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Looking at the wall of drumsticks at the store is both awesome and intimidating, especially if you’re just getting started or are about to try something new. What should you buy? How do you know what’s worth it, especially if it’s something you’ve never used before?
We spent over an hour testing and rating sticks so you don’t have to.
Vater, Headhunters, and Promark generously sent us $1453.47 worth of different models, from brushes and hot rods to straight up Franken-creations. Hopefully this monster review will help you decide which ones will give you the unique, alternate sounds you want from your drums!
0:00 Intro
0:46 Headhunters Shake n’ Roll ($47.99)
2:21 Promark Tubz ($19.99)
4:15 Headhunters Crossovers II ($25.50)
6:58 Headhunters SandMan ($31.95)
9:22 Vater Splashstick Heavy ($29.99)
11:29 Headhunters Soft Corn ($36.99)
13:46 Headhunters Jingle Springs ($45.99)
15:17 Headhunters Fat Bastards ($42.50)
16:19 Headhunters Corn Stock ($29.99)
18:38 Promark Brooms Medium ($27.99)
20:31 Promark Heavy Brush TB6 ($35.95)
22:08 Headhunters Castaways ($55.00)
24:06 Headhunters Soft Corn With A Hard Twist ($35.99)
25:04 Vater T5 Mallets ($39.99)
27:25 Headhunters Crossovers Jingles ($45.99)
29:59 Headhunters Cattails ($35.00)
31:12 Vater Splashstick Light ($29.99)
31:53 Vater Splashstick Rock ($29.99)
33:04 Headhunters Orb-X 25mm Mallets ($17.99)
34:34 Headhunters Thunderclaps ($60.00)
35:46 Headhunters Finger Flips ($35.99)
36:57 Headhunters Stingers ($22.95)
38:06 Headhunters Drumclaps small ($49.99)
38:56 Vater Monster Brush ($21.95)
40:40 Headhunters Finger Snaps ($35.00)
41:27 Vater Splashstick ($29.99)
42:13 Headhunters Stinger Yellow ($22.95)
43:12 Vater AcouStick ($21.99)
44:50 Vater Splashstick Traditional Slim ($21.99)
45:20 Vater Splashstick Traditional ($21.99)
46:12 Vater Bamboo Splashstick Slim ($21.99)
47:05 Headhunters Ninja Tip II ($17.99)
49:04 Headhunters Echo Ball ($35.00)
49:48 Headhunters Beavertails ($27.00)
51:15 Headhunters Cyclops Brush ($40.00)
52:10 Headhunters Dreamcatchers ($40.00)
53:05 Headhunters Bing Bongs ($30.00)
53:47 Vater Splashstick Bamboo ($21.99)
54:00 Headhunters Rhino ($40.00)
54:36 Headhunters Crossovers II Poly Bead ($30.00)
55:29 Headhunters Drumclaps Large ($60.00)
56:06 Headhunters Tublitz ($18.00)
56:48 Vater Wire Tap Retractable ($39.95)
57:24 Vater AcouStick Solid ($21.99)
With so many different shapes and materials you can use to make sounds, the key is to try a few to see what you like and decide what’s the best fit for your playing environment.
Which of these would you add to your stickbag?
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[@DrumeoOfficial]

Which of these would you add to your stickbag?

[@aduozokeretz2k]

Probably the brushes

[@mattbarron4631]

The tubes look pretty cool

[@gabrielnowacki]

Vater Splashstick Rock got my heart \m/

[@nickey7473]

All

[@rohanb6727]

those new drumeo vater 5a sticks 😉

[@XiyuYang]

The natural sequel: Rimshot all these drumsticks till they're broke.

[@headhunterssticksandcreati7334]

Try the Crossovers, that’s one of the strokes we designed this stick to handle. Also, every thing we design and the materials us d have a natural dynamic range. If any drummer exceeds that, then the result are what you can expect. It is up to a drummer to develop the skill sets to determine how best to play in a dynamic musical situation. Otherwise maybe play another instrument that has an amplifier and a volume control.

[@TM_Stone]

Never be ashamed of your small stick bag my young apprentice. It's what you do with the sticks in the bag that count.

[@iamstruck]

thanks palpatine

[@hpatss4966]

Thank you your highness

[@VertesaGaming]

I read this in your voice

[@ethan2080k]

That's what she said

[@layz_gaming_4275]

@@ethan2080k haha

[@ynnnnnaD]

The only thing bigger than the Drumeo franchise is Jared's stickbag

[@rosekwakyewaa1085]

Danny Moreta 🤣🤣

[@mikehawk9461]

And the amount of ads they have on a video that’s is an ad.

[@hugorezende199]

I really tought he would rate "normal" wood sticks, from different sizes, woods, brands, tips and etc. I wasnt expecting a bunsh of very experimental weird sticks...witch is also interesting review.

[@yngboss2316]

Me to😂

[@bigyoshi42069]

Me: I’m only gonna watch 5 mins of this Me 55 mins later: MOM JUST GIVE ME 5 MORE MINUTES!!!

[@ThatSwedishDrummer]

😂😂😂

[@fernandogalindo5370]

Guilty as charged.

[@wilward4778]

Same so far, 38 minutes in

[@noahbattistelli9931]

What I’m doing here at 3 am I have school in 3 hours I don’t even have a drum set

[@markdemell3717]

Use margarine and ice cream containers.

[@jamiesmith5353]

Same!!! 3:44 am on a Monday lmao

[@WavePotter]

🤣

[@duncanmacgregor9565]

lmao thats funny af

[@AlejandroSifuentes]

Am I the only one who found taking the sticks out of the bag satisfying?

[@aarushs9201]

wow! good to see you here alejandro!

[@DrumeoOfficial]

I know what you mean! :)

[@ireadysucks3026]

I don’t have a bag to take them out of :(

[@omardelarosa4610]

No it doesn’t

[@genesisarellano7688]

I love you

[@Walk3rKing]

every time the tiny splash was hit: 15:55 - HH Fat Bastards 19:33 - Promark Brooms Medium 45:34 - 45:55 Vater Splashstick Traditional 55:12 - HH Crossovers II Poly Bead 57:55 - Vater AcouStick Solid

[@adrianhuertas7407]

The first sticks would be great for the cajon, too!

[@cameroncourt3410]

Those vater monster brushes would be good for cajon as well

[@noahbarnes9770]

But dude, what if I don’t want to play the cajon?

[@cameroncourt3410]

@@noahbarnes9770 *cowbell intensifies*

[@samuel-nolandavey.3625]

"Or the ones at 13:45" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Doinstuffman]

Let's get rdavidr to make his own Tubz

[@DrumeoOfficial]

Would be a short video!

[@pineapplearthur4175]

@@DrumeoOfficial do it tho!!!

[@colincolin8722]

You know Jared, you're one of the greatest drummer i ever have seen.... I remeber many years ago you was kind of shy behind the drumset, allways with a serious face and for me, unrelaxed... And now: A rocket on the drums! Relaxed, cool, amazing drummer with a happy face and for me one of the best teacher ever! Thank you for all your videos, your love for us musicians and your inspiration.

[@AlexTsaler]

Thought it would be a comparrison of normal sticks

[@Horriblespeedrunning]

Me too. Haha

[@joandrumz3176]

Ya, me too and I play an E kit, so all of that sound stuff doesn't matter for me anyways

[@grachisol8236]

Joan _MUE92 Vic Firth makes sticks for e kits.

[@AlexTsaler]

@@grachisol8236 for example? I found good sticks for e kit for myself. it's a Nova VF-N5BNB. maybe there is something better?

[@grachisol8236]

AlexTsaler they’re called American Classic Esticks.

[@hinenik]

38:02... call me crazy but i don't think he gave that thing a 9/10 xD

[@sashaivanov995]

a lot of the rates differ from what David actually said, the editor must have been very tired

[@sashaivanov995]

my bad, I saw rdavidr somewhere in the comments but I meant jared

[@911copcar]

@@sashaivanov995 are you tired? lol jk

[@ReignJeffersonCTria]

For an hour long video i think that's respectable

[@joshwright2946]

The felt on the mallets will last longer if you avoid touching them with your hands because the oils from your hands actually breaks down the felt.

[@ldeaI.]

Cool

[@diogoalmeidavisuals]

Very interesting video. Suggestion for a future installment of a comparison like this, review them by category. So that as a viewer we go from category to category with all the variations of the "same type of stick" in sequence to compare them in an A/B test

[@t3hgir]

I have large hands and have always been a Vic Firth 2B guy (danny carey signature is nice) but for the last few years I've really enjoyed using the VF Matt Garstka models. Lately though I tried some Vater 2Bs and fell in love again with what a heavier stick lets you do.

[@stevemardon544]

I like how focusing on the sticks makes Jared come to his natural 'groove comfort zone'. I think you have a lesson with Benny Greb teaching us about the 'drummer's muscle' that keeps us turning towards the floor toms while playing a fill :D

[@derlukas5711]

I love that video! Nearly 20 years ago I bought my first pair of "Hot Rods". They lasted only a few weeks. The second pair was better and I found a way to repair them myself. I replaced the single broken rods. We had a rehearsal with a new guitar player and while all the others talked I repaired my Hot rods. The guy looked at me with big eyes like I was inventing my own Light Saber. Take care and greetings from Germany!

[@nortonvaz4031]

I really enjoyed this video. Watched the entire video for an hour just for the different kinds of drum sticks. Very informative. Thank you, Jared. God bless. Love from India.

[@lorencing]

Thanks for the vid, nice to see a bulk test :)

[@JoeLoffredo]

Wow, that was cool - I had no idea there were so many varieties of non-traditional sticks.

[@markdemell3717]

I wanted to see him play with chop sticks.

[@jamiesmith5353]

My first vid of you guys was the rim shot vid. Kinda thought you guys had way to much energy but I'm so happy that I kept watching cause you guys fuel my want to learn drums till I hopfully can't hold it anymore and ask for some for my birthday☺ ( 1 I'm a teenager and 2 I found you guys today 🙂)

[@RADERFPV]

I've been using Promark oak 2b with nylon tips on my ekit, recommended by my teacher. So far they've been pretty good at bouncing off the walls when they go flying out of my hands, not bad at all ;)

[@andywitch666]

this turned out to be a display of Jared tastiest playing!!!

[@rufusdavis137]

My personal favorite sticks to play with are the Promark ROCK 747 nylon tips....they’re very long and I love how durable and sturdy they are also!!!

[@helemaalnicks6215]

I think those crossover sticks are for reggae, when you want to rimclick almost everything, and the design will give you the sound of holding the stick upside down, a common technique by reggae drummers to enhance the sound of their rimclick.

[@headhunterssticksandcreati7334]

Crossovers are a combined stick and bundled rod concept. We leave the skin on the bamboo rods so they are much stronger than standard rods. Because Crossovers are made on a stick platform, they are rimshot and cross-sticking friendly. We drill a hole in the end and insert and epoxy in the bundle of bamboo. Right t the base where the bamboo bundle is connected, there is ‘an enlarged area that is solid wood. This is the target zone when going onto the bell. The bell sound produced is just like a stick.The Crossover have a huge dynamic range. We have 7 models of Crossovers to cover just about anything!

[@andreamalavasi3452]

I suggest trying Drumart's softshot, they're like in between a stick and an hot rod. It's made of wood and you have a big sound out of toms and great definition on cymbals with a medium/low volume

[@MrMcMoobies]

I feel like a lot of these would sound really good played on congas, maybe timbales, etc. Also wood blocks or jam blocks.

[@Luml33t]

With Felt Mallets as soon as the oils from your hand hit the felt that's when they start to break down!

[@mememandan427]

Honestly the headhunters castaways sounds like it could be a refreshments song

[@keithwilson9718]

I've found that Vater grip tape wrapped from the butt of the stick to halfway point works just as good as mallets against a cymbal.

[@ttmx511]

Cool video. Thanks. I’m digging the ninja tips and crossover II’s both by headhunters. I’d like to try those out for church.

[@Doinstuffman]

Some of these make me glad I'm a Vic Firth player. No gimmicks, just the best friggin' drumsticks on the planet.

[@VW.907]

Lol! The tubes. "Oh, little bit of a tube sound" oh man cracked me up

[@singningwongho]

The one stick I use which isn't on here is the Vic Firth Hickory American Classic Rock. They're thicker and a bit heavier stick than most. Great power and attack. They last forever and pretty good for the price.

[@darthdracko]

first time i saw the pro mark tubes was 1997, modern drummer festival. Paul Wertico play his drumset with some kind of cloth over the kit. So the sound of the tubes was more evident

[@dog1783]

Aye that snare switch at 19:37 was kinda clean tho

[@BenBlademanSimpson]

So many tasty fills. I could watch you play all day.

[@Robert-D89]

I’m currently using Vic firth freestyle series and promark oak 747.

[@rosejuliette9180]

Pro tip on the brush playing is to slow down as much as possible with the actual brushing motion. A lot of people I see look like they are trying to whip cream. Start as slow as you can and see if you can get the sound you are going for. Increasing in speed should be used for dynamics whilst pushing harder into the batter should be used for accenting specific beats within the rhythm. You are gently massaging the drum so keep it relaxed and don't try to create too much friction.

[@Jamie6029]

So far the best sticks I've used are Promark, Mike Portnoy signature 420x with activegrip. They are very durable and even when my hands start to get sweaty they have tons of grip

[@jacobthanks2672]

I almost put my eye out with a slick stick a few weeks ago.

[@joshhuders4751]

Next video: trying all different types of stacks

[@DrumeoOfficial]

Hah! This video was supposed to be 15 mins and it ended up at 1 hr. If we did stacks I think it would be longer.

[@joshhuders4751]

@@DrumeoOfficial that's true 😂😂

[@MrVoraxTranstellaris]

@@DrumeoOfficial An episode on stacks would be interesting though!

[@sleepyancient6655]

Neat video. So far I use either Vic Firth 2B or Rock sticks for practice (build strength and coordination with something bigger than I prefer playing on). But I'd definitely include some retractable brushes when I get a kit again (I only have a practice pad for now). Maybe the dowels if I found myself in a small venue or church setting. And honestly, as someone who is also figuring out making a video game, some of the special effects sticks... probably won't be something I buy, if I'm honest. I can probably find good substitutes without spending some absurd amounts of cash per few minutes of audio recording.

[@nickknight5543]

I've been using Promark 5A wood tip for 30+ years now......love them.

[@ppg19782]

Cool review on the sticks... I am learning how to play Timbales and for practice I use a heavy thicker wooden tip stick made by VIC ...very comfortable for practicing. Then I have two more sets for the actual usage on the Timbales made by VIC ...no tip...exactly the ones that you kept is a two-tone color. I have 7/16, 5/8, 1/2 inch..don't like the feeling of plastic either. The sound is too dull. Great review.. 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁👍👍👍👍👍

[@coltonmykael]

The first sticks should get a bonus rating for matching the drumset and your shirt Jared!

[@DrumeoOfficial]

Right?!

[@MrVoraxTranstellaris]

At one point Vic Firth Rock "tree trunks" were my default, haha, and I didn't even really play rock. I eventually ended up and stuck with Vater 1A. 5B will do the trick if 1A are not immediately available but I like the extra length on 1A's. I don't like sticks that are particularly light or short.

[@lj7hd403]

The boom and rumble of that bass drum is insane

[@LadyJustice838]

I have no Earthly idea how I wound up on your video, but I’m sure glad I did. This video was fascinating. I’m not a drummer. The closest thing I got to drums was back in high school. I was in the Flag Corps. in the marching band. In parade formation, the Flag Corps. was right behind the drumline (great movie, by the way lol). When practicing for the halftime shows, to save the field for game day, we’d use the back end of the Senior parking lot. We’d get into parade formation outside the band room, and march to the Senior parking lot, the drumline playing a cadence. When we were marching through the Senior parking lot, the drumline set off the car alarms. LMAO It was just so damn hilarious. At least us chicks in the Flag Corps. had to smile all the frickin’ time. So there is that. lol Anyhow, thank you so very much for the entertainment. ❤🥁❤

[@jaimesorli2436]

i fuckin love the drum set, the color and the sound...., is a good video, is crazy how much you find them in a shop.... always one go crazy....

[@prongATO]

I REALLY liked the mallet sound on the drums!

[@rnm723]

26:09 reminds me of the Drum Channel Intro !

[@geralddrums]

Very interesting sticks which I have never seen oder heard before. Great :-)

[@eliborg]

Jared’s got mad chops🔥🔥

[@chris1978nl]

25:05 great sound with the T5's!

[@J.J_6.9]

I love my 5A Neil Peart signature sticks, been using them for a few years now and they are great and light weight but I chew through them fast. Still a great pair of sticks and they are fairly cheap so I stick with them. Side note also very versatile sticks, I am able to play in different gigs with different styles and they just work.

[@sharksdelight]

The best regular drumstick I have ever used is the relatively new Diamondback Drumstick. I use a 5A but I would love it if you would try them and provide your own viewpoint. Previously I had been a beta tester and then user of the ProMark Fire stick but the #diamondbackdrumsticks are superior to any I have used. While I enjoyed the video, it seems primarily just a infomercial for Headhunters gear.

[@kappslock5354]

I started this video saying: I'm just gonna skip through and only watch the ones that look interesting... Me an hour later: Guess I have to go back and watch it all again to remember the ones I liked...

[@FharishAhmedPortfolio]

I can't believe that I just sat here and watched sticks!! lol Subscribed!!

[@Fujib4g4]

I love the clear difference of opinion coming from the post editor. He clearly said a different rating at the end of some of the later sticks, but while the timing of the overlay is still perfectly on point the value shown is not what he said.

[@acidbath3226]

my favorite are the fonald bruner jr. signature zildjians. perfect for both petal and fusion

[@SlaineReigns]

As a beginner, I haven't seen sticks like these lmao. That's awesome. EDIT: I had to replay the mallet playing, that's some epic sounds that thing could make. Oh my God.

[@ThatSwedishDrummer]

Stick creativity is endless nowadays! :D

[@TheMoneyOven]

I just watched 1hour of drum sticks... and I loved it

[@benbradley-croft427]

its 3:07 in the morning and i've never been so scared of jared beating the kit into submission with dummy thick dowels after i accidentally turned the volume all the way up

[@Glurbschnurb]

This is the type of content I love drumeo for and why I will be keeping my edge sub going even if I become a merman.

[@markdemell3717]

That sounds scary ,,ooh ,merman ,no thanks.

[@Thor962]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE how this drum set looks. What is that blue ring hanging around the lugs, under the rib

[@calebryan4467]

It’s a Bridge System. There is a video out by Peavey explaining why they made their drums the way they did. I am so happy to own one of their drumsets, they’re pretty great sounding!

[@mmmbetter55]

Pretty rare drums at this point, esp. in that color I would think

[@iancruzbarrios9254]

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[@iancruzbarrios9254]

Desde San Juan Argentina, una Peavey Radial Pro 1000, pertenece al profesor Roberto Segatti

[@dylanwbarnes]

Headhunters makes awesome stuff!They're just hard to track down.

[@mikejames-drummerreginacan1386]

GREAT VIDEO......very helpful.

[@RAG3C4T]

Man this is my favorite episode so far!

[@Loaferz]

I want more stick vids like this out there

[@xxnvytechxx6417]

What is that far right tom he has? Looks like a small vertical kick bass or maybe even a marching bass? Love the sound of it.

[@massivecumshot]

I switched to nylon Hot Rods because I too was sick of the easy breakage of the dowels. Less attack and bounce, but I'm no longer spending $300 per year on wood that lasts 2 gigs. I made some out of extra long bamboo chopsticks and their durability is superior to whatever Hot Rods uses.

[@rosejuliette9180]

I really like the soft corn ones.

[@littledrummerboyph]

As a broomstick user, I was intrigued to give the Headhunters Corn Stocks a shot to see if the feel and durability were better suited for my playing, but I can't even find that they exist anywhere but here. Being a fairly recent video, this is kind of odd.

[@Non-TypicalDrummer]

Gotta say, I love these videos. Get a good idea of some of the unique products that are available that we might not know is out there. I was however, put off a little bit by the way you played one pair of the hotrods. Intended to be a low volume set but you played them like a sledgehammer, and rated them a 4? Probably last forever if used as intended. I wouldn't put a cast iron skillet in the microwave, but I guess it can be done!

[@drummaman1]

He was just trying to put them at the word of the advertising. It looks ridiculous to play hot rod and blastick type sticks so hard, not to mention how much they cost to begin with.

[@NEALBABBITT]

Zildjian cymbal mallets are extremely durable I've had mine for years and have used them regularly. They're still in perfect condition.

[@mat4410]

One of the more unique sticks I’ve ever used…and loved…Hornet 5B. Crazy ergos and what a feel. The company is gone and I only have my one pair for dropouts. I was thinking of going over to the Amish and have them cut a few pair out. LOL

[@kamikazemelon787]

Some custom Amish sticks would be legit bro do it do it

[@JohnCrashJones]

Who is the manufacture of your blue kit here? Even the RIMS mounts are exotic looking! I love it!

[@MrJoshDrums0490]

Vater is known for durability but I swore them off because in the span of a month and a half I broke about 3 pairs of Vater 2b’s. One of them was during a Soundcheck just fresh off the sleeve… Vic for life it seems for me 🔥

[@Guds777]

My goto sticks today is any stick that is moderate thin, light and has small plastic tip. But i did use Rikki Rocketts stick from Vaters, they were awesome, i have no opinion on Rikki Rockett, but the sticks was great, and i can't understand why no one has made similar sticks...

[@putinusername]

The tubz are great to keep your brushes protected in your bag

[@JamesonDunphey]

Great vid. tons of fun to watch!! 37:59 tell me if i'm hearing things, but i swear he said 7 out of 10 lol!

[@vectorentertainment1733]

Tublitz looked like fun to move around the set with

[@brucethomson168]

The stingers are the same idea as Steve Smiths Vic Firth version, designed for very light playing with bounce.

[@headhunterssticksandcreati7334]

Hi Glad you noticed that!! I own the patent for this model. It is called Foam Core Multi-rod Drumstick. I designed it in 2004 and sold them as Stingers. I knew Steve Smith. In 2095, we were doing a clinic in Toronto at Soul Drums. Steve was into his Indian music at the time. He was performing with a tabla player, I brought the sticks, he played them and loved them. It took us several months to convince Vic to add them to the catalog. I gave Vic the exclusive rights to the design, we cancelled the contract in 2018, and they became Stingers again.

[@danieldangelo7937]

headhunters are in Burlington Ontario 20 min drive from where I live.

[@mantis6755]

35:10 when the flies won't leave you alone when your drumming.

[@kyledfk]

14:44 “flip them over… oh no no no no” 😂

[@veronicadeoliveira4837]

Hey man, what are you gonna do with the discarded sticks?

[@ogKalmari]

I watched whole video and im proud of it

[@spencerbarnes4878]

Sarah Thawer would love the jingle spring sticks

[@chrisfalcone5211]

Very nice kit sir.

[@kamikazeratte]

Very nice! And the "7 out of 10" (38:02) makes me grin... 😜

[@Spladoinkal]

Here's what I've always done while gigging: I'll keep one pair of my favorite sticks for each type of playing (my favorite 7a sticks for jazz, etc.) but for "Average" playing I'll look for those deals where it's like 50 sticks for $50 and keep a ton of the same size of cheap sticks. That way I have a pair for every occasion but I also have cheap sticks I don't care about breaking/losing.

[@Bricameron]

Longer sticks than usual has only happened to me once on a jam and I loved them immediately. Maybe one inch longer than is usual.

[@oliveoil111drums2]

Promark activegrip 5a rebound will be my stick for life

[@010aray]

Promark, active grip, 7A, 5A, 5B, all wood tip. Stick choice depends on the music.

[@jackehlers2072]

Quick question about the active grip, do they cause any blistering ot hot spots at the fulcrum? I've used ProMark grip tape, and it caused a blister. Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

[@010aray]

@@jackehlers2072 no they don't. I find the active grip treatment works really well, especially for me as I have a very light grip and used to drop sticks like it was my job.

[@jackehlers2072]

@@010aray Lol. Me too. Thank you so much!

[@jameskirkbydrums]

good video, but gotta say, that peavey radial pro kit sounds lush!!!

[@frankfertier34]

So outstanding ! I own three of these kits: one RBS 22", one pro 1000 18", one 751 22": so visceral and vibrant: one of the rare hilights in the drum pool.

[@SapaLuMa-Ta]

i love your videos jared!!!

[@isaacadams5524]

At first I was like “wow these sound so good on the drums” and then I realized that I could trip and fall so hard that my my face got molded into the head and it would still sound incredible...

[@skulleton]

....what?

[@bobbygalyon5580]

@@skulleton right? I was reading this and was just fascinated by some people's initial thoughts on things..like what on earth made this guys brain come up with that lol

[@yungpm]

@@bobbygalyon5580 drugs