Running 705s on my V-strom 650 now, had 804/805s previously. I think Kyle reflects accurately the capabilities and feel of both tire sets. The 804/805s hold better offroad with great acceleration traction though the back will slip a bit side to side when pushed hard. The 705s feel smooth on paved, a bit ass-happy and loose on gravel. The rear slide is easily controlled with throttle modulation, the 705 front keeps me wide awake off pavement, though it gets the job done. I don't know which I'll buy next, maybe a blend of 805 rear and keep running my 705 front. I have bought lots of tires from Chapparal and always had quick shipping, great service and the best prices I could find. Thank you for the honest reviews dirt naps and all, they really are helpful.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Ha! Todd! LOL, "705 front keeps me wide awake off pavement" for sure!!! Downhill descents where a little brake would be appreciated is not welcomed by the 705 front, that I found out multiple times. Ouch... I was SO TIRED of falling over (and am still sore) when rolling the Kenda Paver tires. I will never run those on a personal bike... unless it was the Last / ONLY tire available. Whew... that was a rough day in the dirt for sure. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYCbhGZ3eKytfbc Thank you for watching and for your support. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@FightBofA8 ай бұрын
Use the back and skid.....no reason for front brake off road
@k0d0kan2 жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but thank you for the review. I was looking for this EXACT tire. Now I have found it. Thanks!
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Great. Glad you enjoyed it.
@TornadoCAN994 жыл бұрын
I had a set of these on my 2013 Triumph Bonneville....but only got about 2k KM's out of them. Was quite happy with the 705's before they both went completely flat when a cop pulled a spike stripe out in front of my while going 100 KPH (within speed limit). Cop was trying to get an armed robber in a car coming opposite direction and got me as a bonus! Bike didn't lose stability as I glided to a halt...both were dead flat once I stepped off. Had a set of Bridgestone TrailWings put on as I was 8 hrs from home and the only place open at that time just had these. Didn't like them nearly as much...lots of road noise and vibration from the front end. Two seasons later, I went back to Shinko 705's and put 10,000 KM on them in 20 days doing Vancouver to Ottawa Canada and back. Was moto-camping on the Bonneville and did a reasonable bit of dirt road riding to/from camp sites most days. Very happy with the Shinko 705's again, and they did great at highway speeds hours on end and even several days of heavy rain on the highways. Never felt them slipping. Not being a skilled off-road rider, I'd guess the extra advantage from full knobbies is when in wet dirt/mud....better tread clearance than the Shinko 705 pattern would allow. Final point I didn't here you bring up the 705's are cheap as chips...I can put a set on my Bonneville for under $230 CDN...about 1/3 the price of the Bridgestome Trailwings and other brands.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Holy Cow! A spike strip on a motorcycle... No Thank You! Thank you for sharing your experiences. The 705 tires are a really great tire at a great value. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@TornadoCAN994 жыл бұрын
@@rkjsll See this thread over on the Triumph RAT forum: www.triumphrat.net/threads/my-shinko-705-tires.954150/
@SimonBrisbane2 жыл бұрын
Tornado that’s an amazing story. I’m glad you were not injured! Did the police assist you in getting the tyres replaced?
@TornadoCAN992 жыл бұрын
@@SimonBrisbane Yes they arranged for a hauler to get bike to local bike shop and said they would cover costs for replacements. I also requested overnight stay at a motel as I was unable to continue my trip until next day. It took them about 6 months to finally send me the cheque, but that's just their procedure.
@P1ayD0hpaul2 жыл бұрын
@@TornadoCAN99 Bro, get a lawyer. They could have killed you ffs. They owe you a hell of a lot more than tires and a room.
@zman926304 жыл бұрын
705's are some of the best value tires on the market, and handle most terrain types. They have great longevity and are such a good value, as well as road manners and hooking up. I've had plenty of these on my Adv bikes. Great vid!
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I totally agree. For the value / function, they are a smoking deal. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@brastdoor12312 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris, Should you advice these tires for a bmw 310 gs (169 kg or373 lbs)? Are you content with the performance on road? Mostly I am riding on road ( 50 miles every day), but for fun I go off-road. I have now 85/15 road/off-road Metzeler Tourance on the bike. Mud and deep sand are a problem. I rode 13.000 miles with my set now and I want to replace them. Sorry for my poor English. Greetings from the Netherlands, Frank
@paulbo78353 жыл бұрын
I'm on my 2nd set of 705 tires and I absolutely love them on my DR65. Talking with a GS1200 group traveling from Washington to Corado with half the trip being offroad, they really made me want to try the tire and I'm glad I did. I do Moab, forest riding, Arizona and Utah high speed desert running, these have been my favorite tires to run out of 5 different sets of tires I've used. And they hug corners just like my sport bike running the Michelin Pilot....foot dragging around some corners and didn't realize I was that low to the ground until my foot rubbed the pavement. Rain performance.... never had an issue feeling like I'm breaking traction. This tire for me has been incredible for me and my riding I do. Only you can determine what tire is good for your riding style. My next tire.... im intrigued by the Dunlop Trail max Mission. I like what I read and feel I will have the Dunlop on my bike next and see how I like them.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome Paul. Happy to hear the tires have given you so much confidence. They are pretty good tires. we really liked the Trailmax Mission tires, they took top honors in our 50/50 ADV tire shoot out. if you haven't already, check it out here: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
@theone10082 жыл бұрын
Just ordered these for my DRZ supper motto. Was recommended from a firefighter that took his dual sport up the fire trails to fight fires here in California he said these were the best dual sport tiers he’s tried for road and dirt.
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Hope you like them.
@got_to_roll4 жыл бұрын
I'm now running what I'm calling the "Shinko Adventure Mullet", 804 front, 705 rear on my V-strom650. It is NOT great for sand, but really good for paved and gravel. Controllable power slides on FS roads, great turn and front brake capability. Good setup for the PNW where I live.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Hi Todd, sounds like a great combo for your area. And we love the name hahahaha. Thanks for watching.
@chriskneifl32904 жыл бұрын
I live in Oregon and am thinking of running the same combo in my V-Strom 650. An 804 on the front seems like a no brainer; I'm just trying to decide between an 805 or 705 for the rear. 705 seems like it would be better on pavement, where I do most of my riding, and it seems like it would wear slower than an 805 rear also.
@SpacesTulum3 жыл бұрын
@@chriskneifl3290 after much adv tyre research decided to puta shinko 705 on rear of-my bmw g650gs and leave on front my used pirrelli scorpion rally str... the pirelis are great i did like 1 month adv riding across 15 states in mexico including Baja and 11 000km the rear tyre is dead great ones only fel 3 times downhill offroad on rocks but gave me very little longevity its too expensive like 300 dlls rear tyre so decided to try the shinko back tyre also i do 80% road and20%offroad soshinko is the solution.... the metzeler new tourrance had them they were great on road and did like 20 000 km
@DANTHETUBEMAN Жыл бұрын
that's why I'm going to buy them for gravel pull out, I don't like slipping all over to pull off to the side. I like your idea to mix and get what you want.
@jphaxx5 жыл бұрын
this whole series is amazing
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jeremy!
@thepab30724 жыл бұрын
So it's perfect for my needs, I do sometimes some gravel and lite off road but most of the time on road travel.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for watching.
@murlyn22 жыл бұрын
I run these tires on my DRZ400s. I commute with it, ride gravel roads and a few easy trails. I’m impressed with these tires. I can go down backroads and in town aggressively with complete confidence at higher lean angles.
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@markbock30274 жыл бұрын
Good video. I’ve been running 705s and their Full Bore M40 variants for over a decade now on a V-Strom 650, Tiger 800 XC, Africa Twin, KTM 1090 ADV R, Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE, and now a Tiger 900 Rally Pro (I’ve still got the three Triumphs, and all three are wearing 705s). I keep buying them because they’re the best all-around tires I’ve ever tried. They’re capable of peg-scraping lean angles on the street, and they’re way better in the dirt than they look like they should be (except thick mud, of course). Excellent gravel road tire. And the price... just can’t justify spending $300 on a set of Motoz or something when I can get the Shinkos for half that.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, thanks for watching and providing your experience with the Shinkos. They really are great tires--especially for the money. Thanks again. Ride safe.
@dcryder97362 жыл бұрын
Awesome content! The best tire videos I've seen. Your testing methodology is great and I love the riding tips you throw in a long the way 👍
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@stevenlefebvre29914 жыл бұрын
I have these on my XR 650 L and I love them. I have riden in a monsoon and the bike went straight as an arrow. The bike is also great in the twisties.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and thanks for watching!
@stevenlefebvre29914 жыл бұрын
Tim Allen Hi Tim this is not a good mud tire or deep sand Tire. if that is what you are looking for. But it does everything else pretty darn good. And it has pretty good wear life. When I use a tire with more of a Knobby I get less than a third of the life. And the road manners are horrible. I like using the bike like a super Motard and you can do that with this tire.
@mattfarrar85663 жыл бұрын
I have a set of 705s on my dr650. They work great!
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. They are great tires.
@HOOSIERDADDY3855 жыл бұрын
I like the 705. They work everywhere for me but soft sand. I don't ride much of that so it could just be me. Thanks for the video.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
For sure! The 705 is a great tire. I did take a little effort to ride in the sand... but it did work. It was steep dowhill off-road descents where I looked for a "knob" to slow me down... that did not exist with this tire... and often washed out. Not a fan of that situation. Other than that, I really liked this tire. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@inthebush969 ай бұрын
Just got a set for my bonneville based on this review. Thanks!
@chaparralmotorsports9 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@neilmackey96264 жыл бұрын
Great "real world" review...thanks! I ran a couple sets of 705s on my '13 WeeStrom...liked them enough that I purchased a set when I upgraded to a '15 R1200GS LC this spring. Granted the GS is a heavier bike but I don't anticipate any issues. Can't beat the price... affordable doesn't have to mean cheap! Did a 3000+ mile BC/Alberta/AK trip last summer with them on the Wee...little bit of everything. Paved twisties, fresh pavement to that lovely granite-surfaced stuff that is common in BC, mild/moderate dirt, rain. We rode 4 hours in a driving rainstorm on Vancouver Island up to Port Hardy...no surprises at all. Durability overall was pretty good...8k rear, probably 2:1 front/rear. Drawbacks? Not that great in the mud and deep fluff...watch the tar snacks on really hot days, as you'll get the occasional minor wiggling. They'll take some getting used to, especially if you're coming off something with a more aggressive side tread. With that more "rounded" aspect, the bike will tip into corners quickly. Got used to that pretty quickly during the scrub in ride. Slight tread whine at higher speeds from the front but certainly better than the HOWL I was getting from the front Anakee Wild they replaced...
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Hi Neil, thanks for the insight on your experience with the Shinkos, very informative. They really are great tires, you get a lot of bang for the buck with the 705s. The 705s ended up taking the top spot in the overall results of our 80/20 ADV tire shootout. If you haven't seen result video check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZvXmH-wZrGdpKc Thanks for watching. Ride safe.
@aulderyan4 жыл бұрын
very thorough test, thanks. I already bought these for my Honda NC700x but haven't put them on yet. But you confirmed that I made the right choice for an affordable tire.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
These tires actually blew my mind... They worked really well! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@paulstevenconyngham7880Ай бұрын
Really great test mate - thanks for making this
@chaparralmotorsportsАй бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@wjb1115 жыл бұрын
These might make sense for my CRF250L when it’s time for new rubber.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
If you ride mostly fire roads... Yes this will be a great set of tires for your 250L
@John_Neves Жыл бұрын
Had a pair on my V-Strom 1000. Quite good in the dry. Crap on metal bridges, not fantastic in the wet. Not bad in the twisties, but they won't lean as much as a pair of scorpion trails for example. They wobble over 200km/h. Off road. Well. They are not nobbies, but better than dedicated road tyres. Tread pattern looks great on the bike. The best I've seen to be honest. I would buy them again if knew i would go off-road then and again. For 95% street riding, the scorpion trails are hard to beat. Cornering grip is insane. That's what i put back on after the 705's.
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Huh, that's interesting. We were quite pleased with the 705s in our ADV tire testing. So much so, that they took the top spot in our 80/20 category. But then again not every tire is going to suit every rider or riding style, so your insight is quite valid. Thanks for sharing. Ride safe.
@David-uu1oj4 ай бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports Hi, great video. I'm really considering these for my 1996 Triumph Trophy and they have my recommended sizes. Yea yea, it's a 478 lb Sport/Tour but I want to turn off the pave and feel some sorts of confidence I'm not ruining my luggage 20 feet in. I'm not a heavy street leaner and I've been asking about these tires for my ride. My street Shinkos are great, but that front tire on gravel roads isn't. Will these work well on my bike & inspire confidence?😂 Thank you
@jumper20795 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great review of the tire and in the middle of it some really good advice on how to handle the dreaded tar snake. Those may be my next tire based on your review.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I was really surprised by the performance of this set of tires. I don't think you will be disappointed. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@kevinhildum91865 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy all the videos you put out I have a dr650 2018 that's in your shop right now that's getting gas in the oil I still have the original Trail wing tires on it and I do a lot of off road I will be looking for something that's quite a bit better very soon as long as my motorcycle gets fixed
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
A lot of off road, I would recommend the Shinko E-804 and E-805 tires for cheapest full dot knobbie. Best longevity for a aggressive dirt tire I would recommend the Motoz tires. Desert HT for most knobby, Adventure for a bit more street performance and the GPS for a good 50/50 tire. Thanks for your support. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@danemoll40653 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the review and like that u get that front wheel up occasionally on the DCT! Getting these now for my 2017 AT. The MotoZ I got for it initially were way too aggressive for the riding I USUALLY do. Thank you.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Good choice! Thanks for watching.
@jeffjones40712 жыл бұрын
I just ordered these for my 2021 vstrom 650xt . Great real world review. Thanks
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rocketrollsvlogs76255 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Video great, tires impressive. But how about that Africa Twin!!!! Wow. Kyle made it look easy. I'd be picking up bikes all day
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
The Africa Twin is a really neat bike. Super stable, robust and surprisingly agile on and off-road. Oh... I do pick it up often too ;) Thanks for watching. - Kyle
@lendirk9024 жыл бұрын
Great review Kyle! I think these Shinkos will be the next tires on my bike.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
I was shocked at how well they did - that was not expected. - Kyle
@farreltucker74662 жыл бұрын
2nd set on my 05 DL1000. Street performance is good but front hates anything loose and weaves on center sometimes. I feel the rear does what it is supposed to do. I tried a Big Block on the front and that made the bike stable on loose surfaces. A lot of cornering was lost though it was a good combo for that trip. ADV and DP tires are always a compromise at best. Maybe a TKC 80 front next for trip with a lot of gravel .These tires corner very well on pavement but dont last that long. They are probably the best bang for the buck. My XR 650L wears TKC 80 front IRC GP1 rear, for real dirt it get dirt rubber. Off road in the West is very different from the East.
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for the great insight. Hopefully you'll find a setup that woks for you. If you haven't already take a look at our ADV wrap up, maybe there's some info in here that will help: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
@samjohnson4664 жыл бұрын
Really good view of the tires in action.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
HI Sam, thanks. It takes many cameras to get all that content but definitely worth it.
@markperrella55462 жыл бұрын
you rocked that test ride! Damn im impressed with your skills As for the 705 i have them on my Vstrom works amazingly well the 804/5 will go on my AT though
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Ride safe and enjoy the tires.
@jimbob75594 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative review. Looks like my tire of choice for my recently purchased 2011 DL 1000. I'm way too old to be throwing a bike the size of DL 1000 around too much at my age (77) but I'm looking forward to exploring some of the thousands of gravel back roads in Canada's Maritime Provinces next spring. Dam! I'll be 78 in May. The last time I was down your way was in 96 on the Three Flags. Had to stop for a new year tire in San Bernadino. We paid our money for the 2020 Three Flags this year but the darned Coronavirus forced the cancellation of the event. Be safe ehh.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
HI Jim, that's great to hear that you are still riding and exploring. Awesome that you were able to visit our store--things have changed a bit since you were last here, you'd be impressed. Yeah bummer that the Corona virus is messing thing up so badly all across the globe.
@UncleWally34 жыл бұрын
Aside from feedback on tires, there’s value added watching these videos - well done! Here’s my question: Is there any advantage (in certain riding situations) to mounting 705’s on the rear and 805’s on the front?
@stiingya4 жыл бұрын
Same question! that's totally what I was thinking of doing... Though I'd guess you'd make it more likely to slide the front on the street with the 805 VS the the usually less injury prone slide on the dirt with the 705...???
@MattSpooner694 жыл бұрын
@@stiingya i use to ride my ktm on the street alot and i would always run a more street oriented tire on the front and more aggressive on the rear tire, my theory being i want the traction on the pavement up front and grip for climbing/mud in the rear, i can deal with the rear sliding around on the pavement and im a lot less worried about the front washing on the dirt.
@motoryzen5 жыл бұрын
17:27 to 17:30. That, good people, is the wrong way to pick up a motorcycle unless you're built like Sylvester Stallone or Arnold in more of their prime. His bike was hunched over some. Even with lifting mostly with legs, that still risked the back more. Pick up from behind and put your ass to the bike and "walk" it up if you're unsure if your strength. If you can squad more than 200 pounds multiple reps without killing your bike, then ..given "feeling out" your foot grip on the ground, you might be able to squat that sucker all the way upright. Don't forget the kickstand though if you lowside to the right. No insult meant Caparral rider, but just stating the facts so someone of equal or weaker strength and body statue doesn't hurt his or her back. Cheers and thanks for vid.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Yes, lifting with your LEGS is the best suggestion / technique. In this case... the bike was at the perfect downhill angle to be lifted easily without strain. Thanks for sharing your input! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@MattSpooner694 жыл бұрын
So Ill call you over the next time i drop my bike?? Let me do my thing and you worry about you..
@gdancoleman4 жыл бұрын
HI Kyle. I'm really becoming a big fan of your videos. Great information! Thank you so much for all you do to bring everyone such valuable information. I looked at the 705 for my Yamaha XT250, but ruled it out wanting something equally good on the road but with better off road performance. I am considering the Shinko 700 and the Mitas E07. Have you done videos on both of those? If not, I would surely appreciate your comments and advice. Thanks, DC!!
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching DC! I am not a fan of the Shinko 700 as it is too "universal" and does not do street nor dirt well. Now the Mitas E07 on the other hand is a pretty fantastic tire. I have ridden it in the past... and will be testing this tire on our "test track" here in the upcoming weeks. Stay tuned! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@hildtonmcconnell56265 жыл бұрын
Any one tried these on a Versys X 300 do mostly road but the dire roads around hear can get pretty bad at times.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Yes, my buddy Adam has them on his X300. He aired them way down as the freeway ride was harsh at manufacture recommended pressures. I want to say 30 or 32 psi front and rear if I remember correctly. He seemed to like them, no complaints... He chased me all over and I was on a BMW R1200GSA. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@sarahdell40423 жыл бұрын
These are excellent videos!
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@John-vr3po2 жыл бұрын
You sound too funny when you’re riding. Very authentic
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Thanks
@weridemotoz55515 жыл бұрын
Running a 804 front and the 705 rear. I am getting more mileage on the 804 than I got on a Mitas E07 Dakar front . Hoping for 10k plus on the 705 rear then will install an 805. I'll do a comparison of the mitas e07, the shinko 705 and the 805 later this year. Will also comment on the k60 scout.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Awesome feedback! WOW, that is some GREAT mileage from a knobby tire! Thank you for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@weridemotoz55515 жыл бұрын
I've routinely got 22k to 25k on a set of k60 scouts. My Miras E07 Dakar front got 15k before getting swapped for a Shinko 804. The 804 was swapped for another 804 after 11k but probably has another 4k on it. The Mitas E07 rear Dakar had 25k on it before swapping to a shinko 705. Probably another 4k on the e07 if I pushed it. Note these are km and I usually run 80 to 90 % hiway over dirt.
@peterrick33395 жыл бұрын
@@weridemotoz5551 I think you need to get your odometer checked. 25K kms, with probably another 4k on the e07 if I pushed it. BS.
@WhiteGravey5 жыл бұрын
@@peterrick3339 yea that doesnt sound right. unless he fucked with his sprockets and the reading is way off.
@frankiemarchese29784 жыл бұрын
These should be great for my yz426f supermoto! Ill be riding mainly twisties, but some fireroads and a bit if sand
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, let us know how you like them.
@calummccreath23452 жыл бұрын
How do all and great review Thankyou 👍 I have recently purchased an 09 Vstrom 1000 which has a 705 on the front and I am putting one on the back. I just want to go up gravel roads for a look, to see what’s there! My question is, what are they really like on wet tar seal? I ride all weathers and love corners. Am I potentially in trouble with these?
@RVAMotorsports Жыл бұрын
Great review, I now have zero buyers remorse for ordering a set for my V Strom 650!
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
@X-7-JAMES2 ай бұрын
Great video. Has any other tire hit the market in the 5 years since you made this video which surpass the Shinko 705? If not, I might go with a pair of Shinkos. Thanks again.
@chaparralmotorsports2 ай бұрын
Hello, Thanks for the compliment. Sorry but we haven't updated our reviews/thoughts on ADV tire setups.
@Partnerthedog2 жыл бұрын
So I got the 705 front tire but the K60 scout rear, so my rear tire is 50 50 seems like that would have helped you in that loose sand alot more. Hopefully the 705 front isn't too slippery offroad I'm usually on hard pack and trails when not on road. 2018 drz400SM on the factory 17 inch gold sumo wheels
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Hello, that sounds like a good setup. This was one test in a series of tests utilizing the same front and rear ADV tires. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@Dingbobber3 жыл бұрын
The Shinko 700’s are great for off-road and aren’t crazy knobby
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@spiffcats9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am going to be doing an 8k road trip on my crf 300l and these look like a good tire. I was thinking of running these on the back and something more knobby on the front. I do a lot of steep mountain trails up here in canada and I need a tire I can trust to go down hill safely, but I also need a tire that can last for the entire road trip. Any suggestions?
@mattzobian2 ай бұрын
Why does he go down a steep sandy hill with his front ABS off? Of course the front will wash out. Not sure what he was testing.
@chaparralmotorsportsАй бұрын
He was testing tires.
@ThisTall5 жыл бұрын
So torn on what tires to try next on my 1090. 90% of my off rd is just gravel road, but these bikes are so big that anything other then the serious knobbie really feels like you might as well run straight street tires. It feels like to much street quality off rd is a way bigger down side then a knobby is on road. At least the front a bit more so then rear on mountain gravel roads. But if you get a good knobby and you have even 1 good long 1-2000km trip planned on street the knobby is 1/2 spent.
@jphaxx5 жыл бұрын
Try the 804 front with a 705 rear... I had that set up on a xt250 and it was awesome. I swear by the 705 front, but if you want something more aggressive, I'd try the 804. At about half the cost of other adv tires, it's worth a shot. I personally will vouch for the 705 front. I had it on my '14 r1200gs for 15k miles and it just started cupping with about 40% tread left. The thing is a tank
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy's response below is really the way to go. This 705 rear tire really did work well in all we gave it to tackle. It was the front tire that we struggled with... and an E804 up front would have totally solved those problems. Give it a shot. Knobby up front and a strong 80/20 in the rear. It works... I have run similar on my R1200GSA the MotoZ GPS in the rear and the ADV tire up front. That combo was dialed too... - Kyle
@darvelbidenisapuppet72755 жыл бұрын
I run this tire, I air it down to about 19 psi front and rear on my DRZ400 . Then quick co2 charge and I'm back on the PCH. I wonder if I do even better with this tire due to my bikes lower weight.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your inquiry Daniel. Yes, the bikes weight helps a lot and the extra 10 psi lower air pressure. As we wanted to run all of the tires in this test at the SAME PSI with out airing up when coming out of the wash... 30 PSI was too high for the deep sand situations. But it was even across the board and some tires did much better down there in the same areas. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@AgricUltra11 ай бұрын
Phenomenal review. Thank you.
@chaparralmotorsports11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@bdeyestwo12233 жыл бұрын
Bought a used nc750 that had the 705's. Last year a Flopping sound developed at the rear. At first I saw nothing wrong, so next day started a ride and same sound so I did a more detailed inspection and one of the lugs had delaminated and at speed it contacted the rear guard. No more shinko's in my future!
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Huh that's interesting, haven't really heard of them delaminating, cutting/tearing/shearing yeah that can happen with any knobby tire, but delaminating is a bit unusual.
@bdeyestwo12233 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports plenty of same experiences at nc700 forums - one guy even called them pos tires after his own experience and will never buy them again.
@ThrillaPark5 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Have you done an 805/805 vid yet? Would love to see..
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Alex. Here is the E804 / E805 test: kzbin.info/www/bejne/roPYmZeZjad9a6s -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@fabianjosemenendez95704 жыл бұрын
hi kyle. here in Argentina they were obtained in the Full Bore M40 brand. they have the same drawing. I do not know if the same compound since the 705 do not arrive here. I have had two back games about 15 thousand kmts each. pavement dirt gravel sand. I have tried everything with satisfaction. Versys 650. loaded with 30kg of luggage and 100kg pilot. Cheers.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fabian, great feedback! Shinko makes some good tires are really good price points. Thanks for watching our video. Ride safe.
@deanshaw21285 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle & Chaparral team, love this series of tyre tests and comparisons you're doing, great information as the tests are very real. Just an idea, but what if you tabulated the results at the end of each of these videos ? Either a tick against the winner for each terrain, or better still a rating for each out of 10, for each terrain or set of conditions. Thanks again, great work.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment Dean. We are putting 21 tires to the test. Most are either 50/50 or 80/20 with a few outlying 60/40 and 70/30 tires. We are looking at tread depth, durometer readings, sidewall ply / make-up / and then the handling characteristics Highway, Twsisties, Back Country Roads, Deep Sand, High Speed Cornering, Gravel Roads, Dirt Roads... I began to rate them to begin with... and then the next tire "shook things up a bit"... so I am tabulating my thoughts and will release them once every tire has been tested. Thanks for watching! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@mhks682 жыл бұрын
9:20 Reminded me of the end of Interstellar. Alright alright alright.
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
hahaha.
@jrbass624 жыл бұрын
I 've had 3 sets of them, In Fl sugar sand on a 1000 V Strom a Handful!!
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Oh really? You really can't beat the price of the Shinkos. Thanks for watching.
@1ronhall5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review ..... now you have me thinking these 705s are better option than the tkc80 for my klr650. Would you care to offer a comment or two re tire selection?
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
These Shinko 705's blew me away. I really was surprised at how well they handled the soft stuff. If you do mostly street and an occasional fire road and don't need Knobbies, then this really is a superior tire to the TKC80 in price and longevity. A win win if you don't use, need or just want the look of a true 50/50 knobby tire. Thanks for watching! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@torrid944 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports hi! What do you mean fire road? Srry noobie here..
@joes6504 жыл бұрын
@@torrid94 the dirt road around the 15 minute mark......but usually gravel.
@hillkiran3 жыл бұрын
I am just watching this because I punctured my Dunlop Trailmax front tire, and The Shinko 705 is all they had. So I’ll be running a Dunlop Trailmax rear and a Shinko 705 front. You guys are awesome. Any comments on the above mix I am running would be appreciated 🙏
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Lot's of people mix their tires. Whatever works best for your riding style. Let us know what you think of that combination.
@caseyf80542 ай бұрын
Question, why is the front tire mounted in the opposite direction of the back tire in the video?
@chaparralmotorsports2 ай бұрын
Hello, the tire is mounted in accordance with the tire direction arrow for the front application- certain 705 tires can be used front and rear but need to be mounted in accordance with the direction arrow on the sidewall based on front or rear application. The front tire is where the majority of the braking force is applied, the rear is acceleration. Tire manufacturers design the tires based on the application, thus the tread on the front is optimized for braking/steering and the tread on rear tires is optimized for traction/acceleration.
@adammacer5 жыл бұрын
Can you really judge wet weather performance from a 20-30 yard section of wet tarmac and a hot sticky tire?
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
I can tell you how it felt... the same section of road I was able to test with three different tires. Only 1 of the tires allowed me to initiate a wheelie half way through without breaking traction. The other two... the rear tire just broke loose and spun. That is pretty good indicator for grip - but not water evacuation. Thanks for watching. - Kyle
@DANTHETUBEMAN Жыл бұрын
I just want a street tire that does not wash out when light gravel is on the road, this looks like good tires to me.
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Yeah we understand, but gravel on the road can be tricky for any tire. Hope you like these of you give them a try.
@yassassin64253 жыл бұрын
I'm torn between these and the Karoo Street for an Indian FTR. Currently I have Conti Road Attack III tyres fitted which is optimum rubber for the bike, (responsive, good feel, grippy and quick steering) but isn't in keeping with the flat track look or conducive to dirt. I don't want to compromise too much pavement grip/lean angle and am dubious of the wider blocks and height of the Shinkos. I suspect that the Metzelers give greater feedback in addition to greater side grip when lead due to a more rounded shoulder, narrower tread pattern. Any advice? I can drag my knee/scratch with the Continentals currently on the bike. Don't want to forego that either. Any advice? Excellent video by the way. I'm in the UK but have a good friend in San Dimas, who has taken me riding on these roads.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Hello, we were really pleased with the Metzeler Karoo Street tires, in fact they took the top spot in the Twisties category of our 80/20 ADV tire shootout and were fairly decent on hard pack dirt. We'd say give them a shot.
@yassassin64253 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports Thank you so much for your prompt reply - pretty much confirming what I suspected and the conclusion I had come to. Once again, great informative video too. Much appreciated.
@mazino71842 жыл бұрын
amazing review
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ralphvalkenhoff28873 жыл бұрын
Wonder if these are a good fit with my naked SV650.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
If they'll fit your motorcycle and you like to do some light off roading, then yeah.
@josephmitchell63403 жыл бұрын
My cb5o0x came with these as it was used. I have crash gaurds but am horrified to drop it again in rocks and possibly damage or scratch it lol. I also crawl in dirt like this and stay in first and second. I even am scared doing 30 mph in gravel mixed pavement roads we have in Pennsylvania here. I hope to gain the skill next season to not fear less traction and ability to corner and overall ride with more confidence. Wonder if my 150 pound 5 foot 5 self is what doesn't help considering I tip toe my baby I am just on the balls of my feet. I feel if taller perhaps more stability and confidence on dabbing and also overall being in the saddle and balance. I tend to regardless how much practice and stops I still lose my balance time to time at a stop and have almost dropped her due to the half second between my foot off the peg to hitting pavement my balance or farther reach to pavement causing my bars to turn or want to turn right. Anyways nice video
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for the insight. You'll become more confident and more familiar with your bike's balancing points and handling characteristics the more you ride. Soon you'll realize your height isn't a factor.
@jimfeldman40353 жыл бұрын
I've got a pair on a DR650. Great on pavement. Decent on loose rock and gravel. The front washes out too easy in deeper mud and sand, not that the rear likes those either, but the rear did better than expected. I wonder if the Shinko 244 front might be a good pair?
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jim, yeah we understand about the grip issue. We have often mixed and matched front and rears to get better traction, steering, control, etc.
@jimfeldman40353 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports Do you have a recommendation for the front that could give more bite but still not track rain grooves?
@jarrodleis40462 жыл бұрын
I have run the 705 rear and 244 front. I find this to be an excellent combo for a lot of rides. I actually have two sets of wheels for my DR. 705/244 for my “street” set and a 244 rear with a Dunlop 606 front for my off-road set. If I only had one set of wheels I would probably just run 244’s
@sreach93 Жыл бұрын
Toby Price rolls out a street bike, with street tyres on a dirt road and kills it. Us mere mortals always blame tyres and suspension for our inadequate riding ability
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Haha. If only we all rode as well as Toby Price.
@ffc22645 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you for the video. I saw some Pasadena signs, where is this first big open trail at?
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
It is the Santa Ana river in San Bernardino off the 215 just before it hits the 210.
@mrantone916 Жыл бұрын
There should be an 806 with minimal offset knobby’s .
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
That's an idea.
@ll.79274 жыл бұрын
Picking up a Drz400sm this month should I learn to ride with the stock tires or should I put these on? Plan to learn to ride in the baseball field n woods by my house lol.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for watching our video. The DRZ400SM comes stock with Dunlop Sportmax tires which are street oriented tires so it won't have the best traction offroad. However, the hard packed dirt infield found at many baseball fields and is pretty slippery and even the best knobby tires will still often struggle with getting good traction. If you're going to learn to ride offroad on the DRZ400SM then yeah the 705s will serve you better than the stock Dunlop Sportmax tires.The 705s would serve you better in the wooded areas you describe as there will probably be softer soil where they can grab and get traction. Hope that helps. Ride safe.
@Dr0ctagonapus510 ай бұрын
That twisty road was gorgeous. What state is this?
@chaparralmotorsports10 ай бұрын
Hello, we are located in Southern California. All testing was done within a 100 mile vicinity of our store.
@Dr0ctagonapus510 ай бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports Nice. I'm a norcal rider, myself.
@corrinmarsh3133 жыл бұрын
how would you rate the performance on the grooved concrete highway? I found my Michelin t63 and kenda 270 like to dance around when I ride on roads with that grooved surface.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Hello, take a look at the final video and write up we put together on our ADV tire test. It may help provide some answers. www.chapmoto.com/blog/
@liberals_destroy_everythin24972 ай бұрын
Very brave of you to take such a heavy street bike off-road. Be thankful you didn't snap a leg bone yet.
@chaparralmotorsports2 ай бұрын
Thanks, but the Africa Twin is designed for offroad, trails, street and beyond.
@forwardomni13552 жыл бұрын
Are you using ram mounts for your cameras? BTW you sold me on the tire....
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Hello, yes we were.
@donut31105 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a workout! lol
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Yes... a bit. Especially the deadlift - or deadhold - on the hill coming out of the wash! Darn these 600 lb bikes!
@Ben474715 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these great reviews, I am on my 3rd set of 705s on my Super Tenere I have got 10k miles out of them but that was way past the prime probably change at 7k would be smarter. They have done good in hard rain (water standing on road) probably goes without saying but in wet clay like you pointed out that lack of side traction really shows up but we cant have everything. I hope at some point you will do a Africa twin vs Adventure sport review or at least share any thoughts you have on the two, It seems the Adventure sport model gets better reviews most the time but never really seen anybody compere the two I am looking for something a little lighter and better for dirt roads than my Tenere and just siting on them in the shop the Adventure feels like it may not handle as well that it might be more like the tenere kind of big fat and heavy but maybe its not noticeable when your riding.
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your inquiry Ben. I do not know how I missed it... Here is my CRF1000L vs the CRF1000L2 ATAS review / comparison video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoCXqX-DYteCb7M Do you have any specific questions? I'd be happy to answer any of them. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@thepab30724 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I was wondering if a 120/70R17 (front) and 150/70R17 (rear) would fit on my CB300R? I do 70% tarmac and 30% gravel/dirt. Turning my little CB into a mini adventure/Scrambler and there's nothing in the stock sizes (110/70R17, 150/60R17) for dual sport tires.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry we haven't tried that setup on a CB300R, the rear would probably work, the front might be an issue since its wider.
@thepab30724 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports going to check how much space I have up front. I may have to mod a bit but if it fits on the wheel well it's a go. You think it will fit on the front wheel?
@brianout13 жыл бұрын
What area are you riding in. This place looks awesome to ride.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Hello, this was all filmed in San Bernardino County, CA. Thanks for watching.
@BoilerRealm4 жыл бұрын
What would you think about a 705 rear and 804 front combination?
@J05H.U44 жыл бұрын
I run that combo right now and it's fantastic. The 705 rear is one of the best tires I have ever ran. I will probably go with a Bridgestone ax41 front and the 705 rear next go around.
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
It is a great combo! That more aggressive front tire will keep the front tire from washing out in the rough stuff. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Love it Joshua82!
@J05H.U44 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports it's a great combo for the switch back gravel roads I ride. Let's the front tire bite into the turn and I can hang the back of the bike out under control. Plus it will not roost your poor friends like a 805 rear.
@BoilerRealm4 жыл бұрын
In that same train of thought, TKC 80 front 70 rear, Anakee Wild Front Adventure rear, Karoo 3 front Karoo Trailrider rear. Any of those have a edge on a heavy bike like the R1200?
@_AndromedaGalaxy_3 жыл бұрын
can the 705 be used on the rear with a 700 on the front? 2008 KLR 650.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
I don't recall if we've every ridden that combination, but people do run different tires front and rear.
@Vulcano19753 жыл бұрын
after 2 years... how many miles or kilometers did the shinko lasted? will you buy them again?
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, we did not keep them on as we had other tires to test. The 705s did take the top spot in our 80/20 ADV Tire Shootout though. So yeah we'd choose them again. Here is a write up and video from that shootout if you are interested: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
@Vulcano19753 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports Thx! that a great video and a pretty good chart. Now I have a good idea of what to buy next for my cb500x. Thx Again....
@imgoingforaride5 жыл бұрын
So you road around in the river with 20 psi front and rear , is that right ? Just curious if you dropped the pressures .
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your inquiry. We ran 30 psi front and rear for the entire test. Sand wash, twisties, dirt and highway. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@imgoingforaride5 жыл бұрын
@@chaparralmotorsports okay thanks for that.
@julioparisc3m Жыл бұрын
how does it work on wet roads and cold ones?
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Sorry we don't get a lot of wet/cold weather here in Southern California...at least not when all this tire testing was being done, so we didn't get to adequately test those elements with this tire.
@edsyphan34259 ай бұрын
I’ve been running 705’s on all my bikes for about 10 yrs, and wet weather is where I think they really shine.
@mrantone9162 жыл бұрын
Guh!!! Rutz!! 😵💫
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
yea!!
@advhawk6455 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how somebody gets "hemmed up" in sand or mud on a 600 lb ADV bike, unless that rider's ego decided to go needlessly looking for trouble without considering how his expensive poseur machine would look all smashed up. 99% of ADV riders *WANT* a tire that looks tough, but they *NEED* a sport-touring tire. The 705s do that well.
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight. Ride safe.
@coconutz2472 жыл бұрын
pro review.
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@stevenkoch84025 жыл бұрын
How do these compare with Anakee Adventure?
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
These E705 tires are very comparable to the Anakee Adventure. The 705 did better in deep sand than the Anakee Adv, but the Anakee did better on hard street. You can't go wrong with either, just depends on what your typical ride looks like and your budget. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@josemanuel22445 ай бұрын
It is true its struggle on wet pavement?
@chaparralmotorsports5 ай бұрын
Hello, not sure what struggles you've heard.
@josemanuel22445 ай бұрын
That it doesn't handle well in wet pavement. It can get slippery
@K9River2 жыл бұрын
I thought you had stepped on a nail at one point.
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha.
@dualsportdiary11505 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Brian!
@91rickybakerАй бұрын
What about on a dyna?
@chaparralmotorsportsАй бұрын
Hello, sorry we have not tested these tires on a Dyna.
@hby77685 жыл бұрын
Shinko 705 or the scorpion mt90?
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your inquiry HBY. Well, if you are getting dirty, I would recommend the Shinko 705 and if you spend mos of your time on-road I'd recommend the scorpion mt90. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@pigeonpallz17334 жыл бұрын
What happened on the hill
@chaparralmotorsports4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@Mark-oc4un5 ай бұрын
Little disappointed with the life span of my 705s only have a little over 4,000 miles mostly road on a 1290 SAS.And middle of tier has maybe 20% left.
@chaparralmotorsports5 ай бұрын
Hello, sorry to hear that about your tires.
@LeeKirkman883 жыл бұрын
Somewhere theres a guy who only buys tires when he see's sparks flying, Like my stepdad whos right tight fisted so and so.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. That's true. Thanks for watching.
@TUBEYOU0112 Жыл бұрын
Too much noise on your mic.. maybe try another mic
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Ok. Thanks
@ErrybodyGetTypsy2 жыл бұрын
High quality and very thorough review! Thanks for this!
@chaparralmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@afherrera445 жыл бұрын
Buy Michelin!!
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Michelin makes some great tires! The Anakee Adventure tire is really really impressive! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@shadzgohan14745 жыл бұрын
1st
@chaparralmotorsports5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@michaellafreniere5083 Жыл бұрын
Why you breathing like you ran a marathon
@chaparralmotorsports Жыл бұрын
It's tough work riding off road and trying to narrate a video.
@michaellafreniere5083 Жыл бұрын
Almost thought helmet was cutting out air supply. Nice work testing!
@CanadianMang3 жыл бұрын
Dude you might be out of shape, that was some heavy breathing.
@chaparralmotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Kyle rides every day and splits his time pretty equally between on road/hard core off road riding. We had him doing a bunch of different things in the riverbed which required a lot of stopping, starting, slow speed riding and just generally having fun in the sand, so yeah he might have been out of breath a couple times managing the big Africa Twin. Thanks for watching.