Wow, I wasn’t expecting this from ALP. I’ve seen lots of tests where it got boring testing ALPs because all they did was jam. Looks like it’s time to sell my first born and get a Uniden.
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
I'm really curious to see what we see in testing in October, especially if ALP finishes up some of the algorithm changes they're working on...
@SloDwn11352 ай бұрын
@@VortexRadar Fortunately for those around me, they mostly face ProLaser, TruSpeed, and Stalker. For them, PTs on those are a lot more concerning than PTs with DE. Especially if they happen >400 ft out. The admittedly small sample size of tickets I see from around here mostly center around 1,000ft +/- 500ft. I once saw one that was somewhere around 150ft near a school zone, but it seemed like an outlier. With my driving habits, I’m thinking if I could avoid a PT until 400ft, I’d have a save in the vast majority of cases. In the cases where I’d get hit at close range, I’m generally not pushing things, and in the rest, I generally get hit far enough out that I could make an adjustment before PT. Still, I’d rather have JTK, which makes the Uniden look very appealing.
@PeakedHill21 күн бұрын
I’m not buying it… I will stick with what I have! ALP has worked great for me for 4 years👍
@gonzoprius35892 ай бұрын
Did any of the systems throw a jam code on the any of the guns?
@zunar_j5_9332 ай бұрын
Good question!
@lorenzonencioni41352 ай бұрын
Exactly the same question I was about to ask😅 But yea I would like to know as well, especially on the TruSpeed guns
@skypallman61692 ай бұрын
It just gives normal errors like if they don't get a good shot at your vehicle.
@velocity4260Ай бұрын
@@skypallman6169So let’s say you install jammers in states that are illegal in, technically the officer who’s shooting you wouldn’t know you’re jamming their lidar gun right? Unless they pull you over and inspect your vehicle.
@khamid1Ай бұрын
@@velocity4260 Where I am from the cop will pull you over anyway, bullshit and do you for the speed anyway because they are "trained to estimate speed". If you argue they will then search the vehicle claiming reasonable suspicion and make life very hard. It's easier to just run lol
@brandonkushner77512 ай бұрын
Surprising test results! I am running an ALP system with 4 heads up front and 3 in the rear. For Tennessee, where is the testing happening in October? I’d love to join.
@hydra475Ай бұрын
Could you make a video on the ESCORT ZR6 Laser Shifter and maybe pare it with the Redline 360c (Extra ideer show off their dashcam aswell, maybe all Escort system setup, Radar + Laser Detection and Shifters + Dashcam) Would really like that.
@kyledickie9622 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work. This data is wonderful to have.
@WSKRBSCT2 ай бұрын
FYI, that ALP (I believe) warning (buzzing) is how a Fuzzbuster sounded in the 1970s - minus the voice. My grandfather had one.
@darylhaack77522 ай бұрын
Wow. That was a lot of great info. Thank you so much for your time dedication. Cheers
@cd99542 ай бұрын
Really hope ALP can get their shit together
@ParrotHead198013 күн бұрын
Wow! that Uniden R9 laser jammer is a BEAST!!! love to see it beat out the ALP which to me is over priced and doesn't even perform as well as the escort. When they make the uniden laser jammer a stand alone thats when I'll be purchasing. Great video and results Vortex Radar 👍
@raroxburgh2 ай бұрын
Thanks as always. Yeah, not sure what's up with ALP but I hope they have plans to improve. I am invested in alp, so it would really suck If I have to change out my entire systems because they cant keep up.
@brandtharen2 ай бұрын
Very interesting results. I still haven't decided on installing a system yet and this certainly changes which systems I'm considering. Looking forward to the behind the scenes info and any updates you get from future tests and the manufacturers.
@audiovideotech977724 күн бұрын
The Kiyo ProPark 3 is a old school Laser Mimic. It's a LED jammer and does well against Gen 1 & Gen 2 Lidar guns.
@eugenekozlowski19492 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this vid. Not sure if you put this vid out b4 or after u spoke solely about the new alp cpu. If I saw this test I could have not made bumbling comments and questions to you. You were still kind enough to answer. I think what everyone can agree that Mr Vortex is the “gold standard” of the CM field.
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
No worries. Yeah this video was released first and then the CPU video second. You can see when the videos were posted under the video itself.
@rowdybroomstick63942 ай бұрын
What parking sensor works with my R8? Mostly KA around here but I heard their is some lazer. My R8 sniffed out SP at 2.9 miles today. I guessed it at 1.5+ but when I dropped a pin on google maps and measured the distance it said 2.9! How does that even happen? Only had this uniden a week and it's already done several 1+mile alerts. Keeps this up and I'm going to buy DJI action camera so I can record these long distance alerts. Guess i can film the first blip and reset the trip meter until I pass the source, otherwise no one will believe it.
@TheGuruStud2 ай бұрын
I've gotten 4 miles on 9500ix once upon a time. Straight highway has crazy ranges. Night atmospherics help, too, I'm sure (low inversion layer). Cop was at the bottom of a dip in rolling hills and I got alerts towards the top of every hill.
@MobileConcepts12 ай бұрын
Speaking directly to ALP in Croatia, they actually recommend 2 TX and 1 RX sensor in the front as the standard installation with HW.6, and adding a 2nd RX sensor for larger vehicles.
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
There’s been a couple tests and it does well on DE’s but struggles on some other guns. For example: www.rdforum.org/threads/140265/
@carspear2 ай бұрын
Vortex, I could write a thesis but i will keep it short. I am glad to see the test results firstly. Thank you to you and the team. I was onboard the Escort system the day it was released. What these tests are proving now are all my posts on the forum saying this point. Nobody listened to me. I actually got nasty PM's and doubts on whatever i posted on the forum. Anyways I am out of there now. In addition, Escort had told me to put 4 heads in the front on my M5, and 2 at the back. Ive seen the 4 heads perform great. Im not sure about the back though with 2. I look forward to your Tennessee test. Great job and keep it up!! Love your content!! Cheers, Carspear!
@Qwertyj1322 ай бұрын
You have always been an Escort fanboy.
@daveguthrie52292 ай бұрын
great info as always. thanks
@aaromon432 ай бұрын
been following laser jamming tech for a while, i think the r9 will be hands-down the best option if they offer the jammers as stand-alone for less money.
@twotoned27742 ай бұрын
I see in the comments the guy said don't speed and you don't need jammers, however, it's not all about speeding. I like the fact of having it as a hobby. It's going to be a blast to install. Plus, if I do speed, I'll be protected (mostly).
@loseerich4932 ай бұрын
'Just don't speed' is fantasy land. There's virtually nobody on the road that isn't speeding at some point, even if they're not wanting to be speeding. People get distracted, there are actual 'speed traps' etc.
@checkmate19962 ай бұрын
My wife got pulled over for speeding and wasn't even speeding but still got the ticket. She was in another state so not much she could do about it. Speeding tickets is a revenue game. They got their toys we got ours...
@flavioc53892 ай бұрын
I will eagerly wait for Stinger response. I'm considering their system for some time.
@johnliu68552 ай бұрын
What if... You ran multiple laser jammer systems at the same time near each other? Would that cause any interference? Or would it help protect you from any punch throughs? Additionally, if one ran something like the ALP in the front and TMGs in the back of the vehicle, they should be fine right (other than the cost installing more CPUs and a different system)?🤔
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
Bad idea unfortunately since the jammers can get confused and start trying to jam each other instead of the laser gun.
@XxbethebestxX2 ай бұрын
Was just gonna ask this ?
@NickMurray2 ай бұрын
Amazing work you do.
@ZuffenhouseАй бұрын
Any sense of how prevalent the dragon eye is among law enforcement?
@Mikej345hАй бұрын
Please do go over the tests of the jammers . Would be a great updated video
@VortexRadarАй бұрын
Yep, we had a massive shootout last weekend and I'm now waiting for people to compile and share all the results.
@markmiller45952 ай бұрын
We've had a lot of excuses from ALP over the past ~5 years and for some reason, people continue to give them the benefit of a doubt. How many years have we been dealing with newly launched green & black heads that don't work as promised???
@brentmnichols7923 күн бұрын
Do you think Uniden will eventually sell the laser jammers separately for the R3,R4, and R8 or force to an upgrade of the R9?
@southfloridanick2 ай бұрын
Remote installed RD and LJ just too damn expensive.
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
Yep, it's not cheap, especially after you factor in labor. A windshield mount radar detector and Waze is a much more affordable setup.
@Yeg_stancedАй бұрын
Will any of these work for the r8?
@manrex5238Ай бұрын
Yes the “best” but not perfect is for rich 🤑 lol😂😂😂 see you forgot to say that then the best option for most people is the XTP but also not for everyone cause 1,000 dollars I don’t know for you for me is lot of green let alone 5,000 but…thanks for the video pretty informative.
@liliapamela18932 ай бұрын
Which laser is mostly used in Washington? Preferably thurston county
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
I mostly see TSS and PL3/PL4
@rmp5s2 ай бұрын
It'll never not baffle me that lasers are regulated by the FDA...so friggin weird.
@Constabruity25 күн бұрын
Has to do with the eyes I think. Still a bit odd though.
@Jeff-ef1xj2 ай бұрын
Really disappointed and concerned with the ALP. Hope they can make some quick improvements to bring dragon performance back up to what it has been in previous years.
@Izaza4332 ай бұрын
Do you have any more info on the acrylic cover?
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
Custom made by my installers using smoked acrylic
@bryanc78562 ай бұрын
Hello Vortex, I have the redline Ci 360c. What kind of installation issues were you having? I have no way to test and am worried there could be an issue with it. Also, do you know if the redline's are finicky with placement or are they more like the uniden's? Thanks
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
I had 1 Regular head in the center and 2 TX heads by the headlights installed, basically flipped from what it was supposed to be. I went back to get 2 Regular heads by the headlights and then a TX in the center.
@atody23 күн бұрын
Most laser guns, if not all, have a beam divergence of 2.5 milliradians. Shooting a target vehicle at a distance of 100 meters would produce a beam diameter of 25 centimeters on the target. On a bigger car you'd need ~6 front heads to cover that. Is my math correct here?
@VortexRadar23 күн бұрын
In the real world officers target different spots around the car, not to mention cars are moving and there’s handshake from the officer’s end so you can get away with 3-4 just fine.
@geneobrien89072 ай бұрын
What is the name of the material that you used to cover the heads and do you have a source?
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
It’s smoked acrylic that my installers custom fabricated.
@geneobrien89072 ай бұрын
@@VortexRadar Thanks!
@dionroman36772 ай бұрын
I currently have the Redline 360c. Getting the laser heads added to my unit from Escort will it compare the same?
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
Which ones? Their ZR5s or ZW5s? Those are older gen jammers and have been out of stock for a while. The ones I tested here are better, but only for the Redline Ci 360c.
@dionroman36772 ай бұрын
@@VortexRadar Thank you. I just didn't want to get a whole new system.
@lile4life7132 ай бұрын
Wsp coming to your house with going to your house with this one
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
haha
@TWSmith422 ай бұрын
Well, wow.. Maybe going with 4 heads in front is good, but that only leaves 2 in the rear, so .... How about using a splitter cable on the end of each cable and running 6 heads in front (off 3 cables with splitters) and 3 in the rear? Also, it sounds like Uniden (I have an R9 and an R3) is pretty damn good, but doesn't that make jammers mass market, so everybody and their mum will be using these things and states will start banning them? Finally, we need to do something about those damned DragonEye guns.
@rowdybroomstick63942 ай бұрын
Hopefully the plug and play version for the uniden R8 isn't astronomical expensive. But if I had to guess I would say probably twice the value of a new R8. So likely 1,499.00 That would be my guess.
@TheJensss2 ай бұрын
Does it work blocking the LaserCam 4?
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
That is the same as the PL3 and PL4 in terms of jamming. In other words it’s easy to jam and most any jammer can do so.
@TheJensss2 ай бұрын
@@VortexRadar Okay, thanks for the reply
@ryanoneil312318 күн бұрын
Ever feel your brain grow while watching these videos?
@VortexRadar18 күн бұрын
🧠++
@explorer1970202 ай бұрын
@vortexradar When are you coming to TN?
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
Early October www.rdforum.org/threads/140363/
@gzfrhbhsolution66202 ай бұрын
@@VortexRadar It appears that this thread is privileged at a level higher than what I possess on RDForum. Perhaps there is a better way for us to track this event...? I live in Charleston, SC, but I would like to know more about the Tennessee event. I have a TruSpeed Sxb that I can bring, fwiw. Thanks!
@alrashad20202 ай бұрын
What about poliscan cameras?
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
You’ll need to find someone with Poliscans in their area who can test, or test yourself and share the results with us.
@niteowltech-vw16182 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Testing, but I feel TMI on various things... You may have educated ones that we do not want to be
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
That’s always a balance. There’s a lot of stuff left out of these videos too, and lots of discussion beforehand on what to include or not.
@WICKEDRADAR2 ай бұрын
Reverse the r9 jammer heads using uniden software
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
Perhaps in another test
@WICKEDRADAR2 ай бұрын
@@VortexRadar alternate main head as t2 and other head as t1
@lewiskelly142 ай бұрын
You need to be clearer what these are actually for, For those of us that are first time viewers
@IceColdFever3520Ай бұрын
4000 for a laser jammer? ill just take the ticket 😂
@killthemall55Ай бұрын
It is not worth it if you street race and goes 150mph+ which is a felony speed.
@Grendelsbane2 ай бұрын
Why no tests with K40?
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
Because they’re awful and haven’t been updated since the last time I tested. No point in wasting my time.
@chrissugs8913Ай бұрын
If you live in a city like Austin where they defunded the police, you will not need any of these jammers. I drive 200 miles everyday and I am having to drive a minimum of 90 mph just to keep up with traffic which is ridicules.
@supersage7892 ай бұрын
Do these work against for dragoneye, i want a recommendation for a radar jammer and detector against these dragon eye laser , radar detectors and a radar jammer thanks
@VortexRadar2 ай бұрын
These are laser jammers, not radar jammers. The DragonEye is a laser gun.
@HVACOG2 ай бұрын
This is a lot of work. Give me the damn ticket. Lollllll jk!!!!
@Drivethisnotthat2 ай бұрын
Surprised your Q5 isn't deinking oil yet.
@PamelaCurry2 ай бұрын
I have a novel idea, DON'T BREAK THE LAW. I've driven a wrecker as a contractor for several police departments. DON'T SPEED and you don't need a jammer. Absolutely get a dashcam W/GPS to fight the occasional fraudulent ticket.
@wingsuitist2 ай бұрын
Haha pretty hilarious hearing a person who drove a wrecker tell other people not to break the law. You guys are some of the biggest offenders out there. And fraudulent tickets aren't "occasional." They happen all the time.
@rowdybroomstick63942 ай бұрын
@@wingsuitist Seen a rollback going past me like I was tied to a telephone pole a few day's ago, he never even slowed down coming into town. He was doing about 65 in a 45. No car on the back and no lights rolling. Not that lights rolling makes a difference because they don't have the right to anyway.
@DaveyCrockett12 ай бұрын
You stop drinking sweet tea and eating fried foods....you won't need your blood pressure medicine or cholesterol pills or insulin shots. Just don't put that in your body. Novel, right?
@RyanS4932 ай бұрын
Looks like you stumbled into the wrong place bud. Here, the door is over here. Have a nice day!
@avgbowler2 ай бұрын
Here's an idea mind your own business..... Sorry but some of us have places to go.... Speed limits are unreasonable and we did not have speed limits into peanut man got into office