Testing EVERY LANDSHIP in 25v25 TOURNAMENT - AI Same Skill Level, Which Is Best? - WAR THUNDER

[@Bryce-yw8hf]

If your wondering why the regular T-28 is higher BR than the T-28 (1938), its because it has higher pen, it just happnes in a battle like this that the higher pen didnt really matter that much when facing another T-28 which doesnt have armor

[@user-bm9ln6wl8r]

aight then how do I use T-28(1938) it can’t pen a panzer 4 but the T-28 can?

[@Gunga_FAB.50]

⁠@@user-bm9ln6wl8rits pretty garbage. some things you just can’t pen from the front. try to flank or aim at the side of turrets

[@triplus198]

​@@user-bm9ln6wl8rshoot on the side specifically in the gap between the roadwheels and track

[@MM10567]

the SMK has a shell that can pen 94mm,tog frontal armor is 101mm thick

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I wonder how it killed one

[@WPope]

I assume diagonally through the side @@ThunderWithMuffin

[@inkycat7167]

Yeah that’d do it, if War thunder has taught me anything, anything goes, even when your shell should’ve bounced right off ​@@WPope

[@quentintin1]

with the great war kit the TOG II has a 76mm weakspot on the frontal plate, additionally, while the front is 126mm, the turret sides are "just" 84mm, so if it can catch it at the right angle, it can go through and since it's a soviet APHE, it just need to penetrate once

[@Huewar]

Sorry

[@rudatkatzn9171]

The NB.Fz.s Disadvantage there was not being able to move, it's paper. Additionally, the extra turrets of the T-28 works as spaced armor, the Neubaufahrzeug only has a low pen APHE and a Heat. Although I'd normally put my money on the Nb.Fz. it's my favorite tank

[@lordterra1377]

Got 23 kills with it once. That double gun really throws people off. The APHE is good enough to explode most people but sometimes you need a few of solid shot for annoying uptiers. Overall the heat is okay if you hit the right spots.

[@tigerbesteverything]

overpressure was the decisive factor. If the nbfz had their heat, they would have been fairing better.

[@rudatkatzn9171]

@@lordterra1377 I play Heat only for the pen

[@memeboy8207]

Hell yeah, dreams come true, and this time for all, have to say the ro-go match was unexpected.

[@LavaFrog12]

Something funny is that the tech tree 2C has more explosive filler in its APHE than the IS-2

[@liambell708]

The 2C Bis creates so much spall inside the other tank even though it cannot pen. The G6 go along the same line, it can only pen 63mm (if I remember right) but can kill Panthers

[@ammartinplays]

its called overpressure, not spall

[@trueweapon2349]

It hits the turret and goes through the roof of the hull.

[@gavinjenkins899]

No, it does pen, it pens the roof armor. HE does no spall if it doesn't pen

[@SirMikato]

to be honest i think that the events with players where better cause there is just so much more that can go wrong or good

[@trueweapon2349]

I dislike this style so much.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Oh interesting and thanks for letting me know. I’ve mainly been doing these with AI because when I had tried doing an event with these vehicles in the past people just didn’t have them or enough to do an event.

[@SirMikato]

@@ThunderWithMuffin since if played a little more know i maybe am able to take part in an event but its worth the try it doent even need to be that big if its not many people maybe just a 6v6 or something cause 100vs100 or something is funny but a something like a 6v6 is more oriented and Concentrated

[@SirMikato]

@@trueweapon2349 the ai or player against player?

[@trueweapon2349]

@@SirMikato obviously the AI, I want player vs player. It is so sad that something I waited for a long time is made with AI instead of an actual match.

[@bricklingtonlego]

The Independent+Nbfz is definitely the worst but if it wasn't for its design, most of these others wouldn't exist. Ones like the T-35, T-28 and Ro-Go were heavily inspired on the Independent's design with a trend of multi turreted tanks lasting throughout the 20's and 30's. Tog II is absolutely the best Landship by far. Best gun and armour. Though irl, it wouldn't be very effective. Too obsolete and expensive.

[@AjEdw]

TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG TOG 😂 GREAT VIDEO MUFFIN!

[@rayhill1]

and there's 2 2C’s left to be added. Man, I love land ships.

[@nineonine9082]

Champagne and ?

[@rayhill1]

@@nineonine9082 Lets call it an "early variant" with 30mm of frontal armor. Could be foldered with the tech tree 2C at 2.0 or even 1.7 like the premium bis.

[@unepersonne3320]

@@nineonine9082 champagne is already in the game its the 2cbis and for the other one there is the normandie with 90mm front 60mm side named 2c surblindé

[@nineonine9082]

@@unepersonne3320 My bad

[@Tigerpanzer6666]

dam now im curious on what would happen if civil war tactics where used with tanks

[@MrBusch90]

Fun fact about the C2 Bis it can pin and kill high tier tanks and that if you have the shell land on a sweet spot of the enemy tank (this will vary from what tank it faces.)

[@mrdestructoo]

Is the char 2c with 2 turrets can be a land ship, shouldn’t the grizzly be a land ship too?

[@memeboy8207]

It smol

[@V13per]

No land ships have thick armor

[@gfoog3911]

@@V13per Some land ships have thick armor

[@Kokangalang]

It’s the largest tank in the game, so I think it deserves the title of land ship. It also should have 4 machine guns instead of 2 as the two on the side just don’t work for some reason.

[@palher2811]

My first time seeing all the land ship in one area

[@KiRiTO72987]

2C Bis can one shot top tier MBTs its so hilarious when they rage about it

[@nineonine9082]

2C Bis ultimate counter to the tog as well.

[@sometripod5630]

The M4A1 76 works good as well against the tog

[@tomasmisek5598]

​@@nineonine9082i'd say the ultimate TOG counter is bombs. Panther D is good too though

[@Rich77UK]

I have to admit. I always have a great laugh in the Char 2C. Sometimes its not good enough to pen say the Churchill gun carriage but i normally have a good game (not always the best results but i always enjoy it).

[@TheAdmirableAdmiral]

I always just go for cap in the Char 2C and laugh when 3 enemy tanks surround me and can't kill me

[@Mystic-Midnight]

feel like Ka-Chi should've been included because its sheer size with the floats

[@gavinjenkins899]

It was

[@tsuaririndoku]

But where is the mighty TOG? It is also considered as a Landship in Jingle’s perspective

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

It’s in there towards the end

[@sillyous1]

now what would be interesting would be if you made a budget and compared how much you could get for that budget to determine the most effective

[@JonathanShirey-jk6iq]

Tog 2 rains supreme

[@unbeardedwizard2912]

Proof that if you wanna make a landship, fill it with the most bodies possible.

[@bobolikewwii24]

How did you get the tank testing field at 5:05 ?

[@Musafir09945]

I didnt expect the ro-go to win. I have it and its a monster

[@Th3chickenhunter273]

Is the b1 and Maus a big land ship and you should do the biggest Millimeter tank fight each other

[@noahsawesomevids422]

Lol cool 😎 can you do a multi turret tournament? But actual players

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

Good idea on using a helicopter to overview the battle

[@averageb21enthusiast-ex5gk]

Can you do a tutorial on how these custom custom battles work?

[@RevyTempest6]

Why not doing CEV VS AVRE bot

[@untitled2875]

How do you get bots to use MGs and secondary guns?

[@pawelch9536]

How do you make custom ai battles like that?

[@tonijohnson1290]

Lets be honest, we all new the T28 stood no chance against c2 bis.

[@joshkutz3840]

curious you think results would be different if it were players and movement was allowed? flanking shots would kill tog for the smk

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

With AI it’s nice because different skill levels are not involved but with players it’s nice because you get to see the vehicle to its full abilities. I’d say it would change the results a little on some like the T-28’s maneuverability was better then the those it was compared but other I don’t think the results would have been very different.

[@trueweapon2349]

@@ThunderWithMuffin2C bis could reverse back to cover - could be covered by its teammates etc. I think you should re-do the test with real players. Even if the result doesn't change it will be way more interesting.

[@tomburgess8545]

British tanks doing what british tanks do best failing

[@Combat_Dummi]

Centurion wasn’t that bad

[@Goddamndan200]

​@@Combat_DummiCenturion wasnt bad

[@gavinjenkins899]

A british tank won the whole tournament in this video, ya muppet

[@Dom1xel]

YES HE LISTENED TO ME!!!

[@gavinjenkins899]

The T-28 (NOT 1938, the 1.7 oe) has a vastly better gun than the lower BR T-28. It has almost like double the penetration or something.

[@michaelcunningham9668]

can u do togs VS tigers or togs VS a army of m22s

[@jlawsl]

If we are counting large crew, 2 cannons in weird placement/turrets and at least 1 machine gun turret, wouldn't that make the Lee a land ship? Its pretty much the same as the SMK, Same crew, 9 inches taller, 7 inches skinnier and 2 feet shorter. They both have 7 crew, a 37mm, a 75mm and multiple 7.62mm guns. The Lee is 5 tons heavier but has better armor and speed.

[@champroyale5018]

How do you measure in feet if my foot is larger then yours?

[@gavinjenkins899]

@@champroyale5018 How do you measure in meters if my meter is larger than yours?

[@Void_SSneaky]

How do you make those events and stuff with AI would love to know

[@hitrolika]

same

[@stuffzie8329]

Where the maus :

[@flaresgaming7432]

GERMAN SCRAPMOBILE FOR LIFE (im talkin about the aloutte)

[@christoperrobin-rh6sg]

TOGGERS TOGGERS TOGGERS TOGGERS

[@F16-A-ADF]

I joined your discord but got banned for 1 year for being 12 but I also have birthday in 2 weeks :(

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

What’s your username?

[@F16-A-ADF]

StormN11. (with the . )@@ThunderWithMuffin

[@charmaineolsen]

please do this next derp tanks vs battleships please do this video idea

[@Borlacyu]

Can you do same whit t34 vs pz4 or m4 sherman vs tiger 1 , it will be funny

[@notazombie...notatall8577]

This is like WW1 colorized 😂 The poor independent 😭 the armor it's not the worse armor, but it's the worse configuration, and the gun is not so great also... But i think the independent and the Nbfz are the worst landships in survivability

[@jurassicdominic8030]

Where is Italy’s land chip?

[@Sleyzer556]

Where was the t-35

[@Sleyzer556]

My brain died and didn’t see it

[@magicsboi9951]

Tog2?

[@hansvonflammenwerfer2817]

Its not available rn

[@Zeni1003]

how dose he spawn these bots

[@DornyWorny]

TOG

[@DornyWorny]

VARK

[@asillylildude]

PUMA

[@asillylildude]

HERMAN THE GERMAN SHERMAN

[@GRIMACE.983]

Hi

[@1Javkush]

not the first :(

[@Interweblurker]

Poor independents.

[@trainguy2155]

5th :)

[@o08Arthur80o]

French🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🥖🥖🥖⚜️⚜️⚜️🗿🗿🗿

[@viktorsmailov8917]

Actually f*** this movie why would they do that making me very very angry