Testing the NORMA golden trophy Ft heavy air rifle pellets .177

[@RaoulDuke333]

Love these pellet reviews, hopefully you will have done one for every pellet eventually. Saw a guy pushing deformed pellets through a pellet sizer the other day, not only did it repair damaged skirts but he recons it also improved accuracy

[@tillysgunstocks]

I'm getting through the majority of different pellets slowly mate. It's great fun trying them out for sure.. Re the sizers yes some barrels will perform marginally better with a sized pellet, but the most important thing is that the best barrel in the world won't shoot inconsistently manufactured pellets 😉

[@creepylonghair]

I had a tin. Flashing was attrocious washed and cleaned a few but after 45 yards forget it. I wouldnt use them because of the flashing maybe ending up in the barrel if you miss any during washing.

[@tonyhoodlass1846]

Defo need to try these usually use RWS Superdome or super field and H n N FTT also Bisley practice in my HW75 Thanks for this

[@peterbaugh51]

Could you review the Norma 8.4 gr with an FAC gun sometime? RWS is good in my Beeman 18.4 fpe break barrel to 45 yards. I need good pellets for pest control, no contests. The Norma are doing well so far at 17 yards with Ruger Explorer, for small pests. Will test the Beeman and update later. Thanks for the video!

[@peterbaugh51]

Thanks for the info. Norma look just like 8.3 gr Superdomes but without the pleated skirt. My gun loves RWS also.

[@tillysgunstocks]

I'm jumping through the hoops to get some high power stuff onto the channel mate It's a bit of a pain with my job but I'll work out the best way to do it soon 😉

[@peterbaugh51]

@@tillysgunstocks Thank you sir, no rush. My target - field needs bush wacked, so will test Norma GTFT 8.4 when possible. 17 yard test is not useful information for my Beeman, it shoots 0.3" groups at 33 yards, 1,000 fps, Superdomes. Same hole at 17 yards so you get my drift 😄 Good videos thanks much! (Beeman 10616 break barrel, $129 USD, go figure).

[@mus1970]

Bought a tin myself last year and they don't come close to JSB and AA at 50 meters from several rifles. As you've seen, the head sizes are quite inconsistent. They look really nice and shiny and I think the alloy is harder than usual so they shouldn't deform so much if you need to carry them about. Still, I'll stay with JSB.

[@johnross9810]

That’s really interesting, I would like to know the twist rates of the two barrels? I wonder if the first barrel has a faster twist rate and the pellets are not deviating due to gyroscopic forces.

[@jefftaylor4707]

Another good honest review cheers,if it had BSA on the tin another well known channel would probably say they're the bollocks!..instead of they actually are bollocks.Well done😉

[@tillysgunstocks]

Lol Jeff! I just want to put out the information I wish I had known,when I was starting out into competition shooting many years ago. I'll be honest though,I was hoping these would be better. I do use the superfield alot for the mid and short range stuff.

[@jefftaylor4707]

@@tillysgunstocks diablo field for me mate,keep being impartial buddy,you can roll a turd in glitter but its still a turd at the end of it all.😉

[@TheWardy72]

Great test, disappointed they didn't perform for you given my experience, but guns are fickle creatures!

[@tillysgunstocks]

I was hoping for better really. I bet there's some barrels that will do really well with them,sadly not mine..

[@davidjones2028]

I used to shoot HN FTT's then switched to JSB Heavies 10.34gr because the grouping was more consistent through my S510. But when I bought my FX Impact both FTT's and JSB's grouped awful. I eventually tried QYS Streamlined 9.56gr on a recommendation and they group pretty much on top of each other at my 30 yard zero. Just goes to show how much variation there can be between brands and barrels. Thank you for videos very informative.

[@le3045acp]

in the US the norma pellets are sold in box stores and most of our box store pellets are not JSB or H&N and are usually considered junk pellets only worthy of plinking cans

[@Woodgate425]

Thanks for doing these tests, very interesting.

[@neilmackinnon3371]

More excellent testing. Of course after weighing there is washing, sizing and also possibly lubricating and after all that, you want to be certain that you are buying from the same batch. Who knew that accuracy cost so much? Oh yeah, all FT / HFT and BR shooters.

[@tillysgunstocks]

It's mental eh mate. Thing with these is I haven't yet worked out how to buy them in batches/dies yet. So it'll always be a lottery. I will come back to these when I get my new fancy ft rig, and give them a gauging and thorough sorting. Then xti barrels are mega 😆 wonder if that'll run these nicely..

[@neilmackinnon3371]

@@tillysgunstocks My 9015 was nuts for the original H&N Sniper Mediums. I had some early pre production batches and then a couple of sleeves from the first two production runs. After that any batch I got it HATED... same rifle, same barrel. I still have some of the originals put to one side.... as ya do.

[@Englishelectrictype4]

Good testing, unfortunately rws since they changed thier pellets I have found them to be absolutely awful in a range of rifles and barrels in sub 12 and these Norma look like more of the same. Have you tried the olympia 7.87 grains, for less than a tenner a tin and amazing results. Much better than rws that fall out of barrels due to poor sizing.

[@drleighmj]

Really interesting. These came highly recommended on another channel for an S510, which is the gun I use. The increased weight from the JSB Exact 8.44 I am currently caught my attention for making those 45yd head shots more reliable. You review sealed it and I will stick with JSB; and avoid the horrible afternoon you referred to. Thanks.

[@tillysgunstocks]

I still can't get over missing that flashing on the skirt,despite weighing and inspecting them.. Not all barrels like them but the h&n baracuda ft are very consistent they really need no prep or sorting unless you want to be a world champ at br. Definitely worth a try in both head sizes for longer range pest control😉

[@drleighmj]

Thanks for the tip, I'll give them a go. @@tillysgunstocks

[@airgunner0335]

Thank you for your time I wonder if they would work in a break barrel

[@tillysgunstocks]

Definitely worth a try And also worth giving them a bit of a sorting as there's some variation in size through the tins I've tried.

[@johnhorsfield4361]

Does the tin have any information regarding head size? JSB tins can be chosen from a head size ranging from 4.49 to 4.53 according to stocks I've looked through. The experience you've had with some pellets being tight and some being loose might be because Norma have more than one die running and a tray underneath catching more than one head size, and no sorting. This is far from ideal and not something I would want to buy.

[@tillysgunstocks]

Hi john, no info regarding head size,other than the top the tin saying 4.5mm. There is what appears to be a batch code on the underside,but I've yet to see anyone selling these by batch code,like the jsb, AA etc. I might email them and ask if it is a batch code.would be good to know..

[@johnhorsfield4361]

@@tillysgunstocks I wrote to RWS once many years ago for more information regarding head sizes, but I never got a reply, I hope you have better luck, if you do let us all know!

[@imdaprophet]

I binned my Norma’s. They looked good. Didn’t cycle well in my mag.

[@heathhalfhill6401]

I have often thought about the precision of metering the regulator does and less about the weight of ammo per round difference. It would be hard to tell what a regulator puts out shot to shot other than everything being exactly the same all around with the ammo. Size, weight, diameter, and softness round to round being the same would help get an idea what the regulator is doing but not in exact psi per shot. + or minus a few pounds may make the difference more so than weight in my mind. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated please.

[@elandarmawan7713]

Terima kasih infonyA.alternatif pengganti qys

[@philipbooth9755]

I’ve tried both .177 and .22 and I get covered in lead flakes as the magazines do - would washing them improve the situation with the flyers?

[@markhomer5704]

Tried a tin a few weeks back , they had some at the range for under a tenner ... they have there place , and after using them in three rifles , that place is the spinners and knock down / reset targets ... so money not wasted ... as for serious target work , well , not very good ...

[@jamie152]

Ive just done a large sample run through my gun, found h&n best comparable to exacts

[@tillysgunstocks]

In the future I plan to do some testing with the h&n. I'd by chance your barrel either a bsa or cz? They tend to run the h&n very well.

[@jamie152]

@@tillysgunstocks bsa... haha its as if the lad knows his stuff

[@tillysgunstocks]

@@jamie152 mate I competed all over the uk nationals and Europe with mad custom bsa hft rigs years ago.. nowdays I do a bit of my own stock building and testing/design work for a load of the manufacturers 😉

[@jamie152]

@@tillysgunstocks your my go too guy for honest reviews, loving the pellet series atm

[@gallantone1535]

Really good information good honest information thanks for the time you put wish a lot of other video channel could give the bad points as well as the good points 👍

[@tillysgunstocks]

Thanks mate. I want the channel to be no bs, the kind of info I wish I had known when I was starting out into competition shooting. 😉

[@rapalaron6348]

Thanks for this great test👍I'll stay with my JSB pellets. All of my HW's like the exact's, jumbo's and king's. Even my FWB 300S, Diana 75 and Walther LGV Spezial like the JSB sport target pellet. I,m disappointed that Norma put it's name on these pellets. I use Norma for my .22lr, .222 rem, and 308 win. and it is great ammo with very good precision and superb controlled deformation for the hunting ammo.

[@beanaddict]

Great review,,,,saves us buying these.

[@davegrimshaw7318]

Alleyway at 25yd and 45yd open field..?

[@tillysgunstocks]

Yes mate, usual spots.25yds fairly sheltered. 45yd open ground but always a nice swirly wind to keep me on my toes.

[@davegrimshaw7318]

Couldn't you try both distances in the field to show more consistency in the group's, 25yrd's was a good group, but 45yrd was bad,wind variation would have opened up the 25yd group as well. Good work though 👍 Glad to see working in the industry hasn't spoiled your enjoyment of shooting 👍

[@tillysgunstocks]

Since I started the channel its really re Ignited my passion for it all. Funny you should say about 25yds un sheltered, I'll shortly be building some fresh target boxes so I can take the targets out into completely open ground and collect the pellets.

[@roberthowe2910]

They basically a rws superfield..rebrended..

[@RuffsTV]

Are these just RWS Superfield rebranded?

[@tillysgunstocks]

Very similar indeed 😉

[@brynybach7741]

Another excellent thorough, honest and well executed pellet test. I can tell you're not influenced in any way which gives you credibility so many others lack. Can I ask what scales you are useing to weigh the pellets on please as I've finally decided this could be quite beneficial after seeing your analysis and results. Keep up the excellent work, I'm really enjoying your channel 😁👍

[@tillysgunstocks]

I cant honestly remember what brand the scales are.ive had them years, but they were a brand we tested back on the old bsaog as being pretty consistent. I'm not influenced by anyone mate. I run my own company making my own stuff and don't need anything from anyone else. Obviously if I'm doing a video on my own products I'll tell you they are good,because they are 😉 But even then it'll completely transparent. Then you are free to make up your own mind if the thing suits you

[@notmodeling8070]

Why you wearing a glove to hold the but ?

[@tillysgunstocks]

It cuts down the pulse from my hand being imparted into the rifle 😉

[@sahhull]

I ultra sonic clean before the scales get used.

[@dougdiver8637]

If you going to the trouble of weighing them,,the logical next step is sizing ,,,get yourself a PELLETGAGE and find out what your barrel likes?? Just sayin

[@xWILZTAx]

Looked promising at 25yrds, absolutely shite at 45yrds 😂

[@tillysgunstocks]

Lol!! I'll come back to these once I've mustered up the enthusiasm to give them a proper sorting and gauging. There's definitely some in the tin that go exactly where they should. Itd be interesting to know just how many in a tin compared to a decent batch of jsb.

[@xWILZTAx]

@@tillysgunstocks recently bought some jsb heavy 10.34, i sized and weighed them. More interestingly they seem to be prelubed from factory. I kid you not they did a 10 shot 10mm group at 50m. Incredible accuracy, and it wasn't just me either, my father and wife also got very similar results have both never held a gun before.

[@notmodeling8070]

They didnt even group at 45

[@tillysgunstocks]

Sadly not. I've since given some a very good sorting and when you are really pedantic picking the best ones they do go well,but the variation through this particular tin is a bit disappointing