tf2's hitboxes have gaps

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shounic

shounic

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@shounic
@shounic 3 жыл бұрын
edit: bonus for those who asked - if there was someone unfortunate enough to be between the gaps: twitter.com/shoun1c/status/1428538550518222848 heya. just so you all know, the hitbox display command i used in this video isn't available in live tf2 (the currently publicly available version of tf2) since 2010 --> wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/May_20,_2010_Patch (last bullet point). since the source code leaked, we can re-enable the command. unfortunately i don't think it's a good idea to risk being sued for distributing their code and copyrighted materials so i'm not going to upload a edited copy of tf2 lol
@cielros
@cielros 3 жыл бұрын
ok
@hoodcate
@hoodcate 3 жыл бұрын
Darn
@yaelwhitson780
@yaelwhitson780 3 жыл бұрын
Shounic we love you please don’t go to jail
@deirasjankauskas3381
@deirasjankauskas3381 3 жыл бұрын
I wanderer how many spy's and other classes have lived because of this
@user-mz6wb
@user-mz6wb 3 жыл бұрын
hitbox momento
@NotSmartAmber
@NotSmartAmber 3 жыл бұрын
"I didn't miss! My shot just went through him!"
@NekkiNosra07
@NekkiNosra07 3 жыл бұрын
"Isn't that.... The point of shooting him?"
@NotSmartAmber
@NotSmartAmber 3 жыл бұрын
@@NekkiNosra07 yes but no
@recurvestickerdragon
@recurvestickerdragon 3 жыл бұрын
Further limiting how well shotguns perform from how they SHOULD perform
@NickIvanRowan
@NickIvanRowan 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a good excuse
@chewtag
@chewtag 3 жыл бұрын
nice profile pic
@mFilipe20
@mFilipe20 3 жыл бұрын
Is this it? Is this them finally outsmarting bullet?
@johnnotsena9171
@johnnotsena9171 3 жыл бұрын
My God.......
@davisdf3064
@davisdf3064 3 жыл бұрын
New TF2 hack, Sniper bots now have no hitbox, they finally outsmarted boolet
@bottle7128
@bottle7128 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnotsena9171 There's more.
@johnnotsena9171
@johnnotsena9171 3 жыл бұрын
@@bottle7128 No!....
@mrfrogman9559
@mrfrogman9559 3 жыл бұрын
*boolet
@PNolandS
@PNolandS 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine spy checking an enemy spy in disguise, seeing your shot pass right through him, giving him the all clear, and then immediately seeing him backstab you or a teammate.
@Jebu911
@Jebu911 3 жыл бұрын
must have happened a few times
@laziness6641
@laziness6641 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jebu911 I ran through a sniper shot once, so that felt... fun
@kindalangueza
@kindalangueza 3 жыл бұрын
@iamafuckingfailure
@iamafuckingfailure 3 жыл бұрын
@@kindalangueza what
@topatanimations
@topatanimations 3 жыл бұрын
i havent played tf2 but i would think that spy is a hacker
@meeyatttA
@meeyatttA 3 жыл бұрын
engineer is so intelligent, he went to half life model viewer and shortened his hitboxes
@Pumpkinsmasherok
@Pumpkinsmasherok 3 жыл бұрын
You better start praying boy cause I'm a god
@xdskiller3509
@xdskiller3509 3 жыл бұрын
But now he cant use his hands because he has no hit box and he will fall in to the void
@VentA_7
@VentA_7 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdskiller3509 his feet still had hit boxes, so he won’t fall through the floor, the other part you said is true tho
@ceoofcomedy3009
@ceoofcomedy3009 3 жыл бұрын
the virgin making your hitboxes smaller vs the chad deleting them
@theoriginal7144
@theoriginal7144 3 жыл бұрын
"engineer gaming"
@JiJ1511
@JiJ1511 3 жыл бұрын
I like thinking that Scout has blood pumping through his backpack now.
@cryosthesia77k69
@cryosthesia77k69 3 жыл бұрын
I stole this joke, but it's a tumor
@Technotoadnotafrog
@Technotoadnotafrog 3 жыл бұрын
It's his phylactery
@JohnSmith-ex8iw
@JohnSmith-ex8iw 3 жыл бұрын
@@Technotoadnotafrog Scout is a centuries-old lich confirmed?
@Sav3_St4te
@Sav3_St4te 3 жыл бұрын
It's Archimedes
@silentmayan5427
@silentmayan5427 3 жыл бұрын
You sat that as if you dont
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 3 жыл бұрын
My assumption would be: The Hitboxes where made while the characters where in T-Pose. As soon as additional rotation is applied to the bones, gaps open up.
@thebruhmachine2955
@thebruhmachine2955 3 жыл бұрын
Momongus
@llucllumador380
@llucllumador380 3 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely what happened. I wonder why do they need 3 different hitboxes for the chest, with 1 big hitbox this problem would be avoided
@maximgeldon
@maximgeldon 3 жыл бұрын
@@llucllumador380 you cant bend a 1 big hitbox ...
@llucllumador380
@llucllumador380 3 жыл бұрын
@@maximgeldon well I don't think you need to... it's not like the characters bend that much that it would be a problem. Funny that they would be worried about the hitbox precision to the point of needed multiple to simulate bending and yet they fucking leave gaps between the different hitboxes. If bending is absolutely needed then the simple solution I guess is to overlap the different hitboxes to cover for the rotation.
@mofynn
@mofynn 3 жыл бұрын
@@llucllumador380 to big hitboxes are a way more noticable problem. And people are more likely annoyed by it even though it's less problematic from a gameplay perspective.
@drahprub7750
@drahprub7750 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like spy has no heart canonically, as he takes no damage when shot at it
@Thispersonisreal
@Thispersonisreal 3 жыл бұрын
looks he doesnt canonically have lungs either
@lowcostfish
@lowcostfish 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thispersonisreal how else would he survive the constant smoking?
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 3 жыл бұрын
@@lowcostfish _After the surgery_ "Thank you, doctor." *lights cigarette
@epicredhot5675
@epicredhot5675 3 жыл бұрын
hearts, or lungs?
@mugiwaradarwin4504
@mugiwaradarwin4504 3 жыл бұрын
*He's a heartless wretch.*
@SolarLight
@SolarLight 3 жыл бұрын
technically a demoknight buff
@zacheurittz9865
@zacheurittz9865 3 жыл бұрын
teamoknight df2
@TextualDeviant
@TextualDeviant 3 жыл бұрын
Because why bother with a bunch of existing, playermodel-synchronized hitboxes when you can just make a huge ridiculous hitbox and call it a day.
@UniQwer
@UniQwer 3 жыл бұрын
another win for the demoknight team fortress two
@WINDOWS-ke1ic
@WINDOWS-ke1ic 3 жыл бұрын
E
@TheDrunkenGunsmith
@TheDrunkenGunsmith 3 жыл бұрын
demoknight tf2
@andrewrobotbuilder
@andrewrobotbuilder 3 жыл бұрын
As someone with an average KDA of 1-367-2, this just proves how good I actually am. I just aim right between the boxes
@kazinur
@kazinur 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 😂
@Wrsfts
@Wrsfts 3 жыл бұрын
I'm too stupid to understand this
@ili5207
@ili5207 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wrsfts he's good at aiming between the hitboxes
@andrewrobotbuilder
@andrewrobotbuilder 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wrsfts KDA refers to your Kills, Deaths and Assists, terms used to describe your performance in a game matching to the numbers. High amount of kills and assists? You're great. High deaths? Not so much. So I've made the argument that my reason for my high deaths is due to my top-notch accuracy and not to me sucking harder than Lana Rhoades
@xatlaswolf2339
@xatlaswolf2339 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wrsfts 1 kill, 367 deaths and 2 assists.
@Mantafirefly
@Mantafirefly 3 жыл бұрын
Real marksmen: "Aim for centre of mass" TF2: "Uhh, about that...."
@xdskiller3509
@xdskiller3509 3 жыл бұрын
You mean The lucksman
@its_o9ine613
@its_o9ine613 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder when someone says”oh but the huntsman shares a hit box for all the 9 classes
@PsychadelicoDuck
@PsychadelicoDuck 3 жыл бұрын
You fool! You aimed for my heart, the one place I cannot be hurt!
@LARAUJO_0
@LARAUJO_0 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anyone say to aim for people's belly buttons
@dustinjames1268
@dustinjames1268 3 жыл бұрын
@@LARAUJO_0 In almost any training for weaponry, you're taught to aim for center of mass because it reduces the chance of missing aswell as the chance of hitting bystanders Police training you're taught to shoot arms and legs when possible and centre mass when there's the possibility of bystanders being hit
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed 3 жыл бұрын
Engi used to not have a pelvis hitbox. So, I am not too suprized.
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
Used to? Why'd they remove it?
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed 3 жыл бұрын
@@HOTD108_ The reverse. It got added.
@alexanderharrison7421
@alexanderharrison7421 3 жыл бұрын
@@KimFareseed I remember a time when people made jokes about shooting engi in the dick and him being completely unphased
@unnoticed4571
@unnoticed4571 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderharrison7421 My memory has suddenly sparked and I remember all of that Imma go see if I can find any videos of it
@cursed_cats5710
@cursed_cats5710 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderharrison7421 Femgineer Gaming
@thatkidinvr9501
@thatkidinvr9501 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how many ''I LITERALLY HIT HIM''s this has caused
@jackuval9362
@jackuval9362 2 жыл бұрын
I'd wager quite a few on Engineer and Spy, those are _quite_ egregious
@kujokage1911
@kujokage1911 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackuval9362 use normal words pls
@jackuval9362
@jackuval9362 2 жыл бұрын
@@kujokage1911 I HATE doing that
@Poopfan101
@Poopfan101 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackuval9362 that's not _quite_ egregious of you.
@goatmagnum
@goatmagnum 2 жыл бұрын
@@kujokage1911 egregious is a normal word
@hoonterofhoonters6588
@hoonterofhoonters6588 3 жыл бұрын
I remember back when CSGO got its updated, accurately placed hit bubbles to replace its old boxes and I naively thought that TF2 would get the same treatment.
@fernandonepomuceno7148
@fernandonepomuceno7148 3 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@rachelslur8729
@rachelslur8729 3 жыл бұрын
sad
@rachelslur8729
@rachelslur8729 3 жыл бұрын
also they're called capsules
@ValentineC137
@ValentineC137 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachelslur8729 beans
@White-Kagura
@White-Kagura 3 жыл бұрын
@@ValentineC137 bêèéēęĕėëéěans wtf
@drippyfool
@drippyfool 3 жыл бұрын
So there's a very real chance that you meatshot an engi with the shotgun, random bullet spread makes every bullet phase through his hitboxes, and it random crit OHKO's a Scout standing behind the Engi
@tedtubegaming
@tedtubegaming 3 жыл бұрын
that would be absolutely hilarious
@faceless2302
@faceless2302 3 жыл бұрын
Or you could miss a collateral with the Machina even though you still shot through someone technically.
@ImGonnaFudgeThatFish
@ImGonnaFudgeThatFish 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I have done this before
@ViciousVinnyD
@ViciousVinnyD 3 жыл бұрын
That actually seems possible with machina bodyshotting, especially on spies.
@hoffer_moment
@hoffer_moment 3 жыл бұрын
On hit: 0.00001% chance every pellet is critically charged and then sucked through a wormhole and transported out the back of your target, killing another target instantly.
@TVSh0rts
@TVSh0rts 3 жыл бұрын
While Playing sniper I also discovered that every class has a hitbox gaps where their head is
@Trafficallity
@Trafficallity 11 ай бұрын
no u just suck
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 3 жыл бұрын
You can't shoot: * Spy's heart, lungs, and spine. * Demoman's liver. * Soldier's left scapula and his crotch. * Pyro's right lung or his liver. * Heavy's left scapula. * Engineer's stomach and spine. * Medic's intestines and spine. * Sniper's lungs or spine.
@eltiolavara9
@eltiolavara9 3 жыл бұрын
bold of you to assume demoman has a liver
@untrustworthybagel
@untrustworthybagel 3 жыл бұрын
@@eltiolavara9 there is a dramatic arc about demo and his liver in the comics wym
@Ultra289
@Ultra289 3 жыл бұрын
Depending posture
@CrowCrojoINTJ
@CrowCrojoINTJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@untrustworthybagel the best arc in fiction
@boneman9751
@boneman9751 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think anyone can fathom how disappointed I am that vital organ shots do nothing in a fps game
@anthonyg.780
@anthonyg.780 3 жыл бұрын
Trivial detail but at 1:13, after you removed Engi's upper body hitboxes, the overheal particles (red +) are visible only on his legs legs, which means they can be applied only to player hitboxes.
@shounic
@shounic 3 жыл бұрын
oh wow, i didn't even notice that, you're right. that's a cool fun fact :) thanks for pointing it out
@Thornskade
@Thornskade 3 жыл бұрын
It's also why particles on gibs for the cow mangler death are off, it's because some of the gibs have their "hitboxes" rotated differently from the actual model for some reason.
@MrMiguel211
@MrMiguel211 3 жыл бұрын
source spaghetti
@hi-i-am-atan
@hi-i-am-atan 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMiguel211 i press the fire button and my dude fires his weapon, what sorta pasta bake code is this game made out of
@sourestcake
@sourestcake 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMiguel211 ​ This makes sense from a performance standpoint, though. Generating random points within an arbitrary mesh, like a playermodel, is a lot more expensive than doing it with boxes that are already roughly aligned to the playermodel.
@CoolAsFreya
@CoolAsFreya 2 жыл бұрын
Game designers take note! Make sure your bounding boxes all overlap, it doesn't matter if a bullet hits two hit boxes that's easier to process in code than it missing a gap in the hit boxes!
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 Жыл бұрын
It's a problem when your game has penetrating bullets that are meant to do damage to both parts that were struck though, as it is for mine. How do I then figure out whether the bullet I shot at an enemy robot in my game really did pierce through its torso and right up into its head, in which I'd grant damage for both the torso hit, and the head hit (as well as the additional critical damage from the headshot), or if it simply hit overlapping hitboxes, whereby I have to avoid double damage events?
@RubiixCat
@RubiixCat Жыл бұрын
@@theshermantanker7043 Is there a reason the hitboxes need to be completely perfect? It'll probably be close enough that the player wouldn't notice, and it feels WAAY better for the player to get the damage bonus than to do no damage at all.
@apchistuz
@apchistuz Жыл бұрын
Bounding boxes are for the collision with the world, not hitscan
@nicolopicus7
@nicolopicus7 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see some in game achievement spaghetti. Achievement's that can be earned the wrong way or not at all etc.
@Radi0he4d1
@Radi0he4d1 3 жыл бұрын
youtube api achievements
@thisisspy288
@thisisspy288 3 жыл бұрын
@@Radi0he4d1 KZbin achievements don't work anymore because they KZbin changed/removed the API TF2 used to track the views
@miked5163
@miked5163 3 жыл бұрын
I got the domination ragequit achievement for a player I dominated the previous round leaving lol
@nicolopicus7
@nicolopicus7 3 жыл бұрын
@@miked5163 I remember getting that achievement for killing like 3 players doing the conga by hitting my own killbind
@Thornskade
@Thornskade 3 жыл бұрын
This would probably be kinda boring because a lot of it is very semantic. Mostly the descriptions don't tell you the exact mechanics and you're led to believe there's only one way to earn certain achievements.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain 3 жыл бұрын
"You probably won't ever be unlucky enough to shoot through these gaps" You underestimate my power
@cryojack1337
@cryojack1337 3 жыл бұрын
Random bullet spread, but it spreads through all the gaps
@xdskiller3509
@xdskiller3509 3 жыл бұрын
Thats will happen for any one have a good aim to miss this welp like thats not gonna ever happen for me
@Ultra289
@Ultra289 3 жыл бұрын
Thats actually what he says But the standing spy with the revolver looking at you, those chances are slightly higher
@toxic_shr00m
@toxic_shr00m 3 жыл бұрын
Don't try it!
@G59forlife.
@G59forlife. 3 жыл бұрын
Dont try it!
@LiveForMusic711
@LiveForMusic711 3 жыл бұрын
This explains so much! This must be happening to me every match
@I0NE007
@I0NE007 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting thing i noticed: the sniper laser will be present when overlaid with a hitbox but disappear (presumably projecting on the wall behind) if over a gap in the model's hitbox fields.
@Thornskade
@Thornskade 3 жыл бұрын
It couldn't be any other way, at least I'm not aware of a different method for rendering the laser on the player other than a ray trace
@malakimphoros2164
@malakimphoros2164 3 жыл бұрын
This can be used to detect cloaked spies and then kicked for cheating
@xdskiller3509
@xdskiller3509 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thornskade no one know the source spagity even the valve who made the source engine so 99.9 % there is a way no one know it
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 3 жыл бұрын
@@malakimphoros2164 wait, so you'd just have a floating laser dot in the air if there's a cloaked spy?
@Rico-bk5bj
@Rico-bk5bj 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdskiller3509 It's a very simple raycast(Line) that shoots out from the middle of the screen and then what ever point it hits on the hitbox it will project a laser effect. The only reason the laser doesn't appear directly on the mesh is because it doesn't contain any collision, which is what the laser needs to project onto a object.
@legenddairy0
@legenddairy0 3 жыл бұрын
So that explains why some shotgun bullets just disappear through the enemy when shot at point blank range
@incompetencelogistics8924
@incompetencelogistics8924 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably you just getting bullied by bloom
@christinezsfm
@christinezsfm 3 жыл бұрын
But you gotta be really really unlucky if none of the bullets hits
@legenddairy0
@legenddairy0 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinezsfm not none but shooting at point blank should be 90 with stock shotgun... not the case sometimes the video explains that i guess
@MartinPurathur
@MartinPurathur 3 жыл бұрын
Probably RBS
@Rexen1995
@Rexen1995 3 жыл бұрын
It also explains why this game is not played competitive anymore as much as it was.
@GMPranav
@GMPranav Жыл бұрын
I know's it's extremely rare but can we appreciate how you can literally shoot in the perfect center and "miss"? lol
@EclipsaMyrtenaster
@EclipsaMyrtenaster 3 жыл бұрын
The game where "The shot went through him!" is a viable excuse
@antonikudlicki1100
@antonikudlicki1100 2 жыл бұрын
What excuse? Who said we're supposed to play good? Playing bad makes it better
@SuicidalPi.314
@SuicidalPi.314 2 жыл бұрын
THEY FOUND OUT HOW TO OUTSMART BULLET
@fantastikboom1094
@fantastikboom1094 Жыл бұрын
@@SuicidalPi.314 LOL
@kalerug
@kalerug 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Scout's backpack and Pyro's gas tank are technically part of their bodies
@asteroidrules
@asteroidrules 3 жыл бұрын
In earlier versions of the game the pyro's tank would even bleed when hit.
@irotosuk9663
@irotosuk9663 3 жыл бұрын
i think it could explode in real life if a gun shoots a gas tank
@mrfootfxtish9430
@mrfootfxtish9430 3 жыл бұрын
@@irotosuk9663 naw bullets can’t make gas tanks explode, bullets are just going through the gas or smth
@IsChillianing
@IsChillianing 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrfootfxtish9430 Gas tanks are filled with gasoline
@thegiovannimauro
@thegiovannimauro 3 жыл бұрын
@@IsChillianing yes, but unless it's an incendiary round or sparks in some way the bullet shouldn't ignite it. Just because the container which houses the gasoline is ruptured that doesn't mean that the gas will ignite.
@sourceeee
@sourceeee 3 жыл бұрын
This is new knowledge to me after playing this game for a decade. If there was a small chance for me to be unlucky in this way then I've probably hit more dud shots than I can count.
@pileovideos1242
@pileovideos1242 3 жыл бұрын
scout keeps all his extra life force in his bag i guess?
@SnrubSource
@SnrubSource 3 жыл бұрын
It's a tumor
@SEX_TRAINER
@SEX_TRAINER 3 жыл бұрын
Funny, original, made me laugh, jokes about tumors were pretty funny too, because i like scout dying from cancer.
@lpmatthews7387
@lpmatthews7387 3 жыл бұрын
It's his phlactorphy, which is how medic revs him obviously, not cuz of literal godly intervention or medic owning scout's soul
@AbsoluteRatBastard
@AbsoluteRatBastard 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnrubSource he only has 3 days to live, but this time its real
@karstenkunneman5219
@karstenkunneman5219 3 жыл бұрын
@@lpmatthews7387 phylactery?
@kvandos
@kvandos 3 жыл бұрын
We finally know why the stormtroopers were “missing” their shots….
@AdaTheWatcher
@AdaTheWatcher 3 жыл бұрын
They manually used programs to make thier hitbox small
@General_Soldiernator7106
@General_Soldiernator7106 3 жыл бұрын
They also had the Back Scatter’s -20% accuracy debuff applied to their weapons.
@croc_moat2327
@croc_moat2327 3 жыл бұрын
Jedies have broken hitboxes lol
@jacksonhall5359
@jacksonhall5359 2 жыл бұрын
Wow they must be really unlucky
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 2 жыл бұрын
(0:20) So if you shoot the backpack from the side, he takes damage, even though it never hit him? Plus that hitbox on the head is huge.
@fedoraturtle6536
@fedoraturtle6536 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot how much Demoman moves around when he holds his melee.
@xdskiller3509
@xdskiller3509 3 жыл бұрын
What do you expect that guy is high when drinking the blood of his enemies
@captainfa-it-lcon915
@captainfa-it-lcon915 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdskiller3509 mixed with cheap whiskey.
@usernametaken017
@usernametaken017 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainfa-it-lcon915 He gets thousand of dollars because of his job but he just doesn't let go of his cheap whiskeys
@idk-cc1ep
@idk-cc1ep 3 жыл бұрын
@@usernametaken017 they're not exactly cheap when you drink a lot of them
@captainfa-it-lcon915
@captainfa-it-lcon915 3 жыл бұрын
@@idk-cc1ep I mean, each bottle is cheap itself for the average whiskey bottle.
@FormerBunsenBurner
@FormerBunsenBurner 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this series, I've come to realize that the most impressive part about TF2 is that it even boots up, with things like this.
@Mizir-pq7jf
@Mizir-pq7jf 3 жыл бұрын
I know it was fake put the story of the coconut png that would break the game if deleted from the files proves this point
@cheddartaco
@cheddartaco 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mizir-pq7jf it does crash if the model for the 2fort cow is missing though
@Mizir-pq7jf
@Mizir-pq7jf 3 жыл бұрын
@Sisu Litost (subs) I still like to pretend its real
@ragalyiakos
@ragalyiakos Жыл бұрын
Now I'm actually wondering how many people, while playing this game, exactly hit some one-in-a-million shot through one of these gaps and exclaimed "Oh come on, I definitely hit that guy, what is this hitreg?!"
@timeslessgun
@timeslessgun 3 жыл бұрын
The spy hitbox is actually somewhat problematic, because for a game 14 years old i'm sure multiple snipers have questioned their skills by "missing" the centered bodyshot they just did, that could have potentially changed the way a game goes.
@freddiekruger3339
@freddiekruger3339 3 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck bodyshots a spy
@oikakyoin2595
@oikakyoin2595 3 жыл бұрын
Hitting a body shot isn't really that skillful lol
@vyor8837
@vyor8837 3 жыл бұрын
@@oikakyoin2595 depends on the situation
@stitchfinger7678
@stitchfinger7678 3 жыл бұрын
@@oikakyoin2595 not the point but ok
@eltiolavara9
@eltiolavara9 3 жыл бұрын
no its not
@Kevin-jb2pv
@Kevin-jb2pv 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Sniper has crazy wide hit boxes that extend well beyond the bounds of his model.
@M30W3R
@M30W3R 3 жыл бұрын
I'm willing to bet that this was done on purpose to make sure that Sniper vs Sniper duels would end much quicker and that you could actually pepper Sniper from a distance if he was being annoying
@Mutaburasaurus
@Mutaburasaurus 3 жыл бұрын
All their bloody heads look bloody twelve feet tall.
@kyonghuni
@kyonghuni 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mutaburasaurus best comment so far
@KicksPregnantWomen
@KicksPregnantWomen 2 жыл бұрын
good, fuck sniper
@psycholonya
@psycholonya Жыл бұрын
it probably has something to do with him being one of the slimmest models, especially when holding the rifle
@dahscreamingeagle3473
@dahscreamingeagle3473 3 жыл бұрын
i love how scout's backpack has a hitbox too, meaning the backpack might be a fisical part from him
@nikoproto
@nikoproto 3 жыл бұрын
yay! time to use this to explain that im not just bad
@BottleWaterson
@BottleWaterson 3 жыл бұрын
on the flipside, missing 2 boxes in such a precise matter means your godlike to do so.
@Setanta077
@Setanta077 3 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp
@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Niko pfp!
@notimportant4804
@notimportant4804 3 жыл бұрын
i dont see the problem just dont shoot through the gaps in the hitbox
@mibbleyt
@mibbleyt 3 жыл бұрын
nikoo
@omegasynth2775
@omegasynth2775 3 жыл бұрын
Can we just "appreciate" how Scout's bag is apparently technically part of his body?
@vcd5841
@vcd5841 3 жыл бұрын
It's where he keeps all his organs
@reminy13
@reminy13 3 жыл бұрын
@@vcd5841 dear god
@blitz_johan1242
@blitz_johan1242 3 жыл бұрын
@@vcd5841 so if i “carefully” remove his bag, he should die and i can collect his head for my killstreak eyelander
@potatoslayer69420
@potatoslayer69420 3 жыл бұрын
@@blitz_johan1242 yes
@funkyoa
@funkyoa 3 жыл бұрын
pee is stored in the bag
@Cru128
@Cru128 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he says probably, when I’m the most incompetent man you could ever get for marksmanship.
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan 3 жыл бұрын
welcome back to another episode of shounic ruining Snipers' lives by telling people to stare at the sky
@disc_00
@disc_00 3 жыл бұрын
Because fuck em, that's why
@arthuro1189
@arthuro1189 3 жыл бұрын
Ruining sniper's lives? GOOD.
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan 3 жыл бұрын
I love these replies, keep them coming
@mekhane.broken9678
@mekhane.broken9678 3 жыл бұрын
Sniper deserves it.
@ma3oxvict727
@ma3oxvict727 3 жыл бұрын
Snipers with rifles, because snopers with bows now can shoot air to headshot
@festiveobeliskus
@festiveobeliskus 3 жыл бұрын
pretty smart of the mercs to have their vital organs right between their hitboxes
@NatilCort
@NatilCort 3 жыл бұрын
0:11 *When Spy Had Enough*
@LoveSickWorld
@LoveSickWorld 3 жыл бұрын
So maybe, at least one of those times, when you call out "BUT I SHOT HIM" you just may have threaded through the hit boxes
@vinnyandlin8510
@vinnyandlin8510 3 жыл бұрын
"How the fuck did that not register as a hit?"
@laziness6641
@laziness6641 3 жыл бұрын
So all my time as spy? Good, I'll be going back to other classes
@defalttheloner
@defalttheloner 2 жыл бұрын
So one could end up being too precise? Totally suffering from success moment here
@LoveSickWorld
@LoveSickWorld 2 жыл бұрын
@@defalttheloner To reach perfection, and denied a victory, is this our fate?
@defalttheloner
@defalttheloner 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoveSickWorld the better you play the least fun you have...we are dammed and deny that it seems
@the_dogey
@the_dogey 3 жыл бұрын
Your chances of getting a critical miss is slim. But never zero.
@psy-fi64
@psy-fi64 3 жыл бұрын
Critical miss lmao
@SEX_TRAINER
@SEX_TRAINER 3 жыл бұрын
@@psy-fi64 lmao lol xd
@SEX_TRAINER
@SEX_TRAINER 3 жыл бұрын
@@psy-fi64 funny haha
@congospartan3425
@congospartan3425 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gawd bro CSGO critical misses they r so god awful
@kevinaosei
@kevinaosei 3 жыл бұрын
Xcom moment
@electrical_fan
@electrical_fan 3 жыл бұрын
1:28 call of duty
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast 3 жыл бұрын
It looks surprisingly easy to accidentally hit some of these spots with enough play
@Yodah97
@Yodah97 3 жыл бұрын
Especially with weapons like Sniper's rifle and Scout's shotgun. In the shotgun case it would mean you deal less damage because some pellets slipped through the cracks.
@buzzlightyearpfp7641
@buzzlightyearpfp7641 2 жыл бұрын
On a moving target though? One constantly rotating and performing different animations? No chance
@someidiotwithafryingpan3752
@someidiotwithafryingpan3752 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmm*maybe*, but Tf2’s generally such a fast-paced and chaotic game that you’re pretty unlikely to notice it. Only a few weapons aren’t rapid-fire, explosions, fire, projectiles, or have multiple pellets, so the only things I can see it happening with and you potentially (that’s a BIG potentially) noticing with are sniper rifles and maybe revolvers.
@daanstrik4293
@daanstrik4293 2 жыл бұрын
@@buzzlightyearpfp7641 not for most players no. But look how many players there are And how many matches they play And how often they get shot in such a match. Its common enough to be a daily occurance
@Kirito_2016
@Kirito_2016 2 жыл бұрын
@@buzzlightyearpfp7641 No one could intentionally do it, (unless they knew the hitbox layout and they caught someone afk) But just through pure chance, with how many hours people play, it's bound to happen all the time. The player prolly just blames hitreg, or maybe rollback? Idk how TF2's severs work. Regardless, it doesn't happen enough for people to notice, but it definitely happens.
@Thornskade
@Thornskade 3 жыл бұрын
Engineer's Hitboxes used to not cover his pelvis at all, so shooting him in the ding would do no damage. Valve eventually fixed that not too long ago, though I doubt they're ever going to take the time to fix these small gaps during certain poses
@eltiolavara9
@eltiolavara9 3 жыл бұрын
theyre not an issue anyways, fixing them would break way more stuff
@kerosenn7016
@kerosenn7016 3 жыл бұрын
@@eltiolavara9 no it wouldn’t this is actually a stupidly simple problem to fix.
@kerosenn7016
@kerosenn7016 3 жыл бұрын
@@eltiolavara9 All you would need to do is decompile the MDL of the classes using crowbar. Open the qc with notepad ++. Open the MDL with HLMV. Enlarge the spine 1 and spine 2 hit boxes by literally by 1y or 2y than what’s already there. Generate hit box info from hlmv and replace the hit box info in the qc with that. You just then need to recompile it in the correct directory.
@kerosenn7016
@kerosenn7016 3 жыл бұрын
Reasoning behind this is that MDL files are compiled models with qc commands that define that model along with other information. So basically it’s hit box can be literally just fixed by increasing the hitbox spine values slightly and replacing the old MDL.
@Thornskade
@Thornskade 3 жыл бұрын
@@kerosenn7016 You're right, this wouldn't break anything, but it would take a lot of work to get right. You'd habe to check every single pose and how it transforms the boxes, or if you added more boxes for the in-betweens the game would be slightly less performant.
@upsidedown-pug1974
@upsidedown-pug1974 Жыл бұрын
I'm just imagining a TF2 animation where a spy dodges a bullet by just not moving
@MYG
@MYG 3 жыл бұрын
"I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet." - Heavy
@TheDandelionSniper
@TheDandelionSniper 3 жыл бұрын
One bullet can be outsmarted many no.
@TheManinBlack9054
@TheManinBlack9054 3 жыл бұрын
They have finally outsmarted bullet
@ztoogemcducc6360
@ztoogemcducc6360 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the engineer have an "invincible" groin for years?
@BComet
@BComet 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, he had a decent sized hitbox gap on his crotch for a long time.
@hoonterofhoonters6588
@hoonterofhoonters6588 3 жыл бұрын
He obviously replaced his balls with steel until Valve nerfed his junk.
@seokkyunhong8812
@seokkyunhong8812 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just "lore" for baggy pants
@vxidwvlkxr
@vxidwvlkxr 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that was the Short Circuit :^]]]]]]]]]
@Elixirs_mp4
@Elixirs_mp4 2 жыл бұрын
TF2 so innovative they included quantum mechanics!
@SirMatthew
@SirMatthew 3 жыл бұрын
So the spy, standing still, looking forward, with his primary out has a massive gap in the hitbox and nobody noticed
@Tetr1s
@Tetr1s 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, there will never be an update for this
@whataday9042
@whataday9042 3 жыл бұрын
yes, someday...
@jdr9519
@jdr9519 3 жыл бұрын
@@whataday9042 no there won’t?
@whataday9042
@whataday9042 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdr9519 oops didn't see that 'never' word. thx
@breadiztasty
@breadiztasty 3 жыл бұрын
They did update that one time when they caught the engie not having a hitbox on his groin though
@Qobp
@Qobp 2 жыл бұрын
@@breadiztasty so next decade they might add a hitbox to spys heart
@bruhmoment8548
@bruhmoment8548 3 жыл бұрын
With the shit the mercenarys have gone through. I'm not surprised that they have holes in them
@swallow_skyla3602
@swallow_skyla3602 3 жыл бұрын
So Spycrabs knew this all along, and were making themselves immune to Sniper shots
@nogitsunegaming
@nogitsunegaming 3 жыл бұрын
This seems like something that would be incredibly easy to fix. Like with the ease where you just crack open the model and can edit the hit boxes in -seconds- it seems like this is a fix that would take all of like... Idk... 20 minutes to implement?
@VIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAME
@VIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAME 3 жыл бұрын
We will not fix it
@hypersans6209
@hypersans6209 3 жыл бұрын
Smarter fix would be to create hitbox joint verticies, where there are set of 4 verticies defined for each bone, and a 6 sided prism created to connect those sets of verticies. Then you could just do collisions with that new geometry. Makes for a more dynamic hitbox and gets rid of holes
@aneeveewhohasinternet1871
@aneeveewhohasinternet1871 3 жыл бұрын
If hitboxes overlapped i think it would trigger twice doing double damage? Maybe I'm wrong
@nogitsunegaming
@nogitsunegaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@aneeveewhohasinternet1871 dudes got a hitbox tool, one way to find out~
@VIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAME
@VIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAMEVIDEOGAME 3 жыл бұрын
@@aneeveewhohasinternet1871 No, because I think the first hitbox to be hit would stop the bullet, since if someone is standing inside another person and one person gets shot they don't both take damage.
@Micha-Hil
@Micha-Hil Ай бұрын
0:26 🔥🔥🔥 YOOO SHOUNIC GOT BARS
@breadbucket66
@breadbucket66 3 жыл бұрын
WHY DOES SCOUT HAVE A HITBOX ON HIS BAG edit:i guess its a friend of the pyro gas can
@mr.personalspace7831
@mr.personalspace7831 3 жыл бұрын
He has the item Isaac’s Heart in his bag.
@thomas-cr4vy
@thomas-cr4vy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.personalspace7831 this is why you don't pick up items with curse of the blind
@companioncube4232
@companioncube4232 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.personalspace7831 smh isaac's heart is so bugged
@iegendary-r8r
@iegendary-r8r 3 жыл бұрын
lol love to see some tboi references
@Eira_
@Eira_ 3 жыл бұрын
That's where his vital organs are
@griffinbastion
@griffinbastion 3 жыл бұрын
imagine being a medic healing your teammate and getting shot through your teammate's chest
@toxic_shr00m
@toxic_shr00m 3 жыл бұрын
And you're on a slight slope so it's a headshot
@ripoutyourintestines5099
@ripoutyourintestines5099 3 жыл бұрын
WW1 was wild, this probably happened.
@griffinbastion
@griffinbastion 3 жыл бұрын
@@ripoutyourintestines5099 more likely ww2 since in ww2 people commited more war crimes, and shooting near medical staff was a big no no for a long long time
@renthewerecat
@renthewerecat Жыл бұрын
knowing my luck i have been constantly shooting through these gaps
@sassytabasco
@sassytabasco 3 жыл бұрын
"You'll probably never be unlucky enough to hit them" I disagree, I think this revelation is pretty painful for pick classes that rely on hit scan weapons. The chance for Sniper to miss is probably a lot greater than every other class, but a particularly good sniper will likely just aim for the head, so no big. But that does explain shotgun based damage problems. (Well, along with random spread. Valve sure are bad at stuff sometimes.)
@nightblade178
@nightblade178 3 жыл бұрын
There must be countless bullets from shotguns that have managed to sneak in these cracks. Since u aim at the torso usually
@kabhes9040
@kabhes9040 3 жыл бұрын
this is how most hitboxes work in other video games
@kabhes9040
@kabhes9040 2 жыл бұрын
@1998SIMOMEGA I just did and I was right.
@yeyo1019
@yeyo1019 2 жыл бұрын
@1998SIMOMEGA It's how most game's hitboxes work my dude, now in modern times developers have decided to make hitboxes that are identical or more closely resemble the player model (note that this is more prominent in modern fps) even then things like fighting games still use the classic box system (unless you're mortal kombat) and other games that don't require crazy amounts of precision also still use a system similar to tf2
@hazelv.a.7976
@hazelv.a.7976 2 жыл бұрын
Random spread isn't a bad thing.
@ya_boi_salami
@ya_boi_salami 3 жыл бұрын
csgo changed its hitbox shape to round cylindrical capsules a few years ago to better fit the models, with their roundness they shouldn't have much in the way of gaps when they rotate, like when looking up or down, at least compared to boxes. I wonder if tf2 would benefit from the same treatment
@SchemingGoldberg
@SchemingGoldberg 3 жыл бұрын
Or... Valve could just make the torso hitboxes taller. The arm and leg hitboxes are fine, and the head hitbox is fine, it's only the torso ones that are too small.
@lev7509
@lev7509 3 жыл бұрын
@@SchemingGoldberg ...on the other hand, the torso bending forwards or backwards would cause the increase in the hitbox heights to pop out of the torso on the side that's stretched. Which could make for some weird shots... In any case, the gap in spy's chest still needs fixing.
@spartanwar1185
@spartanwar1185 3 жыл бұрын
I think making the hit zones spherical is a perfect solution, dunno why one would go with anything else
@jadp.5008
@jadp.5008 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the title. Short and straight to the point.
@MatridoxRBLX
@MatridoxRBLX 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I've body shotted so many players and 'miss' so many times. I always thought it was just me not paying attention to where my crosshair was, but this could be the reason, too.
@Ngcdswii
@Ngcdswii 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! So many times I could have sworn I was aiming right at them. For me it happens mostly with the revolver
@MatridoxRBLX
@MatridoxRBLX 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ngcdswii Yeah but generally the hitreg with spy's revolvers suck. Glad to not be the only one who notices the blatant bodyshots 'missing', though.
@Zorro9129
@Zorro9129 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile those are colossal head hitboxes, and apparently Scout's bag counts as a hitbox!
@OnuatheZorua
@OnuatheZorua 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Team Fortress 2. After nine years in development, hopefully it will have been worth the wait.
@VickMcbread
@VickMcbread 3 жыл бұрын
Winning the lottery is technically possible. I dare anyone to show me a clip of this happening and the player getting robbed and dies in the process (in a real game, like casual or a 24/7 hightower)
@satoruriolu6132
@satoruriolu6132 3 жыл бұрын
There's plenty out there
@guitarninja416
@guitarninja416 3 жыл бұрын
the spy one can happen a lot
@ohitsrusher842
@ohitsrusher842 3 жыл бұрын
Shotguns.
@EdwardChan.999
@EdwardChan.999 3 жыл бұрын
I use Machina a lot and this happened a few times before
@VickMcbread
@VickMcbread 3 жыл бұрын
@@satoruriolu6132 show me. I'm serious. Show me any of them
@thegamingman-ye2ec
@thegamingman-ye2ec Жыл бұрын
"as we all know, if i shoot man with gun, he takes damage." -a wise man i think
@MrDirt
@MrDirt 3 жыл бұрын
Well these are all very rare edge cases except for the spy. This chest gab is huge.
@bunzen0kantzen
@bunzen0kantzen 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if an AI got so good at TF2, it would move the mouse so that every bullet heading towards them missed through the gaps in the hitbox.
@ProOrLooser
@ProOrLooser 3 жыл бұрын
Don't need an AI for that you could make an aimbot that does that already
@vez3834
@vez3834 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProOrLooser Aimbot that dodges bullets? (He wasn't talking about Aimbot missing bullets)
@ProOrLooser
@ProOrLooser 3 жыл бұрын
@@vez3834 oh my bad, I guess I misunderstood, that wouldn't even be possible with some crazy AI because of the way hitscan works, and the projectile based weapons all have too big of a hitbox to even fit in the gap I think.
@reminy13
@reminy13 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think that could work cause you can move your aim faster than a player can move
@laziness6641
@laziness6641 3 жыл бұрын
Nah there are certain spaces, that are guaranteed hits I think. If there are, then you'd aim for that and an AI can't just go faster because of perfect inputs so even they couldn't just move to dodge, meaning then they'll die
@Tr0lliPop
@Tr0lliPop 2 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly more surprised that scout's bag (duffelbag? backpack?) has a hitbox.
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 Жыл бұрын
Definitely, just like Pyro's has canister also has one. These 2 objects should definitely not injure the actual person if hit
@Tr0lliPop
@Tr0lliPop Жыл бұрын
@@theshermantanker7043 I mean If we go by realism then shooting pyros canister should instantly explode him tbh.
@Narvin69
@Narvin69 Жыл бұрын
The type of bag is called messenger sling bag :>
@puffyvulva
@puffyvulva 3 жыл бұрын
Well this at least partially explains how I manage to miss shots clearly in the torso and hit nonsense headshots. I never realized the head hitboxes were that big either. I also wonder how many times scouts have died in 1v1 to an enemy that left with single digit health were just because a pellet or two flew through the gap in the hitboxes.
@DEWILL
@DEWILL 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, one more excuse I can use when I lose the fight against a Spy
@boraberkil7038
@boraberkil7038 2 жыл бұрын
*violently spilling their guts out* relaxing music
@Vinworld
@Vinworld 3 жыл бұрын
I love how straight forward the video is, there is no intro/outro or anything its just the meat of the video except i dont have the skip ahead a minute and a half
@jonsku6662
@jonsku6662 3 жыл бұрын
Heavy: "It is good day to be not ded!" Engi: "Pow! You are ded!" Heavy('s hitbox): "... You didn't even hit me." Engi: "Come on! That's bullshit!"
@TheBreakingBenny
@TheBreakingBenny 3 жыл бұрын
Another good ending!!!
@supertrinigamer
@supertrinigamer 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to use the voice synthesiser and do this
@The3xtr3m3
@The3xtr3m3 Жыл бұрын
So that’s why I can’t ever hit anyone, I’m shooting the holes in the hitboxes
@rawccoon
@rawccoon 3 жыл бұрын
next time a whiff an easy shot, i'll just say it was because i was so accurate i managed to shoot the subatomic space between the enemy's hitboxes
@gloom5405
@gloom5405 3 жыл бұрын
"If i shoot a man with gun,he takes damage" -Shun Tzu,Art of War
@faz2k
@faz2k 3 жыл бұрын
shoot man, not a man. Please.
@koenvandamme6901
@koenvandamme6901 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the quote from the original is "Gun go bang, man go auchie."
@atruepanda1782
@atruepanda1782 2 жыл бұрын
I know that these holes are small and have probably actually mattered like 3 times in the entirety of matches of tf2, but from a game design standpoint those things are *massive.* Holes that size should never be there, they are ridiculously big. The only reason I think they haven't been found before is that most weapons in tf2 fire multiple bullets and random bullet spread is enabled by default, making bullets go in all sort of different places
@pater7387
@pater7387 3 жыл бұрын
All this analisis makes me wonder how the Dragon’s Fury works since blue moon. Whats is the center of the fireball? Does it shoot a sphere? A box? Does it come into contact with the player ECB or Hitscan hitbox? Why does nobody use it?
@OmegaRC59
@OmegaRC59 3 жыл бұрын
You can see the hitbox with tf_fireball_debug iirc, which shows it as a sphere (it's been a few years but it should be named similarly enough you can find it). I'd assume it just uses the bounding box collision and checks if the origin of the fireball touches it at any point. As for why nobody uses it, idk. I use it basically any time I'm not on maps with huge props and map object bounding boxes that block the fireball and there's sentry nests, it's good at it. Just wish I could use it on badwater last lol
@Vizaru
@Vizaru 3 жыл бұрын
one major reason dragons fury isn't used is because the airblast cooldown is exceptionally bad. the backburner is more competent at airblasting, as an ammo penalty is less bad than waiting 1.6 seconds for any follow up.
@OmegaRC59
@OmegaRC59 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vizaru Yeah, it's pretty bad at airblasting, but the upsides of being able to do power class levels of damage and take out sentry nests reliably if not better than other classes situationally I think would give it a solid spot if the stupid prop bounding box bug didn't exist. I've been using it a ton recently and if you compensate for the airblast by playing more traditionally and only using it as a last resort or to save someone it's not the biggest hindrance to you, you just fulfill an attack oriented role that Pyro can't fulfill with a normal flamethrower
@seokkyunhong8812
@seokkyunhong8812 3 жыл бұрын
@@OmegaRC59 I feel like your team is bit scuffed if pyro is handling demolition duty
@OmegaRC59
@OmegaRC59 3 жыл бұрын
@@seokkyunhong8812 Not exactly, it actually pairs really well with your other demolition classes to use the DF alongside them. You get reduced team support from airblasting, but 75 damage, insane projectile speed, and a fast as fuck firing speed without reloading is hard to argue with if you're taking down a nest within DF range. Try it sometime. The lack of downtime is what really tips this weapon as a sentry buster into being stronger that Soldier and Demo in the right circumstances. However if your normal flamethrower pyros are having to do this, yeah, that's a problem. The DF is more a weapon to pick if you want to help out as Pyro against a heavily guarded nest, and while some great offensive capability against players in general. If you're too far though you'd be way better off picking other classes for it. It's situational and not a weapon to run full-time, but very strong in the circumstances that it benefits from
@bigmoneyben08
@bigmoneyben08 3 жыл бұрын
1:01 Huntsman hitbox be like:
@Pigeon5487
@Pigeon5487 3 ай бұрын
Thanks now I have something to blame my bad aim on
@paul-andreiionescu5412
@paul-andreiionescu5412 3 жыл бұрын
firends: did u miss your shot? me in tf2 from now on: no, I hit the gaps in their hitboxes B)
@Crow_Rising
@Crow_Rising 3 жыл бұрын
The more I watch this channel the more I question how issues like this could have existed for so long without being fixed. I can only assume it's because of code spaghetti and the fear associated with trying to fix things that are part of such a delicate balance of everything being just barely functional.
@Hitoshuratdn
@Hitoshuratdn 2 жыл бұрын
Simple, because this is valve.
@AbdullahEkici34
@AbdullahEkici34 2 жыл бұрын
They actually have to add boxes with their body shape . But I think that's bit hard.
@AfraidMonsters
@AfraidMonsters 3 жыл бұрын
There’s so many times where I literally shoot right at enemy spies as spy, or other classes but usually enemy spy, and lots of my shots completely misses them despite shooting right at them multiple times.
@Kylirr
@Kylirr 3 жыл бұрын
If you're a spy using the revolver that's more likely the revolver's random spread, which makes it awfully inaccurate.
@Flynn217something
@Flynn217something 3 жыл бұрын
Me: misses shot Shounic: uploads Me: Don't do that, don't give me hope
@Chatito.0s
@Chatito.0s 10 ай бұрын
I am not crazy...I just - I just couldn't prove it. Chuck Mcgill.
@MaikoRules
@MaikoRules 3 жыл бұрын
"Spy's hacking!" "No dude. He's just looking up"
@ozymandiaskingofkings3484
@ozymandiaskingofkings3484 3 жыл бұрын
Pyro: "You missed, Spy. It's over." Spy: "I wasn't aiming for you. I was aiming THROUGH you." Pyro: "N-nani?!"
@godofportal5905
@godofportal5905 Жыл бұрын
what it actually sounded like Pyro: Mmm mmmm mm. mm mm Spy: I wasn't aiming for you. I was aiming THROUGH you. Pyro: M-mmm?!!?
@Sir-Prizse
@Sir-Prizse 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the video was worth it just for this awesome synthwave music.
@mikonson4091
@mikonson4091 3 жыл бұрын
1:42 "You probably wont ever be unlucky enough to shoot through these gaps" Yeah, about that...
@thegregorys7800
@thegregorys7800 Ай бұрын
BIG SAD
@Chocc_Ice
@Chocc_Ice 3 жыл бұрын
Running away while looking up is even better than we thought, you can block your head with your arm and create gaps in your hitbox
@tehepicnoob6214
@tehepicnoob6214 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine going Matrix mode and going in such positions that all bullets miss you
@scottycz4918
@scottycz4918 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand how TF2 can be so flawed yet work so perfectly.
@bloc4473
@bloc4473 3 жыл бұрын
neither do the devs LOL
@kapitanbach7411
@kapitanbach7411 3 жыл бұрын
@v1QzKxC4 Sounds like someone is trying to get some attention
@vinnae
@vinnae 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think TF2 works perfectly. All of shounic's videos prove that the game works like it's being held together by just tape and cardboard.
@scottycz4918
@scottycz4918 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinnae I know, but it works, doesn't it? It has held together for 14 years.
@scottycz4918
@scottycz4918 3 жыл бұрын
@v1QzKxC4 Calm down, attention hog.
@TheCptnOfFail
@TheCptnOfFail 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many other games have hitboxes like this and how often it might be the cause of "ghost" bullets. Probably not often as most of the games I can think of are in need of a network rework.
@Bestgameplayer10
@Bestgameplayer10 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think TF2 is a worst case scenario in regards to a “AAA” release. Or even indie release my today’s standard. Some games have their hitbox quirks but none with such glaring gaps like TF2’s with further inspection.
@maxgaming5225
@maxgaming5225 Жыл бұрын
I was memeing with machina body shots and I went for a spy You can probably tell what happened
@user-jq4jq5qd4m
@user-jq4jq5qd4m 3 жыл бұрын
“You can miss a shot just from there being a gap in it” *laughs in soldier main*
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