Testing Freshly Build MAMLUK Composite Bow

[@almubarizunarchery4607]

Mashallah, finally someone who understands the difference between a mameluke bow and an ottoman bow.

[@HaydarArchery]

thank you for your kind words brother.. there's plenty room for improvements, especially at the siyah angle and curvature, but I think the basic geometry is already close.. at least with the one in Hagia Irene museum..

[@TruthBeliever5557]

This bow destroyed the Mongols💀, its the best Bow🔥! End Off!👊

[@brucenovotny5924]

A beautiful bow... it's a piece of art👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

[@HaydarArchery]

thank you..

[@TruthBeliever5557]

Amazing oeice of work by the Mamluks

[@sk-ej2ll]

Great work but I would like to say that 3 things: 1. Brace height looks disproportionally high. 2.The noice that occures when you release, tells me that whether your release is bad or the arrow spine is wrong and 3. even if the bow isn't meant for shooting in the first place, I can't get how someone can not be interestet in the flight of an arrow! Keep up your work!

[@HaydarArchery]

thanks for you kind words.. 1. brace height is 8", afaik it's common in Asiatic composite bow, some even goes as high as 10" 2. could be both! here in the video, I've just recovery from my right-arm fracture due to accident, so it's been about a year plus hiatus from archery, the arrow is what I got lying around.. 3. the bow owner have amount of footage of this bow fly some arrows, I can sent you some footage if you interested

[@ioanvalentinmuresianu3043]

Very nice bow !

[@HaydarArchery]

thank you for your kind words.. 🙏

[@SonyAditya-oo3iu]

Keren banget kak, itu desain nya mirip busur nya milik sahabat Rasulullah SAW. Sa'ad bin waqqash😊

[@zoranpavlovic9540]

Awesome! 🏹👍💥

[@HaydarArchery]

thank you Zoran.. I'm very curious if they have any connection at all with many of Serbian bow paintings that you often share.. do they on the same timeline?

[@zoranpavlovic9540]

​​@@HaydarArchery some of them have due military contacts specially Turcopoli mercenaries. There's Byzantine icon in Louvre (St Demetrios) holding pure Mamluk bowtype (same siyah shape as your reconstruction but a bit less angled). BTW were you pushed to do grooves for the bowstring or shape of bowtips in picture suggests that? Very nice solution anyhow and it works. Shape of strung bow resembles shape of Syrian Arab archers' bows from Chludov Psalter... .

[@zoranpavlovic9540]

​​@@HaydarArchery in addition - ​I observed shape close to tips from siyah profile of your bow. In bow from Dečani monastery there's similar shape of siyahs, not so angled but there's kind of little cut before very tip which could suggest groove, interesting your bow opens some new question. I always thought it was ornament. Though, in some representations of the same bow siyahs are very low angled with same "cut".

[@HaydarArchery]

@@zoranpavlovic9540 that solution is as old as Scythian bow and often seen on contemporer recurve selfbow.. but yeah, there's no evidence it's actually been use by Mamluk.. I done it that way due to the siyah curvature of my bow, it needed so the bow can work.. but I think if I'm easing the curvature a bit, I might able to make the bow work without any groove.. maybe in next iteration..

[@HaydarArchery]

@@zoranpavlovic9540 very interesting.. and also the way the string loops sit.. in some painting, they depicted to sit not in straight angle ala Ottoman bow but curved, might suggest that they sit on kind of curved platform like on my bow..

[@portaminast7265]

Ia so imresionant, and beautifull... but what are his materials? Bow and what is the dark translucent stuff??

[@HaydarArchery]

it use all natural material.. wood, sinew (fibers from dried animal tendon), and the dark translucent stuff is water buffalo horn, and all of these were glued together with natural hide-glue..

[@portaminast7265]

@@HaydarArchery my god... this is Art. True Art. Congratulation, just so amazing

[@HaydarArchery]

@@portaminast7265 thank you for your kind words.. ☺🙏

[@JoelWigginsjr]

When you say fresh how fresh ?? how long do you really have to wait for that to cure out before you can bend it because I’m probably not gonna be able to wait no year I’m gonna have a hard time waiting three months

[@HaydarArchery]

what I mean by fresh is from when the bow first strung and get full draw on the board after it's been done, and get it first hand drawn.. as for the seasoning/curing, this one about six month or so, but you can do less time than that, depend on the climate, in dryer season, three months might sufficient..

[@DavidKissinger-cm3lh]

nice piece of work but i can get as much penetration with one my osage orange self bows shooting at 12 inches from the target. why didn't he back up 15 or 20 yards ?

[@HaydarArchery]

well, torba/gaozhen/makiwara (or whatever called in any culture) is not about penetration from the start.. basically it used in posture training (as in Kyudo), shooting by focusing on your body posture or form, not about accuracy nor penetration, hence shoot from close distance.. here I use it just to test the bow initial function..

[@thormidthagahast8914]

So we would hold the handle super hard to stop that crack on the belly from opening up even more? Or is that grand canyon of a crack part of the design? Is it a take down bow? 2 pieces, or ??

[@HaydarArchery]

that's not crak, but where both horns meet, it's the traditional construction of composite bow..

[@thormidthagahast8914]

@@HaydarArcherygood stuff. does it bend through the handle at all? Does the joint in clear horn limitations close up or move when you draw the bow?

[@HaydarArchery]

@@thormidthagahast8914 in general, the handle section are static.. some small exception like in the Ottoman fligth-shooting bow which the handle would flex a little bit.. but overall this is an save and approved construction for composite bow.. it's drastically differ from self bow.. you would surprise to know how much parts to construct for some old composite bow design, some might have 9-15 different wooden parts as core only, not included horns, sinew and else glued togheter by hide/gelatin glue..

[@gushlergushler]

Gorgeous bow! Are the siyahs laminated or spliced in?

[@HaydarArchery]

thank you.. it's spliced

[@boiessss]

horn bow?

[@HaydarArchery]

yes..

[@boiessss]

@@HaydarArchery nice

[@jareth7456]

Although it is pretty......it sure doesn't look like an indo Persian bow

[@HaydarArchery]

it's not an Indo-Persian design in the first place.. as I specify in the video description, it design based on an old Mamluk bow in the Abdullah Fréres's 1880 photo series of armories collection kept in The Hagia Irene Museum, Istanbul..

[@SamiBayasi]

Looks amazing thx for sharing