Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2022) - STOP MAKING THESE MOVIES.

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[@ahcnp2]

The only thing I knew going in was "Try anything and you're cancelled, bro" which was like... the most written by a cop line I'd ever heard. Glad to hear the movie doesn't even have the courage to stick to an actual ideology.

[@camelliascholl6564]

that's an interesting reading my initial thought when i saw that line was that they were pointing out how ridiculous the idea of being "cancelled," as an actual threat is as in, "if someone threatens to cancel you, that's a useless threat because you can just go ahead and do it anyway" now that i think about it, your reading's probably more of what the writers/director were going for

[@Jane-oz7pp]

@@camelliascholl6564 The movie was sitting perfectly in Poe's Realm, that zone where it is both satire, and not satire. It is so corny that it can only be a satire of social justice... buuutt... is it? And the answer is yes. This movie is very anti-social justice. The movie that feels like it's satirising social justice and progressive causes like Land Back and Black Nationalism also explicitly makes it the POCs faults that the white man goes on a killing spree, because in their self-righteous indignation that a white southern woman dared stay in her house, they caused the death of his mother. Every POC is played off as stupid and naive, and completely at the mercy of needing the white country boy to protect them for most of the movie... Any reading of this movie is just bad.

[@satqur]

@@Jane-oz7pp Right-wing movies are entirely trash because Conservatives are creatively bankrupt, almost by definition. The only exception, the only Conservatives with an ounce of creative talent, are grognard traditionalists who are weird about the Middle Ages, but at that point you're entering a different ideology than US-style Conservatism.

[@BATCHARRO]

Maybe it should have ended with Leatherface's apology video.

[@spidergumdrop1696]

“Most written by a cop line” cracked me up

[@devinbaggs7542]

I like the part where Mildred just, writes a better scene.

[@stephanieroth4942]

LOL NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THIS WAY

[@reesetorwad8346]

Pretty low bar, but yeah

[@soupalex]

i've been looking forward to this episode of scaredy cats since i watched the film a couple of weeks ago. when one of the out-of-towners told leatherface they were "cancelled", i cringed so hard that all the matter in my body pulled itself into a single, infinitely-dense sphere of secondhand embarrassment.

[@ForlornFea]

This relationship/friendship drama with Bobby is honestly gripping and engaging. I just love how you are developing this.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

It's apparently a far better story than TCM 22.

[@adamplentl5588]

I hate Bobby.

[@TurbopropPuppy]

I love Bobby.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

The Duality of Dook.

[@Bongthroat]

I think it's more like Mildread doesn't think Bobby has legs and is trying to let the fans down gently. Very artfully though, might I add. I am enjoying it.

[@matheusarruda6462]

I've long held the opinion Texas Chainsaw Massacre II is a underrated gem. Dennis Hopper shouting about being the lord of the harvest while having a MGR-esque chainsaw duel with Leatherface is a sight to behold. Also, how is it that after 900 sequels, reboots and reimaginings, no one has brought back the truck driver from movie one? He was the real hero of the whole shebang (and his actor is still alive).

[@morganalabeille5004]

Racism

[@MAMoreno]

His body was supposed to turn up in the prologue of TC3D, but it was cut for time.

[@boscopit]

Part II is my favorite.

[@Paz_Y_Pax]

Part 2 is a hilarious movie full stop.

[@mayfieldgage]

2 is the best one

[@davidbouchard2499]

Man I don't know where Leather face bought his saw but mine stops cutting if I go through like an inche of sand. He can cut through pipes, metal, wood, flesh, bones and his saw will still cut like a lightsaber!

[@1Hawkears1]

He's got a true value chainsaw obviously 😤😤😤

[@davidbouchard2499]

@@1Hawkears1 f*CK my Stihl

[@ysucae]

i never associated the mythos of the chainsaw with lightsabers but it makes so much sense! coming from a northern, backwater af little canadian lumberjack village, i never understood why a normal chainsaw would do the things they made them do in movies and videogames (although i give a pass for those, chainsawing stuff has been awesome since doom and i will never get tired of it) if it was realistic it would probably jam regularly seconds and i reckon it could be actually more interesting. imagine a chainsaw jamming through the clavicle of someone, right above the heart, victim still alive. gnarly, tense, can make for awesome moments. anyway tabarnak

[@davidbouchard2499]

@@ysucae In a realistic french Canadian adaptation you would se Leatherface crank that shit 1588402 times and hear "Sacrement de calisse de tabarnac de cochonneries d'ostie de marde de criss"

[@mattwolfrum7943]

Harbor freight

[@BTendercoaster]

Okay, but movie where she *does* just shoot and kill Leatherface 30 minutes into the movie. And, like... there's no Leatherface Jr., Leatherface doesn't come back from the dead, the monster is dead 30 minutes into the movie and having those very tired twists hanging over the remaining time allows for an exploration of how removing the source of trauma doesn't remove the trauma itself. People would hate it, it'd be great.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

That... sounds so fucking good. Give me more horrors where the fear is a vibe and not actually real.

[@Matrim42]

That’s kinda what I thought about Rob Zombie’s Halloween 2. I actually liked the movie when it was about Laurie, Annie, and Sheriff Brackett trying to put their lives back together in the wake of all that trauma, it was all the Michael Myers stuff that drug it down.

[@mothman314]

another problem with this movie is that they guy supposedly had a gun bc of feral hogs and yet there were not 30-50 feral hogs in the movie

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

How are they going to afford to cast 30-50 police officers in a movie like this?

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

@@electricfishfan Well, at least I'll sleep soundly knowing I've never publicly executed someone for the crime of not being white. 😴😴😴

[@SBelawski]

fyi shotguns can certainly jam. In particular semi automatic shotguns loaded with a shell with low brass (like for bird shot) may lack the energy to cycle the next shell (and unless its something like the SPAS 12 with both pump and semi auto options, it would take more than a moment to clear) Even a pump action, while more reliable than a semi auto in this regard, can certainly have jamming issues. For instance if your "pump" motion isn't committed, the last shell might not eject properly and that can cause an issue. The least likely to have a jam would be a break action shotgun (The kind where you open it and remove and replace each shell individually and is typically found with 2 barrels either side by side or vertical but also not uncommon to be single barrel) But even with that, you can have a "jam" type issue with a bad shell. SO, in conclusion... it definitely would NOT take a gun enthusiast "out of the movie" to see a shotgun malfunction unless it was something like a double barrel shotgun with both barrels malfunctioning. So your re write would TOTALLY work and be a significant improvement.

[@FrankLemonjello]

This person shoots.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Yea wasn't the biggest selling point of the AA-12 that it specifically doesn't jam? At least one of its big selling points, besides the ridiculous firing speed and variety of projectiles.

[@SBelawski]

@@FrankLemonjello Not since I lost all my guns in a tragic boating accident 😔

[@eclipserepeater2466]

Reminds me of the jamming animations in far cry 2. There was one for the break action shotgun where the casings get stuck after firing and the player has to pry them out.

[@SBelawski]

@@eclipserepeater2466 Yeah that's definitely a way a break can jam. I've definitely seen that first and with a friend who didn't keep his break oiled. Lol he kept a cleaning rod on hand to jam all the way up through the barrel instead of just doing a thorough oiling. But in the context of a scene in a film where a trigger pull causes a no reaction, really the only scenario i can really see for a break action would be a bad shell.

[@marvellousm]

This is the most joylessly propped up horror franchise of them all. I keep forgetting they even made LEATHERFACE a few of years ago with Deacon Frost from Blade in it where Leatherface is a teenager.

[@BATCHARRO]

Perhaps the real monster was the law that is slowly allowing the rights of 1980's movies to go back to their original scriptwriters, forcing mercenary producers to have one more go when there clearly isn't any more ones to go to. (Just kidding, my actual opinion is that our overzealous copyright system that keeps most of the 20th century under copyright is the actual for real monster, and that Texas Chainsaw Massacre and everthing from before 1970 could go public domain and it'd be arright. It'd be fine. If you're gonna fight me fight me for that one.)

[@AmunDeus]

Incredible take, I've thought this for a while! Why in the hell should I have to pay to rent a movie on Prime or anything else that's more than 50 years old? Who is still trying to live on nothing but royalties after that long?

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

@@AmunDeus Torrent it

[@reneepogue2188]

Okay but the part in Texas Chainsaw 3D where Leatherface flings his chainsaw at the audience and then globbles off into the woods is cinematic gold.

[@isidroguevara4120]

That scene was funny! I think he should've died in that film though, and let it be the last of the franchise, but studios were like NOOOH! Milk that cow dry!

[@WikiSorcerer]

You could have done _so much_ with the idea of 50 years going by not knowing what became of the Sawyers. You could have had a throwaway line about how Leatherface killed his own family one day because he's a mindless beast in a human form or something.

[@morganalabeille5004]

Tbh considering how they treat him that would be pretty reasonable

[@Jane-oz7pp]

they could have at least aged him and his mother appropriately so the smart phones made sense

[@kinggimpy]

@@morganalabeille5004 I was about to say, they're all pretty shitty to him. I didn't watch past 2 (save for the 2003 remake, which I like, and its sequel), but it seems like no matter what film we're in, his family are total dicks to him. I could see him getting angry and killing them in a child-like rage.

[@sinisternightmare]

I have created this weird filter bubble in my mind, where almost all of this reboot/remake/rehash/sequel stuff is basically blinded out. Continuing a franchise should NOT be a safe bet for the studios to lure a gullible audience into the cinemas. Quite the opposite! Expanding on already existing stories should the HARDEST way to make a successful movie.

[@amagicalduck155]

When this came out I saw loads of people on twitter happy about how intense the gore is when the almost complete lack of blood is one of the most unsettling things about the original

[@shauns2250]

Well that’s the point it’s not the original isit, we’re not in the 1970,s anymore, this 2022 was the best leatherface to date

[@longliverocknroll5]

@@shauns2250 ahahahahahahahahahaha what a trash take. This isn’t even top 3 in a series with only, at BEST, 3 remotely passable movies in total.

[@hanonondricek411]

The effects and cinematography are the two things they got right.

[@xyaeiounn]

hell yes! The original wasn't a splatter movie, even though it gets lumped into that category. It's an awful situation that gets worse and worse. The degenerate, indulgent menace of the fringe-dwelling weirdos sets the scene for ugliness that has hardly any blood at all. I remember seeing a chicken in a birdcage so it couldn't move and a clock hanging from a tree with fencing nails driven through it and thinking "Nah, these people aren't okay".

[@xyaeiounn]

@@shauns2250 People have been trained to not miss atmosphere, which is harder to do than just car-crash noisy gore. That's why the last Halloween was trash. Someone will come along and do a movie full of dread and menace and everyone will act as if they're a genius, when they're just going back to Hooper, Coppolla and Kubrick.

[@SlothhhKinggg]

The writing in this movie makes me feel like it's a sequel that would be made in the 90's. The character with trauma becomes a "badass" which usually means they're military or police, on the surface wokeisms that no leftist would say, the townie is almost always right, and POCs coming to a small town.

[@ZBott]

Long ago I was told about how the original film was a horror film equivalent of saying, "Hey, imagine what it's like to be the animal in a slaughter house! You and your buddies just fucking around then suddenly a murdering psycho comes and cuts you up with scary machines." Good horror can be read like a book to find themes and meaning that either was not meant or at least not the center purpose of the film, like how Fahrenheit 451 is often read as a critique of censorship while the author stated repeatedly it was about the dumbing nature of television. No one is even bothering to do that 2022 version. It's all cash cow, no mystery.

[@user-ld6th3vw8e]

I feel like the skill with which Mildred can take down a piece of shit horror movie is going underappreciated: "I had been told thay this movie was super conservative, and let me tell ya, no it isn't. *beat* it would be much better if it was" holy shit I understand 100% thank you

[@ittixen]

"And I don't wanna give you the impression that Chainsaw 22 is bad merely as a sequel to the original film. It's more than capable of standing on its own as an abject failure."

[@siegeofdarkness8212]

"Because no one is going to buy a Todd McFarland toy of Drayton Sawyer" FU that made me laugh even though I used to collect Movie Maniacs

[@gregoryrau3894]

Honestly, everything you said about this movie was what I thought about all horror movies, until I started watching this channel. I had no idea I had only seen the soulless cash-grab movies.

[@BR-ec2ph]

I'm really glad you discovered better horror films!

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Oh yeah, there's a reason so many horror fans are so anti "Hollywood Horror"

[@kevinchristensen7510]

That's a fair assessment of almost any movie franchise. Especially now with the endless parade of superhero drek.

[@naomistarlight6178]

it doesn't help that you have to actually do your research to find the good films, while they make crappy ones every year and shove them down our collective throats and assholes with constant, annoying ads everywhere...

[@gregoryrau3894]

@@naomistarlight6178, on the upside, I've seen so many of those commercials now, that I can pretty reliably tell if a horror movie is going to be bad by the trailer.

[@juniorjones2074]

I legit got sad seeing mildred get sad while talking to bobby😭

[@PeaceLoveAndGuns]

Mildo, you still might not give a shit - but shotguns DEFINITELY do jam and also, they kind of suck. I love the troll about "Assault Rifle 15." It brings joy to my soul. XD

[@PeaceLoveAndGuns]

Also, its good to see that Bobby Duke is doing so well. I wish he would come back to you. Please swallow your pride and apologize for your abusive behavior...

[@ChaosRocket]

I think Bobby is saying “Mildew,” not “Mildo.” It’s funny because their name is Mildred but Bobby is mispronouncing it as “Mildew,” like the type of mold.

[@firbhamming2575]

A chainsaw is one of the most finicky easy-to-break tools bubba must be a genius of small motor repair

[@markwilliams2620]

They couldn't make a Ryobi 18volt? Gotta get with the times.

[@stevem.o.1185]

Mandy did a really good job of demonstrating this. The part in the chainsaw duel where Nicholas Cage couldn't get his to start, and the other guy pulls out an old-growth lumber chainsaw (I don't remember what the lorge bois are called, but that's what they're used for)... holy shit.

[@firbhamming2575]

@@stevem.o.1185 what a ride mandy thanks for reminding me. That part w bill Duke

[@Phono_Wizard]

Hey, Mildred, if you don't already have a TCM video you should make one that delves into the socioeconomic subtext of the first film. I'd love to hear your takes on that film.

[@JakeRobinson99]

When I saw TCM I first thought Turner Classic Movies. Thought this doesn't make sense.

[@TheVolginator]

@@JakeRobinson99 I totally did the same. I didn’t know Turner made such deep important movies

[@MAMoreno]

I was about to gripe, but then you offered a reluctant concession to TCM2, so I'm okay. I have a great fondness for that film's satirical commentary on capitalism. And because of that, I'd very much like a Drayton Sawyer action figure.

[@King-Bubel]

I didn’t even realize that this movie came out. Honestly, do people even see these belched out remakes? Who cares about them?

[@z-beeblebrox]

I WISH people didn't care about them. Often, these end up being what the general audience goes to see. There are so many weird and interesting and GOOD horror films every year that get no play while the guaranteed wide releases are always this kind of trash

[@hitrule5722]

@@z-beeblebrox Got some recommendations?

[@AndrossUT]

"Assault Rifle 15" is an absolutely delicious choice of words.

[@rubberlover666]

As someone who, for some reason, has watched ALL TEN Hellraiser movies...twice, I'd also argue to please stop franchising everything. The excuse that "if we let the rights lapse, some OTHER company will snap them up and make a bad version of the product...so, instead, we made OUR bad version of the product!" is inane and serves only to lower everyone's expectations to the point where we wonder if we ever actually liked these movies in the first place? TCM 2022 seems to have been made by people particularly contemptuous of the source material and only given one weekend in Bulgaria to film a barely 73 minute movie. And it shows. Fuck this movie and everyone involved with it.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

So many great stand alones get ruined by sequels, to the point that the original loses its own charm. Honestly wish we could just have more one off horrors that stay classic. One of the things I love about Del Toro, no useless unwanted sequels ruining the mystery or removing the fear by shedding too much light on the horror.

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

Hell, if they let rights lapse the biggest risk to them is that a sequel might actually get made by someone who gives a shit about the story.

[@awesomebeard1973]

all the Hellraiser movies suck IMO.

[@TheAntiSanta]

But if we did that, we would have never gotten Jason Lives and Jason Goes To Hell, the only good Friday the 13th movies. We'd just be left with a movie about a woman murdering Kevin Bacon because the people that did his job before him, let her kid drown because they were having sex. And the world of horror would be lesser for it.

[@rubberlover666]

@@TheAntiSanta Sure. But the F13th and NOES movies were among the first to utilize the "what if we just kept making these goddamned movies?" strategy. Does EVERY movie need a sequel? No. Ps) The only goof part of Jason Goes to Hell is the opening scene.

[@pinkdolly]

You’re hilarious and I love that you didn’t hold back. The original Texas Chainsaw is one of my favorite horror movies and I refuse to watch more than the first sequel because like you said, TCM needs no sequels! Love the topics you’ve been discussing. Keep up the horror content!!

[@1MrBryn]

"They'll look up at me and scream to be saved from new Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies. I'll stare back and whisper, No."

[@michaelmirantz2784]

your delivery on i wanna meet batman brought me so much joy.

[@a.p.2356]

Actually, pump action shotguns are prone to what's called "short stroking," where the operator jams the gun by not cycling the action completely. It's particularly common in stressful situations, like (to pick a random example), trying to shoot a chainsaw wielding murderer who is attempting to turn a couple of teens into chunky marinara. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that adds a bit to her character by showing that for all her training, she is still scared shitless. She knows how to do what she needs to do, but knowing how to do something and actually doing it are two different things. It humanizes her, because it shows that for all her badassery, her fear can still betray her. Either that, or the writers thought it would be more dramatic if that happened right then.

[@zafy-6186]

Not Part 2 and Next Generation (the best films of our time) being lumped in with the reboots in the intro... the disrespect.... (/lh)

[@Arthurguy95]

My older sister dared me to watch this after she had, and I sent her SOOOO MANY MESSAGES during my watch of it that she probably woke up to around 30 or so notifications from me.

[@paulrippcord506]

I’m in TCM2 fan camp, I love horror comedies and cheesy one-liners. It never takes itself seriously and it has a chainsaw duel at the end in an abandoned amusement park. TCM22 on the the other hand is a joyless experience that makes you want to watch one of the millions of Netflix serial killer shows instead.

[@charleslipscomb2567]

"I am the lord of the harvest!" "What's that? Some new health food bunch?" I love that line!

[@morganalabeille5004]

Every moment Drayton was onscreen in that movie was an absolute delight

[@Broyale26]

What I appreciate the most about TCM 2 is how Hooper embraced the schlocky excess of the genre without devolving into self-aware parody like Jason Lives. Hooper knew the cat was out of the bag so rather than try to replicate what made his original work (or take the approach of Jason Lives and self-consciously mock the audience for wanting a straight-up slasher sequel) he made a thrilling, fun, coked-up slasher treat! Sadly, many filmmakers and filmgoers who say they want their genre flicks to be "fun" mean they want ham-fisted, on-the-nose, dad-joke-level humor that mocks them rather than straight-up genre cheese.

[@brittanybecker170]

Now, if Sally came to the realization that Leatherface was, as an intellectually disabled person like the brother she loved and failed to protect, not able to comprehend the gravity of his actions, that might give her a moment of hesitation, even conflict because here is a person who has been abused into becoming a monster and he has something in common with a brother she is supposed to be avenging, and great deal of drama when she must, to save the teens, shoot him. I wish we had a single take on Leatherface the way he was in the first movie- all the more terrifying because he was the least evil and corrupt of the Sayer family and a victim of their abuse, too.

[@philgodin6493]

Sally:"You took everything from me!" Leatherface: "I don't even know who you are."

[@morganalabeille5004]

Personally I don't think there's any problem with making a sequel that doesn't mesh with the themes of the first movie. In ideal hands it could be a way of doing something new with the franchise. Like exploring Leatherface's past doesn't really fit with the original but it could be used to explore stuff like disability, child abuse, restorative justice, etc. Bringing back Sally could be a way to explore trauma and forgiveness in a way that doesn't just rip off Halloween. None of those things are bad as far as themes go even if they aren't like the original. But like, the problem is that none of the sequels aside the first one have been good. Just hire some competent writers. Or just take the Jason route and put the Sawyer family in a variety of wacky situations.

[@coltonwilkie241]

This franchise is 49 years old now and the amount of good movies in it can be counted with one finger, a pinky finger at that. If there was ever a time to stop, it was exactly 49 years ago right after the first one came out. I will however, shoutout MKX for actually not making a joke of this series... In a fighting game about Gods and shit.

[@Tamlinearthly]

The "AR" in "Armalite" stands for "Assault Rifle."

[@Titleknown]

Hot take: The only valid new TCM movie we could get would be Jason Vs Leatherface, where the ending is basically "Love Wins"

[@GendoRokabundi]

Or: Leatherface Vs Michael Myers and they team up to kill the producers that won’t let their franchises die.

[@reggie3993]

Honestly I could see it. Out of the big four slasher villains, those two are probably the most sympathetic.

[@morganalabeille5004]

@@GendoRokabundi Jason vs Leatherface vs Michael Myers and it's just about Michael and Jason teaching Bubba sign language

[@FrenkTheJoy]

Well, commentary on gentrification was not something I would've expected from a horror movie like this. I think on its own that could work for a different movie, maybe a horror-comedy. The local rural serial killer is having a harder and harder time finding victims because of all these rich white people moving in and taking away his good murder spots and putting up cameras everywhere? The heroes of the film can be a group of local minorities with a token white person and the white person dies first? Hell, since I said it's a horror-comedy, have the first two important victims of the movie be reported on the news as like "beautiful, kind, loved by everyone, it's a tragedy to have her gone" for the conventionally attractive white woman and then like "black man also dead" and they choose a mug shot for the report. IDK I'm apparently now writing the political commentary that this movie was trying to make but in a way that's actually saying something and isn't just "all sides have a point!

[@morganalabeille5004]

The People Under the Stairs. Midred made a video on it a while ago.

[@donnab0518]

Your videos are one of the few things that actually brings me joy in these crazy days. Thanks you. Sending love from Ottawa!

[@aka_pcfx]

Also Leatherface is at least 70 years old and still outruns everyone, even while carrying a chainsaw...

[@JonMayBowles]

You've done it again Mildred. This was a great way to spend 12 minutes.

[@emilystewart6175]

After hearing you talk about the limp political commentary I wonder how much of it was shot to be one specific way (potentially leaning more conservative), but in the editing room it was toned down/given more to the other side to try and ""appeal to a wider audience"", and that's how we got this film that doesn't try to take either side and thus appeals to neither.

[@jeremysmith4620]

I think there could have been space in Texas Chainsaw Massacre for sequels. besides the gloriousness of part 2 or the better OG House of 1,000 corpses because they are literally the same movie. Let's say the family had to leave Texas because of the events of the first movie. They naturally movie to the West Virginian Appalachian Mountains, as the predatory mining companies have left the sparse communities devastated by drugs and poverty when they scaled back and then left after extracting all they could from the Earth and the people of the region. You can weave in a strong anti-capitalist message along with environmental issues. Juxtapose the horrors of the anti-union slaughters of the past with the murders of Leatherface and his family in the current era (whatever era it is set in, 1970s and beyond) It could be an interesting take, place the characters in a new setting, play off similar but somewhat different tropes. It's not that hard. If you want to stay somewhere near the original setting move to nuclear testing facilities, ala The Hills Have Eyes (only the original, fuck the rest of those movies) Even perhaps move it to communities that feature seasonal worker exploitation like those that seek a better life for their families through migrant work picking fruit or the failure of the ecological collapse of the Salton Sea. There are lots of interesting things that could be done by relocating LF and the Fam while expanding on classic horror trope symbolism, like the struggles against the wealthy or the violation of the planet for wealth. Instead we get this lazy derivative shit time and time again, sadly. So the legacy of a truly groundbreaking horror movie that used the genre to subtly (by today's standards at least) reflect on the Vietnam War, the Nixon administration, those left behind by the socio-economic stratification of capitalism, and the ever present conflict of youth culture trying to find it's way in a world that doesn't belong to them (yet)

[@morganalabeille5004]

Personally I think they should take the Psycho 2 route of Bubba getting therapy after being declared not guilty by reason of insanity. Then he opens an Etsy store.

[@awesomebeard1973]

part 2 glorious? Ok now go take your meds

[@bronsonoquinn2416]

Not gonna lie: I misread your first sentence as implying “There could be a Texas Chainsaw Massacre in space”. The rest of your post is actually interesting and dead on. But yeah, didn’t go where I was thinking 😂

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@bronsonoquinn2416 No, no, no. I was traumatized enough by space during the 90s. Jason and the Leprechaun in space was one thing, but my precious Hellraiser franchise? It was just too far and bad horror in space broke me. It took many repeated viewings of Pandorum and Event Horizon for me to trust space to be scary again. Then again chainsaw moon cannibals does have a certain ring to it now that you mention it. But only in that schlock Iron Sky type of manner. I really wish I could have seen some of the ideas I brought up. The sociopolitical commentary of the 1st Chainsaw was one of my favorite aspects as it could say something about current culture while still being wickedly entertaining, the hallmark of a real classic.

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@awesomebeard1973 TCM2 was glorious. Not as a Texas Chainsaw sequel in earnest, but TCM2 was just so batshit and fun. I think Hooper did what he hoped to achieve and created an amazing parody of his original work while making a highly entertaining film. Is it good? Oh God no. Is it fun? Oh hell yes.

[@TheBechtloff]

But if they stop now we'll never get the one where he goes to space.

[@a_w_young]

The only thing I feel bad about is that Colin Stetson got to do the music, and Stetson is an incredible artist and better films deserve his work and I'm sure it was fun to score this one even if it wasn't great.

[@eclectic-kitty]

Yeah! I listened to the score and it was genuinely pretty cool! I hope he gets to score better movies soon, I really love his work!

[@CSGraves]

I mean, realistically, there was no way he was gonna top those sped up cats making biscuits videos.

[@eclectic-kitty]

@@CSGraves wait what. I need to know what it is you're talking about

[@michimatsch5862]

@@CSGraves wat.

[@CSGraves]

@@eclectic-kitty They've practically become a subgenre of video, but here's one example: kzbin.infov_FonM4GYOc

[@markwhitney3746]

Oh hey I was just talking to someone about how bad this was!! Extremely glad you made a video so I don’t actually have to watch the dang thing myself

[@williambrown5114]

Wish I had waited longer for a review before I gave in and watched it 😮‍💨

[@JerekBilbar]

When I saw the thumbnail for this video, I thought “God. I do NOT wanna hear another person talk about the awful Netflix *Texas Chainsaw*.” When I saw it was from Scaredy Cats, I thought “God! I cannot WAIT to hear a rant about the awful Netflix *Texas Chainsaw*!” What fun!

[@WitchyWabbitz2929]

"Artlessly vomited into our media-holes" is the best phrase I've heard in a long time.

[@jamesrule1338]

Why haven't the set one in space yet. Or have Leather Face fight Pinhead. Give us something.

[@KEvronista]

tcm II has the best lines! "dog will hunt!" "the sawyers win again!" "in a vida da gada, baby?" "must be one of those hard-shell peppercorns." "I'M BRINGING IT ALL DOWN!" KEvron

[@maxmfpayne]

Shotguns like that can pretty easily jam or misfire once they've been worn down some. Also the shell could be a dud, they could do a scene where she's out of ammo earlier in the movie and she picks some up laying around, but it's old, hence the shell being a dud

[@wakelyn]

you should really give texas chainsaw 4 another chance-it was made by the co-writer of the original and it actually ended up being a kind of proto-cabin in the woods, criticizing the hollywood franchise machine and what it did to the art of horror filmmaking. it’s often ignored due to its place in the flood of mediocre sequels, but it’s a genuinely worthy successor and better than 2 in my opinion.

[@MAMoreno]

Your description of the film's merits are certainly accurate, but all of that commentary doesn't show up until the very end of the film. Until then, you're stuck with a very mediocre remake of the original film that just happens to have two great actors at its center. I'd give TCM2 the edge without a second thought. (I'd still take The Next Generation over the generic Part 3 or the utterly pointless 2003 remake, though.)

[@wakelyn]

@@MAMoreno i disagree-it only becomes readily apparent what the film is saying at the end, but if you’re looking for it, the commentary is present throughout. agreed on 3 though-it’s absolute garbage, and i’m saying that as someone who enjoyed both 3D and 2022

[@zzyzazazz8405]

@@MAMoreno I actually really like the 2003 remake. It lacks a lot of the nuance that makes the original so great, but taken on its own merits it is a rock solid horror movie. The redneck murder family is scary, the redneck murder sheriff is very scary, and while it would be nice if Leatherface was more of a big baby like he is in the original he hasn't been turned into Chainsaw Jason yet. One of its strongest points though is how visceral the fear that the main characters are feeling is. Their fear seems real in a way that it doesn't in a lot of horror movies. It definitely has problems. They don't quite understand the socio-economic themes of the original, so yes, the slaughterhouse closed but also they live in a plantation house which is something that would have a lot of symbolism if they clearly hadn't just picked it because "South equals plantation house right?" And of course Leatherface's characterisation leaves a lot to be desired but it still comes away as my second favourite TCM movie

[@MAMoreno]

@@zzyzazazz8405 I won't fault someone for enjoying it, but you did bring up some of my main issues with the remake. I can't express how infuriated I am with that plantation house and its lack of thematic significance to the story. Like, if you're gonna go there, give me the Sawyers by way of the O'Haras: "This saw as my witness, I'll never be hungry again!"

[@zzyzazazz8405]

@@MAMoreno and let's be honest, if they live in a plantation house they should have owned the slaughterhouse, not worked in it

[@Taylor_Lindise]

The biggest thing that sucked about bringing back the "original girl" is that... It wasn't even the same actress. The original actress died in 2014, and like... They just brought back the character to kill her off on screen.

[@BlueBeetle1939]

Its called the assault rifle 15 because it was the 15th assault rifle put into production by the Gun corporation

[@sugakunoneko]

The Bobby animations are getting better all the time, and I'm really thrilled to see him doing so well.

[@Schottladen]

The best thing about TCM 2022 is that it made me rewatch the original again

[@jesseboyd8412]

The rhythm in this script was so good it left me blinking: "I wanna meet Batman"

[@mcrmy119]

I thought that the cop scene near the beginning was intended to be a subtextual commentary on horror fandom, or at least could be seen as that. The officers tell the gentrifiers that the locals don't like them coming in and trying to plant their own roots and act like they own the places where generations have already made home. It felt like it was *almost* trying to say something about modern Funko Pop geek collector culture eclipsing the old school Fangoria-reading outcast crowd from when horror was more of a niche, or something about classic slasher serieseses getting continually rebooted/remade for new age audiences that have only watched the Kill Count videos???? The whole thing was muddled and the movie was dumb. The ending made me laugh until I cried though.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

I dunno if they're really gentrifiers. They're a Black Nationalist and Land Back organisation that is buying an abandoned (very key word here) town that has been almost entirely foreclosed on in order to escape racialised violence, and they're doing it on land that was made rich by the labour of the enslaved beforehand. Anybody left in the town was a coloniser upholding the memory of their great-grandfather and there was a heavy "progressive city folk vs regressive country folk" theme set into it, playing on the whole narrative of fox news rants about city slickers ruining the country with their soy lattes and inclusion and how a good old fashioned white America is the best and should be preserved forever. There was a very open racism undertone to that discussion, starting with the black guy joking about "put your hands where they can see them", harkening into the way white police often shoot first and ask questions later when dealing with POC, especially black men. But from the angle of "stupid city slicking black kid, white cops aren't racist, see?" setting it up to be thematically a film set in direct opposition, not to gentrification or landlords, but to Land Back and Black Nationalist/Inclusionist/Enfranchisement operations. Gentrification would probably have been a good message, but it absolutely was not the theme they were going for, or at least it wasn't the one they ended up with.

[@TheAntiSanta]

The movie's not smart enough to have tried to make that commentary.

[@johnrambo4252]

Yeah I get it you're special and quirky, I'm sorry for ruining your favorite movies bro, I swear I won't be watching Kill Count videos anymore

[@sharkcereal3445]

I've never been one of the first viewers of a video!! this is great and you're great

[@MJTRadio]

By “Stop making these movies,” I initially thought Mildread may have meant “Long after sequels to the original movie that ignores the rest of the canon and feels like limp nostalgiabait.” To which I say, “Eh, let it ride out until we can get a Nightmare on Elm Street follow up. Good or bad, I wanna see it happen.”

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

Wes Craven is dead, plz no more sequels Nightmare and Scream movies. Watch something original or a movie like Dune that's actually a lot better than its 80s version

[@MJTRadio]

I saw the new Dune. It was fine. It hardly warrants being called new or original though when it's adapting a 60 year old book whose author is also dead, which seems to be part of your argument.

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

I didn't know this was a franchise.... I don't generally like horror but man do you make good pitches, you and Dan drambles both. id watch everything you have pitched.

[@mollywantshugs5944]

For some reason I almost want to see something like “Leatherface and the Evil Dead” specifically so Leatherface and Ash could have a chainsaw duel

[@asksalottle220]

I really enjoy your script writing and delivery.

[@oliverhunt6813]

I'm going to write a movie called Texas Chainsaw Massacre; Leatherface Takes Chicago...but it's about Chicago pedicabbers, and Leatherface maybe makes a brief appearance as a passenger who stiffs the pedicabber but tips in venison jerky...that he got at Trader Joe's

[@matthewkillion5933]

The problem I had with Rob Zombie’s version of Halloween is that it paints Michael Myers as a victim of abuse and not some unstoppable, unexplainable force of nature.

[@kingboobs20]

John Carpenter himself said this.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

I liked what Rob was going for, but it never should have been a Halloween movie. Rob does his best work when it's his original IPs, and when he's telling his stories the way he envisions them without trying to work them into an existing concept. I enjoy a sympathetic villain, and I enjoy explorations of abuse and mental trauma and the way it can make us either feel like, or be viewed as, monsters- but I like my slasher villains to be evil without cause.

[@Patrick-Phelan]

And I can get behind "there are no monsters, just people" but you probably shouldn't put that meaning in a film series with a famous ending bit of "it was the boogeyman!"

[@AbdallahTeach]

Why's that bad? sorry

[@matthewkillion5933]

@@AbdallahTeach sympathizing with murderers is difficult for me. I’d be much more comfortable hating someone who just kills because it’s fun.

[@ironreed2654]

Let's just be glad they haven let Rob Zombie remake this yet. Edit: Drayton Sawyer toys absolutely exist.

[@shaunmccomish8572]

While there can be fun in some of the sequels and reboots they come across as disposable compared to the original. Other series like Nightmare on Elm Street and Phantasm have their ups and downs but at least have a better continuity. Another film by Tobe Hooper, Eaten Alive, which was made between TCM and TCM2 is criminally underrated. It has the same absurdist approach to 'forgotten people' Urbanoia as The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and even has a real interesting cast; it has both Freddy Krueger and Winslow Leach from Phantom of the Paradise!

[@redtexan7053]

Leatherface is the good guy in this movie. You can’t convince me otherwise. You can always butcher gentrifiers, cops, and land lords. It’s always morally correct.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

You uhhh missed the entire Black Nationalism and Land Back communist town part, didn't you? This was a movement of largely POC who just wanted to get away from racial violence. People buying their own place to live aren't gentrifiers, nor are they landlords tf kind of read is that? If there were any landlords in the movie, they'd have been bankers, since all the properties were owned by the bank.

[@kalexander1981]

@@Jane-oz7pp plus the fact that the buyers are largely impotent, cowardly, silly people makes it clear that the writers do not agree with them. The story is of Leatherface saving a dead town from dumb gen x kids.

[@awesomebeard1973]

spoken like an entitled lazy bum

[@johnrambo4252]

@@kalexander1981 idk to me it was like an allegory to rich american people moving to very different places and thinking they understand the locals and try to change things for what they consider "the best" only to realise it isn't that simple and that the locals have their own culture and ways of living that are different from the so called "developed" people from the US (or any other first world western country).

[@aaronkelly1762]

@@johnrambo4252 Not to mention that there are some subtle nuances here and there with some of the locals, like the gas station muttering to himself "damn gentrifiers" as the characters level, the cops telling them to treat the town with respect because it was home to a lot of people, and Richter's whole thing of being your typical a-hole Texan on the surface only to reveal that he actually does care for people. Heck Richter was the best character of the movie. With that said, the movie isn't very good, and it certainly doesn't feel like a Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie, but if you want a dumb slasher movie with fun kills and lots of gore, you'd probably enjoy it.

[@coolfiend2616]

Abbot and Costello in "Leatherface Gets Cancelled"

[@EmonWBKstudios]

I can see the scene playing like this: Leatherface and Ranger woman stare each other down. She points her gun square at Leatherface's head, she's nervous but confident. She's got him, after all these years, she's got the monster that traumatized her. She squeezes the trigger, slowly breathing out as she does. But all that comes out is a fizz! She freezes, a quick second she pumps her shotgun and once again, fires, but she's out of shells! She realizes she wasted all her ammo and her last shell was a dud, leaving her defenseless. she reaches into her pocket, attempting to grab at least one more shell, but just as she does, Leatherface moves toward her. She realizes her fate, fighting back tears, she roars at Leatherface, but just as she does, Leatherface stops and begins to leave the room, walking outside, leaving a stunned taxes ranger to ponder what has happened.

[@isaacbear7115]

You cannot be a ranger and legally not have a big iron on your hip. 0/10 for that alone.

[@Patrick-Phelan]

Well, that's why she made that slip when she was gonna shoot Leatherface.

[@JetScreamer_YT]

There was some gore in TCM 1, but it was the editing, and set design that made it scary. It was a smart movie. It was a psychological horror movie. The second movie as you said went in a different direction on purpose. It was fun. Every movie after that, they went to the gore. I have no problem with gore, but it makes the franchise like every other franchise. Everybody loves Leatherface! But we don't know much about Leatherface. And I would love to see a movie that would "flesh" him out. They never explore his gender confusion. I did like the bus scene, I can't lie. I miss the wacky family!

[@morganalabeille5004]

Tbh I don't think Leatherface is that mysterious of a character. Everything we need to know we learn in the first two movies, he's just a developmentally disabled guy raised in an abusive cult-like environment who loves his family and views all outsiders as threats. It would be interesting to see a movie that's more sympathetic towards him and actually explores his gender identity but that's what fanfic is for.

[@JetScreamer_YT]

@@morganalabeille5004 Fair enough. He isn't all that deep.

[@kevinhayes3672]

I love the alternative reality where Bobby Duke has solved world hunger.

[@aaronlutes2126]

Love the main channel but it's a bummer. It's nice to hear your opinions on things that dont matter in a real way. Rock on

[@MrLeafeater]

I've been waiting for your take on this one, before I made my decision about it. Thank-you! I'm gonna go out RIGHT NOW, and not watch a Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie. (Edit: please add my echo to the voices in yer head, that demand a real review of the first TCM.)

[@WhyIsYoutubeSoTerrible]

You said in a live stream the Bobby Duke is like Gary Vee but I think he's already shown he's a way better and more humble person

[@alsonolan]

The "AR" actually stands for ArmaLite Rifle for the company that manufactured it. Not that it isn't a horrendously destructive and hopefully eventually nonexistent weapon. It's just not marketed that way.

[@travatron4000]

Joke: Missed

[@alsonolan]

@@travatron4000 Yes, I sub both of Mildred's channels because I assume everything they say is completely unironic and so my explanation was a response to an unambiguously wrong definition on their comedy film analysis series about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Thank you so much for clarifying that this was, in fact, a joke from a comedian. I was under the faulty presumption that Mildred had slammed on the brakes for their comedy joke 'em up video for a one sentence manifesto about what the acronym "AR" stands for. So thank you for letting me know, with your very big throbbing brain, that the comedian was telling a joke. I will now be placing my hands inside of my toaster on the highest setting so that I will never again be tempted to respond with additional information regarding the contents of a joke.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

@@alsonolan Probably quicker to just say "yes I know she joked, but the audience might not know the actual meaning". Still slam dunks the other guy, but I get my drama with less reading.

[@alsonolan]

@@Jane-oz7pp Allow me to edit: Know joke. Say anyway. Toaster hands.

[@davidtaylor142]

So this movie is just the "Actually both sides are bad. Bow before my superior intellect" meme but as a movie.

[@chadalpha7983]

Okay I was getting mad you didn't make a caveat for Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, just because the poster is a parody of The Breakfast Club, which is my favorite part of that movie", but then you made a caveat for TCM 2 so I have no issue with your video so I made this comment for your algorithm

[@AetherTiger8]

im gonna miss bubba:( he should have gotten a movie like joker where he just gets to dance his heart out for half the scenes

[@intoxicatedmasculinity]

I would only disagree insofar as part 4 DID try something different in a bunch of ways, though, admittedly, did not carry any of them out well at all. And in that one at least you get to see Mathew McConaughey chewing every piece of that could get his hungry mouth on.

[@andredegiant3876]

Tobey Hooper when to hold back and relied mostly on perceived violence. Now it's all about overindulgence

[@glitchedoom]

Congratulations Halloween Kills, you are no longer the worst movie spawned by Halloween 2018.

[@rubenotero7100]

My favorite scene was watching leatherface struggle to start a 50 year old chain saw and saying out loud "He's gonna have to clean the carbs FOR SURE." and then the very next scene is him doing that.

[@Aware_Bear]

I was half expecting her to say "evil dies tonight" throughout the whole movie.

[@DreadBirate]

You should make a video about Midnight Mass, one of the best vampire things there’s been in a while.

[@beebalmbadil]

Hang in there, Mil-Dread. I know you'll get to meet batman one day

[@ericpeterson7712]

I don't know how you feel about found footage, but Hell House LLC is a masterpiece I think, FF done right. I was happy to see Boddy Duke again! Hope he comes back. I think he misses you but won't admit to it

[@Charlie-eh2wj]

"Maybe leatherface can only be killed when in the presence of teens!" made me laugh out loud. Teens are his kryptonite

[@aaronkelly1762]

Are you sure? I've only seen one teen character actually do any real damage to him in all the movies, and that's in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. The only other times I've seen him hurt are by middle-aged white guys in cowboy hats.

[@noxthebarbarian]

okay mildred you got it. for you, i wont watch any new texas chainsaw massacre movies

[@Broyale26]

What I appreciate the most about TCM 2 is how Hooper embraced the schlocky excess of the genre without devolving into self-aware parody like Jason Lives. Hooper knew the cat was out of the bag so rather than try to replicate what made his original work (or take the approach of Jason Lives and self-consciously mock the audience for wanting a straight-up slasher sequel) he made a thrilling, fun, coked-up slasher treat! Sadly, many filmmakers and filmgoers who say they want their genre flicks to be "fun" mean they want ham-fisted, on-the-nose, dad-joke-level humor that mocks them rather than straight-up genre cheese.

[@AndrossUT]

The ongoing story with Bobby Duke is tremendous. Only bested by the Joel Haver Animated Universe coming together.

[@MissAshley42]

9:34 - Ah, yes, the famous Parker-Stone Gambit. Always a crowd-pleaser.* _*(Not actually a crowd-pleaser. Screw South Park, and screw this movie.)_

[@Boonehams]

I once had a shotgun jam on me... sort of. I had fired once and tried to cock the gun, but the shell was stuck and wouldn't eject from the chamber. I had to pump a couple times and mess with the ejection port before the spent shell came out and I could fire again. It's possible to jam a shotgun, at least in that instance.

[@Macabresque]

I actually just watched the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre a couple of days ago for the first time. I was a little nervous about how violent and gory it was going to be, hearing about all the controversy that surrounded it.... Needless to say, I was surprised to find out how little violence is actually shown on screen. It's so mild compared to a lot of stuff I've seen! Still, it was a great film. Thanks for the heads up to not seek out any of these awful sequels. 😅

[@aaronkelly1762]

Toby Hooper originally wanted the movie to be PG, but regardless of how many cuts he made, they just kept giving it an R rating.

[@sable2146]

Let me summarize: it is a troll movie, written by troll writers, with troll arguments, designed to troll for viewers and copyright retention.