Testing Simucube Active Pedal at ADAC Simracing EXPO

[@jaytoppo1670]

Even though there is vibration on the Fanatec V3's, obviously inferior to SImucube's latest creation, I run the V3's on a Prosimu motion platform and when stationary you can feel the vibrations but once in game and driving, the motion kind of mute's the vibration so you don't really feel it, this Simucube variant will no doubt be helpful on motion platforms as it's obviously more designed to throw out stronger sensation.

[@Leynad778]

You can buy a dozen Buttkickers just for one of those pedals and one delivers a lot more than your V3.

[@damiendegrasse]

I unplugged the motor when I had V3s

[@T.S.CUSTOM]

I also unplugged them and completely removed them. Useless. Shakers are the way to go.

[@Sideways_Singh]

The v3s have vibration the simucube pedals have haptic feedback way more advanced, but the main thing is they have force feedback its all useless without ffb. The simucube pedals can take data from the game to provide accurate abs feedback for every car u drive in all conditions, wet, dry, the v3s u have to manually set the abs where u want it.

[@jahshjahsh2002]

perfect for different clutches

[@petersebastian_fi]

Great videos!!! 🤩May I ask what this curved screen in the video is?

[@kaijuh]

32" Odyssey Neo G8 4K UHD 240Hz 1ms Quantum HDR2000 It is what I have. Pretty awesome screen

[@petersebastian_fi]

@@kaijuh Amazing thank you!

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

These guys have the best sandwiches 🥪 👍☕☕☕

[@ivonakamauli]

If you thinkl our quick made sandwiches are best, you should visit us when you are in Croatia and try our simulator!!! :D

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

@@ivonakamauli 😂 I will ! I want to have the whole house shaking experience! Seriously can't wait to visit Croatia again, such an amazing country 😍 and friendly people ! I'll let you guys know if I am be great to meet up for some tea ☕

[@ivonakamauli]

@@GamerMuscleVideos wuuuuuu-huuuuuu!!!!!

[@iRacingbalkan]

Pozdrav legendo, hvala za video. Cjena je pretjerana kao i sve kod simcuba, mislim da nisu toliko bolji od fanateca i ostali igraca na simracing trzistu. Vozim 4 godine aktivno simracing i mislim da je hidraulika pa cak i dobar load cel pedala dovoljna da se kocenje dovede do perfekcije jer aktiviranje abs a vec osjetimo preko ffb. Bolje pare ulozit npr. Kupiti tu perfekciju od riga sto si ti napravio a ne neke njihove citerske kocnice, pravom rajseru to netreba. Jer znam da ce to zloupotrijebit npr. na autima koja nemaju abs poput gte klase. Zivio nemoj zamjerit sto ja malo udozih samo sam imo potrebo da napisem sta mislim.hvala

[@FlavioCadamuro]

Expensive, now living in South Africa, with poor exchange rate and 15% import tax on top of that, makes it , unfortunately, not an option for me. Great review

[@cat-yi9cg]

I'm using this pedal set with my Logitech g29

[@cat-yi9cg]

The price is reasonable. I already ordered the brake and can't wait to get it

[@reganstevenson9532]

If you say so

[@jcsquared1111]

What I do not understand is how is this more money than the wheelbase, and damn near double the price at that !! I would be all in on a set at 2k for 2 3k for 3 but this is just to crazy

[@T.S.CUSTOM]

I agree, the price is crazy steap but although it seems like the pedals should be cheaper they are actually a lot more complex product than the wheelbase. A lot more moving parts. It's the complexity that is pushing the price up and off course for now, they are the only one in the world having it. The the price will go down eventually.

[@jcsquared1111]

@@T.S.CUSTOM Seems like a complete game changers, I currently use simtrecs and love them, but deff have issues with figuring out when the abs hits so this would deff help. Hope they come down in price. As 2k im in

[@zemi2750]

Other companies will have a response to these.. in time. We gonna have to wait it out. I'm still happy with my V3's anyways. The pricing is ridiculous, you can buy a top of the line motion system instead, F those guys.

[@Leynad778]

That's not the next thing, because it doesn't work like in a car at all while the other paddles kind of doing it similar and certainly never for this price anyway. You get a great motion-setup for three of those pedals that deliver all effects you need without messing with your inputs if setup properly. I'm using shakers for tactile feedback since 2016, first with SimVibe, now SimHub and my first shakers were costing me 30 € each plus amp. Now I'm running a SimXperience GS-5 with G-Belt and 7 shakers delivering full body 6 DOF feedback for the price of 3 of those. And with pedals you just want consistency and control over them, not the over way around.

[@erwinvandikkelen3790]

How wouldn't you keep control and consistency over these? They just provide feedback from the game itself, kinda like current DD wheels. It's actually something i miss when braking now, that thin line between locking up or not, now you have to visualize it and get the wheel feedback from sliding and act towards that, losing valuable response time. If you could feel it in the pedal itself, your reaction time would be much faster i recon. These new pedals will probably just be the start of it, with more companys getting into this, prices will hopefully drop a bit, for now they can ask whatever they want ... especially with their wheelbase reputation. If they would drop the price towards 50%, they wouldn't be able to keep up with production probably 🙂

[@Leynad778]

@@erwinvandikkelen3790 Servo-motors can only rotate a shaft, not push/pull it. Actuators gearing this rotation into a push/pull shaft like a driller and because of that transmission, the fastest ones I know can do 300 mm/s, which is about 1 km/h. I can certainly hit my clutch faster than 300 mm/s and I feel enough details from my two buttkickers near the pedals even through shoes. So I don't see any significant advantage with these pedals other than not having to switch rubbers or springs to get a different feel, but probably for the price of being less responsive. There is a reason they have not setup any clutch-pedal on their Expo-stand and I guess because the clutch-funcion kind of sucks.

[@RacingWithChuck27]

@@erwinvandikkelen3790 a race car pedal doesn’t vibrate right before lock up. This is just an expensive gimmick

[@Leynad778]

The chassis vibrates when the tyres are scrubbing and decent shakers like Buttkickers with SimHub are doing a proper job simulating this sensation more or less, but certainly with a similar principle. Actuators on the other hand are by design not recommended for the job especially if they have to do other duties like moving a rig or a seat, and probably also if using them as pedals. The only way those Simucube pedals can be 'beneficial' is by using them as a cheat by lowering brake-input on wheel-lockup for example, so basically acting as an artificial assists, a function sim-racers usually despise in games. I also find it suspicious that Simucube showed a cross-section in their CAD-design to reveal how it works, almost like they want their competition to copy it. I can just guess, but I wouldn't approve this concept because it looks like BS to me. There is a rail-system inside hat probably needs more attention over time than a ball-bearing in a normal pedal and it isn't sealed either. It probably works decent as a brake and the price is so high, probably >90% of people are only buying one as a brake. For this purpose it seems fine, but not for throttle and clutch.

[@RacingWithChuck27]

First, to use it for a clutch, you still need 3 pedal 😯 And the price is just plain crazy

[@damiendegrasse]

I'm thinking about it, but I'll only go for the brake. I'll keep HE gas pedal, use wheel clutches. I will be selling some things I've collected over the last 2 years as nothing can stop me getting this.

[@T.S.CUSTOM]

You can just take the brake pedal and combine it with some other pedals for gas and clutch. This is where I see the most usage scenarios.

[@astraljourney2894]

I love my Simucube 2 pro, money well spent and without regrets, but these pedals, however beautiful and innovative, make nosense for 95% of simracers. Instead, they are perfect for real professional pilots when they simulate. We always hope of superior technology at lower cost and long life companies that have the courage to innovate. Simucube, also think of the poor people who need cheaper and innovative pedals

[@KHMR1SNV]

Simucube will be lucky if they sell any full pedal sets with a ludicrous price like that.

[@cnchobbyist991]

The first pre-order batch is sold out.

[@KHMR1SNV]

@@cnchobbyist991 More fool the people that have bought them, biggest scam in sim racing. You can literally achieve the same feedback from a buttkicker/bass shaker under your pedal plate for £6000 less.

[@cnchobbyist991]

@@KHMR1SNV I don't think they sell many full pedal sets. On their website it is stated that the ActivePedal is best used as a break pedal, and that you can combine it with other throttle/clutch pedals. I'm a DIYer myself so I get your point, but the software side is the most valuable aspect of this pedal in my opinion.

[@KHMR1SNV]

@@cnchobbyist991 Over 2k for one pedal is ridiculous.

[@erwinvandikkelen3790]

👌Too bad the price is just completly insane, 2500euro for each pedal 😵‍💫 (p.s. car is the McLaren GT3, not the most stable car to use for a demo :-) )

[@T.S.CUSTOM]

Well, you get some discount if you buy a set of 3. 🙂

[@AndreMiguelLopes69]

@@T.S.CUSTOM Sure 250€ in 6500€ ? But in reality there are many deep pockets that will buy this. And as you know we only need one for the Brake. Clutch and Trottle can be from another brand.

[@irlantiisti2810]

Try Dualsens ps5 and you will understand how he feels with his feet. The principle is identical to that of Dualsens ps5. If the wheels should be blocked. The triggers will not allow you to squeeze the trigger to the end. And exactly as much as necessary so as not to block the wheels. In my opinion, I use a much better and more accurate brake without ABS-TC without active triggers. I think the user of these pedals feels the same way. The instinct of the skill tells you that the brake can be pressed much more strongly. But the pedal won't let you do that. Because of what there is a disagreement between your intellect and what your legs do. And software active triggers or pedals. Because the program thinks that you brake too late and too early. Because of what it will be resisted in every possible way to press the pedal to the maximum. It may be suitable for beginners, but definitely not for experienced Load Cell players.

[@nejcmirtic529]

The ABS activation comes from the in-game telemetry, so ONLY when the ABS actually kicks in on the car, the pedal starts to output ABS FFB. That is not the same predetermined threshold as the Fanatec V3 pedals BLI setting, which vibrates every time you hit a certain pressure threshold (there is an option to use the in-game telemetry too, and it will start to rumble when you trigger the ABS). So I don't understand what you are trying to implicate with your post, because if it starts to vibrate you already activated the ABS, and you are NOT driving on the edge of the limit, but OVER the limit.

[@irlantiisti2810]

@@nejcmirtic529 The Dulshok PS5 has active triggers, there is no vibration or vibration motor. I will say more Simcube used this SONY technology in the development of these pedals. To understand what Sony active triggers are, you just need to try it. It is strange that in every possible way you are trying to pretend that you do not understand what it is about. Everyone can check how it works on Dualsens ps5 +PS5 +acc adjust FFB force, trigger resistance and torque. Doesn't look like anything 🤔 Simcube pedals 😉

[@nejcmirtic529]

@UC9M2PuBwcvt-T5j--9-4j0Q Forget about the price, it isn't relevant to the debate. So I guess you have never driven a real car. When you overheat the brakes, the pedal becomes softer/squishier, when you hit the ABS treshold, the pedal changes the feel completely, when in a servo assisted brake system the vacuum level changes, the pedal stiffness and level changes. Then if you ever looked at a race car pedal footcam in some of the clips you can even see how they have to pre-pump the pedal due to the pad knock back. And the pedal is meant to be able to simulate all that. But hey have it your way. I know I won't be chainging the pedals due to the cost and size, but it is a really good design concept.

[@Jpilgrim30]

If someone can make some software these could be made diy fairly easily for WAY cheaper.

[@T.S.CUSTOM]

The software is probably the most expensive and crucial part. It's the software that makes the difference in Simucube wheelbases compared to all others. I don't believe it could be done way cheaper, a bit yes, but the time invested would be crazy.

[@rjung_ch]

👍💪✌

[@AdamsOlympia]

Seems like it'd be wasted resources to use this for throttle pedal. Just slap a small bass exciter under a regular gas pedal ;) ..

[@T.S.CUSTOM]

Agreed. One bas shaker for entire pedal assembly works like a charm.