How Ridiculous Was Filming the MythBusters Herding Cats Episode?

Tested member KeelyCatsMom asks Adam, "Was shooting the Herding Cats myth as absolutely ridiculous as it seemed? Jamie vs the floof made me cry laughing!" Here's Adam's answer. Thank you, KeelyCatsMom, for your question and support (and sorry, everyone, for the ambient noise)! Join this channel to support Tested and get access to perks, like asking Adam a question:
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[@alekmoth]

Still doing these thumbnails that are fake? Please stop. This is not acceptable behavior. I will start reporting videos even though I love Adam.

[@whiskeyfur]

You REALLY need to upload the CC track yourself on this one. KZbin's algorithm has closed caption saying you were HURTING cats. Not HERDING cats.

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

But did you try programmers?

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It’s really nice to see such a huge part of my childhood still smiling

[@Mel-rf4jv]

Same

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This though

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@@francoisfranceschini7947 the fact that "science shows" and "science adjacent shows" are gone, and the closest now are more of a "vaguely references science" still bothers me. I mean yes now we have youtube and all (and streaming services > cable), but content should still have some intellectual aspects. Even (some) kids shows used to have a science theme and be at least kinda right with the science (at least thematically). I haven't studied tv content trends, maybe society just had an awake decade before going back into sheeple mode. And since i've already gotten off track, i'll quote the end of the hacker manifesto as it is on topic with thinkers vs those who dont. "we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us will- ing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert. This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals. Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike."

[@mfaizsyahmi]

Title: Herding Adam: Herding Captions: _Hurting_ KZbin: *ＤＥＭＯＮＥＴＩＺＥＤ*

[@ferbfreeman9239]

You can tell he's trying so hard to make sure to make sure he doesn't mispronounce it.

[@adrianscarlett]

KZbin algorithm needs more dada

[@rpavlik1]

And the irony is, those aren't even youtube auto captions. They paid someone or some machine to caption for them.

[@FulloutPostal]

nah, it's the nipples...

[@garrettwilson7653]

Luka?

[@allanroberts7129]

Mythbusters: Cats, move! Cats: No. We do what we want. WE reject YOUR reality and substitute OUR own.

[@Luzarioth]

I loved this quote... sadly Trump took it as his Mantra not realizing that it was a joke.

[@Woodside235]

@@Luzarioth Wtf is with people like you and making everything about Trump?

[@TysonJensen]

@@Woodside235 it’s literally Trump’s only actual skill. Getting people to obsess about him. He is god tier at that, so is it a surprise at all that people obsess over someone with god tier “make you obsess about me” abilities?

[@Woodside235]

@@TysonJensen Yeah well he's out of office so it'd be grand if everyone would just kick him out of a rent-free mind.

[@FireLordJohn3191]

@@Woodside235 and now we have another one in the White House that his in his own world. I miss Trump.

[@VilkataG]

I have to dispute the absolute that cats cannot be herded. During my childhood, we had a miniature collie and 3 cats. Without training, the collie instinctively knew how to herd, and when it was time to bring the cats back in for the night, telling him "get the kitties" was sufficient to send him out looking for the cats, circling them, and pushing them to the door until they all came in. Watching his herding instincts in action is one of my fondest childhood memories.

[@Lunareon]

That's adorable, thank you for sharing this story. Maybe cats just refuse to be herded by humans specifically. We are clearly inferior beings to them. xD

[@katyungodly]

I’m guessing cats are more easily scared by dogs than humans because they were specifically bred to not be afraid of us :)

[@leadpaintchips9461]

@@katyungodly The episode had a herding dog, and both the cats and the dog were all sorts of confused and troubled with the situation. The dog didn't understand why the cats were resistant to the herding, and the cats as to why this dog was being threatening towards them.

[@MisterZee92]

@@katyungodly probably more to do with the cats familiarity with the dog - they dont get their heckles up over someone they've grown up with, and I have no doubt someone who owns 20 cats from their birth could probably "herd" them, it just wouldn't be the way we do it with cattle/sheep. Cats are just assholes.

[@r3x3is9]

We had a similar experience. We had four cats that we let outside in the back yard. When it was time for them to come in, I would find them and clap my hands while telling them it was time to go in, and they moved very obediently towards to door. They would hiss sometimes, or try to move in a different direction, but clapping and steering them always worked. I'm not sure if that counts as herding, but it's essentially the same thing, and very possible.

[@NarattoRadians]

I have been cradling my cats since they were kittens. They're trained against the behavior of running away, and now I can hardly get anything done because I have two cats that both want to be carried like a baby.

[@whimsicalgolde]

I have a baby cat too. 2 years. She does not tell me. But I make sure to carry her. She cries and goes for a nap in my arm. All 3 of my cats were like that. I only have one, but I told my family. If it was not for us. They would have lived on the street. The lady was going to let them go. She asked my aunt if she knew someone. They were small, and bald patches. Also, I had to cure them from ringworm. I took on the medical stuff at home myself, with help. They were a joy till the end😍

[@ChrisB.C.]

I love this, because herding cats and a lead balloon are both equally, fascinatingly absurd. Lead is highly malleable. Cats are the physical embodiment of, "Nope!" I adore all you at Tested, especially for content like this. ❤

[@allanroberts7129]

Agreed! So many fun and wacky myths.

[@r3x3is9]

Cats are the physical embodiment of, "Nope!" This is my new favourite saying 😹

[@Crafterrian]

Me: *Clacks a can.* My 3 Cats: "Meeeeeooooooww."

[@JTNvm]

That's summoning, not herding, though! I mean, I know there's no dark circle made with the blood of a recent animal/virginal sacrifice, but it is a summoning nonetheless.

[@custos3249]

What happened to your other 7?

[@christopherfleetwood5252]

@@JTNvm Just to clarify, are you sacrificing the Virgins, or are the virgins sacrificing their virginity? Cuz one’s fun, the other is a crime...

[@Storyteller543]

so, so, true

[@JTNvm]

@@christopherfleetwood5252 Yes.

[@sepposyXIV]

The confusion of the truly professional shepherd dog when it didn't succeed in herding the cats at all was heartbreaking. Nice that she was consoled. ♡

[@McMillanTAC]

I love how the subtitles interpreted "herding" as "hurting". Makes the story even more bizzare

[@KairuHakubi]

"But... I herd sheep" "Yes, you are hurting sheep."

[@ghoulofmetal]

Also none of the names are capitalized

[@Giraffemini]

Adam Savage with a big grin proclaiming "it is IMPOSSIBLE to hurt cats. We had great fun trying to hurt cats " 😅

[@onometre]

"today were testing if there really is more than one way to skin a cat*

[@KairuHakubi]

@@Giraffemini Myth: do cats have nine lives? *PAWSIBLE.*

[@weegaz22]

The auto generated "Closed Captioning" is particularly hilarious on this one, Adam constantly talking about him and Jamie "hurting cat's".

[@sparkieT88]

"cat in the wall ehhh!?!?!" - charlie day

[@DeCapitanOG]

Now you're talking my language

[@nerdaitami7205]

thought the same thing

[@PizzaGoat323]

Cats don't obey the laws of physics

[@joos3D]

What you're gonna need is another cat

[@The_Ghost_of_Aristotle]

Its flattened itself out and slipped right through a seam in your wall.

[@cynthiaprichard7241]

Adam, you are the only person who can keep us sane in the coming weeks. I appreciate your time on KZbin so much. It is a constant delight to see you and share your experiences. We love you.

[@DevinJuularValentine]

Feeling the same way. He's so positive, feels like a beacon in the storm to be on this channel at this time

[@rrtsduf]

But it can't get worse! It's a fact. It is impossible to get worse. You have my 100 percent promise! 😶

[@samuraijack4083]

Simps

[@DevinJuularValentine]

I'm the biggest simp for Savage although I'd rather he was just my dad, not my daddy

[@VonBlade]

I love the gathering of things on the workbench changing each time and making us consider the hidden stories it has to tell.

[@rcs368]

I always like these short little Q&A's. Watched MB from day 1, but would have never guessed there would be a day you could ask Adam Savage a question, and he would answer you personally.

[@calebdonaldson8770]

How cattle's brain processes stimuli: "Ooh, what's dat over dere?!" How cat's brain processes stimuli: "YOU DARE?!"

[@davidp2888]

The way Adam starts every video makes me feel like he's welcoming me into his home.

[@Johnfromthedesert]

The idiom myths were some of the best. I still laugh aloud when I think of Jamie brandishing a scary mechanical claw at a baby and saying, "Surrender your candy."

[@LemonadeOnMars]

I watched this three times in a row lmao Adam is such a delightful storyteller 🧡 Your joy is always such a blessing to my days, thank you for what you do Adam!

[@chris-hayes]

Right? I think most people wish they had Adam's maker skills, but I wish I had Adam's communication skills. He's so articulate and knows how to tell a story in a compelling way.

[@Closer2Zero]

1:05 *Quack Damn You*

[@chris-hayes]

Out is curiosity, what is that dragon avatar from?

[@moonlightdelights]

Did I just hear that quack echo echo echo

[@atiredfloridian777]

I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING!

[@JackMacLupus]

Haha, still love that one. One of my favorite quotes from Jamie!

[@Tom32ka]

Thank you Adam. Lockdown sucks and I always feel I've learnt something from watching your videos, whether it's tool tips or just meeting Simone. You're the best.

[@TonyJewell0]

Adam, your enthusiasm and intelligence is infectious. Thanks for being a great communicator, maker and an all round nice guy.

[@alanequest7812]

Adam, you really need to make a youtube playlist for these tested mythbusters videos. New fans and old fans would definately like it, makes it easier to watch

[@algorithm1193]

2:49 significant meme potential

[@7yditchfits]

@mauvepuppet I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking it.

[@WyattWinters]

This was my exact thought and went to search the comments immediately. Sadly no witty ones yet

[@tkmiller_author]

I had a partial mastectomy about five years ago (the left one tried to kill me 😄) and it was like a day surgery and then I went home to recuperate for about two months. For the first three weeks it was just rest and I'm used to doing things but here I was stuck. At the time, Mythbusters was on Netflix and I had all the seasons on repeat until I could actually start being mobile again and then get back to work. I still watch. Every day, another Mythbusters episode. It stimulates thinking and reasoning and I still enjoy it so much! Thanks for all you did with that show and for all you do now! 💙💙👍👍

[@Starlight1680]

Ok, so, 2 things. First: It seems like the older Adam gets, the more he looks like a mad scientist. Second: I have 3 cats. I also have an Australian cattle dog (mix). The dog keeps trying to herd the cats. She’s a smart dog but “you can’t herd cats” is the one thing she refuses to accept. She’s determined to figure out how to do it. Maybe I should show her that episode.

[@Cadrid]

Now I’m curious if Simone Giertz could come up with a shitty grocery-shopping robot.

[@SoupEaterExtraordinaire]

I picture some sort of arm that just sweeps everything off the shelf and onto the floor, missing the cart entirely.

[@frankzaffuto3670]

Michael Reeves?

[@snailsaredumb9412]

@@frankzaffuto3670 William Osman?

[@Craftlngo]

I thought, I’m the only one, who remembers Hongkong Phooey!

[@MonsoonEast]

One of my all time favorites!

[@TrippingtheBrightFantastic]

I remember it!

[@TobiasRieperGER]

Greetings from germany, we had Mythbusters here in TV with a time shift caused by the sync works they done to the show. We all LOVE the show and missing this funny crazy stuff you were making in the show. Thanks for that. Its really great to hear what happened behind the curtain.

[@GideonLesson]

The way you say "Hey how it's going" warms my heart in times like this

[@mirthenary]

Thanks, Adam. My mind will not rest until I go back and watch the shopping episode and see where she shows up😫

[@Vickie-Bligh]

I so loved that episode and that poor border collie. That had me in stitches. Love these stories and I hope you keep it up. Thanks, Adam for the walk down memory lane.

[@nobodynews]

For some reason I had closed captioning on. I suggest editing it so it says "herding" instead of "hurting" cats.

[@Datmoss2195]

I really like that this channel doesn’t try to edit their videos to perfection. Also, I grew up on Myth Busters, will become a senior in high school this year.

[@robertphillips360]

This is such good timing because I have been going back through and re watching mythbusters; and I watched this episode yesterday, it is one of my favorites. Also, Adams right, they did cover the cat that got stuck in the wall!

[@antraxxslingshots]

"Herdings Cats" sounds more like a punishment to me then a myth :D

[@zachrodan7543]

followup question from someone who is rewatching all the mythbusters episodes, did learning how to herd ducks also teach you how to get them to quack on command, so that you could check for an echo without having to filter out the other duck's quacking. (I feel like that really bugged me about the myth of whether a duck's quack echos: the only way you found to get the ducks to quack was to make them talk to each other, but then it seems even harder than it already was to find an elusive echo over the additional noise caused by duck number 2). On a completely unrelated note, I do find it odd looking through the old episodes that in the intro, hyneman got the voice clip for both of you, with the narrator's introduction of you being followed by jamie saying "I always enjoy seeing adam in pain".

[@ArekusaSan]

2:49 was way funnier than it should've been because it reminds me of the "your toes, hand em over" meme

[@doaremoaen591]

I'm so glad I could find you on KZbin. Thanks for being here.

[@TyDaleChannel]

Loving these Q&A!

[@TrollFaceTheMan]

It's awesome to see how fondly you remember this. Love the energy.

[@Zerbey]

Thanks for doing this, it's been really interesting and I hope you keep answering.

[@kaycee1076]

3:41 there! Right there! That's the "what the hell are we doing?!" face! So long after he already did it and he still has the face for it lol!

[@thebroadwaybibliophile4731]

The cat herding was definitely filmed at the Alameda County Fairgrounds - specifically in building D (which was torn down two years ago, so that location is now a just a big cement pad). I used to be part of the exhibits staff that would set the displays in that building and staff it during the fair I’d know that exposed insulation anywhere!

[@rockwilder0]

Lead balloon was one of my personal favorites.

[@woopygoman]

Just wanted to say the A/V fidelity really helps with immersion, enjoyment and maintaining our attention. Keep up the high quality!

[@chris-hayes]

I like to believe I've watched enough "Gold Shaw Farm" that I can go to the park and start herding the ducks and geese.

[@eformance]

Herding Chickens: Show them the scoop you feed them with!

[@AnubisGray]

Or just walk into the field! 🤣

[@charliem7314]

Feed them organ grape mash once. One time. They will never leave you alone.

[@ashtonanderson8898]

dear savage, being at closer to 30, i most love how happy you look and act. watching everything when i was when the shows came out i can see how fast time gets, cheers to your happy organised very meaninful and inspiriational life. it would be awesome to meet you one day

[@kingjames4886]

it's fun to hear more about mythbusters, especially the bits that couldn't be mentioned before. thanks adam!

[@o0Avalon0o]

Lovely episode! Unlike herding animals, cats need familiarity & motivation to allow any "herding." The best thing in the world has been learning how to get a cat to come when you call it's name once, even with wild-born cats.

[@desel8737]

*HERDING* VS *HURTING* (english subs) herding: 0:25, 0:39, 0:53, 0:56, 1:02, 1:19, 2:23, 2:27, 2:31, 4:12, hurting: 1:08, 1:27, 2:39, 2:42, 3:48, 4:10,

[@nathang9644]

This was nice to hear! Though, my mom took a look at my screen and said "He got old, but I did too." Lol

[@sepiasmith5065]

"the volunteers spent the night in the space with the cats to keep them happy and comfortable. so amazing of them!" it would be an honor

[@Voltaic_Fire]

Great, now I've got the Hong Kong Phooey intro stuck in my head despite not even thinking about that show in decades. Thanks, Adam.

[@Pyriphlegeton]

Just noticed the casual Mark I Iron Man Suit in the background. Adam, you're amazing.

[@ChronosWar]

That was a tremendously deep cut, but I'm never unhappy to hear Hong Kong Phooey get a mention

[@deucewaldo2478]

Hey Adem I’m a big fan and went to one of your shows when I was about 7 and have never forget it also keep being awesome

[@GuryWullums]

My aunt was Debbie Pollard, the sheep herding expert you visited when you were herding sheep and she was the handler for Oscar (im pretty sure thats the dog she brought with her for the episode). I hope you enjoyed rolling your ankles in all the gopher holes lol

[@victorcast2467]

I love how on this Q&As feel so intimate. I feel like I'm sitting with Adam face to face and he is telling me cool stories of his life.

[@mechanicchicken]

This answering questions series is my favourite

[@WSDFirm]

“Number One super guy!” :) Very deep, cut. It made me smile.

[@MrDarthT]

Discovery: You can't say "Busted" anymore. We own your catchphrase. Adam: It's way beyond plausibility.

[@williamlattanziobill2475]

I’ve been rewatching Mythbusters with my daughter and we just watched this episode and it was as great as I remember it. Now I know this has been gone over ad nauseam, but I still don’t believe that Adam and Jamie weren’t “friends”. I understand that they didn’t hang out or socialize, but there is no way that they just worked well together and that’s that. There are so many occasions that you can see them genuinely enjoying each other’s company, and that in and of itself is a form of friendship.

[@Ghost_Hybrid]

Adam, thank you for the many, many hours of entertainment and learning with Mythbusters.

[@Augustgamer2004]

Ran across this video randomly, brand new noice, also Mythbusters is one of my favorite shows

[@metropolis10]

Thank you for the signoff. Glad you're using your platform to support education even still.

[@pmvoice88]

One of my favorites is when you tried to throw a hound dog off their scent. What was that like?

[@brandonyoung-kemkes1128]

It’s good to keep people wondering. Thanks for sharing.

[@susanwilliams2392]

Mythbusters: Can you herd cats? Cat: Climbs into the wall. Mythbusters: Cat: Mythbusters: Um, so that's a no.

[@pepper3942]

I'm still trying to recover from laughing so hard at the "Hong Kong Phooey" reference!

[@travisshirk6715]

One of my favorite sentences from my first boss.when he would get mad at us he would walk out of the office saying “I’ve got to go herd the cats now”

[@chrisv4312]

Love hearing these

[@denimchicken104]

Cat in the wall, eh? Okay, now you’re talking my language. This must be Charlie Kelly’s favorite episode.

[@SirAlex0014]

Thanks for talking about this episode.

[@HelloKittyFanMan.]

LOL, "way against plausibility" = "new version of 'busted'," haha! I love it!

[@ElJorro]

I missed that episode. I need to watch it!

[@Sparrow141420]

I love these episodes!!!! SO much!!!!

[@L0g_]

amazing as always

[@DarrylAdams]

My parents old Stumpy tail blue cattle dog used to herd their white deaf cat around the edge of our back yard.

[@SaltyVibrations]

@2:05 I think you meant to say Simon Giertz not Simon Nash

[@zxcvb_bvcxz]

Nope, IIRC that's how you pronounce Giertz.

[@ReverendNaughty]

Giertz is pronounced “yetch.”

[@SaltyVibrations]

@@zxcvb_bvcxz if you listen to her 'omg there''s a channel trailer' vid she clearly says it differently than 'nash'

[@RepublicOfUs]

@@SaltyVibrations Please get your hearing checked. Adam does not say "Nash'. There's a clear "y" sound, and a clear "ch" at the end. It's identical to her own pronunciation in the video you mentioned.

[@10tonhamster]

Simone, not Simon

[@TheoneStanband]

I have been in a couple of similar situations when I had to tear out bits of the house to save a stuck kitty.

[@jerrykreutzer4326]

3:10 A cat in the wall, eh? Okay, now you're talking my language, I know this game.

[@ericbauer4559]

I love all these myth buster questions.

[@barracuda3488]

I’d love to hear you talk about the duct tape island survival episode! How real really was it? (If it was all fake my dreams will not be crushed) and how difficult really was it? Love everything you do stay awesome

[@GoldDragon1]

That would indeed be interesting to know! :)

[@johnmoore3504]

Based on Adam’s replies to other MB questions I’d guess it was 90% accurate. They didn’t fake anything, now some stuff was played up for the camera and many helped behind the scenes because of the work required and time allotted. In other words- do able, but way harder then the TV edits lead you to believe. I hope I’m not wrong because I love me some duct tape! And JB Weld too.

[@sofa-lofa4241]

@@johnmoore3504 if you can't fix something with duct tape (gaffer tape) JB weld (araldite) or zip ties... Then its beyond hope Can any Americans tell me what the U. S. equivalent of zip tie is? Cheers

[@johnmoore3504]

@@sofa-lofa4241 zip ties are the same in the US - and yes they are super helpful 👍🏼

[@raymondjack4634]

Later become when of my closest friends... I believe you meant to say stalker. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. They are to be remembered

[@orellaminx3530]

1:08 You can even get them to respond to a command. Like telling them to go to sleep and they all scoot off to their nesting box.

[@bennyfactor]

Herding ducks? Quack, damn you!

[@heppe1k160]

The captions make it seem like there's a Mythbuster episode with straight-up cat torture out there

[@sybercrafter8418]

this moment when the subtitle is like "hurting cats is totally impossible"

[@boblangill6209]

The EDS cat herding commercial for Super Bowl XXXIV in 2000, is among the all time greats.

[@DeCapitanOG]

You have to send in a second cat with a string tied to it. They'll become codependent, then you yank it out.

[@morganwright6388]

First send in a bird with a string around its teeny tiny little leg

[@DeCapitanOG]

I'll tell you what must have happened, he flattened himself, went right through a seam in your wall.

[@jimwilliams1536]

It's the same with session musicians. Even lost one in the wall once too.

[@Milocinia]

lol. The closed captions showed "herd" and "herding" as "hurt" and "hurting." Changes the whole story to something completely darker.

[@joelw5654]

I'd love to have a shop like yours Adam, wow.

[@glencoconut]

youtube recommended knows what i want

[@revenevan11]

2:46 is so perfect and yet almost cursed, it has me almost crying laughing 🤣

[@MaximumTaco]

"Cat in the wall, eh? Ok, now you're talking my language. I know this game."

[@aleesabarker8352]

I feel like you and Hank Green would get along phenomenally! You guys both give off similar energies :)

[@mary-ruthflores4107]

Next to the mouse and the elephant it is my fav episode! Cats are predators, prey can be herded, predators not so much

[@sofa-lofa4241]

Cats are lazy predators... Double trouble!