaeldunn150]

i have some of Hornady A-max 168gr 308. I haven't reload them yet. I just had Lee Precision custom made me a seating stem for them.

[@chriskola3822]

16:50 It isn't "bouncing off" anything. It is just the elastic nature of the gel. The bullet is basically dragging/pshing it forward without penetrating it and then when it runs out of kinetic energy, the gel relaxes back to its un-stretched position. Great vid. I've used GMX bullets out of a .308 win for a few years ago with excellent results. Glad Hornady is keeping the franchise alive.

[@michaelvangundy226]

I want a Teflon coated Uranium solid. Pre cut to open up razor sharp petals. And pre micro rifled to reduce drag in the bore. A plastic cup on the base to seal the gasses in that discards after the muzzle. I'll load it in a Lapua 338 with a sabot to 6.5 mm. The ultimate explosive round. Last is a blue dye infused into the alloy so fragments can be easily seen when cutting up the meat.

[@SurmaSampo]

Uranium is orders of magnitude more poisonous than lead (ingesting even a very tiny amount can kill you). It is also an extremity hard metal to the point where it won't deform even hitting steel plate at high velocities. This is the stupidest idea I have read in a long time.

[@michaelvangundy226]

@@SurmaSampo Thanks Sumo! It was meant to be over the top complex. In jest. Glad you saw it for what it was.

[@SurmaSampo]

@@michaelvangundy226 Interestingly enough uranium rounds have been tested and they catch fire when they pentrate steel. Armour piercing, radioactive, carcinogenic, toxic and on fire!

[@Blair338RUM]

Guys A close up of the recovered mushroomed bullets would have been helpful.

[@guyminer2384]

Like the one in the written article? :) There's an article accompanying every one of our videos, often with more detail than we can squeeze into a video.

[@TheRatL0rd]

great video, hard to find good 7mm media. speaking of which id love to see you do modern loadings for 7x57, all of the data i can find is people loading for old Mauser rifles.

[@capt.martin5169]

I have a mid 1980's Rem 700 ADL that I believe is a 1:9.25 twist? I see that the new Rem 700's are a 1:8 twist and suspect that this is due to the new attraction to longer, higher BC bullets? If so I wonder if the newer 700's have a deepeer throat to accomodate these longer bullets? It looked like the larger and longer CX in the 160 Gr. requires a 1:8 twist so older rifles or rifles with slower 1:9 or higher will have to stay at the 150 Grain or lower? I also have seen several things stating that these harder, copper bullets need to have a longer jump, possible set off 50 thou. as not to spike pressure if loaded to close to the lands? Interesting bullet but still have a lot of questions for safe loading of these bullets. I would like to see more detailed reloading info on these bullets including safety margins. OK, Love the channel! Thanks!

[@jensgaus781]

I would like to see an accuracy test with the CX, because the GMX often didn't perform as it should.

[@paulhomsy2751]

I found the GMX superbly accurate in the Superformance line of ammunition as well as getting the exact speed marked on the boxes. I reloaded a batch and shot a very poor group. 2 inches...at 100 yds. I tried different combinations and was able to shrink the groups to about 1.25-1.50....Not great. The Superformance line of ammunition with the GMX gave me groups of 1/4 inch which I never had with off the shelf ammo in the past and very rarely with my own handloads and at the speed advertised on the box to boot and this was for groups of three shots chronographed with a standard deviation of no more than 4 feet per second !! This is for a 300 Win Mag and the 165 grains GMX. Long story short, the results were phenomenal out of the box, off the shelf...but not with my handloads.

[@kearneydillon4803]

I dont understand why ballistics testers dont put a clean tarp under the tables so if a block bounces off the table, its not embedded with dirt and grass...

[@cwade6944]

I walk the logging roads with mine, 35 yard shots very common

[@franksanchietti7108]

Good job

[@philippedomon5178]

On January 2023 , my good friend and me ,make a roedeer hunting on south France , my friand, 85 old, shoot a roedeer with the cx 120 grains , range 150 meters, and he 's down in his track , the french caliber is 6.5x63 Mesmer mag , I reloade myself this caliber, I own one too. Today I reload the CX on 300 winchester magnum, 270 winchester, 243 winchester too. Have a good day . We are french .

[@userJohnSmith]

Seeing how these do at lower velocities would be very interesting. Honestly, switching to copper wigs me out a bit at longer ranges.

[@JimWooddell]

Your concerns are valid. They, like others, do not perform well under ~2000 ft/s.

[@waynemensen4252]

How far away have you shot an animal?

[@leeturner3143]

Yes, these are not long range rounds despite the high BC marketing hype. They don't expand much below 2200fps impact velocity. Higher is better. Ballistics tables inform easily. Great terminal performance at reasonable ranges and very accurate in the calibers I have tried.

[@userJohnSmith]

@@waynemensen4252 Been a bow hunter most of my life but I'm switching to, or more probably adding more rifle. Longest shot at this point was 260 at pronghorn but I've been in reasonable 400yd situations, and unreasonable 700 yard situations. A little tough with a bow.

[@guyminer2384]

If I was looking for a longish range mule deer & antelope bullet and wanted to stick with Hornady, I'd take a hard look at their 150 grain ELD-X. We ran that up over 3200 fps in the same rifle last year. It shoots accurately, has a high BC, and expands more quickly than what we saw from this CX bullet.

[@charliekorabek3846]

This is basically a copy of a Barnes TTSX bullet which I have been using for years. Copper bullets are very good

[@marvinbrock960]

It’s also giving you an interesting comparison between a 7/08 and 7mm Remington Magnum…. As to whether you need the magnum or not?? Obviously in how it applies to your region and game intended.. I’ve always leaned towards the old idea that magnums push heavier projectiles than standard calibers can usually handle. Like the 175 in a 7RM vs the 7/08 and 150… just rambling.. I love these talks… ❤

[@larrycisneros929]

Gavin… I have been shooting monoliths in “conventional” rifles for some time with great results. Shorten up ranges to keep the bullets expanding, sometimes reducing loads to keep pressures low. (Yeah, I hunt in California) So, shooting monoliths with some of the “new” high performance cartages that are designed for heavier bullets with higher barrel twist rates? (300PRC, 6.8 Westerner for instance) a Barns 190gr LRX has a very different profile than say a 190gr Berger LRX cup and core bullet. Internal ballistics have to be very different. Gilding surface vs higher barrel twist rate…. External ballistics too… high rate of spin on a lighter bullet with similar bullet profile as a cup and core bullet. Visit this puzzle, think about it. I would love to hear what you have to say about it. I’m betting bullet construction won’t gain us much, longer ranges won’t provide enough energy to open bullets. Might be super accurate. A 30 caliber hole through an animal is only misery for you and the animal you just shot.

[@StevenMMan]

Currently I'm going to test multiple bullets in a odd platform. A single shot nef in 30-30 Ackley improved. Bullets so far obtain in the 150 gr weight are nosler accubond, hornady GMX, barnes TTSX, Hammer power hammer, and the hornady CX. I 165 gr weight hornady SST, and hornady Amax. 140 gr weight hornady Monoflex. Film will be coming Mountain man

[@pauldietrich3172]

Have shot deer, antelope and pig with my Tika t3x in 7mm-08, from 125 to 230 yards. Whether 120 gr Barnes TTSX at 3000 fp or Hornady superformance 139 gr GMX or CX bullets at 2900+ fps, all animals were hit lethally and no bullets were recovered. Why eat lead?

[@reese8752]

Hey Gavin, would you consider making a video on reloading used brass. Specifically those defects in the used brass that indicates that brass should be culled?

[@guyminer2384]

That's a pretty good idea! Thank you. I know that my 45 ACP and 38 Special brass lasts about forever, but I often discard bottleneck rifle brass (particularly magnums) after only a few fire & reload cycles... Hmmm, food for thought. Thanks.

[@reese8752]

@@guyminer2384 I deprimed and cleaned about 3000 9mm cases last weekend. I inspected every case. Granted, I did this as a noob. I sorted all these cases by head stamp. When resizing, I found some that fought back. I found “WIN” casings fought back the hardest. Had a few I had to drive out of my resizing die. I found some that had Glock bulge”. My indoor range is nice in that the sweep my brass into a pile for me to collect. Often they sweep up others for me to collect as well. I shoot 9mm… I seem to have a lot of 380, 40 and 45 cases as well :)

[@jimbeckley872]

Sounds like an idea. Maybe run some loads over a crono with loose primer pockets and see how much velocity is lost.

[@lylewalters909]

please show how these bullets DONT work at slower speeds. shoot one at 1800fps and 1600fps so those of us with no experience with these new bullets have a way better un derstanding when Guy says " they don't expand at slower speeds". Ok so show how slow is too slow and how the channel looks like in slow motion. That will make a great video. Looking forward to your next great video. thanks for the great information.

[@yukon4545]

Good bullet. At the 9 minute mark, you were making a point about the difference between cup and core and solid bullets. I think you may have misspoke and indicated that cup and core were longer, etc., giving the impression that they were ones to reduce the charge with.

[@codygorman691]

When is Hornady (or anyone) going to amend loading info for the ECX/CX lines? Can't find anything!

[@daviddiffenderfer6963]

Gavin I haven't bin watching long but can a 7mm Ackley shoot 7mm rem mag to fire form or not .

[@terrymcclendon8715]

No totally different cartridge

[@jmayak01]

Would you do a comparison of the Barnes LRX and Barnes TTSX out of a 7mm PRC or 7mm Mag? I suspect that the LRX is more likely to come apart than the TTSX at 3000+ FPS, but I'm not sure. What is better at holding together at super high speeds?

[@kenbyker6696]

What alternatives would you recommend,considering that IMR Enderon powders have been discontinued,since Covid messed everything up?

[@sn1per194]

I just finished loading up a run of 127 LRX and 130 CX with both IMR7828 and VV N565 in Norma brass, Federal 210M @ 2.955 CX/2.865TTSX. SAVAGE 110 High Country 22" Muleys on down to pronghorn (someday!) It's not a UR quality rifle 😅 it's a banquet win, and it's a very nice shooting rifle for a guys first ever Savage. Im a 500m and in hunter depending on game size and conditions, I'm expecting good things with both bullets. Economy of components will then take over as winner I guess. 😢

[@jerryhall1541]

What was the accuracy like?

[@guyminer2384]

Average for my rifle, the Ruger Number One. At 100 yards I could count on three shot groups of 1" or so, sometimes a bit over, sometimes under. I've got a limited supply of these things and am using them for hunting this year. Hope to have a post-hunt report later.

[@koryrude3891]

Love me the ruger number 1. Awesome looking rifle. I have one as well as love it. I see you loaded 3.340” oacl. Is this where it seemed to be most accurate? Did you ever play around with H1000 in your testing at all?

[@Jeffsanythingoutdoors]

I use 143 eldx in my 6.5cm I've been very happy with them however I love the idea of the all copper my biggest reason is you don't have to shoot as heavy of a bullet with all copper . I have few hunting spots I shoot out to as fare as 1200yards I of course limited my self with the 6 5 to 600 on deer 400 on bear . I built a 7mm remington magnum for the 400 to 1000 yards I loaded up 180gr Berger vld I hadn't got to the range yet to do my OCD test I just got my magneto speed so soon as this snow melts I'll be headed to the range . I like watching your shows there's always great info. And I did have a ?? What would you guys say would be a good bear load for the 7mag out to say 1000 yards . I had a bear this year at 1176yards with a 12mph cross wind and passed on tyne shot of course but this happens to me almost every season so I'm trying to be set up for the new season so I built this 7mag I wanted to do the 7prc but seems like the search for brass n powder just seemed better to go with the 7mag and its a great choice for that long range efficiency

[@BackwoodsBoy394]

If you listen to Hornady, they say not to use clear ballistic gel as it does not behave the same as the yellow gel due to moisture composition.... clear gel is synthetic.

[@MartyRen-j7t]

Please test against Barnes and axe bullets as well as other copper bullets and compare ballistically as well

[@chethaynes5802]

As Usual, Very Interesting. Thank You Very Much.

[@33NATAS]

With the GMX/CX do I have to back the bullet off 0.05" when seating the bullet?

[@lagoonrd4173]

All my experience is with Barnes bullets. Early 2000 when I switched to copper bullets because of lead, I’ve seen heart shots and lead ending up in hind quarters, there’s a article I can’t remember X-rayed game after. I’d love to try this cx, accuracy is going to be make or break. For some reason I can’t hornady bullets to group for me

[@chadhaupt472]

Need to test the 160gr cx out of 7mm prc

[@andrewgraham9977]

I just wish I could find some old fashioned 7mm bullets in the 140 grain range for my 708; they just work. Seem to be very scarce but one of these days maybe.

[@wasachevyguy]

I use the 120 gr TTSX in my 7-08. Devastating little round. Took a moose with it last season.

[@larrysayre824]

I have been using in my 270 two different 130gr Hornaday bullets in one I use the GMX, I did this loading for my nephew and he said never has to track the deer. The second bullet would be the SST bullet my rifle gives me the type of groups that people wish for, I could not believe the amount of energy dump I witnessed the first time I shot a deer with the SST bullet. I would like a recommendation for a .308 loading for my niece, I am trying to keep recoil down and not hurt her shoulder. I am new to this and not sure if a 110gr bullet would be to light, trying to get young girl to go with her father and they always fear that recoil. I would like to get her to try the .308 if it is to much my fall back will be a. 243 I am trying to get that fear factor to go away. Thanks for your help

[@KC-7mm]

Cx seams like a pretty good bullet but I’m a big fan of the cutting edge mth line of bullets I shoot them in my 7rem mag and have had great success with them over the past 4 years. A comparison of these two would be interesting.

[@beenschmokin]

Well, they've been around since the 80s so...

[@KC-7mm]

@@beenschmokin what point exactly are you trying to get across?

[@beenschmokin]

@@KC-7mm Solid copper bullets have existed since the 80s. "Cutting edge" in the 80s. Welcome to 2023

[@KC-7mm]

@@beenschmokin I’m aware of how long copper bullets have been around for. It wasn’t tell I was forced to use them that started too. Also cutting edge didn’t start until 2001

[@EAZY-ME]

Try the 6mm CX bullets in a 243 win or a 6 creedmore, 6 GT something like that next. Let's start a discussion? I will keep dropping comments.

[@EAZY-ME]

.243 copper ammunition anyone?

[@russdennis7026]

Thanks for sharing guys. Can't wait to give the CX a go out of my Xbolt. If I can get them???

[@TheDkb427]

So are they making this for 300 blackout or is the gmx pretty much the same thing? So many bullets!!

[@SigmaBallistics]

Would have rathered see the low velocity impact at 2,000 fps (worst case scenario for expansion) instead of the the 2,800, but amazing video and content nonetheless. Keep em coming, looking forward to the next (:

[@guyminer2384]

Thanks. Ya, I want to try these down at 2,200 or even 2,000 fps. I don't think that they're going to open very wide at such low velocity.

[@WayStedYou]

@@guyminer2384 I think you should go with 2200 since they will probably drop below the 2000 by the time you hit the gel block