Tested The Counterfeit Milwaukee 3.0 Vs The Real And The HO CP2.5

[@riceball777]

cp2.5 uses high discharge samsung 25s cells that are rated at 25 a continuous 25 amp discharge rate and the cp3.0 uses sony vtc6 or samsung 30q cells rated at 15 amps. Because of this the 2.5 will have more power and less voltage sag and will be superior in high power drain tool like the m12 stubby or the m12 circular saw and the m12 hammer drill. but the cp3.0 will be superior in low power draw tools like lights, heated gear and so forth.

[@Factoryseconds123]

Cp2.0 is technically high discharge as well

[@DiscoveringOutdoors]

What about heated gear on high, is not not considered high drain?

[@HaileyDeKroon]

Was looking for this exact info regarding heated gear. Thanks!

[@alfredbernal8603]

Thank you! Big difference from fake to real..plenty of fake on ebay being sold. As for difference between real 3.0 & the new 2.5, not much

[@Tools-Tested]

No Problem! Yep just got the 5.0 cant wait to load test it! Im going to crank the amps up to 30, I think we will see a big difference in performance at that load.

[@ElDiablo223]

Another great video, thank you. Cheers 🍻

[@Tools-Tested]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@DiscoveringOutdoors]

Great video, just found the 2.5 H.O. at Home depot 79$can. Works great in the Hoodia heater.

[@Tools-Tested]

Thanks! Nice should come in handy this winter!

[@MrDugbo171]

I got a couple "fake" cp3.0's that last no longer than my cp1.5's, but they were stupid cheap. Not worth buying anything on eBay anymore.....

[@gts5930]

Thanks for the follow up! Brookfield spelled wrong on fake, also said "or" instead of "and"... My CP3.0 from Home Depot also has Murata cells.

[@Tools-Tested]

No problem!

[@luisfontanez1770]

I’m sold!!! Counterfeit is no bueno

[@Utuber-x44]

One big giveaway is the missing screw on the bottom. Only takes a quick glance to check that.

[@jayyoung3876]

Why the discrepancy in runtime between the CP3.0 and XC3.0? If theyre both rated or advertised as 3.0Ah shouldnt the runtime be equal in theory? It wasnt even close!

[@Tools-Tested]

In theory yes, I believe the voltage drop because of resistance plays a roll in this. The XC can hold the voltage higher longer because it's using 6 cells instead of 3 in the CP allowing the XC to drain all the way. Were as the CP voltage drops faster and then the load shuts off, once the load is off I would expect the CP to have a better recovery vs the XC. If the load was 1amp I would expect the run time to be similar.

[@theperfectpaintertoolreview]

The fake also doesn't have a screw in the bottom

[@y_zass]

My CP3.0 and XC6.0 both have the same pink Samsung cells. They are the only 2 M12 batteries I have and need. I have 5 of the tools too. Thing is, I only need them for DIY and I only have 2 hands haha

[@dperreno]

Actually, if you do your temperature calculations in Celsius (e.g. set your zero point to the freezing point of water), then you will see a 22% drop in temperature vs. the CP 3.0.

[@J.Wick.]

Thanks man! I've gotten some very, very convincing fakes from both eBay and Amazon. They're scary close in appearance. I'm still not sold on these HO M12s. For 10$ more. I was skeptical to begin with given the size constraints m12 comes with. There was no way they were gonna fit 21700s inside. Awesome testing. Looking forward to the 5 vs. 6. That one may have some difference. But I'll stick with the 3.0 myself for the smaller dudes. Typical typos on the bottom sticker of the fake. Brookfield vs Brookidid WI. Update - there is a difference.

[@Tools-Tested]

No problem! Yeah its crazy. I'm going to pull all of them down at higher amp tests and we will see if the 2.5 can run longer at that higher load. Thanks for the info on the sticker.

[@procrastinator1842]

Actually, it's the new(ish) 25S. Much better under load than the old 25R. I just got my hands on some 20S cells and they are significantly better again than the 25S. I built a 3 cell CP pack with them and it powers even the circular saw as well as the 6.0!

[@J.Wick.]

@@procrastinator1842 yeah. I corrected myself in another video. The updated video. 25s is quite superior to 30q. And I was thinking of 30T 21700s in the latter statement. Metabo HPT has had the 25S in their MV 2.5/5ah batteries for some time now. They bump up to the 40T 21700s for their 4/8ah battery. But yeah those have been around awhile.

[@enocalvarado6350]

The 2.5 HO are out for sale at home depot(online) offer $99 for 2 pack

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep its good to see some deals now on the HO.

[@enocalvarado6350]

@@Tools-Tested I got them yesterday, and can you test the 2.5 HO vs the 3.0 cp same design ? Which one is better I think you did a test but I would like to see it in action like tools and such

[@enocalvarado6350]

Thanks for the reply your videos really helped me

[@Tools-Tested]

@@enocalvarado6350 nice! I have tested the 2.5 and 5.0 already on the dyno vs 3.0 and the rest of the m12 battery’s for hammer drill, installation driver, cut off tool and die grinder. I also did a separate video labeled “m12 high output equals higher performance”

[@enocalvarado6350]

@@Tools-Tested I’m watching it ! Hell yeh, thanks !

[@MrHakced]

Ok Yes your right the extra 10 is worth because of the Sony 18650 batts. Now I buy and use fake m12 batteries because I do a lot sawing in dirty spots and I pay 54 dollers for two 9.0mah batteries the only problem is sometimes the clips that hold it in break but I just have it exchanged and once it was to late so I bought another set switched the tops were the clip was and was able to get them replaced but now I have four 9 mah two 6 mah two 2.0mqh and one 4.0 that came with the saw

[@rosendoelplebe2833]

Would you recommend these? Just bought a impact driver and it comes with a battery but I wanted to order more for backup.

[@Tools-Tested]

I probably wouldn't order the Counterfeit fit ones. I do think the 2.5 is better then the 3.0 from my testing, but it really comes down to price. I will say you can find some decent deals on kits at HomeDepot right now.

[@theneondino]

Did you notice it says "Brookfidld" on the bottom?

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep kinda funny.

[@josegarcia2014]

I'd really like to see how the waitly 9.0ah battery would test, it definitely has an advantage with an extra row of cells. Also seemingly lasts twice as long as my 4ah batteries

[@Tools-Tested]

I haven't had it on the load cell yet, but performance wise in a drill it wasn't great compared to OEM. kzbin.infoz65XVMdUA0U?feature=share

[@h8GW]

Do you remember where you got that counterfeit battery? This damn battery has been intriguing me ever since your vid where you discovered the Ah discrepancy.

[@Tools-Tested]

So looks like eBay and they are now out of stock, www.ebay.com/itm/185306116109

[@warmonger9124]

Waitley batteries are legit. I buy them for myvM12 lights.

[@2hotscottpro]

If I was your neighbor I’d just use your batteries 😝

[@warmonger9124]

@@2hotscottpro , best I can do is chin-waukee exploding batteries you an borrow.

[@J.Wick.]

They're legit performing knockoffs. Usually. I run their "9ah" M12s in high drain items like the vacuums, rocket light, etc. Get a bit more runtime, and saves the wear on the pricey batteries.

[@BenzDetecting]

The M12 logo looks different..

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep they stamped the M wrong in the M12 😂

[@theperfectpaintertoolreview]

I knew something wasn't rite cuz I have two cp3.0 and they both get 3ah runtime for me. It should be the same cells as the xp6.0

[@warmonger9124]

Chin-Waukee nefarious batteries up to no good.