Testing the Infantry Arsenal Update... Part 1 | 18/03/2022 PTS Update | Planetside 2 Gameplay

The Planetside 2 Infantry Arsenal Update is now on the PTS... Well, version one is. And we've got a lot to go through. Join us for part 1 of our Infantry Arsenal Update testing as we cover the general balance changes, the attachment overhaul, and some interesting loadouts you can now whip up! If you enjoyed the video backhand that like button! Feedback is always appreciated.
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[@CAMIKAZE78]

Let’s just say we showed those VR training targets who’s boss!

[@CherryNobel]

I could hardly kill anyone with the dark star before, now it’s even better 🥴

[@exorias625]

the scariiest thing about the patches is that the bx adapter on the jackal turns it into an anti max weapon with a few headshots

[@matthewpierce6076]

As someone who plays infiltrator 95% of the time, it's going to be wild to be able to assassinate a max.

[@noble_lemon]

Cyclone with ext mag already had this ability but everyone was ok with that. BX spin up time is too high for confronting even 1000 hp infantry, about max I generally keep quiet. Sneak attack will be a gamble with this noisy gun.

[@exorias625]

@@noble_lemon Iif you play it well you can cheese a few guys just have to be aware of your surroundings as an infil

[@CAMIKAZE78]

It literally comes close to one-clipping them... Insane stuff.

[@AimlessSavant]

And the description of the archer is "anti max weapon" **scoffs**

[@IratutheGreyKnigh]

So going to say this. I like the KCAP ammo as it does help me. Do too disability in my arm. Snappy shots on small spots are extremely hard for me. Hell, landing shots on the body at mid-range can be hard for me. And this has nothing too do with mouse sensitivity or some other junk. My arm and hand movement is jumpy. Just how it is after I jacked my arm up something bad at work some years ago. So even with 600+ hrs in this game I’m just happy to keep my aim on the body at all. So KCAP does wonders, it helps expand the “ok too shoot at” zone too the full body pretty much. The head clicking kids that can pixel hunt at 200m still have the leg up, they will still clap my cheeks. But at least I have something to help me do a little better despite my disability. But seeing so much… Pushback to that is sad. All this fussing that its harmful is insane. The headshot wonder kids are going too do better, lads that run this just get less bent over do too not matching that aim skill. Not everyone can reach the sample skill cap others can. Some of us can’t do it thanks to limitations outside of our control. I hope that is something some of you consider before screaming about how bad that ammo is and how its “harmful” to the game.

[@larzanthony2275]

Sorry to be blunt, but a game shouldn’t be balanced around disabled people. However, IMO it is a fine addition to the game.

[@jordansmith4040]

I have no disability, I'm just bad at the game. I like the idea of the "kneecap rounds." Seems fun - a concept many will consider foreign, but I assure is the best way to play the game.

[@IratutheGreyKnigh]

@@larzanthony2275 Not saying it needs to be balanced around such a thing. But it is a tool that helps me do less shit. What helps everyone in the game as well. If you have good aim that ammo is useless, if you have problems like me it makes me do somewhat less crap. I’m still at the disavateing and that is fine. I’m just happy to have something that helps me carry myself better for all my teammates. Too me that helps everyone.

[@Direblade11]

Yeah I saw no problem with kneecap rounds, other than lowering TTK which my outpopped ass isn't necessarily a fan of (VS on PS4, so it's exacerbated). I think those rounds will give a good cheese option that'd be funny especially when you can hide under a sunderer and get like 2-3 more kills than usual

[@BSEUNHIR]

@@Direblade11 I guess Kneecap ammo will be a lot more popular on console with controllers, hadn't even thought of that.

[@armvextheforgetful73]

As a TR KCAP ammo would fit us. It is in our doctrine to shoot the lower head, and then 3 rounds later it would hit the actual head. But with this ammo we should shoot the knee first.

[@matchesburn]

Here's the problem with that strategy however: it drastically reduces headshot damage. And with the current changes to attachments so that a machine gun doesn't become as accurate as throwing sand into the wind you can actually just aim center mass, pull and hold the trigger, and let the fire rate do its thing. Burst firing/tap firing due to the god awful bloom/CoF mechanics was what was really holding TR weaponry back in many cases. The weaponry only shines when it's dumping lead out at the fire rate it's supposed to be doing so at (which means you also need high frame rates - like 100+ ideally). Without that and TR weapons aren't really competitive. Now they will be. And that has *_some people_* very, very salty. And I love it.

[@flashtirade]

We live in a timeline where SAW DMR might be more than a meme loadout

[@CAMIKAZE78]

I'm all for this timeline, has to be said.

[@voltaicharbor6775]

I never expected a day where I’d actually be excited to pick up a BX Adapter. It has turned the jackal into a mini-mini chaingun

[@Erendil1453]

Possibly the biggest changes to Shotguns are slugs. Pump slugs can no longer OHK non-infils, and they can only OHK infils w/ a Headshot, and only out to 10m. However, they now 2HK to the body at all ranges. On Live they can only do that out to 31m (23m vs Nano). Semi-auto slugs can 2HK to the body on PTS out to 15m. They can't do that at all on Live. But probably most important change is their Moving ADS COF. As you mentioned, all shotties got reduced to .15. That's not so big a deal for the PAs who are at .3 on Live. But SA slugguns are at a monstrous .9 on Live. That's a HUGE accuracy buff, and their moving accuracy is now equivalent to 1st gen Battle Rifles. So slugs are basically ghetto high-powered Scout Rifles now.

[@matchesburn]

"Man, I wonder how Wrel screwed over the TR this ti-" [Wrel converts to the dark side and buffs the TR] "PRAISE BE TO WREL! THE LORD OF DAKKA IS PLEASED! LOYALTY UNTIL DEATH! STRENGTH IN UNITY!"

[@Psykmoe]

The RAMS 50m also got its reload speed buffed and is no longer statistically identical to the EM4 Longshot and the Parallax. Which seems like the kind of pointless change you implement so you look busy when a superior walks past. I work for the government, I recognize the signs.

[@Chimerathon]

When I read the description for the short barrel, my very first thought was of the Tanto. I already liked that gun, but with practically no hipfire bloom I think it may become one of my absolute favorites. The mobility of being able to hipfire all the time at any range is just insane, and also very fun.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

It's a true meme, I've got a feeling this will get adjusted over time personally.

[@TrazynTI]

As a tr with victim complex this does put a smile on my face, but the victim complex is still strong until something is done to the Trap-M1, removing it would be a ok too.

[@jamesconnor5923]

If we get angled grip on the trap it’s fuckin over. I’m one of the few to love the gun and have it auraxed. Looking forward to the attachments they allow on it.

[@armvextheforgetful73]

Recategorizing it in to scout rifle would be enough for me.

[@bushwookie2438]

@@jamesconnor5923 it has a compensator now

[@d3c0y39]

Yeah, trap is pretty fun, just treat it as a burst AR. Picked up PS2 again recently and I swear the recoil I remember from the soas20 and trap is non existent now :s

[@ghostbravo7127]

That thing deserves to be put into the scout rifle category.

[@urchinsify]

KCAP AMMO: Leg shots are far easier than head shots. Not that complicated. I can see it being useful for casuals who doesn't have top tier aim. I personally find it interesting and want to try it... If I was TR

[@missk1697]

as always, locking things behind factiongate

[@urchinsify]

@@missk1697 unfortunate, i wish you can earn certs on other factions while playing your main fac. I got almost everything unlocked on NC and would want to try TR but that would mean investing another 1000 hours to farm certs

[@ghostbravo7127]

@@urchinsify Just go in VR training and find your favorites, get the medic farm combo first, then you should be getting maxing each class in a weekend of medic farming. You don't need EVERY weapon, just your favorite couple on your favorite classes.

[@agentlord9872]

I don't think the bx adapter is going to be too overpowered as people say it is. It has around a 1 second delay which already puts you at a disadvantage at a head on engagement, not to mention that 1 second is nearly 2× longer than the average ttk which btw is a major factor that made the bx adapter in its current form pretty much useless in the first place (considering that you're only stuck with 9 rounds and only leaves you with 21 rounds on the base mag). With a proper positioning and awareness, this newly buffed attachments now encourages high skill high reward playstyle.

[@Orignlcoolguy]

this, you cant nerf skill.

[@danielcorrea3471]

it fires more than just 9 bullets though, no?

[@MasterSoda360]

@@danielcorrea3471 With this update, yes. Right now though the BX take 9 rounds away from your mag, and into a separate 1 click dump mag. After you fire, you have to reload the mag to use it again.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

I agree, it's going to take a lot of positioning, and prefiring to make work but... I can't help but wonder just how useful it's going to be at murdering MAXes in the real world.

[@DaxMarko]

The delay is enough for the enemy to turn you into swiss cheese, even as an infil you have to decloak first to spool up. I can see it punishing the oblivious and/or solo maxes. I bet its also gonna be fantastic on Heavy for completing the max kills ribbon, so you aren't stuck to using the slow ass decimator and can use striker instead.

[@t29hotrod75]

The Butcher getting 600 rounds is living up to its name

[@seaverbeaver]

I run the Jackal quite a bit and… well the standard bullets must have been replaced by *tactical superiority,* because there’s no way there’s enough bullets in that gun to do that to a max. About time TR got an overpowered infantry weapon…

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Welcome to the era of the SMG BRRRT Archer...

[@alek7998]

Connery would truly be proud

[@floydnimrod1826]

Exactly what I thought.

[@painovoimaton]

I'd say our Kindred is quite OP but hey, I'll take another one!

[@ghostbravo7127]

@@painovoimaton Sure, but remember what the other factions get for their carbines, yup, far more OP. We do have some incredible LMGs though, that is where the TR shine most.

[@dragontemplar4561]

Can't wait to try these new attachments on the TORQ-9 and standard T1 Cycler.

[@AltruisticSaint]

One thing that has not been addressed in planetside is end game. I know so many fps players that feel like that there is little sense of accomplishment in ps2. perhaps it would be good at the end of an alert to have a leader board display popup with stats from players and outfits. we could see which outfit performed the best. who was the best player in infiltrator class. which medic player had the most revives for the alert. their could be a constant display of these stats visible on sanctuary. would be great way to show off player stats and provide outfit bragging rights. with even a monthly display banner showing the faction with the most alerts won in sanctuary and their best outfit. i think this would make the game have some more sense of accomplishment instead of doing this rat race of alert after alert with no clear since of the victor throughout the month. this may motivate more players to be team oriented as well. some people need their winner winner chicken dinner. thoughts anyone?

[@Direblade11]

Thoughts? Amazing idea. You'd have some pretty toxic tryhard outfit leads though, telling you to MAKE EVERY OPS THIS MONTH FFS

[@honorguard7616]

the Kcap seems better for newer players (Effectively you still get a 50% bonus on headshots and you get a minor boost to leg shots that brings it to 171)

[@offmyface1]

I'd love K cap ammo for the lasher.

[@jackmaruyama6291]

the power knife nerf makes no sense without improving the meelee system in game which i would argue is severely broken, hitreg and being able to follow aim on a target and timing a knife swing is not good enough to throw power knives out the window

[@zebreble2883]

Ya especially if you or the enemy doesn’t have the best connection it can sometimes be impossible to hit people also whats the point of using the power knife if the-normal knife kills faster unless you have your knife out, activate its alt ability and some how hit a headshot

[@Direblade11]

Even more than before, it will be only a way to punish people who stand still. I guess using chat on a mountain is mildly less of a bad idea now

[@missk1697]

the power knife nerf was just dumb. The hitbox with that thing was already clunky as hell, and now you need to score 2 hits with it. Literally zero reasons to run it instead of amaterasu or regular knife. The only thing they did was making knife-main playstyle even more dependent on implants, which is another middle finger to the new players, just like the entire implants system.

[@atmassylphen6785]

Power knifes kill the same as the normal knife now, might as well use the basic knife.

[@strikeforce1500]

I'm glad the devs are making mayor changes to a lot of less used/Aurax weapons in the game, even if they don't get it right at first, because this is what PTS is for. Finally Aurax pistols, ARs and SMG are worth a damm, my Executive feels like a faster-ish Rebel. I do understand why the Heat ammo for the VS Aurax weapon got 'nerf', since heat would turn more common, and for me it's fine if they get some faster-ish cooldown. The shotgun changes, guys, I can't believe it, but NC got out-shotgunned. TR/VS bias confirmed /s. But from what I heard, now most Shotguns are more precise than the Jackhammer, so, yeah, uh, RPG you may want to check that. ~~Auto Jackhammer?, wink wink /s~~ The whole debuff ammo of VS does worry me since it is quiet powerful, especially since it is in a DMR. But if they are in pistols, I wouldn't say isnt that bad, but I don't see why Stalker Infil would use them lol Can't wait for Arbalest and Charger get their update on phase 2. With that said, PLEASE, let's hope it doesn't stay as a "Phase 1" thing lmao Lastly,come on Devs, if TR gets a mini chain gun with Jackal, give NC a triple barrel shotgun, ya know you want to. Don't deny it.

[@DemodiX]

Agree on VS heat weapons thing, they should at least make heat dissipate faster, if they go for less ammo in mag, but instead now it's less ammo and longer heat dissipation.

[@bbrot]

Still praying for vanu to have a close range beam weapon as a shotgun class like the focus rifle from halo but close range so you have to track the target for a period of time :P

[@gozo1985]

Thank you Cami ! Perfect video for ppl like me you have no time to go through the changes on their own

[@armandobelloso4802]

TR is actually scary with this new patch.

[@MikMoen]

Shooting someone on the other side of your Bus before they drop all their Mines is going to be a situation for that KCAP ammo.

[@pinorska6316]

tbh I wish they revert the heat mechanic mag reduction and just make heat mechanic weapons unable to cool down when in offhand

[@dokuganryu44]

Oh I’ve been waiting on this one!

[@BSEUNHIR]

Thank you so much for breaking this massive amount of changes down into digestible bits! I'm excited to see this change in the game. Attachments have forever been "right" or "wrong" and I hope more variety gives you options now. A lot of the numbers need to be reeled in, but I guess as long as that happens, it's better to start with inflated numbers because it encourages testing and finding the most overpowered combos. I'll get a new CPU at the end of April. The 5800X3D should finally allow me to play the game with (for me) comfortable fps - with shadows ON. Excited to give it another go then.

[@ownagemester]

I really hope more NC weapons get access to the sort of "faction specific" ammo types, because right now only 5 NC guns can use disruptor rounds. Plus why no heavy/short barrel on smg's? Gladius with heavy barrel would be sick

[@Direblade11]

Disruptor rounds seem like the most powerful of faction specific rounds. I do not want to see it expanded, making NC Heavies the most viable. As a VS player, more unstable ammunition just seems like a noob trap to me

[@ghostbravo7127]

NC already has the strongest overall loadouts, giving most of their weapons heavy shredders is going to be terrible. It should only be for niche guns that specialize in use of the ammo type without being overpowered.

[@zamiralbarran]

me puedes decir porque tus videos se ven con mejores colores y negros mas profundos? los editas o es asi tu monitor??

[@lechoucas3600]

Thanks for this video !!

[@zamiralbarran]

Can you tell me why your videos look better colors and deeper blacks? do you edit them or is that your monitor?

[@Mortisnp]

Any idea what changes are taking place with sidearms ? Also what new A7 Black market weapons are coming in and have changes been made to the old ones

[@ramon1500]

I love the idea of the kcap ammo it just is kinda funny and personally for me that's all it takes to make a good item or attachment

[@davidmccarthy6061]

And I can think of many times I've had only angles to shoot at legs which before doesn't affect hostiles much.

[@tigeralbatros9432]

Unlocked the Maxwell Ar on NSO a few days ago. While viewing the new attachments I realised, it is possible to increase the weapons ammo up to 38 rounds from 28, by equipping heavy and extended magazine respectivly. Or just slap on the cure grenades and use it on an ASP engineer, to act as a discount medic. Also it seems the NSOs get to keep the repairdrones because it is unlockable twice, once with Campaign standing and with certs. And don't get me started on the Newton. 2x headshotmultiplyer on an unstable ammo carbine having access to a shortbarrel + lasersight.

[@soldierhobbes1182]

I remember that part of the stream when we told you about the BX adapter. Lol, that was a wild ride.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

I'm still in shock now my friend.

[@Boyscout533]

The impact grenades are so much fun for the LA! I was using ambusher jets, and if you timed it right, you could chain the grenades with your forward momentum and cover alot of ground ridiculously fast.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Will be trying those things out very soon, don't you worry my friend. Looking forward to seeing what is possible with those things.

[@gunfumaster1024]

The MGR-1 Promise and EM1 with HBAR are gonna be fucking scary now.

[@sirgaz8699]

That KCAP ammo, can it be put on the MCG? You kind of can't not spray it so 20% bonus leg shots and no leg shot penalty could end up being more useful that the headshot damage.

[@TrazynTI]

Tanto is now a Titanfall gun.

[@elliottgaal9774]

I hope that nanoweave armor doesn't just deal with snipers but MAX and other AI weapons. It would interesting if it did different things depending on classes

[@ActualRilwer]

The limiting factor on the angle grip I’ve noticed is that the weapons it’s most effective on now can’t burst properly past 40 sometimes 30 meters. The Gauss SAW build is meme as hell, but even with a 1x scope the thing kicks too hard left and right to be consistent at 40 meters. You gotta tap after that range, other that that it’s a good attachment

[@kelmirosue3251]

Any new ammo types for NSO? I'm curious to see what they've gotten

[@stevem5814]

They took my router, now they're taking my activated knife! If the implants make the activated knife too powerful, then only apply the nerf if you use those implants. The activated knife is now the same as the default, but with a more narrow range. They are now both a 2 shot kill. Do you think I'm gonna shoot a guy once, take out my knife, then activate it, then stab them? Nope, I'm gonna shoot them a few times, then quick stab the with the superior default knife.

[@Roamingfirebat]

Agreed.

[@dxhunter9170]

Any changes specifically for the NSO?

[@codranine6054]

So tr and nc get new ammunition types for primary weapons but vs only get side arm ammunition?

[@MasterRedwing]

Part 1 of 78! Lets go!

[@catsndogs98]

Is heavy barrel better for sustained fire now?

[@PeregrinX]

You confirmed my conclusion after reading the Notes. The current Balance is currently shaking of! I hope those Massiv changes will create a new balance since a weapon balance of 3 factions is hardly impossible to do and till now the job was actually done pretty well! Let’s hope they don’t crush the Game with this Gamble…

[@DaxMarko]

Tanto was always a point-n-click gun. Despite the low damage, the headshots are super easy to land. You also don't even need to burst with it when ADS-ing. One of my favorite weapons in game to wind down with and get easy kills. The new attachments are just gonna bring more awareness to it, and great luck for people who are still missing one more medal for their auraxi carbine, cus they'll get to speed through it with tanto.

[@edwardmelvin9184]

So, is PS2 going to refund certs for all the changes? Allow characters to Respec? Or, if a prior purchase is nerfed, "tough luck"?

[@TBaron2865]

would've been helpful to display the short descriptions of the attachements (new or altered) when talking about them in the later parts of the video, otherwhise great vid!:)

[@EricLing64]

The legshot thing will be for chokepoints aiming down stairs, you see their feet first. Not sure why else it exists. Why does the Gauss Saw have no bullet drop? Thought that was a VS only thing. Not to say its hard to compensate, but that is a bit strange.

[@MK-rc3pq]

Just out of curiosity...does the SABR get an angled grip?^^

[@jurxnator279]

yes but it doest help it,

[@RickRate]

crazy stuff man

[@DemonKnight94]

Sweet, i was thinking how good would Gauss Saw be with angled grip but the DMR build looks nuts.

[@CAMIKAZE78]

It is raw filth, has to be said.

[@finnosmers]

What the BX is supposed to do that? I thought it's bugt. I love the old BX. The new one feels a little bit odd to me.

[@VimmiiPOV]

As someone who already enjoyed the Jackal, well, now I am excited to see how many maxes I can smack

[@kompatybilijny9348]

TR specific ammo could be really good on chaingun.

[@ghostbravo7127]

It isn't available, sad I know. On the other hand, 2x headshots are fun.

[@dra6o0n]

Something I notice in these videos. The resolution shown is way higher and more clarity when you watch it on a 1080p monitor, but the ingame scoping and UI does not match this experience. In fact it's much tinier if you play at 1080p, which tells me people have a much bigger advantage with bigger resolutions in general?

[@Igor369]

Pretty sure kneecap ammo will still be more useful than vented power core...

[@fantasmilfilms100]

DANG. Excited about the changes to the Jackel.

[@adamguy3]

what about changing nanoweave to 20% damage reduction on the FIRST shot (with like a 6 - 12 second refresh timer). would fit well against snipers and shotgunners. have minimum effect vs machine guns

[@Krugmatik]

any firestorm buffs? I like it for TR

[@bigpapastalin601]

Heh he thought I was kidding about jackel, am happy to see it made as video

[@CAMIKAZE78]

It had to go in the video after that man, no doubt.

[@thedrone8403]

I just hope the immortal still has a suppressor and a decently sized mag because i plan on going for it now.

[@Buckman151]

I disagree with the knife assessment. The whole point is to get close and you cant one hit kill unless it's fully equipped. It suits a very specific type of player and you have to grind implants to get to the point that it's fun. I can understand a veteran player being annoyed by this but it is one of the fun playstyles that new players want to explore. I think this is a pore chance in general for Planitside.

[@HomicideJack187]

That BX adapter though...

[@medomaigrey7512]

I used to be an adventure like you, but then I took a KCAP round to the knee. Sorry, I could not resist.

[@Erendil1453]

You're not alone. This joke was flying left and right all over on PTS yesterday.

[@davecrupel2817]

I have never in my 8 years in this game, nor likely ever will, be able to consistently do headshots. I just don't have the neural reaction time for it. So the kcap ammo will be a godsend for less-than-pinpoint shooters like me.

[@gpheonix1]

I noticed that the bandit does pretty good with the angled grip.

[@mypfpiswhatourphonesees4294]

very nice, also can you address the hacker problems in the game? maybe then the devs will actually listen because you have a platform lol.

[@ChertovBaobab]

I think the Bishop with that 1st shot recoil reduction will be my favourite weapon.

[@TakeItEasy.]

don't get too attached (lol). I suspect the biggest offenders will likely get nerfed in the next PTS update.

[@EspressoInSpace]

Kinda curious how the skill gap will close with the introduction of the heavy barrel. And I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not

[@peterzuurbier4506]

It might make it wider cus salty vets are even more accurate now, and it might let newer players feel like they don't have to aim at the head as much, who knows!

[@CAMIKAZE78]

I mean, I've got a feeling that most vets are going to run it on a bunch of weapons which'll just make them more accurate too. It's a scale that has slid I think.

[@leroyj9044]

Personally, I think medics have been sleeping on the burst rifles to begin with. They are (with a little bit of mouse discipline) straight upgrades over the default ARs before the patch. On the jackal, that is not really a big deal, it could already 1 clip a max with the 30 round mag. Another sneaky gun that devastates max units is the spiker, which can theoretically kill a max unit in about 8 seconds (2 full charge shots).

[@erayergi]

i was already using the NSX Tanto as a LA drifter headshotter so i'm not really seeing a buff there :D that aside, BX adapter is finally gonna be useful, noice :3 also kcap ammo is way too situational but will probably help newer players deal a bit more damage against drifters and c4 fairies

[@CAMIKAZE78]

I mean... There's a pretty considerable buff to the Tanto in the sense that it can still score those all too critical headshots, you just don't need to take breaks in a burst to beam someone down now.

[@pancakeplays1988]

This new patch is going to be exciting! :D

[@kylehandrahan6953]

"The TR Victim complex ceases to exist today!" - BX adapter immediately nerfed by 50%. lol

[@michaelrice2156]

KCAP ammo for when you are shooting down on targets when all you can see is their legs :)

[@Lobos222]

03:00 They need to give the power knife a bit more range for this to be viable. Because often you cant hit a person that is moving in any direction. The range is too short when the character slows down to do a slow swing. Forcing people to hit twice just means that you wont hit at all because the hit detection range is too short.

[@ebgamer29]

Super excited for these changes, except that NSOs seem to be getting even more shafted than usual. Maybe I'll be switching back to the NC character to take advantage of those EMP mines

[@ebgamer29]

Also holy shit let's just delete the SAW at this point. Hard for a new player to learn, and easy for a new player to get annihilated by. The SAW, with the proposed attachment versatility, is one of the worst possible things for the game. The jackal is rapidly approaching that territory as well, but we'll see

[@nerd4tw]

this is great and all, but how about more dynamic weapon models - especially the older copy/paste models

[@chickenbradly]

The knives needed some tuning, but removing the power blade niche seems a bit overkill. Mby they could've added a slower swing while it's powered up or give it a heat based mechanic (only so many swings till you have to wait) so we don't get those rambo infil's

[@tprtiger]

Just aim for the head like literally everyone else has to

[@SalandFindles]

The KCAP ammo is being introduced to help people score kills who aren't quite yet skilled at the game yet. More or less a spray-and-pray ammo.

[@Megan-ii4gf]

which only TR gets because we all know TR is the noob faction :(

[@t29hotrod75]

@@Megan-ii4gf mostly cause TR recoil on guns is straight horizontal.

[@tprtiger]

We love to see people learning and building horrible muscle memory. I’m sure it will do them well as a PS2 player in general and won’t hurt them in the long run whatsoever. Goodluck if they ever switch factions, they’ll have to throw unstable ammo on all Vanu weapons and just skip Nc entirely

[@jurxnator279]

Angled foward grip arent recomeded in most tr guns except in very few ones

[@Terranos77]

How about doing again the heavy cheeser all over again ? T9A Btucher with extended mag assimilate and firestorm and T7 mini-chaingun. Pretty curious of what that would give now with these changes

[@CAMIKAZE78]

Is it bad that I was already considering this?

[@Terranos77]

@@CAMIKAZE78 it ain't bad but ... *put on the palpatine outfit* you gotta DO IT Let the dakka flows into you Addendum : I already have the lore reason for the heavy cheeser number 2. After bringing the only true way of the galaxy known as dakka, this veteran chose to bring even more dakka to his ennemies as there is nevere enough dakka. He broke into the armory of the TR and began doing frankenstein stuff to his favorite weapon. Now he's able to deliver double the dakka to "whom it may concern". And atop of that, he modified his and now he's tankier. Bringing joy and lead to any opponent he might face

[@ghostbravo7127]

I'm more of a Watchman and Chaingun guy myself, but yes, the dakka gods have blessed us.

[@noahloyd9176]

Honestly, I feel like this is the sort of revitalization the game has needed for a long time. The problem has been, for years now, that there's something like 1-3 weapons on each faction that essentially everyone will gravitate toward - at least, everyone who wants to dunk on other players with the faction 'kings'. We all know what weapons those are. And most of us are probably pretty tired of seeing them time and time again on every single battlefield. Simply *having* access to this plethora of mix-and-match, impactful attachments means that, in theory, any weapon in every player's arsenal can be toned into a perfect killing machine for that player's hands. As it's been, for so long, each player will probably find a handful of weapons that feel 'right', but may still find themself forced into using a meta weapon just to compete. I can't tell you how many times I've been trying to enjoy my TMG-50, and having to break out the MSW-R instead to fight off a horde of Gauss SAW spammers. Or rocking the Cougar or Jackal, and having to pull out the tired old Armistice to compete with a Gal-drop Cyclone pro squad, when I honestly don't like the weapon at all. If a certain other F2P, arsenal-rich game that came out at around the same time as Planetside 2 (I'm talking about Warframe), is anything to go by, giving players the option to make anything in the game viable gives them that many more ways to approach combat, that much more skill to accrue, that much more to experiment with and strategize about. Game companies seem to be losing sight of this, but the average gamer isn't an idiot; we can think, and we like to think sometimes, so giving us something to think about, about how we can make our character in a game be unique on a virtual battlefield, is scintillating. I imagine I'm not the only one really looking forward to taking some unsung underdog of my dusty old arsenal out with a fresh batch of attachments and their synergies to rampage across Auraxis like no man has ever before. Meta arsenals in games get stale fast. Varied arsenals are so far from a bad thing. It gives replayability, it expands the experience; a different loadout is akin to a different game entirely sometimes. Me, I'm really looking forward to this. Now, all I want for Christmas is for them to bring back the original SFX for the CARV and other TR LMGs, all these years later and I still abhor the fuzzy static noises that pass for gunshots from them, and it makes me a sad Terran.

[@dojando6003]

I like the change to the knife. I just destroyed a whole squad that was trying to cap a base single handedly. I just sneaked in and murdered everyone except one. The last person finally got me then xD But me, as a single infiltrator vs. ~10 people and I almost won... wayyy to OP. Although fun when just running threw a horde of enemies, while they either don't realize you are an enemy or killing each other while trying to kill you xD

[@johnvanek9514]

This just looks like Vanu getting nerfed at every turn :(

[@jamesconnor5923]

Good

[@johnvanek9514]

@@jamesconnor5923 you joke, but even though some tr weapons may have needed buffs, they still already have some of the best weapons in the game. Making the most zerg heavy faction (on Connery at least) pushed like this is going to ruin the game even more for both NC and Vanu

[@Direblade11]

@@jamesconnor5923 VS consistently has the least pop. Outgunned and outmatched.

[@davenarisotto3674]

TR best faction strength in unity

[@CrazyHank]

All were missing is impulse c4 or rocklet ammo. Without much thought I can cross the frozen river at Bridge-ward with a light assault under 10 seconds using impulse nades. I chased down a vanguard with rockelts and impulse nades. This is the future.

[@Valhain]

Personally, I think that the removal of the OHK on the power knives just make them a fancy regular knife. Does it need a nerf? Maybe, but the amount I get killed by them is minimal compared to the rest of the weapons I die to. Ah well... such is life. As a side note, turning the GSAW into a poor mans sniper reminds me of how the .50 cal came to being.

[@larzanthony2275]

Surprised that laser sights still have no downside. At least make it only work when it’s on ffs.

[@tprtiger]

It’s downside is opportunity cost. You can’t run something like forward grip, which is great for reeling in horizontal recoil

[@JohnSmith-dd1bl]

can someone please tell me how a shorter barrel increases control? this is the Combat Upgrade that kills the game smh

[@sgtdoner6653]

Oh boy am i a heavy TR heavy. *Calming Daka intensifies*

[@VagineerHuur]

Flechette ammo looks interesting

[@Semmarv]

The Tarkov legmeta comes to planetside... Interesting

[@Im_black_now_spiderman]

I didn't know people still play this game, I remember playing it alot

[@Direblade11]

It remains an amazing game overall

[@ValhynArcturus]

Bloody hell, DBG just suplexing the current meta by introducing a slew of new attachments and a bunch of balance changes... I took a look at the PTS patch notes and saw my beloved Archer was in the list for weapons due to a tune up... Given what the Jackal w/ BX Adapter can do to a MAX, MY DAMN ARCHER BETTER BE GETTING SOME SERIOUS LOVING! Gotta say though, Gauss SAW with the Angle Grip is hitting a vibe I was not expecting, can't wait to see what happens with the Vanu Directive weapons as the Heat mechanic definitely seems "Overtuned" but in a bad way