War Thunder Countries Tierlist

[@Not_honest_enough]

Three and a half weeks to get to top tier USSR? More like three and a half years 💀

[@thegreenlandicgamer]

Atleast three and a half weeks :D

[@Not_honest_enough]

@@thegreenlandicgamer if you sell your soul and mental stability yes😂

[@SCPFoundationist]

@@thegreenlandicgamer You're right I played about 9 hours on USSR tech tree and I am at 4.0 BR Yes, I play only arcade, I get more points in arcade than in realistic battles

[@mentally-stable-human]

​@@thegreenlandicgamer as a person who never had a premium accout or premium vehicles. Nah bro i don't want to hear that shit. It tookme almost 2 years to partially reach 12.0 br in USSR

[@Flydarkside06]

You can only achieve it with skill I have been playing for 3 years and I still haven’t even reached 6.0

[@Pilzmeister]

Bro confused weeks with years 💀☠️

[@SCPFoundationist]

Nah, I got to BR 4.0 in 9 hours

[@alexismunoz2822]

Cap ​@@SCPFoundationist

[@SCPFoundationist]

@@alexismunoz2822 Of continuous non-stop grind (only arcade, air battles)

[@KrangusCZ]

@@SCPFoundationist now do it again go from 4.0 to 8.0 and tell me how fast was it XD you have no idea

[@SCPFoundationist]

@@KrangusCZ Okay, bet

[@leobramrock8933]

It was Japan bias all along.

[@risingsun37]

japan bias based

[@ClownAsleep]

Best countries are Italy France and Japan

[@familyjobe853]

*sweden entered the chat

[@risingsun37]

japan wwii late war prototypes were insane

[@familyjobe853]

@@risingsun37 sadly aime of them are fake like the big heavy tank destroyer

[@ezwins7971]

There is no way a new player without premium could get to the top of the us tech tree in a month. I am a very good player and it took me about 25 days to get the Israeli tech tree researched, idk where you got that number from but I doubt even a veteran player spending 6 hours a day could research to the top of the us tech tree in a month without premium...

[@okcoolbro7971]

i am only playing wyvern with premium account whilst not beeing good and its nowhere enough time. It takes ages

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

I’ve played for 120 hours (about 2/3 of that with premium) only on the US and I’m only halfway through tier IV

[@justahyena8869]

His Germany estimate for air is way off too, it seems he ignores at every level of jets, Germany is behind and struggles compared to what they're up against

[@kevito05lp44]

@@Iden_in_the_Rainim 400 hours f2p and finished with Tier 4

[@AdaaDK]

@@okcoolbro7971 Get good, farming with a prem plane is rather ez. Few things to note, 1. get score/kills/asisst/ground hits -> Land/rearm/suvive -> Repeat, if you mannage this and have a positive W/R highest posible of course, getting 15k+ exp per game shouldnt be hard, esp considering how op the wywern is for its BR. Main focus here is suvival and winning matches + the landing part. Since landing provides you about 50% extra score of the calgulated points you obtained before the landing, and suvival adds anorther 5-10% on top. + winning is about 50% bonus RP too if i recall correctly.

[@Upsidedowndog27]

Bro thinks everyone is a war thunder god… 3 weeks to hit Germany top tier??? Tf am I doing? Getting 10 kills a game?

[@voweee]

get better bro im top tier sweden air in 2.5 weeks

[@bentleyhaney]

U just have no life 😂😂😂​@@voweee

[@Whereami442]

@@voweeeget a life

[@medos9854]

If you know how he plays French tanks, we're a real threat. But for that you must first succeed in overcoming the low tier, I think that's what scares many beginners. France has many unique tanks that set it apart from other nations.

[@thegreenlandicgamer]

They do indeed, but not many that a new player would be much eager to get.

[@Idontknowlol595]

@@thegreenlandicgamerdo you think mobile port will get mbts I mean yeah it’s kinda intense I just wanna see more content like jets and shit

[@egg3666]

I would say the state of low tier France is leagues better then it used to be. The amc 35 is not a bad car at all and you get a lot of good vehicles. only real issue is most guns at that no tier(reserve) gets either explosive filler or larger shells. I'm with you though that for a new player its def not a beginner friendly nation.

[@ClownAsleep]

@@thegreenlandicgamer that's gaijin fault France is mainly played by veterans or French people like me. The consequence are high stats on vehicles that are average and get nerfed because the snail hate good stats on French vehicles

[@R1FB]

​@@thegreenlandicgamerlil fact : the israeli kfir is just a mirage renamed

[@tiborszabo981]

took me over 7 years(with breaks) to research full soviet ground tree, half of soviet air tree, half american ground, 70% german ground and all other would be from 0-20% researched. Took me 6 years without premium and one year of premium. I also used real money to help me alot. I also bought some premium vehicles to hellp me grind. there is no way one would research ANY tree in a month. Its literally impossible

[@Adam_warthundergrinder]

It took me 1 month and a half the get to 5.7 with ussr with breaks and no premium

[@tiborszabo981]

@@Adam_warthundergrinder getting to 5.7 is managable. But going higher is hard

[@Adam_warthundergrinder]

@@tiborszabo981 ik bro

[@novemberoncrack]

grinded italy air in 14 days with only premium account and swedish air in 5 days with premium account and premium J35XS

[@p0ssive]

i got sweden 12.7 in a month with premium

[@jov_9658]

"Its most likely take atleast a month to get to top tier" Me who stuck in tier 2 U.S Air tech tree for 6 months:

[@rogercop9229]

For real 💀

[@sideways6087]

skill issue

[@Jackizz]

How is it possible to get it in ONE MONTH

[@skye_music]

@@Jackizz So I calculated it would take 62 days if you were playing non stop 15 minute matches and making an average RP of 1100. Which is horrible nobody got that much time. 1100 rp because I suck at Air battles

[@ARCrusader]

@@skye_music At T1 I'm making about 1300RP per battle in the airforce without premium modifier. I do imagine this speeds up a little at the higher ranks as there appears to be a modifier for more research on the higher tier vehicles. I'm seeing a few reddit posts that it's not uncommon to see 6-7k RP per match at higher BRs, but I imagine one needs consistently great matches to make the math work.

[@MrAaDdRr]

Another criteria for this tierlist should be the amount of easy/enjoyable vehicles each tech tree offers. These vehicles are considered nearly OP, easy to learn etc. This way new players can use and abuse em for research grinding and silver farming. Also the higher BR the vehicle is, is a plus as higher tiers tend to get grindy

[@dominuslogik484]

I feel like those Heat maps really just proved that the big 3 US, USSR and Germany are played by the most players and so they have really low win rates lol. there is no way that Russia is actually bad in the 2.7 - 6.3 range as those are some of the most ridiculously easy to play vehicles of any tree with Solid armor, reliable guns and APHE pretty much guaranteed to one-shot everything in their BR ranges.

[@Iamyolomonkey-ed2gh]

M22, the Swedish reserve tanks (they have sabot rounds), etc

[@Tooslw]

Great video but I don’t think anyone is going to get to top tier in three weeks or a month

[@CrazySummerDude]

Fr

[@TheFatDwarfHugo]

I got to sweden top tier in 3 days with prem and a prem tank. all you have to do i throw money at gaijin xD btw i do not recommend it, at the end i was so dead inside.

[@user625FNDA]

Yes, you can.

[@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL]

@@user625FNDAdont make enough silver lions

[@mfw9902]

​@@TheFatDwarfHugo3 days biggest pile of bs I've read in a month

[@sasin2715]

bros calculating the RP thinking everyone gets 10 kills per game

[@da_chimken]

I'm debating building a PC to play wt, what nations should I grind, any affordable premiums worth it?

[@AnotherHaloGamer]

@@da_chimkenground or air?

[@AnotherHaloGamer]

@@da_chimkenww2, Cold War, or modern? What era do you want to play

[@Oreotheprogamer]

@@da_chimken wt dosent really need that good of a pc tho (unless ure talking about having no pc)

[@uncreativename8526]

​@@AnotherHaloGamerww2 ground

[@KhanGirey]

I think general winrate is a bad way to conduct any sort of analysis because it is often offset by sales of premium vehicles. The Soviet winrate tanked after the Turms came out. Another thing of note, is that if you look at Japan, 10.0 for ground RB simply doesn't exist. (there is a black hole of 9.3 to 11.0) The winrates are more indicative of what nations Japan gets placed alongside with. Similarly, it is important to think about what lineups you can get for what battle ratings. Japan has 4 vehicles higher than 10.0, all of them being MBTs. Russia, has at least 16.

[@brunocardoso6641]

tbh it also very sketch winrates because 8.7 has the object 279 its not op but its very good anyone who plays it normally are pro players and get tons of kills same with the turms

[@Землекопсадовод]

Problem with soviet lineups is that they are quite not good™, cuz t72 lane is pepe popo tier except t90/72b3. T 80 are good, but if you don't count squadron veh, there are only 3 of them, and 80b is clearly don't match even 10.0 of other major nations. 2s25 is alright, you get t72 gun with good mobility, but you are litteraly a glass canon. Than there is cursed atgm, and there are Pantsir, which is completely not busted™. But before pantsir every other country exept sov and sweden has a IR AAA with interference prot, so it depends.

[@Землекопсадовод]

I hope that my english was at least readable, have a good day, random stranger.❤

[@MagnusMage]

This tierlist is just bad overall, Japan is one of the worst nations you can play, and will just make any noob quit the game for good(if they play ground or get far enough to use jets) not only that Japan has no good SPAA. France has bad early game but some of the strongest lineups are french ground and mirage's are okay with magic 2's. Russia and Usa should both be S tier because they are always gonna get everything first while others gets stuff last. Sweden and Britain are the Only A tiers imo, Sweden has some really strong lineups, and Britain is slowly getting better, Italy got a little bump with the Hungarian tree so ill give them a B, Germany gets a B because they are constantly being nerfed(See tiger uptiered changes recently) China ill put them in a C along with Israel, China has a good aviation and some good light vehicles but the main tanks suffer like soviet tanks with bad reverse speed and in chinas case worse armor, Israel is a C due to not having much variety in ground, the air tree has some decent planes and a unique F16d variant

[@kaijuslayer3334]

@@MagnusMageJapan’s is overhyped in terms of it being a horrible nation. Its navy and air are both very capable compared to other nations, and their ground forces only has a iffy start in reserve but once you get the ball rolling and know what vehicles to get, its not that bad. Especially when despite their poor armor, it’s also just as common to find the trend of very good guns in the Japanese tech tree. And once you get to mid and high tier, they regularly can keep up with other nations.

[@rafaelleal5337]

Love how bro pulls data and top tier times from deep in his ass and then rates em based on that😂

[@bobstalong]

Fr what a shitty tier list

[@daidaifunk]

USA : 0:43 Germany : 3:35 USSR : 5:08 UK : 6:46 Japan : 8:06 China : 9:30 Italy : 10:49 France : 12:03 Sweden : 13:33 Israel : 14:48

[@sargaa8471]

if only every tierlist video had a dude like you

[@daidaifunk]

@@sargaa8471😜🤫🤑🤑🤑

[@__Average-Guy__]

Thanks dude!

[@daidaifunk]

@@__Average-Guy__ 🤑🤑🤑🤧😕🥱🤪🤮

[@FishFlys]

i wouldnt mind a 20mm tierlist for the aircraft cannons in game (ie shvaks, anm2, M3, MG151, etc.)

[@lonemarkkingoftypos3722]

Include real shatter changes too. 20mm Ho-5 which is considered one of the worst 20mm for Air just became great.

[@sideways6087]

i doesnt make sence to make this video cause gaijin change the damage of the guns 67 times every day

[@cherrymolotov]

⁠@@lonemarkkingoftypos3722the japanese 20mm type 99 mod. 2 on the A6M5 is such a wonderful weapon against fighters

[@satriabagaskara4198]

minengechoss go brr...

[@sweatybotfn9982]

Personally chinese tech tree is the best because you work a little to grind the early tiers but after that the tech tree has some of the best top tier experience ever. Plus you get to play and try a bit of everything in a single tech tree from mid tier

[@RichardMontgomeryYT]

Having played Sweden and Britain Air arcade before it, China is the best of the 3 imo.

[@FilHor]

Yeah but you have to play as China. That's the real reason why the Chinese tech tree sucks.

[@sweatybotfn9982]

@@FilHor I don’t see anything wrong

[@ArchVile98]

What you forgot to mention is that a new player must reach rank 4 in one other nation before they can jump to Israel for both air and ground. For ground you need to have a rank 4 vehicle unlocked and bought from either USA, UK, USSR or France (one of the nations is enough) and for air you need a vehicle from either USA, UK or France (no USSR since they didn't capture aircraft). So that is very variable since there's a different amount of vehicles in the nations from above from rank 1 to rank 4 and then you add the 20 vehicles needed.

[@rohanpreis6883]

As an Italy main it makes me sad that Italy got 10/20 but China got 11/20

[@Travgard]

Yes, but on the tierlist France got F tier 💀

[@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL]

Italy is a w nation

[@MCH-23.Quintus]

​@@TravgardEven tho french military vehicles irl are way better than italians ones..

[@Humphree]

Well as someone who has top tier in both I can confirm china is more fun and better

[@rohanpreis6883]

@@Humphree Well of course because they have the broken unbalanced ZTZ tanks or whatever lol

[@bananko8018]

I've played as the USA, USSR, China, Japan and France. France was the best for me. I think it is just a bit underrated, but I understand why people wouldn't play it.

[@Sprutky]

I bought the sherman Prem and haven't played it since sadly because I want to grind out Russia first. But I think I am going to enjoy France. Well once I get out of low tier at least

[@monfortnicolas5448]

@@Sprutky S35 and D2 are monsters. Just angle ank keep your distyance a bit, the gun while not the best has enough punch to go through your opponent but they wont be able to go through you

[@Mikey-yk5hj]

Ussr and USA Bias is starting to get annoying.

[@Enrico_Pucci52]

German main

[@NYXFLAR]

Yes

[@BagPiper02]

As a German main, I get why some people are frustrated, but we're at the point now in WT where the US and Russia have so many vehicles while other nations don't. For the time being its a matter of giving the US and Russia their respectable vehicles, and then having to come up with something for the other nations because their next vehicles would be way too strong/advanced, nations such as Britain, Sweden, Germany, etc. TLDR: All the other nations are stuck with copy/paste until the US/Russia catch up with the other nations' best tech.

[@F-16Viper72]

German bias

[@VVIIX123]

Usa bias? Never saw that as usa main. Always getting one shot . But not jumbo😅

[@user-do7qk3dv9e]

French native vehicle that i think could be considered as legendary : Somua 35 (1.3), Renault 35 (1.3), Panhard 35 (A.M.D 35 reserve) B1 bis, 2C, VAB, VCBI 2, Leclerc, AMX 30, AMX 50, AMX 13 (one of the first tanks made after the liberation) Morane-Saulnier 406 (2.0) Potez 633 (1.3), Dewoitine 520, Marcel Bloc 157 (3.3), Farman 222.2 / NC 223 (upgraded version) -> The first plane that bombed Berlin, Mirage III, Mirage F1C, Mirage 2000 (C, 5F, D-R1 included), Tiger (HAP and HAD included) So i consider France has 21 legendary planes. (mainly known in France for most but this is my opinion)

[@staszekr03]

Overall just a bad tierlist. It should have been based off uniqueness and fun to play. China is just skip, France, UK, Sweden should be moved up to A USA goes down to C or D as you can experience most the tech tree in other tech trees. Israel goes to D

[@topace1038]

@@staszekr03France is not A tier stop the cap. Maybe in air yes but that early French grind until the B1 Bis and C1 is honestly one of the worst. B tier at best C tier realistically.

[@imalpha6026]

​@@topace1038 bro you are acting like reaching br 2.3 takes more than a couple of battles to reach , chill.

[@topace1038]

@@imalpha6026 Still France and the UK being above the US is just objectively a bad take. Especially the UK. UK tanks suck badly. Say what you will about France at least it gets better. British tanks with only solid shot are painful to play. Sweden/USA/France/Italy/Britain/Japan/China is the best order.

[@jumpvelocity3953]

Yeah, definitely not accurate. I think most military buffs would know more about their own country than the average military buff does.

[@X3X_cro]

As an German i am very disappointed,the cyber Pretzel will hurt you today

[@Isaacthegamer123]

Sherman firefly is a British vehicle which had to be modified to fit the big gun. I would call it a British legendary vehicle, but sadly the chasse American.

[@TheJimyyy]

What make the fire fly the fire fly is the brithish gun they slap on it , so is mosly brithish yes

[@dixievfd55]

And there is a uniquely French Sherman, too.

[@theonlypotato7064]

Do a most fun countries tier list. Because the US tech tree has 6 shermans in a row with minor upgrades fixing obvious weakspots to replace them with a different one until the tank can get center of massed. And yes the Abrams is good but getting to top tier is more boring than golf. I think that is more important that how OP countries are.

[@EramisMaus]

As a Swedish player im glad we had the best heat maps. BUT sad we only ranked high b tier bc of less legendary vehicles.

[@janvanderbusse2629]

Is Sweden worth grinding, Ground and Air?

[@stpplayz2322]

Ya it's pretty fun@@janvanderbusse2629

[@EramisMaus]

@@janvanderbusse2629 In my opinion yes, at first it may be hard for low tier tanks but once you make it to the death wedges you'll be good. For aviation high tier may be a little more difficult but once you get either the viggen or draken you'll be good.

[@SkiddyOcean117]

Israel may seem like a skip tier but its really good for people that want to play a combination of US UK and France with better weapons but don't want to go through all 3 countries just to get to higher tiers.

[@FishFlys]

I think the value of french legendary vehicles is slightly higher because they are a bit rarer to see around, so i would have personally considered france c or d but i understand 😢

[@ClownAsleep]

On ground there are all variants of the amx 13, the amx 30, the leclerc, the amx 10rc, the b1, the h39, arl44... On air the ms410, mystères, mirages, vautour, étendards... Helic: tiger, alouette and gazelles That's more than 9

[@raskzak3313]

France is just so underrated to me, low tier France is great, you just have so much survivability, and bad guns can still perform well at those br plus, there's tank like the bi1 bis and the somua that are just the hell of a tank at their respective br France is not a bad nation, it's just that most people don't know how to play it

[@Snaox]

@@raskzak3313 France is the hardest nation to master, but when you know how to play it, I saw people doing magic with it

[@raskzak3313]

@@Snaox flanking tigers with the EBR was gold starting at 5.3 you start to either get great speed or great fire power, starting at 7.3, you get basically both + high reload speed killing 5 tanks one by one while their distracted or turns their turrets feels great

[@botiignacz2916]

As a France main, i gotta agree. @@Snaox

[@iWhiteout]

It should probably be stated though that, assuming this video is meant to target someone who’s basically new to the game, countries with larger tech trees such as the US, the grind is certainly much larger/longer than other countries but this can also be a somewhat of a good thing depending on how you wanna look at it. If you’re newer to the game and wanna grind out the air tree without using a premium vehicle, I’d assume they would end up spading (getting all mods) for each new plane they unlock and as you climb BR’s and get new planes you’ll find opportunities to utilize newer weapon mods and systems to not only get comfy with but also learn more aspects of gameplay for say air RB which will prove to be useful experience later on when they are ready to move to a different tech tree to begin grinding

[@CheeseVRC]

There is no way you can get away with telling noobs it will take them only a month to get to top tier. no way.

[@Math_video]

For France, the red point in tank are completely normal at at the higher tier (9.3-10.3) cause there is basically no French tank

[@eQui253]

I want to add that low tier germany does have some very strong tanks. The win rate is just not as good as the others because many new players dream of their infamous Tiger .. They start with germany and get stomped because they don't know how to play(we all know and love our most aware german mains). They get their Tiger eventually and get stomped again. (Or they google what they are doing wrong and switch to the panther)

[@josjas7025]

For me all Swedish vehicles are legendary!

[@cherrymolotov]

sweden tree has some of the most insane tanks in the game, starting from their reserve tanks with apds, the L-62, delat torn, among others

[@ProMakesVideos]

5:11 SU is the biggest tech tree in war thunder. with that, also having the most vehicles.

[@calypso-game]

I was surprised by the heat map of the low tier Italians, i main Italy and I had zero issues in the low tiers wonder what caused it to be so red

[@ironcell26]

yeah me too, i for a long time wacked everything with all the low tier italian vehicles, especially the tanks by angling them at range they can tank and bounce so many rounds and every penetration usually results in a kill with their APHE

[@TheOnlyMusty]

You are just good at the game. The average player is not. But it may not just be italy's fault. Only A handfull of italian vehicles are in a match since there are not a lot of italian players and italy is usually paired another country (Usually germany).

[@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL]

@@ironcell26Italian 2.3 m42 laughing in 300 kg exsplosive mass

[@zauce1627]

Started playing warthunder about 5 months ago and i'm an ussr player but the no gun depression caused me so much pain in the game💀💀

[@ar0568]

When I started WT i played British so I didnt have any depression issues at all but the lack of explosive filler made me wanna kms I had 10 assists but only one kill in a game once

[@zauce1627]

ahh yep low tier british is painful :( @@ar0568

[@e-5069]

The russian tank are just top happy to have any depression.

[@zauce1627]

for real dude@@e-5069

[@henrypodd3461]

Hope you keep making longform content this was a great video

[@CCP-Lies]

I really like China tech tree. It's like if you want to play America but you also wanted some Soviet vehicles. Good tech tree

[@iidoughnutholes3087]

“Takes around 2 1/2 weeks to get to top tier” I’ve played this game for four years and I’m not even rank 5 in Germany’s air tree yet

[@dixievfd55]

You forgot that you have to already have reached tier V in another nation to start Israel. Post war France is well known for two things, their fighters and their air defense systems. For a while France was exporting aircraft as hard as the Soviet Union and the United States. Their Mirages influenced the designs of the Kfir and the Viggen.

[@Online28_JStr78]

Everyone just thinks about the legendary vehicles, pen and armor of those vehicles. Thank goodness for the ‘general’ rankings

[@imperialwyvern]

1. 0:43 USA 2. 3:35 Germany 3. 5:10 USSR/Russia 4. 6:46 Great Britain 5. 8:06 Japan 6. 9:32 China 7. 10:50 Italy 8. 12:03 France 9. 13:32 Sweden 10. 14:51 Israel Here are some time stamps for people that need them.

[@8vantor8]

"it will take at least a month to reach top tier in the US tech tree" me with 750 hours in the game: that's where your wrong jimbo

[@pm_b3017]

USSR should be S tier because of 10.0 Premium line up

[@Reee11]

Fr even irl that region high tier tank can't do anything against rpg 🗿

[@tothmatyas2177]

Not a bad video actually lovely. This I mean as constructive criticism. 1. Except for the tryhards no one will play daily for 3-4h 2. Let us be straight no one will grind out a tech tree in 3 weeks. I (with premium bf 109 w/o premium time) grinded out the US tech tree to 1 11.0 jet in 1+ plus 3. The native vehicles. I think there are 2 types of players. The first who know why are they coming (T-34; tiger......) and the ones that either never heard one fighter or tank or maybe one or two. so ok for example if I am coming for the F16 (strictly) I wont really care about the M4 or the F4U..... so I think this should be a factor 4. Other factors: I think some *really* important things were left out. For tanks lineups for aircraft great fighters for every BR/rank; premiums are important too . 5. The heatmaps are really a unique idea but to be fair some players will be better than others. If someone is really great heat maps don't really matter to them for others maybe more This is *only* my opinion but UK what if do you want to rank them as native vehicles you i am happy for you.

[@thegreenlandicgamer]

Yes, I can see what you mean. I could've indeed included a lot more stuff to determine where the countries should sit. I will keep this in mind for my next video, thank you very much for your constructive critism!

[@KingCrumBum]

I juuuust started streaming WT and my first fan recommended this page. GLAD he did!

[@skylordmax7108]

Keep in mind when it comes to win rate not to take it at face value. A popular high BR premium can heavily skew the win rate, same with popular nations to play at lower BRs since new players will flock to that specific country.

[@ruijurassico2028]

The video itself was great, especially the music, but i thing you shouldnt have simply put a black square with simple text in front of the tier list, you could have simply place the text in the upper right corner, but this is just an opion on a video made 10 months ago so, idk how you upgraded your videos. All I know is that you have a new subcriber here

[@Serbian_fish]

China should be atleast B tier. Russia as a common ally Small tech tree Very good top tier SPAA/MBT’s Excellent aircraft for really all Br’s Absolutely insane 10.0, 11.7, 6.0 and 8.0 lineups Very good cas options (one of the best F-16’s in the game) Good tank destroyers at mid br’s China also has one of the highest win rates at top tier. Best IR missile in the game. (TY-90’s) Amazing helicopter tree Amazing shells at all br’s Stabilizers and NVG’s (and thermals) pretty early Probably some of the best premiums in the game China is literally better than Italy at most BR’s, I really have no clue how it’s lower than it.

[@ERIK-457]

Germany should be put at A tier if not even S if we didn't count with the noob wehraboo playerbase and nerfs that gaijin gave it

[@Rorywizz]

They generally get really good tanks at low battle ratings because the people that play them have no clue what they're doing

[@dariusandreiminca9703]

There's no way a player is getting to top tier us in 1 month

[@thegreenlandicgamer]

It seems quite impossible indeed, but I reckon it can be done in atleast a months time, but will much likely take longer.

[@godofchicken3749]

It’s pretty much how long it took me I had the game for quite a while but didn’t play a whole lot till recently and it took like two weeks to get the f-4c (had a premium plane) and maybe another week when the f-16 was released to get that

[@europeanboy1]

I have around 450 hours in wt, and around 200 of those are with sweden, so that is about 8 days, plus I have spent a few golden eagles, but could only buy 6 vehicles in total, so that should put me around 14 days, and with all that my beast tank is at 7.7, so i think its pretty doable. ( I had a premium account for a very brief part of the grind, so i guess im about at 16 days).

[@CrazySummerDude]

@@europeanboy1The guy in the vid said it will take a month without spending money

[@CrazySummerDude]

@@thegreenlandicgamerthen why did you say it would take a month did you forget than you buy the vehicles and you spend sl

[@hawk119]

"BRO WAS SENT HOME" LMAO

[@EmilioTrades]

Greenlandic you better continue making long form videos 🔫

[@BushCamper0410]

Aint no way he just said that it would take an AVERAGE player a month to get to top tier while playing 3-4 hours a day without soending money 💀

[@MoeLester69]

A Month to top tier damn i am playing 3 years and still way to go

[@not_castlersyt9608]

fr

[@C61-y9s]

I am shocked you placed China so low. Their ground lineups are very unique, being able to take Soviet and American vehicles. The only actual major downside to China is the lack of naval. It doesn't really matter how much rp is needed to grind out China, because when you are doing it, you are effectively grinding two nations at once; being America and Russia. The U.K should not be a tier. As a former Britain main, the only good thing about the U.K is that it gets access to UFO spitfires. Overall pretty interesting video, but I think you really dropped the ball on China.

[@borbduck]

Ain't no way this guy literally calculated the rp/sl costs of every plane in warthunder 💀

[@thegreenlandicgamer]

I only calculated the cost of RP of every aircraft needed to get to the last aircraft in the tech tree. It took me a long time to do it for all 10 nations :D

[@LunarFlame_VR]

Never let bro cook

[@way9895]

After 1,400 hours of war thunder and having played all tech trees to some degree i can have my own tier list S: Japan, Italy A: USSR America, France B: China C: Sweden D: Israel

[@penguinlol69]

wheres germany

[@MaxwellTan-f9w]

​@@penguinlol69Dead

[@oelholm]

damn, nice bro. been a while since the last long format video lol

[@KrakenZSV]

I'm sorry but this video just has too much misinformation for me to agree with. Aside from the other comments already mentioning the unrealistic grind time, I don't agree with BR heatmaps being a factor for ranking, as that would be no different to endorsing Gaijin's balance around player stats. "Legendary natives vehicles" also seem to be a very strange thing to consider for a country tier list, as it's more of a subjective topic. Players who have less time or interest to grind multiple trees to the top have good reason to play a country that has content from a mixture of multiple tech trees. Having a lot of variety of vehicles to choose and play from is also something I personally see as a good thing. Also, while you are making an analysis on entire countries that include all of the sub-trees from Army to Naval, it seems to me that only Aviation is touched on. You sprinkle some ground stuff here and there, but the video is primarily on planes. Consequently, you only mention time it would take for the average player to reach top tier for Air, and *assume* it would take the same amount of time for ground as well which quite often is not the case, as the two game modes play out very differently and require a different skillset to perform at (ie. top fragging in every plane game doesn't mean you could do the same in tanks). Finally, you don't seem to have "fun factor" included for any given country to play aside from looking at BR heat maps, which i would argue is completely unrelated. I'm sure at least most of us would rather play out games as the terminator and lose, than to immediately die and win. I have played this game for a good while (3000+ hours), and though admittedly not as much as others, I consider myself to be at least above average in player skill level and have completed numerous tech trees myself including Japan completely (100% Ground and Air), France high tier (AMX-32 120 and Mirage IIIE), Russia mid-high tier (Obj. 906 and MiG 27), China high tier (ZTZ96A and F-100A), and Israel completely (100% Ground and Air) with good progress currently on other countries as well. I would also like to point out that despite your tierlist having an S tier, no country is included to being the "best". Maybe the way you see S tier is being perfect, and not just relative to other countries. Which is fine, but I thought I'd chip in on my thoughts toward what you had to say. Have a good day

[@joshuasands9440]

I think Isreal kinda gets the short end of the stick just considering that until 1948 they werent even a modern country, a whole 3 years after the end of the war in the European Theatre. So it would make sense they dont have a lot of early stuff to choose from because at that time it would just be other countries that they were using if they weren't captured or persecuted and if they were even able to join other militaries.

[@safetybirb1577]

We could've gotten Poland or Australia but we got Israel... Poland would've had the 7tp, 10tp, and 14tp, along with many modernizations of the T-72/T-62... but we got the Merkava (which is cool ngl but that's one vehicle)

[@wobblewarfare4494]

ah yes 1 million variants and upgrades of the same two tanks (and then call it the israeli ground tech tree) (also no low tier just mid and up )😭

[@safetybirb1577]

@@wobblewarfare4494 For real... like at least give us a shitty copy/paste tech tree if you're not gonna try hard enough to make the low-tier part of the tech tree

[@cuckholdsimulator1176]

They should buff the Merkava 4, just because the armor is classified doesnt mean its paper thin

[@FaistoilTheFox]

Any French main at 5.0-5.7 absolutely demolishes anyone else

[@wobblewarfare4494]

I'd put france at c or b tier. Many of the lower rank vehicles that are slow and outgunned become a pain to play. I would not recommend the french ground tree to lower level players, especially those who are new to the game (those of you who report literally anyone who kills you [stop doing that and just get good]), unless you really want to. Sticking through all of the slow tier tanks leads to a fun, more rewarding experience with the faster vehicles, such as the ebr or amx 13 and it's derivatives. The france tree is very special in the fact that gameplay is a lot different than other trees. In Conclusion, If new at game: Highly advise not playing this tech tree If experienced game: 👍 P.S. Give france a squadron vehicle and stop messing with the br so much

[@CZMajkee01]

Definitely agree with you, especially with the squadron vehicle. It has been missing there for over 5 years now

[@robert-joshuamcfaddin7041]

Here's the thing on the win ratings, win ratings depends on the players, not the vehicles.

[@AdaaDK]

I dont agree with about 50% of the heat maps, but i gues this is overall statistic and hard to compare to own experiences. Sweden AIR as an example i find very hard to belive has the overall W/R that your heatmap suggests.

[@MCbikey00]

He forgot to add that you need to purchase 6 planes in each rank so it is a lot more research points than going frok p-26 to f16

[@Travgard]

"The lower French BR is very bad", yet I always finish on the podium with my planes, very often first. If you know how to play them they are simply excellent!

[@tjreal2k]

Yeah the lower tier planes are decent just the tanks are a nightmare at rank 1-2

[@monfortnicolas5448]

@@tjreal2kWhat ? Somua S35 and D2 are just borderline OP when played half decently.... You basically cannot be penned if you angle and keep a bit of distance with your ennemy. They are not the fastest nor have the best guns but they overall the best balanced tank at low tier. Yes the BT5, the Chinese M8 or the Swedish Strv all have either better mobility or better gun or both but they all die to .50 Cal or the first 20 mm that comes around. Frencyh low tier definitely deserves more credit that it gets

[@Djdjdjdjmemeo]

It’s a pity that the Merkava wasn’t made as impressive as in real life

[@BokuNoSekai]

Lol they over did with the merkava in the game, its getting fked up by rpg's irl

[@deliyaxaimova6828]

As A Israeli, I Can Confirm That I Have Emotional Pain 😫😫

[@DahanLiam]

גם לי חביבי אבל היי, לפחות המדינה שלנו שם

[@AugmentedGravity]

I can’t say i agree with this list but i appreciate the effort.

[@athos8830]

A França não e Downtier, No Inicio e Dificil, Mas Quando Vc chega no Arl 44 tudo Muda, E depois que Vc chega nos Autoloaders Melhora Muito, Facilmente Consigo 4 Kills ou Mais Por Partida.

[@boggisthecat]

The heat maps don’t necessarily relate to how good the vehicles are. The larger ‘nations’ get more casual players who will not usually be as good at the game. That means that ‘minor nations’ have more bored experienced players using those vehicles, and so you get a disparity based on skill levels of the players rather than capabilities of the vehicles.

[@mikelol487]

only for the calculation of rp and weeks to get top tier this video is a 10/10 pd: my friends are triying get top tier with china and after this video I realize that they make a bad decision

[@AdaaDK]

Its not a bad decision. ESP if you dont own russia/USA, only thing that drags down china a bit is its a lot of copy paste, but if its your main nation to play, and you dont wanna go USA/Russia then its a great nation to get a bit of the orther large nations taste. I also think china has a VERY good br 8.3+ lineups, so they are rather competetive lategame esp if you wanna add choppers or planes to your Ground RB lineups. Mind you i got nearly 4k hours in this game already, so i should know a bit about the grinds and nations. If i started over i would do China/Italy and Sweden or Isreal as my main nations. Considering you will get to play most major nations stuff via those nations combined with more unqie tanks/planes on top of it. Sadly i started playing the game in beta, and didnt have the choises back then so i went full ham on the 3 major nations, making china and Isreal bad picks for me down the line, due to all the copy paste stuff.

[@vaassavage1821]

The only reason Israel is not worth researching is due to the insane nerf the tanks underwent, the jets are sick

[@posenchang5636]

Sweden getting a B is just not right. But overall a pretty fair rating system.

[@Mauriser]

never ever let bro cook

[@bigoof1105]

Shitty poorly made list that leaves out the actual effectiveness of lineups and vehicles. The 3 points you used to rank these tech trees are all completely irrelevant. Heat maps from thunderskill are an incredibly unreliable representation of the tree's win rates. How much it takes to reach top tier and number of "legendary vehicles"? People who want to play a good tech tree do not take these into account.

[@Kampf_Tomate]

Well done🎉 your video is very nice

[@Viperstrike0597]

Bro don't account for skill issue

[@whos_mythic]

Love the Swedish biased rating lol

[@milesromanus7041]

Ware wa kan gun wagateki wa Tenchiirezaru choutekizo Teki no taishou taru mono wa Kokon musou no eiyuu de

[@seanobrien3819]

Haha a month to get to top tier is the biggest joke he said

[@Shelled7488]

Bro this long term video was great! Keep it up!

[@banana_in_a_tuxedo]

As someone whos stuck in tier 2 in the German air tech tree, that shit SUCKS

[@a2falcone]

What we can get from this is that the average WT player doesn't have a job and/or lives (and is fed) by their parents. Otherwise, how could they play 3-4 hours every day?

[@ccffpt]

The problem with french tanks it's they didn't evolve during the 2nd part of the ww2, so in war thunder they can't do anything against new 1942-1945 tanks, overall

[@The_ragingJewZionist]

Bro really said japan was good💀

[@imperialwyvern]

Does this TheGreenlandic dude know whats he's talking about? No way in hell your going to grind the US tech tree in a month with premium while playing 4-6 hours. That's unrealistic.

[@adimaiuniversal4361]

8:40 as a japanese main yes i an vouch, low-tier is HELL ON EARTH, cause all of your good cannons are only barely better in penetration than a 50cal. not to mention your either slow, big, or basically have 0 armor

[@callumlynch9575]

A MONTH 💀💀💀 TO GET TO US TOP TIER💀💀💀

[@Legend-nu3gj]

I think it'd be better if you compared legendary weapons not by their number but by their ratio to the other ones.

[@justabarrelbomb4472]

My brother in Christ where did you get the times needed to complete the trees from?? I have 800hrs in the game and I'm: Germany: 8.3 G/4.3 A Britain: 6.3 G USA: 6.0 G URSS: 6.0 G You'd need to play like 8 hours a day with a premium account to complete the TTs in that time frame.

[@lucjanositz9625]

Make a video with beginner tipps, common mistakes, your favoutite vehicles and which are the best in the game. Are there maybe OP-ones? I think this would be great

[@xenuko]

4 weeks to top tier??? I need like 1 year xd

[@morianuxi]

about britain 5.3: PAIN

[@ChamberOfStoicReflections]

I went with a germany main. Lower tier jets are super painfull but it gets way better after that.

[@Armex_YT]

That thunderbolt has been eating dem big macs

[@egheperdisa]

As an Italian main I confirm low tier is suffering