Testing An Ultra Rare Apple Macintosh 128K Prototype slated for the Auction Block

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Let's take a deep dive into this special prototype Macintosh 128K and see what makes it different from the final version. Huge thanks to Beth and Rick Ross for letting me access this Mac.
Macintosh Prototype Auction Link (Ends March 16, 2023!):
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My assessment report of this prototype:
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@LGR
@LGR Жыл бұрын
I remember that original Reddit post, it’s great to see this thing working again and going up for sale! Glad that they went through you to make it happen, Steve. Perhaps I missed something, but what resolved the Sad Mac issue? Was it just the reseating of the riser board that did the trick?
@Mac84
@Mac84 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Clint! Yes, it was awesome to get a chance to inspect it and get it working again. It seemed the first ghastly Sad Mac was caused by the ROMs not being seated properly, so reseating the adapter board and using some contact cleaner seemed to have resolved that. Any Sad Mac issues after that we’re thankfully only software related, such as a bad disk image, or an incompatible boot disk.
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, very cool to see this machine hasn’t been lost to time or even worse, destroyed! Quite a unique machine, even more interesting considering just how early it is! It’s also very cool you got all of those floppies, I’m sure there’s tons of software and information on them that isn’t available anywhere else, at least until now. Great video!
@MediaWest
@MediaWest 7 ай бұрын
we had an early 128, in a hollywood recording studio. one of our techs took 4 256k memory chips, and then made 4 boards, and we had 4meg of ram! we were using it for early sound designer sampling program that allowed us to build a sound effect library, that was one of the first of this type. the mac changed the whole freaking town. i still have a se30 on a shelf.
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 2 ай бұрын
As a music producer, that’s cool!
@DemagnetizedMedia
@DemagnetizedMedia Жыл бұрын
That thing is so cool! I am so glad that that hidden gem wasn't trashed or destroyed by time!
@applemuzeumpolska
@applemuzeumpolska Жыл бұрын
I was awakened by a strong night wind and could not sleep, so I saw your video :) It was worth it! A remarkable artifact and wonderful nooks and crannies of the early days of Macintosh. It must have been an exciting moment when you started up and looked inside :) Thx for video.
@lucasRem-ku6eb
@lucasRem-ku6eb Жыл бұрын
any people visiting the apple old junk museum ?
@Mac84
@Mac84 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, it was very excited to take a look inside. I'm very happy I had the opportunity to play around with this system.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
11:06 The only drawback with that is you don’t get the lovely musical hum that the 400K drive makes. It’s so hard to find any record of that sound any more ...
@jupo42
@jupo42 Жыл бұрын
Love the archeology work, letting us see the little details that made this different from the production model. And it's fantastic that you were able to preserve software that's not been imaged before. Kudos!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video! I am bidding now !
@GarthBeagle
@GarthBeagle Жыл бұрын
Wow great job Steve! The community and Apple preservation is lucky to have you
@retrodude6215
@retrodude6215 Жыл бұрын
The only light that “Mr. Macintosh” got was in the movie called The Blank Check lol
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 2 ай бұрын
Huh?
@mindluge
@mindluge Ай бұрын
really cool. love the Mr. Macintosh anecdote. just think, maybe if that came to fruition we would have had Mr. Macintosh cartoons and video games today
@scottharvey-davies1607
@scottharvey-davies1607 Жыл бұрын
Came to your channel via Action Retro. Love the content and delivery buddy. Just killing time while I try and get a battered and semi destroyed G4/Ali 15" Powerbook back to life while next to my other immaculate G4/ali powerbook... the list of broken (and dented) bits is insane....(don't talk about the BeOS attempt) Kudos to you mate :)
@Mac84
@Mac84 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And good luck with the PowerBook!
@Canthus13
@Canthus13 Күн бұрын
RIFA caps get brittle because of the heat they're exposed to iirc. So age should have much less of an effect on something like this where it was seemingly only used for sales demos.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
14:38 I used MDS. Editor on one disk, assembler on the other, on a dual-floppy Mac Plus. Then, the following year, I got a Mac II, and I graduated to MPW, which absolutely required a hard drive. Now there was a step up in power.
@rager1969
@rager1969 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see what this sells for. It's currently at $2197, but there's almost 2 days left on the auction, so I'm sure it will go up quite a bit as the end draws near.
@TheJurassicJunkie
@TheJurassicJunkie Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thank you for preserving those pieces of history, and bravo for the original owners to step forward to enable that to happen!
@MSmith-Photography
@MSmith-Photography Жыл бұрын
That's quite awesome that you were given the opportunity to have your hands on that prototype.
@phillippereira6468
@phillippereira6468 Жыл бұрын
How odd it only sold for $16,500. Considering that a newer board alone sold for higher and like you said this is the complete package and a working one, I am surprised.
@kenboyle9905
@kenboyle9905 7 ай бұрын
I have one of these prototypes as well very similar to this one.
@jimthain8777
@jimthain8777 Жыл бұрын
About that processor and why it might be missing the Motorola name: Maybe it's a prototype chip built in house. (It would later be mass manufactured by Motorola) That would explain why there's no Motorola name on it as they weren't yet brought in to mass manufacture the chips. I vaguely remember Apple being involved with development of their chips. So a developers chip? What do you think?
@geofftottenperthcoys9944
@geofftottenperthcoys9944 Жыл бұрын
Have not use a Mac since the VERY early days, but always watch these types of vids!
@geekbabe100
@geekbabe100 Жыл бұрын
New subscriber, found you via Luke Milani ❤
@50ShadesOfBeige
@50ShadesOfBeige Жыл бұрын
Many years later Microsoft tried to introduce something similar, but we ended up with Clippie instead.
@PROSTO4Tabal
@PROSTO4Tabal Ай бұрын
Good stuff
@cjsebes
@cjsebes Жыл бұрын
You're a good egg, Steve. Nice job. I hope the owners get a huge payday with it.
@Toonrick12
@Toonrick12 Жыл бұрын
I wonder who was the person who won the auction. I really do hope they contact you to recap the system.
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 2 ай бұрын
What causes a menu chip to go bad? What changes inside it to make it stop working?
@macretro_techvintage
@macretro_techvintage Жыл бұрын
So cool this prototype !
@stpworld
@stpworld Жыл бұрын
I have a lost tape in my collection about the manufacturing of the apple 2gs.
@007knick
@007knick 7 ай бұрын
My parents had one of these and put it out for hard waste about 20 years ago. I am still mad about that
@GaiusIuliusCaesar1
@GaiusIuliusCaesar1 Жыл бұрын
I am more curious about if there are any major differences in the ROM
@dwarftoad
@dwarftoad Жыл бұрын
Hey did you explain the numbers written on the boards? Or did I miss something?
@Mac84
@Mac84 Жыл бұрын
The numbers written on the boards were also apparent in the other auction. Therefore we could determine that this board “C023” was produced much earlier than the other Sotheby’s auction “C296”.
@codys4668
@codys4668 Жыл бұрын
Very cool 😎
@duringthemeanwhilst
@duringthemeanwhilst Жыл бұрын
amazing vide - really enjoyed 🙂 i'd love for those feet to make a comeback on a MBP or MBA some day
@Kyle-xv5kv
@Kyle-xv5kv Жыл бұрын
Selling for $16,500 that's crazy money! I hope whoever got it is going to post more of it and not stick it on a shelf :(
@Mac84
@Mac84 Жыл бұрын
I hope so too! Especially since those analog board caps need replacing
@user-ss7xs9jx5n
@user-ss7xs9jx5n 8 ай бұрын
Like this upload...
@8BitRetroJournal
@8BitRetroJournal Жыл бұрын
It's only at $2200...maybe the auction should be longer...
@sbrazenor2
@sbrazenor2 Жыл бұрын
The last day or so; sometimes the last hour is where all the action happens. I usually snipe-bid. I'll come up with a price in my head that works for me and then fire it off with like 8 seconds left. If I win, I win; if not, I'm ok with it. The value I put in is what I'm willing to pay and the bid increments will not always require all of it, so I can get it cheaper with luck. If you bid early and increase the volume of bids, people will drive up the price.
@8BitRetroJournal
@8BitRetroJournal Жыл бұрын
​@@sbrazenor2 That's a pretty common strategy for a buyer. For this item, I would have listed it at a high buy-it-now price, let it sit for a while, and give make-offer option. Didn't a newer motherboard-only go for $20K? If so, then if this doesn't go for at least twice that it would be a shame.
@sbrazenor2
@sbrazenor2 Жыл бұрын
@@8BitRetroJournal they have a 'value' listed of like $12K. They might have a reserve on it, in case the bids are too low.
@8BitRetroJournal
@8BitRetroJournal Жыл бұрын
@@sbrazenor2 didn't see the reserve...that would be good to have.
@yorgle
@yorgle Жыл бұрын
Were the ROMs in it different from the retail 128k?
@mojoblues66
@mojoblues66 Жыл бұрын
Did you dump the ROMs?
@darkwinter6028
@darkwinter6028 Жыл бұрын
It looks like there’s a Motorola logo on the 68000?
@Mac84
@Mac84 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there is. My point being that it wasn't distinctly labeled as a 68000 chip yet. Although it obviously is, otherwise the system wouldn't work with the ROM and software.
@robertbuechel6394
@robertbuechel6394 Жыл бұрын
😂
@anidnmeno
@anidnmeno Жыл бұрын
anybody got twenty-five hundred dollars i ca hold rq?
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