[TF2] A Loyal Ally called The Shotgun (ft. After Breakfast)

[@SquimJim]

Woah!! How were you able to collab with such a super rad ultra-cooldude? He sure seems cool. Whoever he is. Thanks for having me on though. Let's do it again sometime!

[@RocketManFran]

Thanks for taking the time out of your "super important business meeting" just to talk about the shotgun :)

[@wachaczi6630]

Hello Before Dinner with FatJohn

[@Wrench55154]

Fran, you lucky son of a shotgun.

[@SquibGourmand]

hi squim, i’m your biggest fan

[@SquimJim]

@@SquibGourmand I know you are.

[@zyq9388]

“So maybe it’s not the best idea to run into battle only using the shotgun” Fatscout: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that

[@lastdaberandfriends2306]

Normal scout with the force-of-nature which is a type of shotgun: I shall join you in running in with shotgun ready to kill some enemies

[@TheManglerMaster]

The main reason shotguns on heavy are so unfathomably good is that shotguns don't consist entirely around aim like most weapons, but rather _positioning_ . Think of It like this: Imagine an AR user which takes 2 seconds to kill enemies meets a Shotty user which two-shots at close range and three-shots at mid range. You'd think to yourself _"The shotty user should win on closed spaces/corners and hallways, and the AR user should win on big, free spaces"_ , but why exactly? There are _two_ key factors to this: *Counting* and *Chasing* . *Counting* , what i like to call It, is the "You miss, you die" thing that comes up so often when It comes to shotguns and sniper rifles, but on Autos, though, that's outta the picture. See, on big spaces, the AR user has ton of room to dodge, and so does the Shotty user from them, HOWEVER, every single Shotty blast can change the fight entirely and take a massive chunk of HP, while the AR user can just spray a mag, with each miss being no more than a nuisance. On *CLOSED* spaces, however, there is no room for either to properly dodge, leaving both much more vulnerable, while missing with the shotgun is just a laughable skill issue at that point, and the AR user dies since they have almost twice the kill time. *Chasing* , what i like to call It, is how close the Shotty user can get to the Assault Rifler without dying. It's exactly why Scouting was (and still to this day) so often associated with nose-kissing range weapons throughout a big chunk of First-Person Gaming history. While the Scout has little defense tools in his Unlocks, he's *_SPEEDY_* , and while the *_-FATASS-_* Heavy is so slow, It takes an entire army (or fully-charged headshot/backstab) to take him down quickly. And what unites most, if not *_ALL_* TF2 Shotty users altogether is the sheer amount of sharp corners in most maps.

[@HunterStiles651]

@@TheManglerMaster TFW you write 150 words to make a literal joke subclass sound better than it actually is. Next you'll be making a video essay on why Dan Hibiki is SSSS Tier in Street Fighter.

[@TheManglerMaster]

@@HunterStiles651 you will never even glimpse over the glory of the pearly gates

[@HunterStiles651]

@@TheManglerMaster Huh? Why are you telling me to go to hell in the most verbose way possible?

[@HintShot]

Dude this is insane. The effort you put into your stuff never ceases to amaze me. Excellent video, and mad props for the hard work!

[@mikaaa151]

Hi spy main

[@HybridHenderson]

Ah, Hintshot! Glad to see you here.

[@barbarosbozkurt758]

My Man HintShot is here

[@Sniper_TF2_REAL]

Yoooo it’s hintshot

[@mingshi7689]

It seems like I’m not the only one

[@br4ss_crusader973]

A medic wet dream: Being able to use a shotgun like in TFC

[@mrmelon4534]

I AM ZE UBERMENSCH!!!

[@corvanj8766]

*_[player 1000: let's give med a shot gun!_* [Kick player 1000?] 5000 [yes] [no]

[@2BrosOfficialGaming]

im currently formulating stats for that called the “Alternative Medicine” I’ll comment that here once I’m done.

[@2BrosOfficialGaming]

The Alternative Medicine is fully (by fully I mean the stats could be changed a bit maybe) completed and here’s the stats: The Alternative Medicine Medic Secondary Level 1-100 Advanced Shotgun (+)Deal damage and get kills to fill the Übermensch meter. (+)Alt-fire once meter is full to apply a Quick-Fix Übercharge to yourself for 4 seconds. (+)Each kill is also tracked in the “Procedures” counter (in the same spot as the “Heads” counter when using the Eyelander) and can be used up with special fire (default is the middle mouse button/M3) to fire an arcing ball of Medigun beam energy (or whatever the stuff that comes out of the Medigun is called) that heals teammates it hits (comes out of a grenade launcher-like attachment on the bottom). (+)Entire clip reloads at once (debatable) (-)50% less clip size (3 in a clip; same as the Frontier Justice)

[@gottagofastfaster]

If medic mains wants to use shotgun why don't play TFC? I might guess it's hard medic mains to play.

[@IInferno]

The sheer amount of effort that went into the lip-syncing alone is astounding. Fantastic job Fran!

[@railroadisolationist5452]

Isnt that automated?

[@jmvr]

@@railroadisolationist5452 I tried the automated lip-syncing SFM offers, and even though it was pretty neat, it wasn't quite as good as I expected. It needed a good bit of tweaking to get right.

[@StormTrooperEX]

I love youtube collabs it makes me sad that they dont happen more often

[@bow-89]

I fucking hate them.

[@barbarosbozkurt758]

Fun Fact Fran is out of Rockets when he is on the Air and you can see the rocket launcher (In the intro)

[@2BrosOfficialGaming]

i think that happens all the time no matter how many in the clip

[@barbarosbozkurt758]

@@2BrosOfficialGaming Yeah this is about all of the intros

[@bobbyferg9173]

Holy shit, right when After Breakfast picked up the phone I got a phone call

[@yazidefirenze]

"Reliable, effective and useful. 6 in the clip, 32 in the reserve." - The Shotgun.

[@HarunX57zt]

He doesn't play with toys guys! Source: bro trust me

[@corvanj8766]

They are action collectables. Not "toys" -comic book guy

[@lonkzelda7871]

@@corvanj8766 Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[@NewGameMinus]

It's clear you put your absolute most into this! Absolutely fantastic.

[@barbarosbozkurt758]

After Breakfast guy should be named The BrunchMann!!!

[@carlsjolund2379]

“The pistol is good for finishing but should not be your go-to weapo-” One Russian Boy: *Single-handedly started the pistol renaissance*

[@Risemonger]

Fantastic work Fran, your editing skills amaze me and I'm just blown away with the effort you put in to the sfm animations.

[@mr.weaponsmann1790]

3:29 heavy will remember that

[@lambdrey]

But engineer is a capitalist... Not communist.

[@Xx_SuperPenis_xX]

@@lambdrey what does that have to do with anything

[@lambdrey]

@@Xx_SuperPenis_xX I don't know anymore... Maybe it was meant to be a joke?

[@Xx_SuperPenis_xX]

@@lambdrey I still don't get it tho

[@Xx_SuperPenis_xX]

@@lambdrey I figured it was but I didn't get it

[@2BrosOfficialGaming]

“Oh, no! I am so French!” -the sneaky baguette from squad tower: the sequel

[@SliverSaurus]

After Breakfast exudes so much Chad energy that even with a shotgun to his face, the man holding the shotgun ends up backing down

[@Woodland_Adventures]

"I'm at a super important business meeting" "I thought you said you were playing TF2" Who says they have to be mutually exclusive. Imagine a world where a work meeting means hopping on discord and playing video games with your coworkers and bosses like you were hanging with the boys. Man I'd love that.

[@1mariomaniac]

11:27 *"Ze healing is not as revarding as ze hurting!"*

[@morganowings476]

1:23 Seeing Soldier's eyes right here is currently my favorite part of the entire video

[@SoulOfPower]

This is amazing Fran! Your comedic timing and wonderful editing makes this a wonderful watch even through a rewatch! (Also if medic can get a shotgun I would be most pleased :) )

[@jimbo491]

heavy's shotguns are actually decent. Being able to shoot without having to rev up or lower your movement speed is amazing. The shotgun can actually out-damage the minigun initially because it doesn't have to rev up.

[@DaQuestioningCrustacean]

I agree and not only that but the ability to conceal your location while providing that needed burst damage around corners since smart enemies know the minigun lacks that is a godsend it's not a bad choice at all and it really does shine as a secondary for finishing off targets I've always seen the shotgun as a secondary for heavy where you use it while pushing and killing people in your way and then using your minigun to clean up house when you need to defend an area or get an area secured it's beautiful and it's a different thought process to most but hey I guess most people just prefer to be a healing man although shotguns shouldn't go overlooked unless you are a panic attack because the spread makes it's burst unreliable past the minigun's range

[@jamesverner9132]

Going from turret mode heavy to fat scout and charging the enemy point ALWAYS scared my enemies they never see it coming and don't know how to avoid blowing themselves up with self damage or remember to stay on the point to prevent capture.

[@Tom-vx7qh]

The shotgun is my favorite weapon in the game. It's part of the reason Engineer is my favorite class. It gives my favorite weapon to a support role, and since my other favorite class is medic, I think it's pretty obvious that I like playing support

[@CAMSLAYER13]

Theres something about wrangling all your team mates into some sort passable fighting force that just can't be beat

[@NanaKyoto]

If by chance The Medic was given a shotgun as an alternative to his Syringe Guns, then it would give a whole new meaning to the Battle Medic playstyle. Personally, I think The Medic could have a Pistol, just with some tweaks exclusive to Medic.

[@misterredspidy2140]

11:07, the design is so fascinating that the cartridges are coming out of the gun from the right even if the output is on the left. 😵‍💫 Exellent video by the way.^^

[@mr.weaponsmann1790]

rocketmanfran uploaded a new video! gotta let the kids in the basement see this

[@freddiefroggerr]

Hold up-

[@bucketofchicken8325]

Let them go heavy

[@9mmdose]

9:14 I've been using stock Heavy for quite a while, and i found the shotgun to be reliable If you fight against Demomans, Soldiers and even scouts! And that's the cause of heavy being so slow with his minigun active, which by the way, has a slow activation speed, there's multiple situations where i would be a dead Man, wouldt It be for the shotgun. But then again, the edibles still outshines the shotguns because of their support like rolê value.

[@bazingamycheeks]

I would argue that shotgun on heavy would be useful is using either the brass beast (slow) or huo long heater (ammo consumption)

[@bazingamycheeks]

also, for engi you had the family business and reserve shooter lol

[@boronblade]

Another amazing video, keep up the good work!

[@OlaftheGreat]

Rocketman is one of the greatest songs ever written. Also shotguns kick ass Secondary song based edit: Rosalina in the Observatory always brings a tear to my eyes

[@Priincipal-pe9mp]

The Shotgun is not bad for the Heavy, it has it's uses: More mobility You don't have to rev it up Is useful with the Brass Beast due to the slow movement and slow rev up Useful with the Huo-Long Heater when you want to save ammo It can be used when flanking or when you're trying to be silent

[@Ronnanben]

I should try using the shotgun more so thanks for telling some advice about it

[@badideagenerator2315]

Giving medic shotguns could have interesting results. On the one hand, medic would be able to defend himself better than ever before, which could upset the balance of the game. On the other hand, medic already has the Crusader's Crossbow, which is arguably better than the shotgun due to it giving him the ability to rapidly heal teammates from well outside the range of his medigun and deal substantial damage at range. It would definitely boost the Medic's playercount by making him more fun to use in a casual setting. It might also be interesting if his syringe guns were turned into shotguns.

[@zesnowpea6347]

battle medic gaming

[@badideagenerator2315]

@@zesnowpea6347 battle medic gaming

[@Dog-999i]

I had an idea that could make the Shotguns better for Heavy. Just add this stat: On kill with Shotgun: +10% Faster minigun rev speed. It could go up to 30% faster, but you need 3 shotgun kills. If that's too OP just make it increase by +5% instead.

[@FBombFitzgerald]

That intro was brilliant; I legit laughed. Great work as always!

[@redstonewarrior0152]

You forgot to mention that the shotgun is also really good on heavy when moving around. Sometimes it is better to pump some leqd into an immediate threat rather than trying to rev up your minigun. This isn't so much a problem with the tomislav due to its near instant rev up but is an absolute godsend on the brass beast.

[@lillappy2178]

Really cool video, very nice job on the editing a sfm bits. Also, 11:00 God just imagining spy with the shotgun is terrifying, that would be incredibly OP, guess it goes to show just how good the shotgun is, lol.

[@MainDotLua]

That was a really great video! ...though the SFM stuff must've taken AGES.

[@RocketManFran]

It did -_-

[@bender2649]

Damn, your editing skills are improving a notch :o Also some extra notes with the shotgun soldier: In a less common scenario regarding the soldier with the shotgun vs soldier with the gunboats: the shotgun gives ya a distinct advantage over the other soldier who's using the gunboats provided if he doesn't get the bomb on ya beforehand. Gunboats soldiers have to use 1 or 2 rockets to ambush someone then the other 2 rockets to finish you off and rocket jump away to the moon, against shotgun soldiers, they have no other option than to reload-fire spam and hope for the best, strife around you or run away entirely. More often than enough, it gives the finishing blow to almost any gunboat soldiers and wins the fight in almost every situation possible. It's a shame that the shotgun for the soldier is critically underused due to other secondary weapons in his arsenal but hey, love it or hate it, it's great regardless.

[@theunusualmullet]

Great job Fran, that's awesome you got to make a video with SquimJim

[@dunkass9942]

This was a really great video, keep your editing like that and i wish you upload more like this.

[@RocketManFran]

sadly editing like this takes a long time, but I'll keep doing it cuz I know it make y'all happy :)

[@dddjason5208]

If medic could use the shotgun as a primary instead of the syringe gun it would dramatically improve his self-defence and make a valid alternative to the crossbow (which is the only good medic primary right now) If demoman could use the shotgun it would make a big difference depending on if its a primary or a secondary

[@sweetmamaschili4051]

You are certainly going to be part of the next generation of TF2 KZbinrs. Your work is of the highest quality I’ve seen from someone so “small” and the consistency is something to die for. Can’t wait to see what you do in the future.

[@gmanplaysgames256]

"an actual TF2 shotgun prop". just... buy an ACTUAL shotgun lol

[@missingindy]

I found you through HintShot and I’m loving this already, probably because I also love After Breakfast

[@Mauriciogarciamendezlolpucce]

Very funny and informative video frann :). I too love the stock shotgun.

[@XD-vh4xr]

your videos are very well done, good work :)

[@YoYo-kh4tl]

Just found your channel again and now I don’t regret a damn thing! Great video too!

[@sltrskid]

"oh no i am so french" -blu spy tf2's last words before losing his life to the red heavy

[@rainnfoxer261]

THE ROCKET MANN HAS UPLOADED AGAIN sick video also Fran

[@g0_0fster]

Excellent sfm work my friend, I'm impressed

[@voicehead]

that mario goomba cutaway was pretty funny, ill give you that, Mr. Francisco

[@evangelos4346]

One thing to note about Soldier is that the escape plan can be a sort of substitute for the gunboats, since after you lose health from rocket jumps you can use the speed boost to quickly get to a health pack to replenish. Although the gunboats do a superior job at this, it does make room for a shotgun.

[@tf2349]

Wow nice colab! It was a great video, but i disagree with the heavy shotgun part. Brass beast+shotgun on payload offense is underratted. It's actually super powerfull if used well. Just think about it! If you have a power class in your way, boom brass beast. Scout or spy comes around, boom shotgun. And you don't have to worry about ammo or health because of the cart and if you have an engineer in your team, better yet a medic, you will be unstopable. This is how I got my first god like as well. Other than that I think the video was good! And I hope you two will colab again! And you two explained the shotgun great!

[@redjaypictures4528]

Its always nice to pull this thing out whenever your beggars runs dry in the middle of your robot murdering spree, firing a shotgun into a huge crowd of metal mercenaries knowing its borderline impossible for you to miss feels GREAT

[@Shoxic666]

The shottie on Heavy is god for going to the front without being harassed too bad.

[@paulper]

This is a really impressive vid!

[@lazyhatman]

Like the animation

[@cameronmills4508]

Your big breakthrough is on its way. You bloody deserve it

[@shadrawdragon6560]

this was amazing! so much effort put in and it really shows :3

[@mrkaiguy6447]

That is some clean sfm work.

[@ChiefSuperIntendedBacon]

RocketManFran you forgot about soldiers shotgun taunt its no doubt the most respectfull taunt in the game.

[@squarejohnny_]

This video is another masterpiece made by you great job

[@maurovalente4901]

Very underrated, love the effort that went into this!

[@Waylon128]

Super interesting video dude, awesome Collab

[@champagnesupernova1839]

adding the shotgun as an unlockable primary for medic? YES PLEASE

[@lordtachanka7229]

This is my boomstick

[@rfi400]

i love the intro, keep up the good work

[@thegreatqtip4516]

I think the best thing about shotgun on heavy is for when enemies catch you while you're not revved up. Even then, I much prefer food, in part because I generally use the tomislav, but if you're using the natascha or the brass beast and you're tired of scouts showing up at the worst possible moments, sure, go for a shotgun. The panic attack in particular for the practically instant weapon swapping.

[@fododeldude5450]

Videos like these bring back hope for TF2!

[@robo9031]

Gonna add a tip for shotgun pyros: There are items out there that are built to fight against your afterburn, such as the Darwin's Danger Shield and the Spy-Cicle, or even your own primary option, the Degreaser. In those instances, a shotgun is the best thing you could use since you slug enemies with heavy burst damage where you can't do that with a flare gun.

[@redactedscripts7411]

the level of effort you put in is insane i dont know how im just finding out about your channel but you've earned a subscriber keep up the good work :)

[@spud7234]

When a 38k sub sfm has better lip sync than the meet the team videos "After 9 years in development"

[@JuneStudios119]

Great video! Love the collab with after breakfast! 👍

[@corvanj8766]

(Holds stock rocket launcher) shhh your the real ol reliable

[@TomatoGatcha]

Yo dude, great vid! Also fantastic work on the lip syncing, that stuffs always so tedious but it looks great along with the rest of the animation!

[@RocketManFran]

Thanks Gatcha! :D

[@TomatoGatcha]

@@RocketManFran no worries man!

[@SethAbercromby]

I do agree Sandwich is the better secondary, the shotgun does have its place in a heavy loadout. While the minigun has amazing DPS, it can be difficult to secure a kill in a clutch moment because of the spin up and that most of the classes that counter heavy deal a lot of damage at once. Two solid meatshots with a shotgun can very quickly end a battle that you would not have out sustained with the minigun alone. You can also pair it with the Tomislav as the faster spin-down means that you can switch between the two faster.

[@steinful]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@kiesarisunny13]

The animation is way to good holy shit

[@mentalchillnessss]

glad to be able to watch it!

[@memorableman3709]

Good work man, you gotta keep doing stuff like this

[@RocketManFran]

Hope to ;)

[@crocket7659]

Ah yes my two favorite underrated youtubers in a video is nice

[@The_Jho]

A primary for heavy and engineer, duel wielding shotguns, the ups and downs are what you expect with engineer, but for heavy, by right clicking he can shoot both at once

[@MLGProMaster-tu9tz]

Hey babe, wake up. Rocketman Fran uploaded and we're late.

[@ScottSanchoAbandoned]

Imagine rocket jump with the shotgun.

[@yuriusutr7284]

I've been appreciating the shotgun recently now that I'm trying to learn how to aim and play scout/battle engie. Man, the frontier justice is mwa

[@jacobbarnett2656]

Wow your production quality has skyrocketed! Love seeing content from you, keep it up!

[@youraveragecommentor1212]

I’ve noticed the beggers bazooka and shot gun are great together

[@dmc112]

i call shotgun

[@ForwardStory]

This video is cool but I’m sort of confused. It didn’t really ask any questions, it didn’t provide any answers, and it wasn’t really specific if it was supposed to be a guide. Was it a tribute? The video was well made for what it was but I’m trying to wrap my head around what it was supposed to be.

[@karlbischof2807]

its supposed to be a general description of the weapon and its use

[@bluven508blaze3]

This is why I can't put down the shotgun, it's too good of a weapon to hold, and as a soldier main myself I can't stop using it

[@ken-tr9pd]

*Shows Reserve Shooter and Family Buisness for engineer shotguns*

[@missingindy]

one of my favorite uses of the shotgun is essentially trolldier, but instead of a market gardener its the shotgun

[@piorcholnmurgatsh9488]

Acktchoolly, the best way to output damage as pyro is to use the flamethrower afterburn in conjunction with the shotgun, the flamethrower alone deals crap damage. Also two shotgun shots deal more damage than the flare gun crit, and they're easier to hit. (Alo; why would anyone airblast a player before using a shotgun ????)

[@IMP-vi6je]

remember , spy have sniper rifle so everyone gangsta till the medic get a goddamn real gun

[@flaregamer64]

It's been about 9-ish months since I've last watched a video from you. Glad to see your video quality has only gotten better. Commenting so this hopefully gets posted in the savage place known as the KZbin Algorithm.

[@Thingamagic-z6c]

Heavy’s shotgun is so that you can attack people who ambush you while you’re unrevved.

[@jojostah]

POG ITS HERE

[@thewarriorkirby5756]

Poor berdo got called an annoying scout who jumps around like rabbits :c

[@LegionsTyphoon]

Shotgun’s my go-to secondary when playing soldier