I've found the different attachments fit different factions in different ways. VS tends to have insanely low vertical recoil with rather high horizontal recoil-this makes the angled grip useless, but also allows short barrel to be used far more often, with regular grips and laser being common too.TR seems to be a 'middle child' sporting both vertical and horizontal recoils, so they tend to prefer grips and heavy barrels to counter their high fire rates, but also 'can' run compensators, short barrels or laser. NC tends to have the most vertical recoil and the least horizontal, making angled foregrip and compensators more common, but their horrible hipfire makes short barrel pretty useless.
@Bankrotas2 жыл бұрын
Comp vs Heavy Barrel - I'd argue both are about same value though. While it's not hard to counteract constant vertical recoil, it is harder to counteract first shot recoil (FSR) and if you've trained yourself to maintain bloom, you run into FSR often enough that compensator helps with bullet grouping.
@grazzer882 жыл бұрын
Definitely noticed this on NC weapons. I think partly it's down to muscle memory, i could probably adjust to a heavy barrel, but as you say, it's about the same value in "quality of life" improvement to weapon handling, so why bother with the effort of adjusting to a side-grade.
@Alpha-cp4bm2 жыл бұрын
I think that the gun that gets the most out of the angled forward grip would be the ns11 ar since it has a 3x fsm and is already a laser.
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
Have yet to try that combo, will give it a look soon when the servers behave.
@melonman16932 жыл бұрын
In my case it was the saber, as a 2 round burst + compositor is ridicules
@silverthorngoodtree55332 жыл бұрын
The NSO 3x burst AR that auto bursts. Turns it into an auto laser pointer. Other than that, Gauss saw benifits soooo much. Meas your first seconed and third shot should be on target.
@violenceandpoetry2 жыл бұрын
The Reaper DMR is my favorite weapon in the NC arsenal second only to the godsaw, and I give it both forward grip and compensator. Recently been playing around with sabot rounds and while I love using it in choke points, the reduced firing rate has probably cost me a few 1v1s.
@bighouse5812 жыл бұрын
I love having the under barrel shotgun
@justagentlemanthatenjoysco79052 жыл бұрын
Trac Shot being able to equip both grip and comp makes it a funny laser gun
@g.v87422 жыл бұрын
The GD-7F really appreciates the combination of both the foregrip and the short barrel makes gun worth using again for me
@KrimsonStorm2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content man! I remember watching your stuff 6 years ago when I was massively into PS2. Picked it up last again weekend and having a blast, glad to see one of my favorite PS2 content creators is still making quality content. Cheers from across the pond!
@giggymiggins24562 жыл бұрын
SABR-13 w/comp and angled grip is how I always dreamed it would be
@flaneur24762 жыл бұрын
The em6 gets a decent buff from the angled forward grip. I’ve always had trouble with accuracy in wide open fields with NC lmgs (excluding 50 mags) the angled grip yanks that recoil back down after a burst and keeps me on the same general fire lane over vast distances
@Pygex2 жыл бұрын
Try combining Gauss SAW S with compensator, angled grip, HVA and a 3.4x or 4x optic. It becomes quite a scary supportive head hunter. Which actually brings one point into my mind. Compensator and Angled grip are those that yes tend to do benefit newer players, but don't just shelve them after your skills grow over them. Maginification increases the distance your screen travels and makes vertical recoil worse. With improved skills and still running those, you can increase your effective engagement ranges greatly as you are able to use greater magnification if you want to. This is especially an option for guns that support HVA.
@Lightningslice2 жыл бұрын
ohh that deci at 0:35, i swear every dumbfired rocket gives ESFs a haircut
@MurseSamson Жыл бұрын
I tap fire with a NC Tross & Angled grip, with a x6 scope and turn an Assault rifle into a Scout Rifle with a large magazine, and smoke targets at very large ranges when assaulting a base to make sure we can capture the outdoors. 👍 Works pretty well I'm sure that there are even better weapons for it, but as a new player it is my first weapon & loadout that leads to very consistent Survival and 10+ kill bonuses.
@elliottgaal97742 жыл бұрын
This was quite the informative vid I was wondering when you would make one of these videos. I enjoy the laser and short barrel for rapid fire weapons. It helps a lot when playing support roles.
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it mate, cheers.
@elliottgaal97742 жыл бұрын
@@CAMIKAZE78 Thanks for all the info. I hope you keep giving us content for PS2
@superbrain38482 жыл бұрын
i like the Attachments, ive been running the AF-6 more than i should, but its a really fun and quite strong weapon, even for someone with the Aim of a Potato. Also clearly the all time NC classic with the Gauss Saw.
@InputEmitter2 жыл бұрын
My dude, thank you for this information. All around I am not proficient at shooters, but felt I was performing lower than I should because of my lack of testing different combinations of weapons and attachments. This has given me a lot to digest, and I am happily going to change a few things I have been doing in order to help my team. Again, Thank You. 💯
@kilercrab32132 жыл бұрын
Swapping the compensator for a heavy barrel on my H1C cougar had made it really nice not gonna lie, but Ive never used the angled forward grip though
@deslow74112 жыл бұрын
You kidding me? I've got 1600 hours on this game and didn't know that the laser doesn't have to be on.. I've been shutting it off near doors and corners so it doesn't give away my position :D
@efraim33642 жыл бұрын
it turns your darklight off also
@deslow74112 жыл бұрын
@@efraim3364 what?
@efraim33642 жыл бұрын
@@deslow7411 the light a lot of ppl use to highlight cloaked infils, most put it on sidearms
@deslow74112 жыл бұрын
@@efraim3364 Yes, but the dark light has to be on for it to work. What Cami just told us is that you don't need to have the laser on and it still works. I mean you get the 30% benefit even if it's not on.
@efraim33642 жыл бұрын
@@deslow7411 yeah
@BlackRodger2 жыл бұрын
Found MSW-R with angled grip a very nice option, gun has huge first shot multiplier kick, toning that down makes it easier to contoll in mid range since I burst that gun a lot. On opposite side I found Lynx with short barrel and forward grip to be my new favorite carabine, short barrel replaces laser sight to some extend and forward grip makes Lynx absolute laser beam, add very small bloom of 0.45 per shot and you can hold down trigger longer than any other carabine dishing damage at ranges that compete with assault rifles while still retaining hipfire potential.
@nofilterneito2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been running MSW-R with Heavy Barrel/Comp Foward Grip. It’s a damn laser at range after first shot
@bookw3rm62 жыл бұрын
Going to be honest NCs Disruptor and Sabot ammo and VS's unstable and Lashing ammo need to be on as many guns as TR's KCAP ammo is. I know most of the time they are a niche use but lashing ammo on the Corvus and Lacerta are so much fun, and having sabot ammo on something like the promise would actually make it useful. To me it should be a question of which guns do not have these unique ammo types, and not which ones do
@kbwarriors2 жыл бұрын
Promise is useful... Kcap is useless
@Jbn0s0rus2 жыл бұрын
The thing that have been grinded my gears since day one of me playing Ps2, is that there is (almost) no upside of running a stock weapon. The attachments aren't exactly trades, most of the time, they're just massive buffs. Compared to BF3 that I have been playing quite a bit, a lot of weapons did just fine without any attachments, and some really didn't need any to be at 95% of their peak capacity. Ps2 doesn't really have that.
@VagineerHuur2 жыл бұрын
PS2 is free to play, which means it introduces more grinding for free players. In this case, attachments are implemented more as a progression system, giving players more reason to grind for certs while premium users with membership get less grinding by passively getting more certs.
@jonny_gage2 жыл бұрын
I love this game and it's extremely underrated!
@Littlepetfrog2 жыл бұрын
The ACX-11 on the NC as a 200 damage model weapon with a Lazer sight and a short barrel is just absurdly good. I'm 90% sure that's what I'm running. 😍
@vladcrow42252 жыл бұрын
Personally, I still prefer suppressor - comes really handy, when you go for some infil hunting, or just flanking too deep.
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to give that a run for it’s money soon!
@teemup92472 жыл бұрын
I restarted playing sfter like 5(or more) years. I can't believe still no other game can achieve what PS2 does. And certs seem to be much easier to gain now? And damn this game has sustained time incredibly well.
@kompatybilijny9348 Жыл бұрын
Angled forward grip is nice on Bull/Rhino with a high scope, as they tend to kick your aim off with that first shot multiplier.
@FluxAnimations2 жыл бұрын
glad your still doing ps2 videos❤take a break whenever you want,we all appreciate all your hardwork👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤❤❤much love
@TheOblomoff2 жыл бұрын
I want to have a different sight on rocket launcher. Default one covers the drop mostly.
@KTheStruggler2 жыл бұрын
Another notw for the angled grip, is that it is in fact the sexiest rail attachment. I put it on most weapons purely for fashion purposes
@LiquidToast422 жыл бұрын
angled grip + comp on a Reaper DMR absolutely clicks heads
@kbwarriors2 жыл бұрын
Been liking the new comp, heavy barrel is kinda useful when defending, but the reduced movement speed kills in sweaty HA fights so I barely use it
@ChopSueyyy2 жыл бұрын
Compensator + Laser sight is just the best combo on any gun with not too much horizontal recoil for me. The hipfire drawback gets more than cancelled out and the recoil reduction is so strong that it honestly almost feels too much on some weapons. It basically makes the angled grip obsolete. The only time i would choose another attachment is the forward grip with guns like the Anchor/MSW-R etc. because it does reduce the recoil angle and reduces the randomness. You can test that by shooting a whole mag and see where your crosshair ends up with and without the foregrip.
@TotallyNotAFox2 жыл бұрын
An attachment that counters all those wanna-be predators on a constant level would be cool, since it's impossible to walk anywhere without stumbling over some cloaker every 5 meters during prime time.
@sashamakeev75472 жыл бұрын
Well if TORQ-9 both patterns have same amount of shots then attachment clearly does not descrease vertical recoil by 30%. It doesnt matter if recoil is high or low. There should be 30% less rise in any case. Basically whole spray pattern with comp should be 30% smaller in vertical component then the one without comp. As we can see here 30% less vertical recoil is not there. Sooo...
@starmanindisguise58442 жыл бұрын
TORQ-9 is one of the most underrated ARs in the game. With Comp + Forward Grip & Impact Ammo, it is a better watchman in practically every way with zero damage drop off.
@LiquidToast422 жыл бұрын
@@starmanindisguise5844 torq looks very enticing now, how does it fair with a heavy barrel?
@starmanindisguise58442 жыл бұрын
@@LiquidToast42 I personally go with Compensator when I use it so the accuracy can be further perfected. But with only 34 rounds (via Impact Ammo), it might not offer much of a benefit.
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
Both patterns were not the same quantity of shots I believe. The TORQ-9 has a tiny vertical kick per shot, ergo the small impact per shot makes for a smaller visual impact (keep in mind the bloom over the burst) also makes an impact on perceived recoil.
@TheHuffur2 жыл бұрын
Vanu players should strongly consider the Angled Grip since VS is not allowed to have any benefits without the devs immediately slapping on a drawback to counter said benefit. VS weapons are supposed to be accurate and usually they are, but they are also usually punished for that accuracy with a higher First Shot Multiplier than the other faction equivalents which makes the seemingly low recoil of the gun kick harder than the SAW with its 2nd shot. Cutting that drawback down by 60% can make a BIG difference for the first 2-5 shots accuracy since its hard to counter the FSM with normal recoil handling as it literally goes: first shot accurate -> second shot kicks hard -> 3rd shot and onward use the normal recoil so the FSM is a big component of almost all VS weapons accuracy in terms of where your initial burst will hit.
@Void-Neuromancer2 жыл бұрын
i like short barrel+ angled grip.......Lynx,Cycler etc
@abukanoff2 жыл бұрын
TAR with angled grip is surprisingly good with ranges like 20-30m. I just hate the random fsm kick on it so much.
@ANTOperator2 жыл бұрын
Reject heavy barrel, embrace Naginata.
@ashyone2 жыл бұрын
i honestly think the craziest part of this vid was watching you not have an ns secondary
@Draco512 жыл бұрын
would you do a review on the frogman and sealion....they seem fairly assault rifle like and im thinking a light assault + either of them would be really scary
@joewozniak7112 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much !
@SuaBitSiyeonsLip2 жыл бұрын
This is probably a dumb request and don't know if you will see this but I don't fully understand the numbers on the weapons that talk about hipfire, crouch accuracy and all those other things. They are just numbers to me and I just have no reference. Is there anyway you could make a guide or video explaining that stuff? Perhaps you have but I have missed it. It is the most user unfriendly aspect of weapon statistics and I think it would be a great guide for new players. I appreciate you going over actual numbers in this video and I think an expanded video would be great.
@TurtleFootMining Жыл бұрын
@3:15 Id love to see a three tap comparison as I never fully unload when shooting unless I’m hip firing
@xVertigo1012 жыл бұрын
I only run laser and short barrel on all guns if possible. Recoil is incredibly easy to manage on ps4
@Senzorei2 жыл бұрын
I actually found that leaning into horizontal recoil on some weapons with heavy bias actually worked better sometimes. Hear me out. Usually for a weapon with a heavy angle like the Anchor or MSW-R, you'd build vert grip + barrel of choice, that way you minimize the downside of the horizontal recoil, right? But you still have to control a little bit in conjunction with the vertical. Now, if you throw an AFG and a comp on there, the recoil becomes predominantly angular, with maybe a little less vertical, so that the recoil pattern makes about a 30-35 deg angle from the origin point (you still kind of have the mixed recoil problem from before, but it feels a bit more evenly matched personally). I found the latter setup to sometimes be a little easier to control (although I still think the former is probably a bit more consistent so I run that instead). It sounds nonsensical, but give it a try in VR and decide if you'd like to try it on live. If nothing else, it's just another fun build like 6x HVA Gauss SAW
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
That’s not exactly how the AFG works however, adding the AFG expands the intensity of recoil shake and the variation of how far that recoil can expand from the center point of your burst. It doesn’t create an angle necessarily, just creates inconsistencies. Just figured I’d clear that up.
@Senzorei2 жыл бұрын
@@CAMIKAZE78 Yeah, I suppose it's more the compensator more than anything else. Thanks for the clarification!
@Lerndmina2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched it yet but this should be really helpful.
@SalandFindles2 жыл бұрын
All I know is that the Butcher feels godlike now with the Heavy Barrel and I think the Angled Forward Grip if my memory is correct with what I've been running on it.
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t run the angled forward grip on a butcher, the horizontal recoil is honestly far too crazy to support it properly.
@SalandFindles2 жыл бұрын
@@CAMIKAZE78 I don't really remember what I'm running on it. I'd have to log on my TR character to see. I haven't logged on it for 1 week now and haven't played heavy as my main class when I've played it recently. I DO know I'm using the heavy barrel, though.
@CherryNobel2 жыл бұрын
Ngl since the update, I’ve still not got around to actually testing all the guns, and goodies. To busy trying to aruax my darkstar for the 4th time…. Please send help..
@tranvinhnhat12892 жыл бұрын
I definitely use Razor GD 23 with Heavy Barrel and Forward Grip
@thedispenser83012 жыл бұрын
13:04 Noel Deyzel: Allow me to explain
@Aabergm2 жыл бұрын
I like the dark light because even though it is 90% useless. Most infils seem to run and hide which I like because I hate fighting SMG infils almost as much as banshee.
@AhsokaTanoTheWhite2 жыл бұрын
Banshee needs to be removed from the game, I've been saying it for years, ESF's should not have ground pound potential, that is LIberator's job. ESF should be for dogfights and shooting down liberators
@DzinkyDzink2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on getting featured on the launcher.
@Shetyre2 жыл бұрын
you know what the greatest attachment in Planetside is? a better GPU / CPU
@tooterfishTV2 жыл бұрын
Invaluable advice, thanks!
@rageixi14222 жыл бұрын
I dont worry about attachments tbh. Just use the blackjack and you are good to go! haha
@knotwrite2 жыл бұрын
12:48 dead before the infil was even fully uncloaked on your screen. ya hate to see it.
@F3ND1MUS2 жыл бұрын
8:21 newb here, HOW do you turn off lazer sight on the side of the gun ty
@avlaenamnell69942 жыл бұрын
heavy barrel on the promise is amazing for nc
@SilhouetteLifter2 жыл бұрын
as a VS, really struggling to find any reason to use the angled foregrip on any weapon. Like you said, horizontal recoil is the most important thing. 2000+ hrs in this game and 1700 hrs in Warzone have taught me that. One foregrip attachment reduces it, the other increases it. the conversation starts and ends there.
@OlySandvich2 жыл бұрын
Try it out on the Pulsar-C, it's yummy
@SilhouetteLifter2 жыл бұрын
@@OlySandvich I have 2,700 kills with the Pulsar C, might be my favorite gun in the game. I ain't fixing what ain't broke lol
@totalunconcern2 жыл бұрын
I tried it on Terminus and it becomes an absolute long range laser if you can burst!
@RoyalCdn2 жыл бұрын
Talking about the compensator and AFG for burst fire. Does that help the Sabr13 or would the heavy barrel and foregrip be more beneficial?
@Volk17392 жыл бұрын
Reaper DMR with short barrel. Sounds ridiculous, works just fine Not sure what to combine it with though
@C-Vite2 жыл бұрын
yo thank god, I thought he was never gonna make another Ps2 video until the next update (5 years, totally no road map)
@Allesmann22 жыл бұрын
good stuff, ty :)
@shinnamonbun79512 жыл бұрын
How did you make your game look like that? The FOV looks insanely high
@littletweeter13272 жыл бұрын
if you're running angled grip on anything other than saw, youre doing it wrong and youd be better off with normal grip on all other guns.
@dantearista4512 жыл бұрын
I use the laser ligth and compensator 😂 50/50
@efraim33642 жыл бұрын
i use sidewinder implant to counter the Heavy Barrel penalties
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea at all!
@Andrew-up7sf2 жыл бұрын
I still don't know if I should run high velocity ammo over soft point ammo on the mercenary and bandit
@ibraheemahmad74042 жыл бұрын
What attachments do you recommend for the T9 carv and MSW R?
@adi96adi2 жыл бұрын
8:20 I have a shitty computer and play on low graphics - never knew that you can actually see other people's lasers til now 😹
@battyflaps54102 жыл бұрын
weird seeing TR getting kills.. usually they are the killed and i main tr too lol. Feels like our guns do nothing.. I got really peed off once and went over to VS for a few hours on a different character and i was getting kills.. I dunno how that works.. Like tr your just like, hit marker, hit marker, hit marker, hit marker.. soon point im gonna run out of ammo and he kills you.. like i dunno its been forever since i played but ii was using the standard gun moved over to the one with the side ways ammo clip hanging out felt a bit better or at least changed the luck slightly.. i just run a forward grip and a 1x or 2x depending what im feeling.. Just pull down a bit nothing to it lol
@nebvbn45042 жыл бұрын
At 11:57, how do you climb over that wall?
@weaslepopper2 жыл бұрын
Is there anyone making detailed vids like this for the console version of this game? I'd like to know why Esamir is always locked. I'd trade that for Hossin in a heartbeat.
@badaimkroni82662 жыл бұрын
You need to turn on brighter settings.... this gameplay is not fun to watch since you litterly cant see shit even on max brightness on my phone
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
I’ll take that on board mate, thanks for the feedback.
@badaimkroni82662 жыл бұрын
@@CAMIKAZE78 thank you. I love to watch your videos but its hard to catch whats goin on
@silverthorngoodtree55332 жыл бұрын
YAY bout time :P
@THECAKEISTALKING2 жыл бұрын
is your fov higher than usual?
@argus30912 жыл бұрын
OMG is Connery finally working again!?
@tonillabresguardiola54542 жыл бұрын
What is the weapon of the first minute?
@jkp27302 жыл бұрын
Yo what was the gun in the thumbnail
@nokta73732 жыл бұрын
It's all nice and tidy until you play NSO and are forced to equip extended mag or run around with your tiny amount of bullets lol
@LtBob382 жыл бұрын
Without Horizontal recoil how would I hit anybody?
@hawe63812 жыл бұрын
Heavy Barrel is too risky when you peek and fire
@hungryhedgehog4201 Жыл бұрын
anything to help reduce the horrible weapon bloom
@christaphernguyen79102 жыл бұрын
The recoil comparisons have a discrepancy in number of shots fired. Kind of misleading as I find counting the shots tell a different story then what is being presented.
@alpha-do7xf2 жыл бұрын
godsaw has access to all new(and old) attachments including angled grip and compensator, which turns it into 200dmg laser beam but TR butcher cant have a single forward grip (like carv). DISGUSTING!
@Nommicus2 жыл бұрын
I've been hoseing using a laser sight a lot since 2012, then recently added short barrel, I blame the serpent originally lol. Will get the heavy though and try some new shit out, since playing Hell Let Loose my aim, player score and Kd got better it seems... 🤣👍
@melvinhucherot13162 жыл бұрын
what is your weapon at 0:57 pleaaaase
@johnstevens722 жыл бұрын
NS-15 “Endeavor”
@ItsDopeScope2 жыл бұрын
I like PS2 I still play from time to time. Even with attachments the guns and bullet hit detection has never felt right compared to any other shooter I’ve play. And it’s not that I don’t how to burst or single fire or have bad aim it’s just the way the game is built. I’m a 4.7 KD and have been playing since launch and would love to see all automatic weapons be able to fires at full speeds and be accurate :(
@jaunius14942 жыл бұрын
Early 360p gang!
@Cifer772 жыл бұрын
Holy fish bowl, watching this gives me a headache.
@royston01252 жыл бұрын
any one got good TR builds?
@addmen962 жыл бұрын
360p? Alright
@LouSaydus2 жыл бұрын
COF bloom is just a bad game mechanic and should only apply to specific weapons. No matter how good your aim is, your cof will always screw you.
@CAMIKAZE782 жыл бұрын
Disagree. Aim is still just as important, you just have to burst accordingly to be rewarded.
@TotallyNotAFox2 жыл бұрын
@@CAMIKAZE78 The problem (especially for TR guns) is that there are two random aspects to the recoil - CoF and horizontal recoil. It's often even more effective to just use the single fire mode on some wepons
@lizalewis70552 жыл бұрын
hi
@lichtanethual70252 жыл бұрын
Game too easy now.
@Quixidion2 жыл бұрын
New player to Planetside! Still having trouble with the UserOptions.ini. I put higher FOV for example and no changes to FOV occur! 😅😅😅 Love the content though. Ever since I started watching some vids about Planetside, I've been watching you mostly! 😎👌
@TotallyNotAFox2 жыл бұрын
Right click the file and set it as "read only" - otherwise the game will override your settings
@Quixidion2 жыл бұрын
@@TotallyNotAFox , yea, I've done that, it overrides it still. Like the FOV seems to be hard coded to stay in the margin of what the game had intended, because I have no changes, when setting as read only and putting it on 100 or something just to see a difference.