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[@WeezyTF2]

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[@yeetman1344]

i think specifying if something is a reenactment just like a popup in the corner just so brainlets have no water in the future

[@kooz8279]

Ah yes war thunder; a place where basil doesn't exist.

[@DellConagher1]

You gave him too much attention and closure. You shouldve just made a short video clowning him.

[@frostchak2163]

Ahh yes, Weezy taking a war thunder sponsor literal days after they release yet another classified (not really this time) document 🙏 Game recognizes game

[@2goober4u]

As a war thunder vet, please don't fet addicted

[@Davtwan]

“When will WeezyTF2 admit his mistakes?” The projection from that title alone is enough to power an entire IMAX theater.

[@wilsonweiseng6485]

maybe we'll see it on an alex jones podcast

[@danaa-]

Nah, thats enough projection to power every playing of Avatar(the one with the blue people) in a cinema, ever.

[@Turtleboilol]

@@wilsonweiseng6485 *”WEEZYTF2 IS MAKING THE MVM PLAYERS GAY!”*

[@bigboyepic8598]

@@danaa- And the director's cuts.

[@danaa-]

@@bigboyepic8598 and the sequels.

[@m.i.g.2023]

MvM players who completed hundreds of same missions in this gamemode abandoned by Valve can end up in two ways: -Starting to use unconventional strategies for fun -Schizophrenia

[@lukecodz]

i like to combine the two

[@Azazel386]

I simply began making my own mvm missions if valve isn't gonna be making more of them themselves

[@thomasmurrell9832]

As a Titanfall gamer, it's terrifying how common this pattern is noticeable after seeing a community you're a part of become the latter

[@madkoala2130]

@@Azazel386 you forgot the most important thing for MVM players: Loot (90% of MvM players will not play if it does not give out loot)

[@arenexa9013]

"gamemode abandoned by valve" brother remove mode from that sentence

[@ajtcj1356]

The edit of the document after this video came out is **golden**. For all of you who don’t want to read it, basically basil timestamps all the moments in this video anything slightly bad is said about him, ignores what he can’t deny, and skips over the parts where basil is being defended. And it’s written in the third person which is hilarious. (If I made a mistake in my summary please do tell me)

[@scooby8800]

He is schizo enough to type in 3rd person un-ironically? I’ve never seen such a sad being such as basil before.

[@duncanchillake8024]

​@@scooby8800 i have, chris chan

[@fuilli]

oh my, that's absolutely great greatly stupid, of course

[@warpstarrogue3554]

How much of the video did he actually skip? My guess, around 2/3

[@GreenDemonSquid]

@@scooby8800by what I can tell this is because Basil claims to not be the only one writing the document, and if nothing else it is a group effort. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one, but it doesn’t really make things better for him, nor does the rest of his updates. Even taking the rest of his claims in the updated document at face value, the most substantial thing that Weezy would be wrong on would be… Basil not being the guy who got into a flame war with Weezy on Twitter and Discord, and accusing him of said flame war when it was really some other bad actor. Most of the other responses either deal with minor technical gripes or I would argue are misrepresentations of Weezy’s positions, intentional or otherwise. Thankfully, Basil claims to have turned over a new leaf and seems to want to put a lot of this Weezy drama behind him. If it’s out of a legitimate change of heart or a cope to deal with being humiliated on the internet, I can’t say. Either way though, I hope he’s learned something from all this and improves as a person and as a TF2 player, and that his shenanigans are truly over.

[@NachoPotato]

Weezy feels like the narrator in animal documentaries that calmly explains a zebra getting mauled to death

[@Delfite]

He's the narrator that calmly describes low-tours getting airblasted into submission

[@felixgaarder18]

And he has beef with said zebra

[@Knightgob]

Except he sounds like while watching said zebra, he knows he is next to be mauled and is just sorta waiting for it to happen

[@magnusm4]

And then talks mostly about their mating rituals. Seriously, it feels like 70% I ever see is them talking about mating. I could do a drinking game of how many times they say female and it would be more times than Jacksepticeye saying "top of the morning" in all his videos combined.

[@dankmemester3398]

Oh. Hi there nacho.

[@pyroman4554]

I have a feeling that if MVM ever dies, all of these griefers will try to defend themselves saying that they were trying to “save MVM” and most likely make a fake apology

[@memeking7273]

More than likely

[@SvenBerg-q3p]

Considering everything that has happened in MVM, I think this will happen in just a couple years.

[@arandomsystemglitch2398]

Yeah sucks that this will probably happen

[@tonkas7131]

same thing happened to a discord server was in except with politics so i was in a discord server based around a small roblox game and it started dying because the head dev moved onto other projects it was maybe around early to mid 2023 when 1 person started posting about the russo ukraine war. we all thought this was just some friendly small news coverage but then it started to get worse he started posting more about it and this was in memes channel for some damn reason, basically smothered all the memes going into that channel. and then people started to discuss about the war in memes channel and need i remind you there was a specific rule about "no politics"? me and the other memebers tried to stop them but the one who started the war posting said "oh were just keeping the server alive by posting in memes so that people can check memes" and that was the most stupid reason ive ever heard we tried talking to mods about it but it was like talking into a brick wall and its still going on to this day. damn why did i even write this rant

[@risa1467]

They already genuinely believe this. MVM's Community supported these mindsets for years, and there is no changing them. The only way they get completely stuffed is for the TF-Team to fix temporary soft-bans on successful kicks. Only the advantage of rejoining games after kicks to grief is what they have. Write emails, and make some noise after the holidays; maybe they can fix it for next year.

[@nixsidus3244]

One thing I never understood is: "You have low tour numbers so I'm griefing and/or kicking you" Gee how can I get higher tour numbers if they won't let me play the damn game?

[@ponponpatapon9670]

lol it's like how people can't get job experience because every entry-level job demands 50 thousand years of job experience

[@jaredschroeder7555]

Facts on both yalls posts.

[@nameless......................]

someone kicked me on my first tour. because i was pyro

[@meikahidenori]

​@@nameless...................... i never understood why people do that. Probably because nowadays mostly teenagers play. Keep trying you will eventually find players that are friendly to play with (I have annoyingly high ping & lag so I get kicked alot but when I do find a great sever with understanding players we get quite a few hours of great games)

[@bruzzunathtuch]

@@ponponpatapon9670 THIS!!! THANK YOU!

[@L0rdTonk]

-talks to MvM player -player is insane Shocker

[@Alice-he2zh]

-talks to TF2 player -player is insane What no real updates do to a mf

[@williamfrederickson1702]

​@@Alice-he2zh What expecting a dev to be constantly adding new content to a 16 year old game and hallucinating that the summer update didn't happen do to a mf

[@GimOA]

this is what it does when doing one thing everyday for years does to a mf

[@fartsforeyes7651]

​@@williamfrederickson1702 they said "no real updates" genius, the most the summer update added was le funny reddit seal, may as well have been a patch. People are shitty because of the heavy update never coming out

[@LightBoltDash]

​@@slvrshore5300 failed troll, try harder

[@quenquent95]

On imitative recording: I understand your point 100%. But as a viewer, and especially with the modern KZbin landscape as you pointed out, it's not always obvious what's real footage and what's recreation for the sake of video flow. A simple solution would be to have "Recreation" on a corner of the video when using recreation footage. Just for the sake of transparency.

[@mariustan9275]

Sounds like a good idea

[@WeezyTF2]

Will very likely be doing this going forward. Originally, I actually had a whole segment in this video dedicated to that argument in particular as it's one I've grappled with several times myself. Having disclaimers was actually my original intention when conceptualizing the footage, but when I started adding them onto the timeline, I realized it was both extremely ugly and immersion-breaking. I tried to turn down the opacity to make it less apparent, but it's less so a visual gripe and more-so a psychological one. The best comparison I can give to illustrate this would be any "actors, not real people" text below your average TV ad. I can't speak for everyone, but at least for me, whenever I end up reading that line, my brain starts moving towards judging the acting chops of the people involved and less-so on the product itself. I realized that me doing this would move focus away from the story I'm trying to tell and instead towards the creation process behind it, and that's why I've ultimately decided against it for the longest time. However, as of this video, everyone now knows how the sausage is made, if I don't point it out myself, y'all will start searching lol. Unless there's an adequate reason to retain the old method, this will probably be the new road I'll be taking.

[@Finppa]

@@WeezyTF2 Yeah, I'd highly recommend to put a caption "scene re-acted" or something like that, not many people have enough perception to know what's what. I'm glad you're improving.

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

⁠@@WeezyTF2To be fair For that point Recrestion of Grief footage should have some people who helped and knew what would happen

[@GrokeytheHunter]

@@WeezyTF2I would say if you don’t want it in the video for that reason, at least have it in the description. It feels more open and honest for people that aren’t on Reddit or your discord

[@lastlombaxx]

For someone named "Basil" the amount of plants he has seen in total is underwhelming

[@cutmanlight1400]

Kel

[@lazermann112]

\Ö/ Omg Kel pfp!!!!!

[@Bapate-rh9be]

Legend speaks about how he basically got a diploma in fungurology by moving through his mothers womb.

[@femboyshitposter676]

Why are you mad? That's dedication just give him a job at a factory and a tool he'll be making a fine salary and have employee of the month.

[@RealKingCRK]

FATALITY

[@PorygonToast]

MvM players will never cease to amaze me with how ridiculous they can get

[@gloob70]

I have been kicked from like 21 mvm tours, all because I have a furry pfp

[@thatredpyro6890]

​@@gloob70 mf's are so childish

[@VeilsideTofu]

@@gloob70 Clearly a huge problem that makes the game unplayable

[@gloob70]

@@thatredpyro6890 hating someone for simply enjoying a hobby is one of the most childish things you can do

[@ExecutionerArtemy]

@@gloob70 deserved

[@Nick-he6xu]

Basil really sticking it to the man by giving him a source of revenue

[@atomictomfoolery4400]

@@slvrshore5300Hi Basil 👋

[@gabrielsantosbastos5257]

True, great pfp by the way

[@femboyshitposter676]

Ehh this creator is kind of a toxic bi**h if i've seen one but basil aint better much still he does have dedication all he needs is a fine job and something to put that dedication to.

[@Satherian]

My favorite part of all this is that Basil was shown in a semi-positive (or neutral) light in the first two videos. Dude really went: "I wasn't put on a pedistal and praised like a god and so I'm mad"

[@craigkuhlman6869]

Truly sad, this leafy green.

[@paquixyz4000]

If he actually had just shut his mouth and didn't have this manbaby tantrum AND PROCEEDED TO GO WITH THE LITTLE BABY FIT, practically no one would know about these things he did.

[@MistahMex]

or in other words, "why aren't people treating me like the main character"

[@DEWILL]

In my opinion, those who believe that they're absolute justice are the ones who perfectly fits the definition of a villain.

[@S4_idno]

Big fan of your content, and I also agree.

[@noonehere6994]

*fit, sorry about the grammar correction but I agree

[@ITS_MysteR]

Sounds like the ideology of a certain German Dictator

[@judicatorhurayth1927]

True Like playing a victim while the playing the victim itself is a the bad guy

[@rker]

self righteous mofos amirite

[@majesticbbqsauce727]

Basil griefed lobbies of unsuspecting players, cause of one potential offender. Weezy slowed down and helped a lobby of new players despite being under a time crunch.

[@majesticbbqsauce727]

Ngl legit cried last video when you did that.

[@brandenblomberg3048]

"We are not the same"

[@bozotheclown1142]

Nuff said

[@project_BBG]

Basil = 🤡

[@kstanni87]

Most games really need a bot that detects it and instantly kicks the player out the match with a 10 minute time-out. Next infraction is 30 minutes and the next becomes 60. Logging in and out won't bypass it.

[@metropolitanpolice7334]

in ww2 the ratio of non-combatant deaths : combatant deaths was 3:1 basil has a higher kd of innocents than the nazis

[@I-Stole-Your-Toast700]

Gyad dayam

[@michaelhodnett431]

Welcome to Skitzo, I love you.

[@cushy_steel1905]

Ummm okay then that's really concerning 😂😂

[@AveryHyena]

The fact that his reaction is "you impersonated me in those clips" instead of "I never actually did anything I'm being accused of" speaks volumes. It's like he's being accused of murder that took place in the evening, and he responds with "no they died in the morning". Or a documentary is being made about the murder where they use a reconstruction to show you what happened, and instead of saying "I didn't do it", he says "that's not me in those clips". Like, really? That's what you take issue with? Not actually being accused of something you apparently didn't do?

[@thewolfofthestars1847]

And when it's just a reenactment of what did actually happen, I don't see how it would matter anyways??? It's like watching a Civil War documentary and coming away claiming the Civil War didn't happen because the reenactment footage is of modern people in costumes and not actual 1860s soldiers. They're not impersonators or trying to claim the reenacted clip is real??? They're just playing a part for some footage?? Does this guy go to a community production of Hamlet and yell at the actors for not really being actual Danish royalty??

[@marzipancutter8144]

I'm thinking he might want to start maybe showing a "artists rendition" disclaimer or something on screen to avoid this kinda headache in the future. It's stupid that this is apparently an issue but people are wild and luckily it's not that hard to change.

[@yourbiggestfan395]

@@thewolfofthestars1847 It does devalue it somewhat as he's admitted to dramatizing to a degree. Even a SLIGHT degree. I do care somewhat, but only enough to slightly discredit the videos. I'd never make a serious judgment based on what fucking Weezy posted. Man is a funny banana talking about someone who was entirely anon until he deciding to show himself to the wider world. He could've just changed his name and it'd be whatever, no one would know, instead he's acting crazy (Basil is acting crazy).

[@XSpamDragonX]

The dude clearly has paranoid delusions, probably legitimately mentally ill, you don't understand how that makes people think and act, especially if they are unmedicated.

[@noonehere6994]

yes and at this point, it would be a logically more sound argument to say "it is not valid evidence because the video being displayed is just a copy of the reconstruction of the events that are encoded as a binary string saved on a magnetic strip" than to argue whatever Basil is trying to push. What is he really defending, his image that is tied to the rhetorical integrity of the situation presented, or just that the footage was not ensured to be the real deal? I'm of the opinion that he is not mentally apt enough to know what is at stake to begin with

[@CollegeBallYouknow]

The “touch grass” meme unironically applies to people exactly like Basil

[@mrgodzillaraptors8632]

True

[@henrynagel7175]

Epic username

[@ripfrickingben]

it's almost worryingly on the verge of clinical how deeply delusional they can get

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

Legweak I agree

[@RandomFurry07]

Ironic that he's a herb

[@BlueTurtle2]

Basil takes “terminally online” to a whole new level. If he probably could’ve started his own company with the amount of dedication he has😂

[@bozotheclown1142]

He's the guy with no life from South Park

[@cringekid07]

​@bozotheclown1142 that guy is actually a real dude, he's literally a one-to-one recreation of him. He's the dad of a guy called "Pirate Software" and it's really funny.

[@mc-oh3kr]

bro he commented on the video an hour ago putting four different messages

[@princesscadance197]

I’ve always thought I was terminally online, until *plenty* of others have proven to me that my online hours are absolutely pathetic compared to how many thousands to tens of thousands of hours they can spend online. But Basil? May as well augment himself to become cybernetic and literally upload himself into the internet at this point.

[@Brass319]

me when being an asshole gets me recognized as an asshole:

[@Blucario90]

Yeah I'll be honest. As a low tour, I'd prefer my team to be also just low tours. It means the waves are a bit harder, but it also means we're all on the same page about our skills and can generally have a fun time strategizing on how to beat the Waves.

[@increbidel4685]

Also there isn't really a wrong way to play. If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.

[@fauxparadox]

I have 96 tours and 11/10 times I play 2 cities low tour lobbies are way more fun. High tours tend to optimize the fun out of the game, so the challenge winds up nonexistent and the demoman gets 300k damage and I just afk in spawn. Low tours make mistakes like we all do, and that means trying different strategies on the fly. It's great!

[@damsen978]

Nothing wrong with player with high tours as long as they don't cause any problems.

[@starmaker75]

Well tf2 works on "if it sounds stupid, but it works, then it not stupid".

[@Joosher56]

There is of course a balance; it’s not that fun when you don’t have a medic *or* engineer and half your teammates are lobotomites

[@DMphobia]

I gotta admit, I admire Basil's determination. But goddamn, man, he really needs a hobby or a girlfriend or something.

[@noonehere6994]

he needs to live up to his name and touch grass

[@holl7w]

That's his hobby.

[@StubbyTheGiant]

Needs to make his own dinner for once.

[@danaa-]

​@@holl7wits more of an obsession ngl

[@CapnCoconuts]

He needs to try outdoor gardening. He would live up to his name and he'd be touching grass. Granted, it's not a great time to start (it's Christmas at the time of writing) but he can always plan ahead for the next growing season. Basil is easy to grow and it's a great companion for tomatoes.

[@earlofill2580]

Basil the kinda teacher that says the whole class is in trouble if the 1 kid who did something doesn’t confess

[@Loguer]

and the whole class gets in trouble even if the 1 kid does confess

[@rimanahbvee]

Thats different, thats accountability, discipline and sense of brotherhood in a way

[@CamTheWarlock]

@@rimanahbveeyou were probably the kid who didn’t confess because you thought your classmates would stand with you. No, no we wouldn’t, don’t drag us down because you’re a coward.

[@rimanahbvee]

@@CamTheWarlock ??????????????????????????????????????????????? what the fuck are you talking about

[@artemefimov8215]

​@@rimanahbvee for a military, but school isn't military, and you can't expect everyone to perform the same, people are different and have different speeds. Someone is slower, someone is faster, and you can't punish anyone for that. If a kid does something wrong - you tell them it's wrong and explain how to do better in a calm and friendly manner.

[@TheVillager69]

Every time I think an MvM player is schizophrenic enough to get sent to the psych ward, an even bigger schizo appears minutes later.

[@omnibeta1876]

You down a schizo's HP bar only for the next phase with a new schizo spawning in

[@danaa-]

​@@omnibeta1876 imagine seeing a healthbar everytime you encounter a schizo

[@TheTr1x._.]

“METAL SCHIZO IS KILLING US!”

[@martinpachu7125]

there's always a bigger fish

[@dimsthedimwit600]

*Roar sound* "Another Schizo has awoken!"

[@cold_soup_]

15:38 this is funny because it implies a grand majority of mvm players aren't people who only play the mode to kill robots for half an hour and don't even know there's insane drama and infighting going on 24/7

[@Ceece20]

There’s probably a bunch of people like that. Hell I do that. You think I’m going to notice a cheater when I’m just there to have fun mindlessly killing bots?

[@Quinlann]

​@@Ceece20Yeah. I like to kill robots and I always notice cheaters.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@Ceece20 I mean its kind of hard to miss someone aimbotting right next to you, its that you dont care.

[@Ceece20]

@@TheSuperappelflap if their playing sniper on the rock? No I won’t. That’s literally the entire gameplay for them.

[@isenokami7810]

@@TheSuperappelflap”Right next to you” being the key phrase. You think I’m gonna notice an aimbot sniper? I hard main medic in MVM, I’m nowhere near the bot.

[@JeromeShark]

I can understand griefing the cheaters, but griefing innocent players makes you as bad as the cheaters. You basically became what you sought to destroy.

[@seronymus]

As Nietzsche said, be careful staring in an abyss...

[@thatminer7174]

Except that even the cheating is beneficial to SOMEONE this is worse imho cuz it doesnt help anyone, its just a waste of time for everyone

[@Xboxzilla]

Never call cheating beneficial. It's a shortened road to medicority and boredom.@@thatminer7174

[@Ryzard]

Worse honestly, because the cheaters have some sort of benefit in exchange for the loss of fun. Basil is only the negatives without any positives

[@passtheboof6712]

>what weezy did

[@philipgelderblom6878]

Three minutes into the video and already I can't believe someone could be that insane.. I'm so sorry that you have to deal with this.

[@vodkawhisperer3923]

its pretty funny tho. i dont think weezy cares

[@marzipancutter8144]

I mean, who'd have thought? Someone who spends their full playtime on a coop game trying to make sure everyone else on their team doesn't win is also otherwise unhinged and not mentally stable? That said it feels like Weezy had his own kind of retributional fun with this, so he's probably not letting it get to him.

[@landlockedcroat1554]

im sure he doesnt mind with the money badil's making him

[@marzipancutter8144]

@@landlockedcroat1554 I think that's a bit naive. Money is nice for security, but it doesn‘t really help with if your character is pulled into question. We’ve seen incredibly rich people fall down the mental health spiral when they got shat on publicly in recent times. Money can give you the resources to retreat to your bubble and not engage with the drama, but clearly that isn‘t the case here as he engages with it.

[@SmoreMytho]

Oh shit, you really ARE Weezy (I was the engineer mentioned by the griefer in the coal town mission towards the earlier half of the video. I can corroborate that everything he's showing on screen for that misison is true!)

[@isenokami7810]

In that case, god bless you for letting the sniper play what he wanted. I don’t really play MVM these days (for normal reasons, not the griefers), but half the fun when I did was from the randos I played with keeping things fresh with their antics. Go ahead, sniper, do what you want; your fun keeps things fun for me too.

[@zenithstudio6819]

(Griefers kill mvm) Griefers: "Who killed mvm?"

[@VERGIL...-]

It was me! Yes,i did it like this

[@michaelhodnett431]

​@@VERGIL...- *Sniper dies* *all others in shock*

[@GlitchyHypnoFlower72]

@@michaelhodnett431that’s a joke lads!

[@colingaul9579]

@GlitchyHypnoFlower72 Everyone laughs

[@VERGIL...-]

@@colingaul9579 It was yo- blurb Him / Griefers \

[@irregularassassin6380]

On the topic of recreated footage, I largely agree with Weezy. Plenty of documentaries recreate footage to give the audience an idea of what happened. However, the good documentaries include some sort of disclaimer that the footage is recreated so the audience is not left in the dark about what's genuine, and what's a recreation. Weezy is right that a recreation of Basil flying around is not really material to anything, so it doesn't matter that it's recreated ... but it is inherently slightly misleading to not disclose that until called out on it. I'm certainly not defending Basil here, his behaviour sounds absolutely insane, but it would probably be wise for Weezy to disclose what's recreated in videos going forward so the audience can better decide for themselves what to believe, without wondering what's real, and what's fake. TL;DR, I agree with Weezy's use of reconstructed footage, but I disagree that it's wholly immaterial without a disclaimer that certain shots are reconstructed. We can't read Weezy's mind, we weren't there, we can't easily tell what's real and what's not. Thus, there's room for confusion and misinformation.

[@gabespiro8902]

I think he should put out a little disclaimer in the future, not so much because it’s underhanded to use recreations, just that he goes after some really unhinged people who pick at any small flaw, real or not, and the disclaimer would help to defuse that argument

[@needlebodkin7693]

yeah I'm in agreement on this, a little "recreation" tag over that kind of footage would be really nice

[@BetterOnichThanSorry]

12:48 "I barely tried to hide it." Weezy admits he was, in fact, trying to hide that he was using reenacted footage. I'm not siding with either of them, but Weezy was wrong for misleading his viewers. It's clear why Basil lead with that point. Even if he recreated it genuinely, the fact he tried to hide it is wrong, tantamount to lying to his audience.

[@morrigan2433]

​@@BetterOnichThanSorry you have to remember, the "try to hide it" likely means "making it look like basil" so the youtube even makes sense lol

[@irregularassassin6380]

@@BetterOnichThanSorryYep, that's exactly my point put much more succinctly, thank you. Weezy isn't a documentarian, he probably never studied the ethics of media, so I think we can give him a pass for the past. However, this is a a material lesson in what can happen when you don't disclose the whole truth while making a documentary, or anything documentary adjacent. A valuable lesson for everyone making media of any kind. I hope Weezy learns from his mistakes, and improves in the future.

[@MegaKH2fan]

This is unironically one of the best drama response videos on KZbin. Takes accountability of your past mistakes that was brought up, gives the accuser every benefit of the doubt despite their insane claims and actually defends them in slight ways to make their character consistent for the facts to make proper sense. It's actually impressive something like this is from MVM griefers refusing to accept they're not the main characters.

[@peachykeen777]

@@slvrshore5300 griefers should be made fun of lol i do not feel bad at all

[@TheHumanPerson9753]

@@peachykeen777well doing that will give them attention which they might want to

[@peachykeen777]

@@TheHumanPerson9753 it might not be productive because yeah maybe they want attention, but it's completely fair to ridicule them for it if you want

[@TheHumanPerson9753]

@@peachykeen777 this is also true

[@StarfurySP]

I've dealt with one of those vigilante/troll MVM players before. I was under the impression that it was just a freak random occurrence. They were older tacobot members (probably put me on their list from ages ago I don't know), was around 2018-2020. And the whole reason why this even happened, is because a demo on our team was using a normal sticky launcher, which yeah sure people like the Scottish Resistance is more optimal, but this demo was absolutely SLAYING the robots. He was so good he was outmatching everyone. But because he was using normal sticky launcher they basically deadlocked the lobby for at least 2 hours until he left. It was maybe a stupid decision on my part but we decided we were going to stay no matter how long it took. They eventually gave up, poor losers. Probably the most cult like, toxic gaming experience I ever had. Sad to see it's still around, and now with the whole bot/cheating angle too.

[@tiorast6802]

Imagine theses people tag you as ape yet, their attitude is around one or probably a 9 year old kid

[@kabooki22]

What an awful thing to do. This is why I will never trust one of these MvM groups, they're usually just salty about everything

[@aandyherr817]

This taco thing I can vaguely remember, again, I said before, has pedophilia issues and CP issues (not capture point either) The fact I can barely remember this, and the first thing that comes to mind is “ that community has a history of pedophilia “ is bad. No one should immediately remember your community being around CP and pedos. Hilarious. Glad I don’t ever see them or barley hear of them. Get blocked and move on, or go to servers that ban clowns like this and follow up actual, legal, law enforcement assistance when dealing with people who promote, safeguard and help LITERAL CP and Pedophilia. God, how did we ever get to a weird taco group supporting MVM attacks and griefing and child exploitation.

[@aandyherr817]

@@kabooki22again, a MVM, child exploitation, TF2 steam group that goes around harassing people, throwing games and most importantly harassing and exploiting children on a game. Taco something, all I remember of it, and all those unpleasant memories come rushing back. Jesus lol if I were them I’d disband that shitshow. If I knew where the group was or if the memebers had a group again I’d report it via steam report, disgusting people with a literal heroin like addiction to MVM and children. Very strange stuff, the reason why I quit certain games and communities actually.

[@michaelhodnett431]

They want to be a cult leader

[@nicomom9534]

I imagine the reason that the reason basil thinks you would jump through all these hoops to make you look bad is because he assumes you're as insane and vengeful as he is lol

[@zenthedying91]

that… kinda make sense in its own messed up way.

[@aandyherr817]

Bro, that group he was with has some serious mental issues and child exploitation accusations, and mentally ill people tend to abuse kids anyways so there’s that. Serious issues, serious accusations and serious proof. Taco whatever, i remember that name and group and all the memories of some weirdos exploiting kids come back. If I were them, I’d bury this and never speak of it again and change all my usernames 😂

[@GooberThe_Great]

As a relatively new mvm player, all these people have proven is that the only thing more toxic than high tours is Chernobyl in 1986.

[@imjustapotatoleavemealone]

And you come to that conclusion based on less than 10 high tours sum? We are doomed.

[@thecountercounter9127]

and even THATS debatable.

[@ChillyUltraKill]

I’ve had a personal experience with uhh… bill murray? Idk the most toxic guy(formerly…maybe) in mvm. He’s just as toxic as you think. I WAS PLAYING PYRO TOO! so yeah, they are what they seem and they don’t really like people unless they do certain things.

[@ChillyUltraKill]

Good news though! I have met a very nice and helpful high tour. His name was IF, I think.

[@bunnythehutt2148]

@@imjustapotatoleavemealonegood job proving his point lol.

[@LemarSullivan821]

the most down to earth, reasonable TF2 player in all of the game

[@mercenarygundam1487]

I legit can't tell if you are being ironic or not.

[@basic6735]

@@mercenarygundam1487 The joke is the tf2 community is so toxic and unhinged that basil is the least toxic player

[@GimOA]

is it down to earth or 6ft under the earth?

[@mercenarygundam1487]

@@basic6735 So he's being Ironic then

[@basic6735]

@@mercenarygundam1487 Think so

[@Alabenson]

I've quasi run into Basil a few times in the wild, but every time he always bails on the group immediately upon loading in, presumably because the team isn't entirely composed of people with 100+ tours.

[@Spartan_Tanner]

And because one or more members of the team haven't read the entirety of the several hours long MVM Meta Guide

[@theelusivepootisberd7471]

I guess you should call him "bailsil"

[@acuteavocado1962]

as a pessimist im gonna go ahead and say he didnt notice anyone in the lobby he could "justify" griefing so he left to find one where he could

[@XSpamDragonX]

^this@@acuteavocado1962 the dude probably spends hours every day just trying to find cheaters to grief. He's almost certainly very mentally ill.

[@awesomeguy9513]

Can we give basil the jester of hypocrisy in MvM? He claims to stop pizzabot yet causes the same if not more trouble the moment his ego gets slightly offended. Claims to stop griefing cheaters yet griefs servers and whines on social media every other hour

[@azizabdul8914]

i thought at first Basil would be just another chaotic neutral/lawful evil knight templar with skewered principles, but turns out he's the "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself as a villain" guy in the making.

[@ssbmbrim4071]

9:22 Actually didn't think this was a double. I thought it was footage of him standing there typing in chat while you looked at him.

[@mariustan9275]

Yeah same here. I never realized that. Someone already said this but in the future Weezy should put a "recreation" tag in the corner to make it less confusing for people like us. And also make it so Basil can't say that Weezy has been using body doubles to fake accusations, because he admits to making some stuff to make it easier to read.

[@SpiritedSpy]

@@mariustan9275 yeah i agree with everything he has to say in the video but i actually do disagree with using recreated footage, unless its explicitly told to the viewer that thats what they are looking at. even if its 1-1 the exact same things basil did.

[@davyjones3105]

Oh goodie, another video about mvm toxicity.

[@Ninjasaucetoothbrush]

It's a never ending source of content

[@KTETO22]

What else is new?

[@zombiegordonf9320]

Video candy!

[@Samiska19]

Avarege friday

[@davyjones3105]

@@Samiska19 wow I genuinely forgot it was Friday.

[@Eclipse-SSC]

I don't support cheating, I just don't care in MvM specifically because it doesn't change the outcome of the game at all. Tacobot hates and hunts me because one of them joined, immediately voted to restart from the last wave because "There is a cheater" and if we don't reset the mission he'll get us all on the "Cheater supporter" list, we ended up kicking the tacobot for griefing and impeding the mission EVEN AFTER WE HAD KICKED THE CHEATER. Tacobots are just toxic children, simply kick them on sight, they're WORSE than the cheaters. I have seen many, MANY tacobots have absolute meltdowns or just instantly leave due to my existence on the server alone. Edit: Tacobots will also grief and kick you if you use weapons they don't like and/or consider "cheating", such as the Gas Passer. Also, I will happily kick a cheater, I just will not go out of my way to find out if someone is cheating as sniper in the back of the map or not because I'm usually busy playing the game.

[@brimp4989]

I mean yeah you could be put on the kick list for simply being a low tour and getting a pan drop because “you don’t deserve it”

[@gamingevolvedkg30]

Who or what tacobots? I been in the tf2 for a while now but never seems to explore other communities.

[@brimp4989]

@@gamingevolvedkg30 basically people who gatekeep the glorified gambling mode called MVM

[@bindstf2]

@WeezyTF2 10:55 you can probably avoid this issue by recording demos with p-rec. Install it, type prec_mode_3 into console, and every game you play will be recorded to be played back using TF2's demo system. Extremely useful as shadowplay automatically saves the time and date of each saved clip, and demos are named based on the time they started as well. Saves text chat, voice chat, everything.

[@punisheranimations6807]

Very useful

[@VERGIL...-]

What about disc space issues?

[@dontdoitdan7965]

Ok, but the "all of my chat logs are public" move is as authentic as you need to be. I respect that

[@sy-py]

@@anorouch Hi basil

[@KJSBM]

@@anorouchomg basil hiii!!!

[@anorouch]

@@KJSBM jfc. What a bunch of toxic shitters. I'm not basil. I haven't played mvm in five years bc of shits like him, and you.

[@vittripps]

@@anorouch lol Lmao even

[@anorouch]

@vittripps oh oh I get it now, I thought op was talking to/about basil. Not Weezer. My mistake. But still, screw mvm and you shitters that ruin it.

[@CCraft7]

All i know is that the guy at 0:46 saying that PvZ, Battleblock, and Ultrakill are goated is the only correct person here.

[@Tottally-real-demoman]

Yes

[@MJC-yo5kj]

Pvz is goated

[@jaevernyong826]

the entire situation just feels like some expert lawyer who has all the evidence in the world to prove that some angry child did something wrong but the child just stands outside of the court screaming that he did nothing wrong and occasionally walks in the court and ignores the lawyer just to go back to screaming

[@jimbocraggins]

a gen alpha child

[@jjoohhnn6065]

@@jimbocraggins basil being a 5 year old is crazy

[@RedshirtAfficionado]

Idk dude this is basically just weezy sending fans after someone he acknowledges as deeply mentally ill. It’s more like if a lawyer tried to organize an angry mob against said child

[@mud4309]

@@RedshirtAfficionado every time I think I’ve heard the dumbest TF2 take, I find a dumber one.

[@jblazerndrowzy]

@@RedshirtAfficionadoCounterargument: Banana hat schizo is cooler than griefer schizo

[@ken.7019]

what's so intriguing is how this guy dedicates to do this. He literally has no following whatsoever and yet he is hellbent on protecting his "image"

[@SamuelTrademarked]

yeah it's bizarre

[@marzipancutter8144]

He's been on this crusade long before he's been discovered like this. No man can possibly understand his motivation.

[@duncanchillake8024]

I have a suspicion basil doesn't have much going on in his life, nobody older than 6 should have enough free time to do this shit everyday. What a fucking loser

[@1010xxx33]

weed pyro irl

[@floorpizza8074]

Just unreal how people can be this neurotic. It's a *freaking game* . I wonder what these people would be like in real life. I'd seriously like to meet them... see if they're just screwed up online, or if it's a through-and-through thing. Edit: Posted this while still watching the video. Your final statement had me rolling: "Now go get therapy, this shit isn't normal." Germany has social healthcare. Maybe he can get in to see a descendant of Freud for free?

[@aandyherr817]

Bro is about to hit jail if he keeps it up lol if he’s in the US, it won’t be good, if he’s in Germany, he may get the help he needs. Nonetheless, a child exploitation group named taco something is there and he’s a member of it 🤣 bro, the moment I found some groups of mine had people like that in it I reported it and dropped out ASAP. Assholes, abusers and shitheads are everywhere. It’s one thing accidentally being associated and doing the right thing, Then there’s basil, who actively participated and participates in child exploitation and harassment. Wild.

[@sep_timius]

For the claim that Basil harrasses low tours, ive been in servers with me and friends (all under 20 tours) while he has 200+, and he immediately leaves. We've never been griefed by him, but its happed two or three times on 2 Cities specificly in which he joins, sees low tours, and leaves. It seems like a similar situation tho.

[@mythmakroxymore1670]

As a pyro main, with only 190 hours on the class, i apologize for this man’s subhuman behavior.

[@bokbliner]

np bro, every class has their own monkeys. the pyros just cry the loudest.

[@starmaker75]

Seriously this makes accidents airblasting the robot toward your teams mate (because you are panicking or trying to cheese it) look nice

[@leithaziz2716]

For every toxic Pyro main, there is a friendly Pybro. Looking at the comments below, wow you guys sure like to group in every main of a class like they behave the same.

[@Dalek59862]

Man(child)

[@damsen978]

Pyro mains are the worst. There's one i met that always joined with his pocket vacc Medic and both played really good, i did too. But most of the times when i owned them, they started to insult me despite me not saying anything to them. They were also seeking attention by chatting between themselves in the "All" chat of the game (when they're surely on a discord call). Their level of projection was god-like, least arrogant players. There's also the ones that think they can reflect against any soldier/demo player and get terribly mad at me when i still own them with rockets. They went to the point of just stopping using airblast and straight up tried to puff n' sting combo me, and i still got them with rockets (without a medic even). He then repeatedly started to request a pocket medic via Team chat, and someone from his team copy pasted the team messages and shared them in All chat (that's how i got to know), people then told him to stop crying. What a bunch of sore losers. At least Spy mains aren't as stubborn, they stop trying to do trickstabs when they know they don't work against you and just start shooting which makes more sense. And Sniper mains rage-switch to Scout when i own them, which also makes more sense to do than what Pyro mains do. Heavy mains got most of my respect though, they don't cry or say anything in chat when dying/losing, just like i do. Literally the most based class of the game.

[@mattattack2502]

ive been told my "mf named after a herb" comment got featured somewhere in this video. thanks weezy

[@unflexian]

1:44

[@deganplays6532]

Update Released: -The Bomb Carrier is now immune to airblast.

[@risa1467]

That wouldn't be so bad, but a blanket fix towards the knockback resistance robots are suppose to have will be better. And temporary soft-bans...

[@krsvi713]

alternatively - robots have extreme knockback resistance to being pushed forwards, and can only be effectively pushed to the sides and backwards

[@risa1467]

@@krsvi713 That can be a solution, but you can still to negatively impact the game, and otherwise grief it. Perhaps it will only make it harder, yet it can be done. They're a motivated bunch. All they just need to do is even bother to fix the sole problem of knockback resistance broken. So much so, they've acknowledge the problem in the past post Jungle-Inferno. It's just that the TF-Team is slow to do stuff & check for other areas of abusive behaviors. Being able to remove them, and have them stay out? Priceless fix that's needed the most.

[@Ultra289]

But then it makes the point of airblast useless... It would not make sense to do it

[@mr.kenway4554]

​@@Ultra289I'd rather take this fix than giving them any way of screwing the game As I had said it before, airblast is the worst thing to ever exist in MvM exclusively.

[@Asas_TV]

This is why people hate MvM players. Too many psychos in a gamemode where the player count is fairly low, so you'll run into them repeatedly.

[@Ultra289]

I barely have since 2021...

[@Pal4093]

Basil took, "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain." To a whole new level.

[@ProfessorTurnipAlpha]

never been so hyped to watch an exhaustively comprehensive documentary about some insular microdrama within a subcommunity of a moribund video game

[@spartanwar1185]

bonus points on that comment for teaching me like two new words lol ("insular" and "moribund" if you wanted to know)

[@Ultra289]

You just could not describe it better 👍

[@g80gzt]

You can just avoid a lot of the 'impersonation' lashing-out by just putting a "re-enactment footage" watermark on it

[@theflyingcatz]

Was thinking the same. "Dramatization" or something.

[@aandyherr817]

@@theflyingcatzthen he’ll say you faked it anyways and lied about it lol mentally ill people tf2 sub game mode exploiting children. What did you expect? Logic? The guy and group who griefed also exploited children. What do we expect from someone so unstable?

[@sage5296]

Guys, did you know that the ship used in the movie "Titanic" isn't the real titanic? and the actors aren't even the original people who died on the ship either!! Scandalous!!!

[@jamstheshapeshifter]

Are you sure?

[@danaa-]

"Dear god." _"There's more."_

[@quesm203]

What the… I just finished watching the two cheaters in mvm videos and found the sections talking about the schizophrenic behavior of various mvm players both interesting and informative. I thought to myself, “ I wonder if weezy has anymore videos covering this?” Wake up and this is the first thing I see. Thank you weezy and please get out of my walls.

[@thearcheovistofsolkeeperof6326]

If it means we get more videos like this i advocate for him staying in your walls

[@AzFresh3]

I myself don’t like cheaters, but, oh man those tacobots and any other toxic MVM groups like them look like Cheatphobia or CheatSupportphobia are actual real things LOL.

[@starmaker75]

Seriously, a psychology would have a field day to study the effects of gamvling

[@mariustan9275]

At the very least pizzabot members at least tend to be polite.

[@yellowprotogen]

i got kicked by some of either tacobot or pizzabot members while in a lobby with a guy named lollichop enjoyer and gentleman. its kinda bullshit that happens.

[@AzFresh3]

I (think) I know why these anti-cheating groups really hate cheating THAT MUCH. It’s not strange that most TF2 community focus and plays more in the PvP “Standard” gamemode (AKA casual), and the PvE community (AKA MVM) is pretty much smaller than them because the game was born in the PvP playstyle and they released Mann Vs. Machine some years later. So, as part of the playerbase who likes MVM more than Casual, we just accept the fact that most people in TF2 don’t even mind or care about MvM the same level as Casual, and probably even Tacobots or any group dedicated in MvM are fine with this. HOWEVER, when people do these cheats, those anti-cheating people think that they are telling them: “MVM is boring, i just came for the loot.” Straight to their faces. And problem is, they apply that logic to every cheater supporter as well, because they accept cheating in order to get loot faster. Tacobots and any other MVM groups like them represent the people of the community who enjoy playing MVM instead of getting loot, which is funny and kinda ironic, since it’s VERY rare to see them in custom MVM missions (like potato.tf missions), in which even the smaller community around custom MVM are the actual ones to play it for fun more than loot (I guess) and you have the advantage of not finding hackers in bootcamp and custom MVM, because, why would they cheat if they can’t get loot other than experience in which they don’t care?

[@yellowprotogen]

@AzFresh3 with all due respect, I cannot read all that.

[@antivirusfrisk]

hey weezy, near the bottom of advanced settings. you can turn on demo recordings for ALL your games, meaning you can just use a demo file and record different points of view and footage and stuff and just aim the camera after the fact.

[@crimsonvale7337]

The thing about body doubles, I agree it is necessary and even beneficial to use them, however it does feel somewhat underhanded when you reveal that purportedly “real” clips are re-enactments. I think it would benefit you to make some sort of disclaimer on re-enacted clips, like they do in TV, nothing major, more just a textbox in a corner saying “re-enactment”. At the very least, this would give you a much stronger defence that “yeah I did it without really bringing it up but that’s just cinema”, especially because documentaries state when their footage is original or contemporary.

[@spartanwar1185]

THIS! We need this comment to be seen by Weezy

[@Spiritchuckpvp]

@@spartanwar1185 If you look through the comments that Weezy has responded to, he has seen comments like these and has replied to them. Quoting Weezy: "Will very likely be doing this going forward. Originally, I actually had a whole segment in this video dedicated to that argument in particular as it's one I've grappled with several times myself. Having disclaimers was actually my original intention when conceptualizing the footage, but when I started adding them onto the timeline, I realized it was both extremely ugly and immersion-breaking. I tried to turn down the opacity to make it less apparent, but it's less so a visual gripe and more-so a psychological one. The best comparison I can give to illustrate this would be any "actors, not real people" text below your average TV ad. I can't speak for everyone, but at least for me, whenever I end up reading that line, my brain starts moving towards judging the acting chops of the people involved and less-so on the product itself. I realized that me doing this would move focus away from the story I'm trying to tell and instead towards the creation process behind it, and that's why I've ultimately decided against it for the longest time. However, as of this video, everyone now knows how the sausage is made, if I don't point it out myself, y'all will start searching lol. Unless there's an adequate reason to retain the old method, this will probably be the new road I'll be taking."

[@TheHumanPerson9753]

@@Spiritchuckpvpto many words

[@Spiritchuckpvp]

@@TheHumanPerson9753 Average MVM player:

[@TheHumanPerson9753]

@@Spiritchuckpvp my feelers, they are hurt

[@killkenny4973]

cant spell Weezy without the W keep it up

[@organicleaf]

and cant spell basil without the L

[@jblazerndrowzy]

@@organicleafoof

[@ThatguycalledJoe]

Regarding the body doubles, you could have at least stamped "DRAMATIC REENACTMENT" somewhere blatantly on screen. That would've been nice.

[@Generic_Doodles]

Goddamn, I thought the worse part of MvM I’d encounter was being told to put a shotgun in my mouth for playing pyro.

[@bbstuffz6257]

If you want to be a vigilante, you usually want to make yourself look good in everyone’s eyes Or just become apart of the civilian side, and be a force to do something

[@Underworlder5]

personally, the concept of vigilantism intrigues me. in this instance, the video could be a case study on the dark side of vigilantism, when they believe themselves completely in the right and become no better than the criminals they hunt. more fuel for my research, i suppose

[@risa1467]

@@Underworlder5 Vigilantism is from the belief that the Authority isn't doing anything or enough to deal with certain issues. Very easy to see why people support, if not, glorify such actions against targets that socially people wouldn't like. Obviously, TF2 has a cheating problem because Valve isn't interested to tackle the issue in significant capacities anymore. At the same time, Mann-up is a Pay-to-Enter experience, and very well they can be aware of it all; although they are also benefiting from cheaters buying tickets to consume them. This is actually seen with those predator catcher videos on KZbin, and extreme wacky conspiracy theories that fuel these beliefs where society isn't, "Doing enough," to punish accused/convicted persons. Rightfully so we don't like the ones who prey, yet most of those groups would love nothing more than to deliver street justice, and captivate an audience for it. In this case, the Authority, Valve, refuses to do anything about rampant cheating. Then so, the solution becomes self-appointed, "MVM Community," members to griefing cheaters.

[@reagansido5823]

The way Basel is handling this is... Odd to say the least. Why you would act like that when faced with the perception that you suck-basically proving it right- is beyond me.

[@AnActualBean9034]

i remember when i saw Basil with my own eyes in a mann up game. we were waiting for somebody else to join as we had 5/6 people. as i stared at the server list, i saw a person with 1000 tours join. i felt like i had known who he is, but i never could put a finger on actually WHERE i heard him from. thankfully, we were all pretty low tours so he left a couple seconds later. it wasnt till we started the match i said to myself "holy fuck, that was the pyro guy"

[@ezrathemilkman7525]

How does Weezy turn video game drama into a Death Note episode

[@iseegreen5297]

Because he can

[@yeeternoob2010]

Money

[@iseegreen5297]

@@slvrshore5300 Woah woah woah! There buddy thats way to sudden jeez

[@kempolar9768]

​@@iseegreen5297 What did he say? He deleted his comment.

[@iseegreen5297]

@@kempolar9768 bro called him a fascist for criticizing basil 😭😭😭

[@spidercrackerz959]

I was in the game with basil and schwabbel, me and lalo09 were just playing and watched this go down. This is crazy

[@lalo0956]

Yea lmao ngl thanks weezy we did end up finish the rounds and getting carried

[@herrdoctor2895]

Bros getting front sits

[@temporarychannel-uh8rv]

its unbelievably hilarious to me how much basil cares about this, he really cannot let anything go

[@shanshansan]

"mf named after a herb" is crazy bro 😭😭😭

[@danaa-]

this man(basil) is an insult to basil

[@theelusivepootisberd7471]

​@@danaa-fr. He needs to do anything else with his life. Maybe pick up a hobby? Photography sounds good.

[@danaa-]

@@theelusivepootisberd7471 yea, that seems nice, and maybe he might take on gardening, i mean what can go wrong there?

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

It's crazy to me that there's more toxicity in a PvE side mode than there is in the main PvP modes in TF2.

[@magneht]

i havent watched the full video yet but when it comes to "dummy footage" i think having some disclaimer on the screen saying its a reenactment and or if you have the clips of them saying things in text chat having a screencap of it show up for a second to at least show its legitimacy. not saying this as a reason to justify their actions at all still pretty scummy. i also just like seeing the raw screencap moments more even if its harder to read

[@appelofdoom8211]

Weezy mentioned in another comment that he'll likely be putting a "this is a reenactment" disclaimer in the corner of the video going forward.

[@anhluuviet5793]

Bro tore their claims apart and proceeds to read their mindset like a bloody book 🗿

[@RedshirtAfficionado]

Basil seems genuinely mentally ill, his internet access needs to be metered

[@badonis7289]

Basil's done. He's been seasoned, saute'd, and served to perfection.

[@Polar_Pyro_YT21]

And I ate him up in like, 3~ish minutes.

[@theonlybilge]

Rustic, yeah? Beautiful, yeah?

[@Polar_Pyro_YT21]

@@theonlybilge Tasted more like Chernobyl.

[@someguy9175]

hey, why don't you just write at the bottom left corner of the screen "REENACTMENT"? certainly wouldn't take much effort at all and would help people to not take these clips for what they aren't or use them as such.

[@Raxarion]

I do agree with this.

[@MikelTime]

Only Weezy can make a goofy game drama into a serious court case.

[@zenithzv]

Bros named after a herb 💀

[@ammazer1229]

Sad he called his alt averagepvzgw2fan bc that game slaps and doesn’t deserve to be associated with the perfidious herb.

[@sketchydude8431]

"Perifidious Herb" sounds like an insult a plant based mad scientist would throw out

[@SaintRedFox]

not even 3 minutes in and i can say basil is literally the embodiment of "whats blud yapping about?"

[@RealK0median]

“TF2 has the most accepting and welcoming community!”

[@mrgodzillaraptors8632]

“The MvM community however…”

[@trevstrevs]

Yes it does, but MVM…….it scares me.

[@ihavenoidea598]

I think you should mark re-created footage, otherwise that's kinda fucked up lol

[@mkarg5012]

Yeah, that's the only thing

[@theflyingcatz]

I also don't really think 'i recreated it exactly as it was, i swear guys' is good enough evidence

[@henry9994]

I love these videos. They showcase how unhinged some people get.

[@WolfDarkrose]

As a schizophrenic myself I'll say this with 30 years of dealing with this. This guy is not schizophrenic he has peer issues and wants to be seen in a light he likes. It's honestly more a narcissistic trait then mental health. Schizophrenia if he had it at the level he is attacking you. He would be put in a mental ward or I'd get lawyers involved. Schizophrenia is a spectrum and on the very bad. Is murder insanity and literally going insane. Aka why I feel this is more q narcissistic and attention seeking.

[@XSpamDragonX]

There is more than one condition that can cause paranoid delusions and aggressive reactions to perceived immoral behaviour; you are an expert on your schizophrenia, not everyone else's, and you definitely aren't an expert on any other neurological or behavioural disorders.

[@Bug_Bait]

Sorry you gotta deal with that, man.

[@Momentusx3]

​@@slvrshore5300 Hi Basil

[@mjsugod1385]

​​@@slvrshore5300no fuking way it's Brazil himself

[@Szgerle]

He can just as easily be schizotypical, he has several of the symptoms.

[@ducke9848]

Glad I’m not on the list, i left pizzabot like months before his first vid 😂 hahaha that was me that streamed on his discord with mvm cheats. People were freaking out Sooo many people reported me xDDD I joined the discord thinking it would be fun to watch the toxic ppl scream at each other but it was mostly peaceful I chilled around with tacos that day. Honestly if we hadn’t been kicked from the discord the whole disconnect between the 2 sides could of had a chance of some resolution. We were having normals convos

[@TheEvanDude112]

This video will be the pinnacle on why Weezy will be one of the best TF2 content creators I’ve ever watched. I will never not respect an individual who will admit to when they were in the wrong, learn from it, and show people what exactly was wrong. It’s unfortunate we’ve got people like Basil in the MvM queues; people like him, even if you lie to their face and tell them they were right specifically so they stop their bullshit, will still continue with that same BS because it isn’t what they say they’re trying to do that they give a shit about. The impression they give me is that they only want one thing above all else: a fight. However, that may just be my opinion alone. Stay awesome, Weezy. I’ll always be here to watch your content 👍

[@helm36]

How do we tell him

[@fink_rat]

​@@helm36 Hello there basil

[@helm36]

@@fink_rathi weezy serv

[@MrXtr1]

​@@helm36ratiod

[@danaa-]

​@@helm36 hello unloved child

[@thefirstsalty3055]

10:00 i think this is valid critique of you honestly. you should state when you're using a recreation instead of just inserting it as is.

[@tamnker8465]

Hey that's great. In the future, to avoid this type of controversy happening again, it's probably a good idea to put a little "recreated footage" in one of the corners to clear up any ambiguity. I understand it slightly reduces the quality of the video, but the fact you had to hide it makes you seem suspicious.

[@thequagsire3592]

Mvm players in tf2 have always seemed like a strange case to me

[@mattthekiller9129]

Weezy, for the love of god stay safe I'm not joking, what is happening is harassment and persecutory behavior....this could excalate Not saying you should stop talking about those people, but keep every screenshot and video, in case you might need to file a restrain order

[@starmaker75]

Seriously I kyinda worried about Wheezy. These past few years has shown that people like basil can and probably will stalk, doxxed or even swat people. Yeah for Weezy, I said prepared for even more terrible behavior for these people

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

Basil if you see this Reply calm down. Still It’s a PvE gamodd so who cares if your cheating to get an unfair advantage on Swarms of Bots? It’s only a game why do have to be so mad? We(Will make sense soon) don’t agree with your actions at all don’t get both people on this account wrong. All That is to say just get some help.

[@GoEatATowel]

Weezy should carry.

[@maninthemask6275]

If he gets clapped for tf2 drama I’m gonna laugh my ass off.

[@theonlyone3532]

Mk here is the issue, body doubles are not obvious, point blank. And you can not expect your viewers to eventually "catch on" even if you feel it wasn't a hard puzzle to crack. Viewers tend to offer far too much credit to youtubers to be completely transparent, and I think it is fair to be more clear when re-shot footage is used. But that isnt the biggest deal in this case, would just make a point to show when something is a reenactment.

[@Prellium]

I played a full map on 2 Cities once with Basil and he played normally. I'm pretty sure he remembered his meds that day.

[@Sandre96]

I always find unbelievable the ammount of insanity that just one mode can provide! i've never played MvM, i'm just here for the banana man's voice talking about his hobbies but i'm glad that this kind of strange people fuel your channel's revenue, keep going Weezy!

[@MaskedVengeanceTV]

I'm really grateful for these videos, because usually they pop up into my feed when I'm having second thoughts about life, questions, or think I'm a loser. And these videos help remind me that I do indeed have my life together and I'm not, in fact, a total loser like these two.

[@NotSamG]

I remember opening the Basil document , skimming through it, and it was just the most "who the fuck cares" thing i've ever read. Its very funny to see them post it under EVERY SINGLE TWEET YOU MAKE

[@alosthat5527]

It's funny, cuz I randomly met him when playing on Pineapple MvM event. Glad it was a moment when he didn't do any weird stuff but it sure is good to know what sort of players participate in these events.

[@FNicky91]

not all mvm players are like basil lad

[@davidhong1934]

Do people season pineapple with basil?

[@alosthat5527]

@@FNicky91 I'm not saying all MvM players are toxic, just kinda sucks you run into such guys even outside official MvM

[@danaa-]

​@@davidhong1934pinapple does not deserve that.

[@Ultra289]

What? Basil on pineapple tf? Which event? The last one?

[@PhoenixPalmer88]

As an outsider, I think its morally correct to cheat in Valve's overpriced lootbox mode for a game overrun by problems that make it unplayable.

[@craigkuhlman6869]

A bit extreme a stance, but there is always the option of NOT playing an "overpriced lootbox mode for a game overrun by problems that make it unplayable". Speaking as someone that does like TF2 in whole, flaws and all, it probably is better to just tough it out in Boot Camp MvM because at least you won't have spent money on what basically amounts to a precursor to Diablo Immortal's special-gem dungeons (though at least Mann Up's rewards are cosmetic and thus not actually gameplay advantage to throwing money into a furnace)

[@PhoenixPalmer88]

@@craigkuhlman6869 Don't worry chief, got ya covered there. Haven't played TF2 since 2016

[@keeb__]

You do require the original footage to substanciate a claim. When you present a recreation you really fucking need to make it clear, otherwise you will send the wrong message. Even if it should be obvious without a big flashing screen. Its a necessity if you wish to make an honest argument. I am not defending bazil, I am scrutinizing you.

[@sirpotato8733]

🤓

[@keeb__]

@@sirpotato8733 sanest weezy viewer

[@skelecogfromthehitmmotoontown]

How are the mvm “people” still unreasonably mad at this guy

[@ajgameguy3674]

They're genuinely so egotistical that they can't admit that getting so tilted and petty over a guy calling them out for being so petty and tilted over a side-mode on a nearly two decade game is kinda silly.

[@PastaCool]

Because he encourages them by constantly talking about them making videos about them

[@justafan9399]

@@PastaCool Pretty sure three videos specifically referring to particular individuals interspersed over months isn’t constant, bub.

[@PastaCool]

@@justafan9399 ok chud

[@deyontemyers4109]

​​@@justafan9399...why did an image of toad pop up in my head as soon as you said bub

[@Lyndis_]

Chill on the ableism man, I'm sure you don't mean it like that but it's still not cool

[@Someone-sq8im]

🗿

[@S_Phoenix-059]

I never saw someone so obsessed with someone else, this guy is living rent free in Basil’s head