TF2 - 3 Weapon Concepts for Demoknight

[@Toofty]

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[@drewnitz7968]

I think you should watch the movie RoboCroc(2013)

[@Manuel-ek2cf]

The Croods

[@ananmaysahu4563]

Toofty, you might want to relook at yourself and check your soul is still there, because you've just made a deal with the devil.(or an archdemon or fallen angel atleast they're kinda pathetic)

[@theelite8196]

more like raid shadow maggots

[@fauxFrost]

GAY shadow legends

[@user-25352]

"You cannot use a shield with this weapon" >equips sticky jumper

[@backflip883]

Imagine seeing 3 clumpes uo snipers, then going, WHAM

[@shuckid8290]

Thats why im saying it should have a horrible weapon switch speed

[@aquamarinerose5405]

I was gonna say that.. it doesn't seem like a Demoknight weapon if it's unable to be used with shields?

[@혜성-j3c]

R.I.P Scottsman's skullcutter

[@terrencearc]

Imagine the random crits

[@StickMaster500]

I quite like the idea of there being a Demoknight Shield that gives you complete invulnerability while charging making it a guarantee approach to get a head or an escape option without taking any damage but the downside would be it’s resistances would be on par or less than the Tide Turner

[@Manuel-ek2cf]

Do you own pc 2?

[@playerfaiz7054]

tide turner + mantreads?

[@pianolegpete5690]

Why do I see you on every tf2 video?

[@gibbous_silver]

Soaring scottsman + caber for BIG JUMP

[@monkeydetonation]

Uhhh that sounds a little broken

[@carolthepyro899]

Pfft who needs Raid: Shadow Legends when ya got Red: Shadow Maggots?

[@phylaxinator7040]

RED: SHADOW MAGGOTS

[@f.b.iagent3971]

THAT’S GOOD! scout....SCOOOUUUT!!!

[@carolthepyro899]

@@f.b.iagent3971 Im Heavy!

[@CrabbyGamin1]

Yes

[@badassjorge9272]

sounds like a hallow knight thing

[@azerithboxxed4339]

You could have named the boots The Soarin' Scotsman

[@diangthericeball]

Azerith true, big missed opportunity

[@racercowan]

Nah: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_A3_4472_Flying_Scotsman

[@juicyapple2646]

And the hammer hammered hangover

[@giambattistagiannoccaro4043]

The High, Flying Scotsmann

[@anaceattorneyfangreatgame9770]

The Dynamite rollers

[@everestattack4793]

Imagine a sword where, upon hitting an enemy mid-flight, does the same amount of damage the market gardener does, crazy right?

[@adus2821]

that'd be soooooo crazy valve please

[@brittanysqueech]

just give demo a market gardener

[@weedeater1682]

Could change the caber to do that, it would give people a reason to use it.

[@decimation9780]

Leal Benson That’s what the Old Caber did. Then Volvo nerfed it.

[@weedeater1682]

@@decimation9780 oh i forgot lol

[@chocolatebrowniesreal]

Ok ok hear me out Glock

[@nikoloquinones9121]

give demo an rc-xd

[@chocolatebrowniesreal]

nick jr mmm At that point just go all out and give him a Negev from CS:GO

[@SOMEONE-pr8qp]

Yes wait no give it to engi

[@SOMEONE-pr8qp]

UnlawfulWaffle nooooo that’s spies weapon

[@Name-ul8es]

''Y0u bl00dY trEspAsSed mY nEighB0rho0d.''

[@ezrac704]

Dutch courage + stickybomb + hammered head meta.

[@xenu4life]

"Very long range, can hit multiple targets, can 2-shot 200 health classes." Dude, you just described the grenade launcher...

[@scarymeunster9095]

Okay, so I have one thing that I would change already - • The Hammered Head No way you could ever reason blocking shield use entirely is balanced at all. That’d make the weapon almost entirely counterintuitive, since it only receives buffs in combat, but entirely blocks the use of its most obvious companion. My solution? Just remove that - Shields can be equipped. However, my replacement isn’t too far off • No Shield Charge Yeah, okay, I lied. It is pretty much the same. But there is one big difference here - you still receive resistances. This way, it isn’t completely removing weapon options - because, come on, TF2 is all about wonky and ridiculous combos. Removing an entire family of weapons would be a sin.

[@jmurray1110]

so essentially everyone will pair it with the charge n' targe and probably go hybrid knight to allow for quicker fights (probably the iron bomber or stock more than others since the lock 'n load clip may be an issue and double donks require precise timings that may not be possible you you get swarmed

[@bapre9124]

Just nerf the charge, like 50% slower charge. The charge is an insane and needed tool on the demoknight, removing it completely is an absolute mistake.

[@NotNowNorth]

How about instead of no charge, you take more damage from melees, making other demoknights, boxer heavies and trollders the only thing that can really put you down. Like trying to stop a demoman who has 6+ heads with the eyelander. You need to focus him down to stuff the rampage, I only say this as a demoknight that uses the Zato with Tide so rushing people down and getting my health back to chain kills can be very annoying to fight against. Especially if the demoman can trimp away or to you.

[@Ze_N00B]

How about this: (+) damage buff is equivalent to potential charge time. (+10% for every 1 seconds) (-) no actual charge Now, the shield charge still makes a difference without actually being used.

[@ihatehandlestheyareannoying]

what about the sticky jumper?

[@notedwardtf2]

demoknight tf2 am i right guys haha

[@itwasourintelligence]

hahahaha yeah!

[@playerfaiz7054]

mhm, demoknight tf2

[@LucarioNN]

Demoknight tf2 indeed

[@jackbob3038]

haha yeyeye demomenihte

[@engineer9497]

Omg

[@Nah...Imactually]

Instead of removing random crits. *LET'S GIVE ALL WEAPONS RANDOM CRITS*

[@danker7680]

All or None

[@minisuman4011]

DIO!!!!!!!

[@SOMEONE-pr8qp]

It’s all or nothing

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

No.

[@habibazizi7091]

Only crits

[@ariaa.9428]

“Can hit multiple enemies” tf2 broken melee system: *yeaah... no*

[@fancyb.p.6122]

Just turn it into an explosion with the hammer striking the ground and kicking up dust.

[@radonnawisdom6723]

Well you would be more likely to hit one guy if you could hit multiple

[@demi-femme4821]

You generate a 48×48 HU box in front of the Demo when you press special fire. Any entity in the box gets hit.

[@2fortcow]

@@demi-femme4821 you will never be a real woman

[@a.person1805]

For the battering ram: I think it should have highly increased knockback and no damage, and throw people away in random directions, and give more turning power. Just yeet into a group of people and toss them around.

[@ionlyusethisforrandomunlis5565]

but being a melee-only class and launching your enemies far away is kinda a bad combo

[@a.person1805]

@@ionlyusethisforrandomunlis5565 I was thinking it could be more of a support role weapon. "Ok guys i got battering, get ready to push on them" *charge* "They're disoriented, get them get them!"

[@yocats9974]

Black Reindhart

[@jocaleb0236]

It’d be good for disrupting ubers atleast

[@brittanysqueech]

that would still be overpowered

[@cyruscheng499]

0:20 **cries in caber**

[@swordslash50]

demoknight weapons in team tower defence twice

[@hel1140]

Demonstration man 14th century armored guy weapons in team defense fort the second, being a sequel of team defense fort 1, which is an entirely a mod of earthquake without the word “earth”.

[@PantheraLeo04]

I think he should have a full shield that grants extra resistances but with little to no charge since all of his shields right now are bucklers

[@bioemiliano]

Full shield would look weird

[@owohub9378]

the charge n targe?

[@jonahalkana5195]

@@owohub9378 yeah but like a with a bad charge

[@Talon323]

The problem with the flying scothsman is that we already kinda have it. Loose cannon

[@owohub9378]

and the caber

[@FungiCaptain]

3:19 ItsZynca has found: The Phlogistinator The entire enemy team: welp.

[@AD_Nelson]

Honestly, make The Flying Scotsman like the old Atomizer: -Grants an extra mid-air jump -Extra jump deals self-damage

[@bruhmoment5465]

"Is there a place for blast jumping with demoknight* >loose cannon has joined the game >Iron bomber has joined the game

[@smugsuperoof4314]

Me: sees dynamite boots in thumbnail Also me: heck yeah

[@cayde-6feetunder531]

«Can hit multiple targets at once» *Sweeping Edge IV*

[@Mezzy..]

Uh oh, looks like toofty got consumed by raid shadow legends too 😅

[@Syco600]

Kroko Mez stfu he was just sponsoring a game ( a trash game but still a game ) so let him be

[@kv_6975]

@@Syco600 E

[@nostur4984]

sellout

[@a.person1805]

@@kv_6975 A

[@kv_6975]

@@a.person1805 Sports

[@jettisonantics]

The boot idea is fine, and I like the trade-ins, but I think it should instead be a tool to assist with trimping. Currently trimping is just a bug, but with this weapon it will make trimping a mechanic more like rocket jumping. I'm thinking maybe it could prevent fall damage while trimping, increase charge duration and turn control while trimping, and maybe even dealing crits with melee and/or sheild bashing weapons while in the air like a demoknight market garden.

[@jettisonantics]

Trimping will still be possible without it, but the upsides are enough that you would consider trading in a launcher or the booties for the improved trimp mechanics.

[@water4608]

Happy you got sponsored even by raid tbh, you deserve more

[@Toofty]

Thanks dude!

[@DrKat]

Raid is very low, but I still respect you taking the deal. It's life changing money, and I can respect taking the opportunity, even if I do despise the game itself

[@kv_6975]

@@Toofty E

[@casuallyuncalm9488]

It's hilarious to see a demoknight running *away* from an ubersaw-wielding medic

[@Paper_Brain]

What about the “Celtic’s crusher” for the hammer? And “keg’o’courage” for the keg?

[@hydrasent563]

I think it would be cool to have a shield that acts like an actual shield, you can't charge with it but you can hold it up to block some damage.

[@scringle2844]

toofty has finally made it raid sponsor time bois !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@phylaxinator7040]

R A I D:S H A D O W L E G E N D

[@Bacony_Cakes]

oh fuck no

[@ananmaysahu4563]

@@phylaxinator7040 RAID: ADVERTISING LEGENDS

[@begoneheretic9760]

Imagine running the flying Scotsman with the caber and a sticky launcher. BIG JUMP

[@falconsm6812]

6:47 if you want to skip the raid shadow legends ad

[@kv_6975]

E

[@bonzai8664]

With the ullapool cable you can blast jump as demoknight

[@thermalthruster]

I think that the ram would make the claidwhatever kinda useless. And the flying scotsman would be using the caber mobility options but better

[@NotNowNorth]

Caber is a fun meme but then it come to demoknighting it's really underwhelming. It was fun for harassing snipers but after the nerf it just kinda works as a catch someone running to a health pack kinda thing. But if they gave demoman more knight weapons that would shake up what will be used and who or what can counter him. Like imagine a shield that stops all knock back (pyros, soldiers, FON scouts other demos) but you get little resistance from it so you can guarantee that you get in and start smacking the target but you need to be more careful with getting shot.

[@professorpeculiar2849]

I mean part of what makes the claighdemor good is using it with the Tide Turner

[@CVETKOSLAV]

my concept for shield the ramming ram you turn left or right but while charging you are 25% faster and it charge lasts 50% longer also it recharges in same amount of time

[@No-pm4ss]

“Raid shadow legends” *Yeah right* *...* *Oh, they’re pretty cool then*

[@PcPilot82]

No, raid is not cool.

[@kv_6975]

@@PcPilot82 E

[@MykeGG]

3:28 Comp demo mains: *heavy breathing*

[@15098D]

Alt name for the Flying Scotsman: A Killer’s Heels

[@ikiry0830]

My concern with the Hammered Head is that it wouldn't really see use with actual Demoknights if you can't use a shield with it. After all, then they'd just go with ranged weapons + it.

[@wholefttheydogatcentralpoint]

Wait, the second weapon is actually not a demo knight weapon. It's practically the opposite.

[@badzombies2003]

I think the hammered head could have a different set of stats. Keep the old set, with the no shield equipped replaced by 'If you have a sheild equipped, reduced charge duration, reduced charge damage, and 10-20% lower resistances, while the hammered head now deals 10% less damage than the hammered head without a shield'. In real life, you can use a shield with a two handed weapin, but you'll trade off some power/defense in exchange for some versatility. And yes, two handed weapons and shields are depicted in artistic work (mainly with spears and full-body shields), which is why propose this change.

[@milx7210]

"this video is sponsored by r-" 10>> 10>> 10>> 10>> 10>> 10>>

[@drippyf3]

It's annoying, and actually a pretty bad game, but I heard they offer a lot of money if you talk about it in a video, so toofty probably hates the game, but wants the money. A man's gotta eat ya know

[@milx7210]

@@drippyf3 yeah, i think the money they offer is around the 4 digits?

[@Grapevin]

editing in this video is fantastic, love the weapon reveal screens a lot

[@Lyrune]

I find it a little weird that you can't use a shield with The Hammered Head. Okay, logically, it makes sense, but then it's not a Demoknight melee anymore, so I think it may have worked better in a weapon concepts for Demoman. But I *love* the boots concept. My only gripe with it is that it should probably be activated like a scout double jump instead of hitting the ground. I think it would be cool if it passively recharged, but you needed an ammo pack if you wanted to prevent about 100 self damage. When it comes to the Dutch Courage, I think it would be even cooler if it were a secondary, making a new subclass similar to Hybrid Knight. Here's how I would handle that. Dutch Courge: Demoman Secondary +Dealing damage to enemies (550 required) will charge up your ALE meter. You can drink your ALE when your meter is full, making you DRUNK for 12 seconds. +While DRUNK, your melee weapons gain mini crits +While DRUNK, you gain 25% movement speed +While DRUNK, you gain 50% Fire resistance +While DRUNK, you gain 30% Blast resistance +While DRUNK, you gain 75% knockback resistance from both airblasts and enemy damage. -While DRUNK, you are forced to hold out your melee.

[@dravo3871]

Demoknight Battered... Hammered... But most importantly... *he flyin*

[@gibbous_silver]

i want to see a shield where swinging your melee doesnt cancel charges

[@mogoscratcher5703]

what about a shield that focuses on disruption - the charge isn't stopped by players, lasts a long time, and has good control and knockback, but doesn't deal any damage by itself (other than fall damage)?

[@real_Clone_Gordon_Freeman]

Here's an idea for a medieval medic crossbow + Shots can ubercharge team mates with a short burst of energy for 3-5ish seconds (time debatable) + To make it viable in non degroot games it could also grant critical hits at the same time as the Uber? -Missed shots that hit enemies can give them an Uber as well, but at a fraction of the charge you'd get hitting a team mate - Uses a quarter of the ubercharge meter per shot

[@killerspieler7784]

The flying scott's man + caber jumping + trimping. That seems like somthing out of Solarlights wet dream.

[@blacklight683]

The booties design makes me think that if you take any fall damage it will explode so you can trimp hit the ground and fly forward with your momentum

[@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat]

I love how the video ends withthe music that is used later for that ridiculus Pokemon animation

[@Unkle_Genny]

Honestly a pair of just crash cymbals for Demoknight would be hilarious. Just imagine turning around to see a Demoknight charging at you with a pair of cymbals, threatening to crash your head in between them like you’re a cartoon character.

[@officerpolarbear8670]

Ngl I really like your ad for Raid! I've never played it nor have I really considered playing it, but your description gives me a good idea about what it really is and I feel open to actually trying it! And yes, for course, awesome videos! I really like these new and interesting ideas and its especially exciting when you know Valve could just easily drop any one of these into the game since the Steam Workshop is awesome like that (not like it will happen anytime soon, but still) :)

[@PcPilot82]

DONT PLAY RAID ITS SHIT

[@officerpolarbear8670]

bruh moment

[@red_ruby4881]

Additional stats suggestions for the Battered Ram: + Charging speed is faster than of any other shield; - With each hit charging speed and damage are decreased; - No turning control whatsoever, you can only charge in the straight line; Would love to see this weapon in the game. The "demo-train" play style sounds like a lot of fun.

[@AllThatJaZz725]

I think it would be cool if they added the hammered head but it has a ramp up mechanic that you hold m1, when you release it does more damage and launches you opponent

[@theneonwarriors3794]

I feel like mixing the hammered head and the blast boost would be better, when your holding out the hammer you can hit the ground and go flying, BUT instead of just no shield you can’t use a secondary, period. It would be more balanced than just no shield because you just equip the sticky jumper and that would be OP

[@voneror]

Boots could work like this: Activate when you land on ground from jump or drop from certain high. Small explosion that does gunboats levels of damage to demo and Liberty Launcher damage to opponents. If you land on enemy it mini-crits. Has set amount of charges that can be replaced by ammo packs (ammo packs from players refill one charge) Downsides are that you can't do normal jumps or drop from high when you have charges and small amount of self damage.

[@f.b.iagent3971]

I had an idea for a shield which had immense charge damage and a minicrit with charge But the really fun part of the weapon was that you charge in the direction you’re looking rather than just forward, allowing you to get a small charge mobility boost looking upward...or, if you’re up in the air, you could charge down and air strike someone for an up high slam down on someone The only bad part was that there weren’t many ways to help you get up to that height without using your charge or making your weapon weaker (caber) but the flying Scotsman idea would work really well with this, you could even add self damage to the boots and make a shield charge, minicrit sword and boot explosion damage combo strong enough to kill a full health heavy

[@ShiroNyankotv]

Another weapon idea : Fathertime's Scythe Collect hearts upon walking on a corpse and store up to 9 hearts at time. Consume 3 collected hearts to activate critical hits for 3 seconds. No random critical hits Enemy Bleeds on hit -25% hp -15% movespeed -15% dmg Animation shows scythe being swung to and fro, Similarly to Reinhardt's Hammer Swing Animation (from overwatch)

[@darthplagueis13]

I've had an idea for a pike melee for demoknight (well, not really demoknight, more of a demoman-at-arms) once. Basically, you get more range and attack speed, but at the same time your attack is a stab instead of a swing, so you can only hit targets that are in a straight line infront of you. Also, you move a lot slower with it. You get additional benefits if you are using the weapon when standing still. Whilst you are standing still you get damage and knockback resistance and, more importantly, you get +20% extra damage against any moving enemy and you get guaranteed crits against airborne targets and charging demoknights. The weapon also has a slow weapon swap speed (so you can't just knock a player into the air with your explosives and then impale them on the pike) and shields don't recharge whilst it is deployed. This is a weapon meant to let you hold the line but it won't let you run around like a maniac.

[@oceanman7934]

toofty: Ok so we need some demoknight weapons also toofty: you cannot use a sheild

[@testaccount4830]

So I had an idea for soldier, the commander's cannon: It'd be a primary that functions very differently from the other rocket launchers. Instead of shooting rockets it shoots cannon balls that instead of exploding they plow through the enemies, being a projectile that can hit multiple players it'd have slight damage drop-off between targets and (like the huntsman's bow & arrows and ordinary rocket launchers) would use bounding boxes as the source of hit detection. The downsides? It being a cannon would have a slow firing speed and as stated earlier wouldn't explode, as well as potentially slowing the soldier down in exchange for a bit of extra health maybe.

[@timothygooding9544]

6:50 alternate idea: upon activation demo automatically strafes left & right on a timer, as if drunkenly swaying. This swaying (strafing) will be faster than the default walking speed and if used right can act as a hard to use speed boost The boots (it sounds like this is a primary replacement) give a constant speed boost and health buff, so this should have a higher potential speed and maybe keep the resistances part Simple speed would be more like a simulant, but if the demo has to sway his aim it will feel and look drunken

[@judahatkins6069]

I like how the shields play with the fact that as demo, your secondary weapon is always checking for a right click no matter what weapon you have out to detonate bombs or charge, so I'd like to see other ideas for weapons or items in the secondary slot that use that mechanic.

[@tetragonn]

2:55 isnt the model from hightower map? (i guess it was in reds base)

[@limbonlegs1662]

The music in the first part is Up In My Jam by Kubbi

[@BluSteel_]

I'd probably use the battered ram a lot because it doesn't have the resistances. For the most part I avoid using weapons that give passive bonuses because I feel like I'll become to dependent on them.

[@ukaszrezler7670]

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[@derpyquagsire6678]

First one I feel like still needs some damage resistance since even the tide turner has some damage resistance and your giving up the sticky bomb launcher for it. Second one remove the can’t wear shield thing and give either a increase recharge time, reduce charge duration, or make it mini crit when it crits. Third one change the blast jump conditions to be hitting your reload key while holding your melee weapon so the blast jump doesn’t get messed up while holding a caber.

[@GiRR007]

Isnt the thing with longer charge duration the claidmors things? i feel like i would want that to be buffed more so than having another item that does basically the same thing, but I do like the not stopping after charging idea

[@wojtekpolska1013]

the flying scottsman is just a sticky jumper, but with 1 "ammo" without speed and health buff, it negates all boots bonuses, so its not even similar to them, it just does nothing except blast jump you once, which you can already do

[@mr.pringles166]

Imagine using the Wee booties, sticky jumper and the flying Scotsman

[@eljones4194]

Omg Imagine pairing the flying Scotsman and the hammer hammer and being able to mark in garden basically with it

[@goblinslayertf2]

Personal favorite is the battered ram because of the damage potential and the fact you can ram through multiple enemies also I think for the lack of resistances if you pair it with the half zatoichi it can make up for that as you just need to kill someone if you lost health while charging

[@zano7503]

Had an idea for a demoknight “sword”, lmk what you think: Name: The Shakes Spear Description: A long spear with a pointy end. Stats: +20 HP on wearer (Bringing demos max hp to 220 with the booties) On Kill: Grants 3 seconds of team buff (Crit resistance, 50% sentry resistance and 30% from all other sources) Idea behind this: Encourage demos to work with the teams a bit more with a reward for getting a kill in a team populated area.

[@NotNowNorth]

I would change the 3 seconds to something like 5 and it resets on kill. Just a small change to counter kritz meds, and random crits in general. I only say this because a kritzed up heavy, soldier or demo can honestly wipe a team if no one is pyro or more likely a pyro that can air blast correctly.

[@ananmaysahu4563]

Too op, with no downsides, and way better than the eyelander while doing what it does AND More. It would even just be equipped instead of stock because of the huge upside of health

[@zano7503]

@@ananmaysahu4563 I disagree as when you look at weapons like the eye lander, that give you bonus hp AND movement speed and the Half Zatoichi that literally gives you 100 hp back after every kill, I'd say this is a good trade off much like the battalions backup is to the soldier. With a downside of perhaps no random crits and 10% less damage, this would be more of a team orientated weapon used for tactical pushes.

[@ananmaysahu4563]

@@zano7503 well yes, i meant it had no downsides, which you JUST introduced.

[@genuineangusbeef8697]

For the battering ram, it'd be cool if you only got resistances while charging. For the Boots, I think it'd be cool if they were procced via fall damage. So if you jumped from high and landed, you'd get a one type launch from the Boots that you could restore at supply, and you'd get launched proportional to the fall damage you took.

[@numbertumbers529]

Just imagine a Demoman with Hammered Head and Flying Scotsman, rocketing into the frontline at ludicrous speeds, taking out everyone who attempted to push the cart in 2 fatal swings.

[@kooldude_6201]

the hammered head might be amazing for the sole reason that your teammates won't soak up all of your hits for once

[@TheBiggestHistoryNerd]

I feel like for the Hammered Head, itd be better to take out the damage bonus and slower attack speed and change it to lowered movement speed, I feel like with the way it is it's too much of a straight upgrade over stock, but the hitting multiple targets sounds so nice if anyone has had their teammates absorb their melee attacks

[@lovingryza1755]

I loved all the ideas in this video, I feel like playing with these weapons would definitely be a blast. I especially like the idea of 2 handed melee weapons, more damage but having to sacrifice you being able to use a shield.

[@The_Nailsmith]

I love the European war hammer as an idea for a double purpose weapon, left click is blunt force trauma, right click does less damage but causes bleed damage

[@sfm199]

I've always liked the idea of a spear that can be throwable, and then either recharged or picked up again. I'm not sure what any other stats would be, but it would be an interesting range option for demoknight. I also like the idea of a shield that takes away health for some crazy advantage. A shield that gives you a lower health pool just feels so at home in tf2 imo

[@Dhemoss]

You couldn't use the Dutch courage because the 2nd slot (shields 'n stickies) already use the right click, but you could make the 3rd mouse button (special attack/action) the activator

[@aquamarinerose5405]

My issue with the Hammered Head is that it really should just be what the Caber does, one single large swing that can basically murder any poor sap that stands in it's way. Edit: Also the reason that caber was nerfed into the ground in the first place was because of the fact that Competitive players could combine it with sticky jumping to get a free medic pick at the start of the round, and the hammered head basically does the same time.

[@scout2]

the flying scotsman would be a great way to allow different shield use besides the tide turner, nice idea.

[@Mustacheoro]

An issue i forsed with the battered ram is that sometimes enemies are hit out of your sword range after a charge already. Adding more could result in you just never hitting your swing after a charge.

[@Kayther33]

I have an idea for the demoknight, or well, half demoknight in my idea WInged Sword (Imagen orstein's spear from DS1 but with more blade and less handle) +50% more range that the stuck melee weapon +Makes critics when you fall from a medium distance (like market gardener) -You CANT use the charge of the shield (if you have one) -you have to charge the attack to throw it instead of dealing it like normal -Deploy this weapon 75% slower

[@LR_Jenkins]

as a demoknight main, this sounds interesting to me: new shield: Negatives: only grants minicrits shorter charge duration no slam damage Positives: higher base movement speed can hold 2 charges instead of only 1.

[@stevelucky7579]

I like the idea of the buff banner for the demo.

[@MinichaudBerkimilov]

Last bit is so funny for me as i’m using snare + kick sound on hit and crash sound on kills.

[@gibbous_silver]

Battered ram + claidhemor

[@lexi3312]

So those boots are a primary slot sticky jumper activated by your melee? Absolutely yes that can work with so many builds!

[@StormTeeVee]

His raid shadow legends ad actually sounded like he was talking instead of mindlessly reading a script like a robot

[@SpktraSK]

As a Demo knight main I find the ideas to be. Well, more or less underpowered 1 - the shield sounds fun but a melee based class needs some sort of resistance and mobility. So taking that away for basically a discount demo train would be a bit useless. Like it sounds fun and it would work well with the katana since it heals you but at the same time. Going through players also means you might not be able to end a charge when you exactly want to. I think a better change would be to add a resistance and deal increased knock back but with additional damage dealt to the target shall they hit a wall. That way you can close the distance with some resistance and also one shot light classes without the melee for more reliability. No need for penetratiny players as you won't need it much 2 - okay. This is basically the Scott's man skullcutter like you said. But actually worse. Not having a shield is an awful idea for a demo knight. And having the downsides of swords and the downsides you suggested for a normal stock demo is even worse. Unless it one shots light classes this is basically the skullcutter just to thr extreme in a negative way. And will be frustrating to use 3 - this one imo is the only one I liked. Having added mobility in exchange for tankiness sounds amazing honestly. Would pair well with the tide turner and claidamor too Thanks for reading my review. Models were amazing tho

[@imslamming]

as a demoknight, who needs added vertical mobility when i can trimp at 20003km/h across the map

[@Magnamhut]

The fact that the hammered head doesn't allow a shield means that sticky jumping demo-hammer? Will be yet another subclass

[@danielpalmer7710]

I have an idea for spy you could have a Sapper which doesn't alert the engineer but all it does is deactivated temporarily for five seconds but whatever he put it on can take more damage so it's not too overpowered

[@printedpanncakes]

I've always liked using base jumper with the claidheamh mor and tide turner for mid-air charges, so I was thinking maybe more speed or maybe longer charge while mid-air charging for the flying scotsman?

[@RabidRango]

i think a cool sword idea would be to have the sword be held sideways when charging (1 click: right)(double click: left) upon charge, charge regen would be 50% and you could only kill when charging being able to cut through multiple people in one charge you can not do damage if they are on the wrong side in front of you or your not charging

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

The "flying scotsman" adds a brand new meaning to "demotrain"

[@MykeGG]

4:56 Solarlight : *even more heavy breathing*