Testing Plumbing Fittings | Which one is the BEST?!

Which is the BEST Plumbing Fitting on the Market?! - Questions ONLY a Plumber Can Answer
Today's video is going to change everything...Which fitting do you think is the best on the market right now? Y'all know from all my memes and videos that I am ANTI Shark Bite, well QuickFitting a company that makes push-together fittings reached out to me about a possible partnership, the second I heard push-together fitting I said no way. Not unless I got to see IN PERSON how their product was different than Shark Bite's. I flew up to QuickFitting and tested their product alongside Shark Bite and a press fitting, and I gotta tell ya... QuickFitting BLEW my mind. If you are wondering what the best fitting on the market is, I STRONGLY encourage you to look into QuickFitting.
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[@interchangexVP3]

The problem I have with the tests is that even the sharkbite performed at multiple times the pressure and tension they would ever receive in real life. So either there is some degradation across time or inconsistency in the quality from one connection to another. Otherwise, you can only conclude that all fittings significantly exceed design requirements and are thus equally suitable for real world application.

[@TroyeStonich]

Yep, this gut gets it. I have several Sharkbite brand fittings in my home and I have no worries about leaks.

[@TheR1ckster]

I work with lots of push to connect style fittings in an r&d lab. The main issues we see are just o-ring failures or user install errors. Things not being pushed on enough to get a good clamp and seal around the o-ring etc. I'd be fine using these as long as they're somewhere you'll see them if they do fail.

[@R3CKLESSRHINO]

what home will ever see those pressures. I agree with you

[@chelseachelseafcsuperfan7220]

Soldering is King

[@mikefarrell6766]

​@@TroyeStonichrather than being upset, why not be excited you no longer have to pay for fancy packaging and a dope ai generated logo

[@JohnBrown-vn2qw]

Shark bite makes couplings that transition from pvc to copper up to 1” I use them outside all the time. Huge time savers

[@mastersfan04]

I would like to see the test with the fittings that were purchased at the store. Not the ones supplied by the company at their lab. Not saying they are cheating the test, but I would like to be sure .

[@brendanberry7403]

Yes, I don’t trust videos like this. It’s also kind of bothersome we never get to see any of it actually installed either.

[@dcleondc]

Would be interesting to see a follow up video showing the differences between the push to connect fittings and showing why quick fittings hold up better then shark bite

[@paulmaxwell8851]

I think most of us are far more interested in the long-term performance and durability of push-type fittings. These experiments were excellent, but I worry less about leaks today and more about leaks twenty years down the road. No complaints, though: every Sharkbite I've ever installed has stood up well.

[@banka1321]

the question is: since when do you install sharkbites? :) when you started with it 10 years ago, you do not have any complains by customers yet. but maybe in 10 years?

[@mikefarrell6766]

I'm never spending that money again, thank God for the local supply store, eff Lowe's and home Depot

[@jonathanklopf7581]

I'v used sharkbite fitting, I had no idea they withstood that much pressure. I feel very confident in my repairs now more than ever.

[@Kawitamamayi]

Any fitting that exceeds 4x the maximum expected pressure and tension is adequate. Next consider cost, durability-longevity and ease of installation. 21x vs 8x maximum city water pressure, though defiantly impressive, seems irrelevant except in extremely high pressure use. Am I missing something?

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

Yeah what is missing is the "hammer" effect on that joint. So take the pressure fail point and figure 4x that less for the hammer effect, so 200psi sharkbite, then figure the actual pressure of the water flow in a burst of flow which is likely 150 in a 100 psi system, and your flirting with danger. Add in none perfect installation, and then you see why sharkbite is a sketchy fitting for plumbers that have to get it right.

[@MrSkylerh]

Also degradation over time is important. The sharkbite assuming it's installed perfectly only needs to degrade just a little before that flirting with danger becomes a makeout session.

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

@@MrSkylerh 🤣 very spot on!

[@TheDomlc]

I can speak from my own 12 years experience, while the strength is definitely impressive, using sharkbites in walls and non accessible locations is asking for trouble. They won't explode off, but I've been called for many leaks that end up being from a homeowners sharkbite quick fix. I'm not bashing the product, they've come in handy many times, but please don't build with them.

[@MittyNuke1]

The biggest problem I’ve seen in my own limited experience with shark bite is incorrect installation. When you solder a joint, you want to sand down the overlapping surfaces to provide good surface area for the flux and solder to flow. For sharkbite, the exact opposite is the case, where you need the smoothest surface for the o-ring to bite. You also need to be very careful to de-burr the pipe edges to avoid ripping the shark bite seal. The biggest problem with shark bite is probably that it’s seen as an unprofessional product, and also it’s very expensive. The time needed to prepare a shark bite joint is not much less vs a solder joint for an experienced plumber, and with fittings costing 5-10x or more than copper sweat fittings, there is no real advantage to using shark bite. Which is why it’s mostly used by diy home owners who do not want to mess with a torch or shell out for a pex expansion tool.

[@jessecw2]

"Thank you to QuickFitting for partnering up with me and for sponsoring this video." 21x standard city pressure is great, but so is 8x on a sharkbite? Just say they both exceeded your expectations but quickfitting was better in testing

[@RogerWakefield]

But wouldn’t you want to install the best product possible when doing a repair? QuickFitting is clearly the better fitting over Shark Bite…

[@Mr.S_BuildsThings]

@@RogerWakefield well said sir

[@xephael3485]

@@RogerWakefield not always... price and affordability are also something to consider. I like to get a product that has the best specifications for a price-point generally.

[@RigorDMG]

@@xephael3485 exactly, not everyone can afford the absolute best, as long as it does its job that's a plus for me

[@leonstrider1615]

Why not put a v8 in a golf cart then? Don't you want the best you can get instead of a 2 stroke. Not saying v8 is best but you get what I'm saying

[@joshcowart2446]

This is why I like solder. I’m not as much concerned about pressure testing because we don’t get those pressures except in a freeze. I’m concerned about longevity and I worry about relying on o rings for years and years. I’ve seen copper soldered in the 50s that’s still holding. I’m curious if you will be able to say the same for these. As for the the press fittings, I saw them pull apart during the freeze last year. Copper is pretty soft so I can see how it would uncrimp itself. I’d be curious what the results would be on the same test with a brass press fitting. I’ve only seen brass on male/female adapters, fitting reducers and unions. However I bet you could screw a male and female together and they’d hold good enough to properly test the brass press on either side.

[@markallan9050]

when I was in college, we put sharkbites, propress, aquatherm, soldered copper, brazed copper, flared copper, and pex under some pretty insane pressures. Most of them blew out over 1000 psi. I was actually really shocked because the copper fittings blew out before the solder or brazed joints did and the pex tubing blew out before the crimp or expansion connections did. flared copper was capable of handling a riddiculous pressure, it was over 2000 psi. our little baker pump couldnt put out more than that. the aquatherm took about the same and didn't blow apart either.

[@bustex1]

Where did shark bite fail if you recall?

[@StoneysWorkshop]

Man, Quickfitting looks pretty epic, especially not needing the tool. Avoid hot tickets is a life saver on equipment maintenance.

[@DeadKoby]

By default, I still like to solder, but if there's some spot that is not safely accessed with the torch, it's good to have options.

[@jerrysarabia8930]

So much in site I appreciate you doing this Thxs again

[@kimariokiji]

Hi Roger, I trust you and am so glad to see this video because I haven’t heard of Quick Fitting. Hoping you do more videos on this brand.

[@RogerWakefield]

We have one coming VERY soon, so stay tuned!

[@keithpond691]

If you have the opportunity,. I would like to see a test when they you used on PEX. Would the pipe fail before the connectors?

[@jqmachgunner2577]

Roger, when used with copper pipe, do the Quick Fittings rotate around like the Sharkbites? Also someone told me that Quick Fittings are also sold under the ProBrite name and packaging. Is this true? Thanks.

[@TheDomlc]

Amazing video guys. I've always wanted to put fittings to the test like this! If you set up a test facility, I'd LOVE to see Pex crimp vs. Pex Expansion vs. Compression fittings! Keep up the content!!

[@tinman1955]

Matt Risinger has some videos where he blows up PEX pipe and fittings.

[@MittyNuke1]

I bet expansion holds better but that’s just a guess

[@don2deliver]

@@tinman1955 Yes sharkbites blew off much earlier than any other failure. Pex A went just a little sooner than B or PVC. But PVC degrades the quickest over time, especially CPVC.

[@boppins]

Only place I've used sharkbite was for the toilet valve. You'll notice it quick if there's a leak, and it's easy to replace.

[@MIGHTYX2010]

Do you have any videos on doing both these tests on PEX-A Expansion? I think I might have seen a video on water pressure for PEX-A, not sure if it was from you but I don't think I've ever seen anybody pull it apart that would be interesting.

[@patdud1979]

Was there a video testing pex a expansion ring or crimp and clinch ring?

[@tannerwest6823]

Lol cool video. I'd never seen one of these quick bites until about 3 weeks ago I cut one out thinking it was probably junk, I scrapped it. Whoops, guess I should've kept it and reused it somewhere

[@jqmachgunner2577]

Are brass and copper compression fittings used with copper pipe approved for exterior plumbing?

[@ddgiant]

Great product but what good are they, especially for the diy homeowners, if they are not locally available?

[@thecountrychemist2561]

Love to see what happens when things aren't installed perfectly. Something you'd expect from someone with less experience. Are some connectors less error prone than others? Do some fail massively if you forget to do something "simple" when setting it up?

[@JUGGERNAUT____]

I'm a plumber that trains plumbers. So many things have to go wrong for one of these fittings to fail. Copper pipes would have to be an alien concept for this fitting to fail. Square cut the pipe, deburr, push, you're done.

[@onenikkione]

Thank you for showing the Sharkbite fittings I installed (only on exposed supply lines, new valves for kitchen & bathroom 10 valves all together) will hold up for the low water pressure coming into our home (70psi). The builder had put in those cheap push/pull plastic valves with the supply line crimped to the valve.

[@robblythe294]

Fantastic video, I know they supplied all the testing, I would love to see either you or someone from this affiliate go to the store and pull a fitting off the shelf from each brand and just basically spot check versus something that was already supplied by them.

[@RogerWakefield]

I did one of those tests recently! Check it out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn28l2N6lLecaaM

[@aroundthehouseEricG]

Great video. I would love to see this on CPVC and PEX.

[@commoncentstx]

Pressure and pull apart are not the normal failure mode for any of the tested types of fittings, including Sharkbite. Install error, vibration, and movement are far more common causes. If the sponsored push to connect fitting is subject to install error in the same ways as Sharkbite, it will likely fail in the same way as a Sharkbite. They need to make sure it is impossible, or at least more difficult, to make the common errors seen with Sharkbite that cause leaks. Also, I'd like to see how it works with soft copper that is a bit out of round. A press fitting will accept slightly out of round or not straight pipes easily, but Sharkbite fittings are basically impossible to get fully seated on one. Lastly, the sponsorship causes this information to have 0 credibility, especially if you go watch the propress videos where you say you don't like push to connect fittings because they don't require specialized equipment to install.

[@jonc2914]

My houses flooded over a sink shut off valve... it was pressures, it was age and breakdown of the rubber gasket inside it.

[@texasmike4767]

Hey Rodger that was a pretty good video but I also wanted to know what your thoughts on Smart click fittings were. They do look pretty reliable but I don't know

[@ronlovell5374]

I'm curious about them too! Apparently they have a spring loaded stainless steel clamp inside them and they are permanent, not removable. Would love to see them tested!

[@RogueShadowTCN]

I'm curious as well.

[@rudyjanke5942]

I'd like to see how threaded black/ galvanized compares

[@shaneomac9505]

Would love to also see a comparison with Watts brand fittings called Aqualock including both brass and plastic push connect fitting. Also curious whether different pipe materials, i.e. pex vs copper vs. cpvc makes a difference

[@andrewharmless8627]

That's easy Pex and copper - GREAT CPVC - Pls don't be the dickhead to ever install that S***

[@rlgarv]

Can you do a tensile test on both types of pex?

[@Johnny-vu7db]

My experience is SharkBites mostly fail as straight couplings when theyre installed where they can spin around on the pipe. Ive taken failed fittings apart and noticed the stainless teeth cut a ring around the pipe, until the fitting pulled off the copper.. I think a Propress locks in place and would never spin? I dont' see any anti spin feature on the QuickFitting?

[@philipdow2495]

what about Propress fitting where it is crimped with Rigid tool or Milwaukee Tool ?? could you do a video on that.. please thanks!!

[@xXThenight12345Xx]

Can we see the tensile strength of quick fitting vs a copper compression fitting (legend)? I want to see if quick fitting will be suitable for repairing a leak 6 feet underground.

[@AlanPlumberBruh]

I’ll stick to soldering 👨🏻‍🏭

[@g00fyscientist]

Hello, plumber here in the North. The biggest issue we see with push-to-connect fittings is they unlatch when frozen.

[@HighPeaksHome]

No surprise about the Sharkbite, definitely a surpise on the quick fiting.

[@markkueter6437]

The store I am at is getting a reset in shark bite fittings. The question I have if it has been done on the MAX SHARK BITE which have a stainless steel ring on it

[@MittyNuke1]

Cool to hear you were right here in Rhode Island!

[@xanderhebert6257]

Just had a plumbing panic in my house. Septic tank alarm started going off and I’m the only one googling stuff and the only one not on the edge of a fight. I’m walking around trying to tell people “the water level is a problem, we should watch our water usage to avoid making the problem worse” and “lets turn the alarm back on later to see if the problem is still happening, then we can call someone.” I either got the “calm down” or the “your being paranoid” responses.

[@luciahaskins3170]

A video like this needs more details. Price comparisons, more situations for use, more pro and con comparisons.

[@RogerWakefield]

I mention in the video, I’m adding on to my studio. I will be testing various fittings on different pipes so stay tuned!

[@dominicm2175]

I totally agree….price, availability, leak test over time, any specialty tools needed, temperature test, etc. Not to mention the tests shown were performed in a lab and not in “real-world” applications. The biggest thing for me though is that because this is a sponsored video by the manufacturer, how to know that any other additional information details was not: edited,deleted, or censored by the sponsor ?

[@alexstoles1339]

I also wonder how they hold up in say 1 inch or larger diameter

[@Daniel-fd1ld]

Would be interesting to see a repeating water hammer test on these fitting.

[@mikerademaker9711]

Have you ever tested Watts aqualock fittings?

[@r3d-1truth17]

How bad could this pressure failure be if my musicale water pressure is below 80psi, and mostly around 40-50psi. Can this massive pressure test truly impact my home’s water pressure levels and possible failure? Thanks

[@alexstoles1339]

What sizes do quick fittings come in and how much do they cost? Where can we find them

[@RogerWakefield]

I mention in the video...they have a website.

[@MoneyManHolmes]

I like Sharkbite, but if the big box stores carried Quickfitting, I would definitely give them a try.

[@RogerWakefield]

You can find them on Amazon

[@mattwynn6915]

Look for your local Hajoca/Hughes supply plumbing wholesaler they are a distributor.

[@billsmith2212]

They are at Home Depot . Or you may have to order and do a store pick up .

[@throttlebottle5906]

a standard sweat on fitting, done properly 😉

[@industrialnerd5535]

I have been aware of quick-fittings for a while but mostly in an industrial capacity. Such as for high pressure air and high pressure water for industrial processes. Did not know they made general purpose fittings for residential and basic commercial plumbing.

[@dominicm2175]

I believe I saw a display in the refrigeration section of the supplier I use

[@Generate-3D]

Did you do solder fittings against quick fitting?

[@rorynelson7548]

I wanna know how much pressure pex crimper fittings can take

[@Mr.S_BuildsThings]

Might pop the pex before the fitting

[@andrewharmless8627]

There's a GC (not a plumber) on KZbin who has a vid showing crimp fitting pressure vs shark bite test, can't remember his name though.

[@old1234]

Matt Risinger

[@albertpinestine7195]

I want to know what uponor will do in that machine

[@docAwfulMD]

hmm ngl i’m surprised and impressed by the quick fitting. personally soldering or pressing have always come before shark bites but i’m interested in picking up a few quick fittings now.. they could come in handy🤔

[@darkma1ice]

They are incredibly handy. Just be sure you sand copper pipe and remove the plastic insert. And make sure the fitting makes up all the way

[@robertmarin8217]

Sir what's the psi max Apollo A expansion rings/ fittings

[@chrissotelo8538]

Will there be any fittings for galvanized

[@RogerWakefield]

That, I’m not entirely sure about…maybe one day

[@GaryYoung-eq1ph]

Getting better and better 4 the do it ur self home owners 2 save money! (Plastic hand tight pvc etc.!) And What makes more pressure by having shut off valves turn LEFT 2 the very end causing more water flow ?

[@danielwiley5796]

I would never use those fittings for new construction but I think it could be great for tying into An existing system for a remodel or an addition

[@Qballl]

What's the difference between brazing and soldering as someone not in the field I thought it was two words for the same thing

[@tima7763]

So my 60 lbs of pressure should be good?

[@matthewsanders1486]

what about watts brand push to connenct fittings?

[@wcgrant5065]

You changed my mind! I have cpvc lines in my home and wanted to replace the crappy bathroom sink shutoff valve with better 1/4 turn valves (I'm changing the faucet). The Quickfitting valves are priced competitively with the cpvc valves and a little cheaper that the shark bites. I decided to go with the Quickfitting in lieu of the Shark bites after seeing this video. I'll still be checking under the sink for a while though.

[@shragyapter]

How about PEX-A F1960 Pex compare to copper?

[@robertbuck7186]

I thought of using two shark bites on either side of some type of unit that I can do an easy remove and replace of by also using valves to isolate that unit. I would try to do this on something like a zone valve which eventually zone valves go or a backflow preventer which tend to go is well and that way with an isolation valve on each side of the unit plus some type of way to uncouple it besides a soldering copper Union this might be a better way to to service the heating system when these units go bad but only if it can be undone easily and I think after time the shark bites will calcify up are the quick fittings will also calcify up just like a union wood but the video was interesting since I was thinking of trying this with two shark bites and two service valves with the backflow preventer in between and also trying it the same way on zone valves which frequently go bad. And trying to make the the system easier to service with the isolation valves before and after the units such as the backflow preventer for the zone valves it will be less likely to get air in the system because you won't have to let the system drain as you're trying to piece everything back together in the way which you would do the standard repair which is to cut it attach the fittings to it and then physically solder it back in which means you have to drain the system of the water to some point where it won't drip anymore otherwise you can't solder

[@jongonegone1262]

why would i have 800 psi any pressure on my home water lines ??

[@aubrey64126]

This was done with copper pipe, what about pex would Quick fitting still out perform Shark bite ?

[@RogerWakefield]

Those tests are coming soon!

[@elic.2443]

So I definitely feel good that I soldered my connections the other day

[@brl5755]

Can you test these fittings and competition on PEX A and B? I'm curious if they grip better or worse than each other or if they outperform crimp ring, cinch ring, or expansion fittings!

[@RogerWakefield]

I plan on it!

[@brl5755]

@@RogerWakefield Can you bend the ear of QuickFitting? Please suggest they make QuickFitting to PEX-A adapter fittings? I am actively trying to retain as much flow while slowly reconfiguring my old home from water hammery copper to PEX-A, and all brands of push-connect fittings require a stiffener that goes inside the PEX in order to be used. I feel like it's defeating the purpose and don't want my investment in PEX-A to be reduced down to the performance of PEX-B. I rented a propress tool to connect my new water heater install with PEX-A to existing copper- all in the name of flow.

[@brock8830]

If you're doing all that then just buy the Milwaukee expansion tool for PEX it's only like 3-4 hundred bucks. And it comes with 1/2, 3/4, and 1 inch heads. Use it till you're done and you could still probably resell it for 200.00 and only be in it a little bit of money. I imagine you'd go way over that in those push fittings.

[@brl5755]

@@brock8830 I actually already did, but don't want to open the walls to replace 1/2 copper if I can pop one of these on to adapt to pex

[@ryanlaucek553]

Hey, could we get a video about these fittings on soft copper applications?

[@RogerWakefield]

I have it written down... though I personally would not recommend it..the teeth could bite through it eventually

[@patdud1979]

Sharkbite just released their new sharkbite MAX and they look awfully similar to quick fitting. I wonder how they would perform VS???

[@RogerWakefield]

Would be interested to see

[@jnash5137]

Roger, wow what a test. Since I currently have copper throughout the custom home and after your education I have refused hiring a plumber to install Sharkbite over soldering a leak repair. Later I needed to install a cutoff and the same old story...we don't solder now as it's not necessary...Sharkbite...I said no. I ended up having someone to install Everbilt 1/2 in. COMP x 1/2 in. COMP Lead Free Brass Ball Valve with Drain. How does the compression rate against the QuickFitting? Thanks, Jeannette

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

Good move. I solder whenever possible just like Steve Lav, he's huge on the Tube for plumbing repairs. But my next option which is flameless and can be used with water in lines present is Compression fittings. They are far superior to sharkbite and home owner friendly since you only need pliers and thread sealant and pipe dope, at most. No major training necessary. Definitely use this method if doing yourself. Look at PB Plumbing (youTube) for Compression fittings install method.

[@jnash5137]

@@beerbeforebreakfast Thank you, I had a neighbor Offshoreman to install that compression ball valve going to several frostproof spigots. He used teflon tape & thread sealant & I have a very small drip to 8' bucket below that evaporates in basement (should I forget it or try again to get a man to barely (1/16) tighten the nut or spread more sealant on the thread? My deceased husband was the plumber, etc. and I try when making repairs make it look original. Plumbers these days want a fast buck and they are gone. Thanks again, Jeannette

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

@@jnash5137 well, if I was near ya I'd do it for nothing but your right fake plumbers are in it for money like any trade and don't worry about long term quality. It's sad situation. Your best bet is to turn off main water and added Teflon to threads and ferrule, then retighten. Most likely your thread tape is not on the sealing point. It will fill the voids and make a seal in your situation. Done it many many times when conditions are not absolutely perfect, like your issue.

[@jnash5137]

@@beerbeforebreakfast I have copied your instructions and will add that project to my To Do List. Thank you for responding and have a great Father's Day. Jeannette

[@mikefox5510]

@@jnash5137 it depends on how long it’s been leaking and how hard the water is. You have to imagine that that tiny drop is made by a extremely small high speed stream and the minerals in the water slowly eroding the metal thus creating a permanent pathway. Think of the Grand Canyon. I’d say go ahead and tighten it early in the day and if it gets worse you have time to call a plumber. Also note that compression fittings require me sealant as it is a metal to metal seal. Use lubricant to make it easier to tighten and that’s it. Over tightening it will also make it leak. Sorry about the long winded response

[@billsnyder6945]

Great video when considering options. The 75 year warranty vs Sharkbite 25 year is compelling and I wonder why an inspection panel is needed since even though the solder fittings outperform, pinhole leaks can still occur, and if a rarity so you have to remove drywall, so be it. I do have to wonder on the legitimacy of a 75 year warranty, who knows what companies will survive. At a minimum it seems an update is necessary to compare the new Sharkbite Max as well as other quick connect products although it is hard to keep track. The reality is the majority of people will not do extensive research to compare and will select based on price and ubiquitousness and Sharkbite being a Kleenex type branding will probably be around longer. It would be nice to see independent lab tests with a spreadsheet summary comparing results. There seems to be inherent biases with sponsorships and agreements to carry certain products.

[@ronlovell5374]

Love seeing test like that, Now what about freezing? because that creates those extreme pressures and the weakest points in systems are these fittings. I still believe press-on fittings are junk in cold climates but I'm curious about Smart-Click by Legend as it is push in permanent system that is not removable and has a spring loaded stainless steel clamp inside.

[@mrbit10]

I saw the smartclick as well but the question is copper to pex (fitting, have not seen), not just pex to pex or hyperpure (their brand pipe), i too don't trust sharkbite but have used propress

[@ronlovell5374]

@@mrbit10 Ya, smart-click has a transition fitting that basically has shark-bite or press-in one side for copper connection, Im not a fan of that!

[@josephfung9602]

​@@ronlovell5374 7:26

[@Mr.S_BuildsThings]

I gotta tell ya Roger, I'm a big fan of propress (mega press for gas too) I can't stand sharkbyte though (I refuse to use them outside of an absolute emergency and never guarantee that they will last)

[@RobertKiss-xc1jv]

could you please make a video like this about aquatherm?

[@sleektoneofficial]

I like good ol copper solder

[@scorpio6587]

Very impressive. What is a braze fitting?

[@andrewharmless8627]

It's when you use sticks of silver solder and much higher heat to apply. Usually copper fittings 2" and bigger although can be soldered need to be brazed. It's a stronger hold than soft solder.

[@scorpio6587]

@@andrewharmless8627 thank you!

[@andrewharmless8627]

@@scorpio6587 No prob! :D I've never personally done it myself, I've only soft soldered (using flux, torch and solder). We have acetylene bottles and sticks of silver solder at our shop though our commercial guys use who explained it to me. No flux involved. People will also fill the pipes with nitrogen sometimes I've heard to decrease the amount of time it takes as silver solder is very expensive.

[@RogerWakefield]

Check the new video this week…

[@akrocuba]

I work for a hug mechanical contractor. We have seen some place that want brazed joints on everything over 2-1/2". Soldering and brazing are far superior to these type of push/crimp joints but these fittings, I feel, have a place in residential and light commercial applications.

[@warlok9]

If anything, all these tests are proving sharkbites are actually amazing fittings that no one should hesitate putting inside a wall. they are rated at 200psi but fail at over 800 psi in this test. And the pull off strength is also over 800 pounds!!! Try putting 800 pounds pull off on your PEX A or B fitting and see what happens. This guy hates shark bites (because they are too simple to use apparently) so of course he still states proudly that the Sharkbite came in last place in this test. But it should be noted that the Pro Fittings barely edged out the sharkbites on both pressure and pull off strength. Notice in the video he never reveals what the fail pressure was on the pro fittings. He just skips over it. Leaves me wondering if it failed even SOONER than the Sharkbite did when it was just the quick connect and pro fittings on the pipe. (Shorter length pipe) This guy actually said in one of his older videos comparing pro fittings to Sharkbite fittings that he trusts pro fittings more because they require a $3000 tool to make the connection. Yeah, he literally said that. Turns out that $3000 tool only gets you 10% extra holding strength over Sharkbite and that's it! When I comment on these videos I always like to state, no, of course I wouldn't plumb a whole house or even a whole room with Sharkbite fittings because of cost. But I would never hesitate to use them in ANY residential scenario I would use PEX or copper, inside walls or not! This test proves their worth. When you compare fittings they should all be compared as installed by a competent installer. You can't compare a Sharkbite incorrectly installed by a homeowner to a sweated fitting installed by a professional unless you are willing to compare a Sharkbite installed by a professional vs a sweated on fitting incorrectly installed by a homeowner. Sharkbite fittings have been lifesavers for me and my business on certain jobs and when installed correctly, just like any other connection, they are completely safe and will not leak, blow off or pull off.

[@mycaddigo]

Shark bite commercial came on 😂😂😂 no joke

[@bloodbonsx0496]

Hey I’m from Rhode Island thinking about getting into plumbing

[@joeshmoe7789]

Since residential water pressure is less than 100 PSI, I'd say anything over 500 PSI doesn't matter. Water heater relief valve is about 150 PSI, well under 200. If water pressure goes over 500 PSI, I think you'll have bigger things to worry about than one fitting blowing apart. For residential plumbing, as far as pressure ratings are concerned, I'd call it a draw.

[@cfldriven]

While it great that it can withstand such high pressure, in a typical home isn't this overkill? No mention of pricing, but wouldn't the cheapest work good enough for the average home?

[@RogerWakefield]

If you’re a homeowner or plumber who is thinking about installing a push to connect fitting wouldn’t you want to install the best there is? QuickFitting outperformed Sharkbite on every test. If I’m doing a repair on my mothers home I’m installing the best there is.

[@cfldriven]

@@RogerWakefield Thank you for the quick reply. I checked the big box stores, QuickFitting and Sharkbite are about the same price, although QuickFitting seems to be available only in packs of four. So it looks like ma might get the best, but I am not replacing her Chevy with a Rolls.

[@matthewmcphail5682]

I can't stand sharkbites so finding another product to carry on my truck to do what I use the odd sharkbite for is huge. I carry shut offs if I mess up and the house has a leak in the main shut off so I can't sodder, if I go out to a leak late and will return in the morning or if it's not safe for me to sodder a pex to copper adapter in due to an environmental factor. Love your videos, great job and keep up the great work

[@Bobbytrus12]

Nice video

[@paulross8821]

Where's the compression fittings in this test?

[@DontLookBehindYou1]

They all blew.... MY MIND!

[@user-gy7kx8zx8k]

Solder for the win

[@KLNYC]

thanks Hulkster

[@RogerWakefield]

My pleasure

[@mediaondisplay3089]

I feel like sharkbite did pretty well too. But these new quick connect fittings seem better, if they are the same price or cheaper than sharkbite I'd use them. Quick connect fittings can be really useful when doing plumbing in a wall and soldering a joint isn't really an option.

[@serpentinefire921]

Soldering a joint is always an option. Most people just don't like working harder than they're used to

[@mediaondisplay3089]

@@serpentinefire921 depends, there is also a liability issue. Like if you open up a wall to make a water loop for a softener but the lines are ran near electric lines or worse cpvc gas lines, its not really worth the risk to solder when a quick connect would work fine.

[@serpentinefire921]

@@mediaondisplay3089 it doesn't work just fine and this is why there are a multitude of different types of torches on the market. A real plumber has integrity and doesn't go for the easiest solution. Especially when we're talking about another person's fucking home. Shame on you. You probably install rheems

[@mediaondisplay3089]

@@serpentinefire921 and you are why tens of thousands of houses burn down every year. It's about safety, safety first then ego.

[@serpentinefire921]

@@mediaondisplay3089 literally never burnt anything down. You can have integrity and be safe. I'm not sure why you think you need to choose between the two. Keep installing those rheems and ao smiths tho. They keep me in business

[@pepperlewis1]

I have to get one of your shirts

[@kjfacilities-maint]

Quick Fitting is awesome!

[@MidMOGrower]

I still use shark bite since am not using pressure that will blow my lines. But understand you trying to prove a point that this is better than the other because it is a sponsored video.

[@travisk5589]

I am surprised that the crimp fitting was stronger than a shark bike.

[@robbyelizarraras2644]

You have to test sharkbite max now😂😂😂

[@aarongoldsberry4532]

What about bigger sizes

[@drakeanderson6473]

I mean I’ll keep soldering but good to know

[@z1522]

Probably correct re: relative pressure capacity - but 80-120 psi is a high range for home water pressure; SBite withstanding over 800 means it is still 6-10x over the normal range. What he does not mention is "water hammer," the phenomenon most likely to cause peak loads way beyond normal, and yet a separate issue relating to no relief air chambers that can absorb this peak - which comes when flowing water is suddenly stopped, by a valve or faucet. Scare tactics are a great way to sell plumber's services, but not professional.

[@pillar350]

My house water pressure is 80 psi knowing that I have shark bite fittings in my home, knowing that they can withstand eight times that pressure. I’m OK with even if it was three times the amount I’m not connecting these push connects to a pressure washer still good to know.

[@falleon66612]

We mainly use kelox fittings here in europe.

[@xmeltphace6x]

I feel like the bigger concern with all these fittings is the rubber o ring that seals the joint. Who cares if it holds a bunch of pressure when it’s the time the rubber joint stays in contact with water that is the main concern.

[@mattboucher9456]

All press fittings use o-rings too. In this case, everyone uses EPDM rubber, which will Last a very long time (longer than the pipe, typically) as long as it stays wet. (EPDM fails when it dries out.) obviously this won’t be a problem when it’s the o-ring next to the water.

[@byronlindsey3580]

Roger you sold me on the product. BUT I tried to find the part i needed and they referred me to Home Depot. That fitting didn't appear at Home Depot. I wasn't even sure if Quickfitting or Probite made it so I called sales (No Answer). Then I called their customer service (no answer). This is very concerning considering a "75 year warranty and they don't answer the phone" PS the part I needed and purchased was SharkBite 3/4 in. Push-to-Connect PVC IPS x 3/4 in. MIP Brass Adapter Fitting.