No I swear I didn't plagiarize this idea. I've been working for weeks on it please don't hit me ahh I didn't mean it. Discord: / discord Elmaxo's video (also really good!): • Scout's Most Underrate...
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@elmaxoTF22 жыл бұрын
You definitely covered a lot of the holes I had in my video about item synergies, discussion about Atomizer and even more gamer spots (which I will be stealing ty). I really enjoyed!
@travisjones31202 жыл бұрын
Loved your vid on the winger
@BoneyCheeks2 жыл бұрын
Elmaxo, the best part of the vid is 6:56
@Nameless_Cat_IsAGoodGame2 жыл бұрын
I just knew you were gonna show up lol
@justagamer11602 жыл бұрын
both videos are good
@noble_jpg9932 жыл бұрын
Loved your video elmaxo
@eduardpeeterlemming2 жыл бұрын
"There's alot of weapons in tf2." shows off his pompson collection
@Real_temmie_undertalo2 жыл бұрын
It's the best way to show dominance
@novaspion23282 жыл бұрын
The Pomson has definitely gotta be one of the weapons in tf2
@gregorymirabella14232 жыл бұрын
@@novaspion2328 indeed it is.
@MineralEater2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it is possible to get a collecter pompson or something
@padriazozzriaorizifian86722 жыл бұрын
@@novaspion2328 no it’s about 6000 of the weapons in tf2
@fruitpigenthusiast1202 жыл бұрын
When he pauses about a minute in where he dies, you can see Archimedes flying out of his body
@bow-892 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Engieneer_gaming2 жыл бұрын
It s rare to happens, he was lucky
@rovercat1067 Жыл бұрын
It’s cool the developers made a reference to meet the medic.
@pablotf29012 жыл бұрын
The winger in times 100 mode is insane, it’s a one shot on all classes and you get a really high jump
@zoecient26 Жыл бұрын
to the top of highertower we go
@codman09 Жыл бұрын
well of course evrething is is better on TF2 100
@hazeltree7738 Жыл бұрын
@@codman09 Tell that to the scotsman's skullcutter And the brass beast And the eviction notice And anything that negatively impacts your health/speed
@NothingMeansNothingButNothing Жыл бұрын
@@hazeltree7738Kunai be like: Hi there
@Necrandy Жыл бұрын
uhh actually its x100 🤓
@juliusfrank33492 жыл бұрын
It's pedantic, but if both of your jumps are increased by 25%, your total jump height is still increased by 25%, not 50%. (to illustrate this, imagine each of your jumps gives 1m height for a total jump height of 2m. If we increase that by 25% to 1.25m, your total max height will be 2.5m, 25% more than 2m.)
@bad61842 жыл бұрын
Yes
@blacklight6832 жыл бұрын
I said this before you and No one cared why thay care to your comment D:(
@abalyon70432 жыл бұрын
M A T H
@maildaemon2 жыл бұрын
ty for the maths
@blacklight6832 жыл бұрын
@@pointlessangle2149 oh right my luck is the worst 🤔😑
@mmmapplesauce16732 жыл бұрын
I truly think the winger’s damage should be 25%. Makes it better at a burst damage part.
@Drunken_Hamster2 жыл бұрын
That AND -50% clip size instead of -60%
@pot6577 Жыл бұрын
wayy to op
@AlexDoubleAU Жыл бұрын
@@pot6577 yeeeeeeeeah no... That would still be pretty balanced as long as you keep the clip size.
@Gooby10242 жыл бұрын
Secret ability: if high enough you can stomp people with the winger
@Eon_orange2 жыл бұрын
Stomp? Like the mantreads?
@Gooby10242 жыл бұрын
@@Eon_orange yup
@guaxinimdomato58252 жыл бұрын
@@Gooby1024 any video showcasing it?
@hakermanreal2 жыл бұрын
@@guaxinimdomato5825 yeah right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6DSimaCq8h7lbc
@guaxinimdomato58252 жыл бұрын
@@hakermanreal on how many videos did you reply with this link?
@Spiffyo2 жыл бұрын
I think the Winger is underrated due to scouts other secondaries. Unlike his Primaries, he has two that are straight up overpowered, which are the Mad Milk and Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol, and a sidegrade to his Pistol for it to compete with balance-wise is the Flying Guillotine(No more a finisher, and now another burst damage option with gradual damage debuff).
@TrouserSnivy2 жыл бұрын
Guillotine is banned in sixes and was on the chopping block for HL until HL took a super liberal turn on scout's whitelist. It is in no way competing with the pistol balance-wise, it is better than the pistol in a way that oversteps scout's boundaries as a class.
@Spiffyo2 жыл бұрын
@@TrouserSnivy Its another burst damage tool, in replacement of a finisher, annoyance, or sentry killer. The ban in 6s is justified since it's a good tool to weaken an enemy and then blast them with a meatshot or 2, though all but the stock and winger is banned.
@maildaemon2 жыл бұрын
@@Spiffyo That's 6s for you, very restrictive (imo, to a fault)
@Spiffyo2 жыл бұрын
They're all justified in one way or another. Bonk is banned due to on demand invincibility with a downside you can brush off in a safe spot. Mad milk is because the thing is actually overpowered. Crit-a-cola because you reliably two shot demo and soldier while they can't do a whole lot against a very skilled scout. Guillotine is just a easily spammable tool that doesn't have a huge enough cost. And PBPP just because it's a upgrade from stock.
@TrouserSnivy2 жыл бұрын
@@Spiffyo not only is it easily spammable, it does 90 total damage and bleed ticks down way faster than burn so it's pretty much assured on anyone not actively being healed. You win 1v1s the moment your cleaver makes contact with someone as it will make you able to oneshot any non-soldier class from full with your scattergun. Soldier isn't left with enough health to do anything if you meatshot him once with it. BONK and crit-a-cola just breed degenerative gameplay same as the disciplinary action. Pocket pistol, cleaver and milk are all overpowered
@Qaos2 жыл бұрын
The Winger is my go-to scout secondary, personally, and has been since I unlocked it. I can't hit my shots for shit (on any weapon), but the added mobility is fucking incredible.
@AlexDoubleAU Жыл бұрын
Are you me?
@rovercat1067 Жыл бұрын
Same
@senero31212 жыл бұрын
I love that Anthony Fantano reference. I'm thinking a strong 10 on this video, tran-sition...
@icegubbins2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. THE WINGER IS MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE, AND NEED MORE LOVE
@aetu352 жыл бұрын
I use the winger a lot with the Soda Popper, since higher jumps with hype gives you stupid mobility.
@codman09 Жыл бұрын
me too gud combo
@LiterallyJustOVEN2 жыл бұрын
Ayyy, finally somebody appreciates the winger.
@applemango86242 жыл бұрын
IT’S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE ELSE GAVE THE WINGER THE RESPECT IT DAMN WELL DESERVES
@facepalm67682 жыл бұрын
9:28 "the slower clip size" *Speech: 100*
@thepangoddess19142 жыл бұрын
you know it's funny cuz the weapon is called ''the winger'' and it's a pistol with tiny wings on it, fuckin love it
@gamingtmans66922 жыл бұрын
"Most underused weapon" That would 100% be the candy cane, no meme value and a crippling downside
@thatguybrody48192 жыл бұрын
i found a meme value. scoutknight. use it with the milk for damage sponginess with medkit on kill so you can stay alive for longer than you have any right to and the force-a-nature for purely mobility (or against sentries as a last resort)
@femboytoast2 жыл бұрын
The candy cane is actually good scouts should be able to dodge
@CannedPsycho-2 жыл бұрын
My kit is usually Backscatter, Winger, and Candy. Only chose it because people don't usually use those weapons. But it's surprisingly good if you're a lone flank scout because the Winger let's you flank easier, the Backscatter does more damage (on the first shot), and the Candy cane let's you heal up after a fight if you took non-explosive damage.
@asperjoe2 жыл бұрын
Commenting before elmaxo finds out...
@tonyf34312 жыл бұрын
the deja vu hit me harder than a Force-a-Nature meatshot
@HaydenX Жыл бұрын
The Shortstop pairs especially well with the Winger for another reason beyond just sentries: the bonus jump height allows you to reach new places as mentioned...but it also allows you to start engagements from the high ground when used with the Shortstop due to it's higher damage at range.
@andryemkha62322 жыл бұрын
I actually use the winger a lot, on the anti-heavy lodout which have the soda popper, the winger and the fan'o'war. You hit him once with your melee, then get two close shots and he is dead, if he is still alive the winger does a lot of damage quickly so its perfect. And also I usually have one mobility tool either its the force of nature, the atomiser or the winger.
@mirrormirk56312 жыл бұрын
I've been a winger enthusiast for a while now, and I can hardly hit pistol shots so I really appreciate that mobility
@BJCaasenbrood2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've been using the winger non-stop recently. It's indeed a underrated weapon and most player are completely caught off guard with the extra jump height during dodging. The small clipsize is indeed a huge con, but closing the distance helps a lot. I don't know why, but i can out put more consistent damage with the winger than the pistol. I guess the increased shooting speed benefits some players more than larger clipsize.
@grummdoesstuff29832 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: with both the winger and shortstop, if you constantly hold the fire button, you will be spending more time reloading than shooting.
@Ryusuta2 жыл бұрын
More fun fact: That would also be the case if you were using literally any other Scout primary. Not sure why you singled out the Shortstop, when it reloads the second-fastest of all the Scout primaries, bullet-for-bullet.
@TheDoc_K Жыл бұрын
@@Ryusuta Because it has the second lowest amount of loaded ammo (4) and is not the fastest reloading primary for Scout.
@Ryusuta Жыл бұрын
@@TheDoc_K You say "tied for second-lowest" like it means something, when literally only the default Scattergun currently has a larger magazine size. All other primaries have equal or fewer shots then the Shortstop; and apart from the Soda Popper, all of them reload a full magazine slower than the Shortstop.
@balintkurucz72452 жыл бұрын
I used to use the Winger a lot, it was great fun, but I found the PBPP's health regen more important. I still use the Soda Popper for mobility, and the PBPP (and Candy Cane) helps me stay alive for long enough to build the hype meter.
@Fyre_Rose2 жыл бұрын
Glad this weapon is starting to get some love. It's been my main secondary for scout since it got the jump height boost, so good. i have recently started using the pocket pistol though, that increased fire rate is awesome at times :P
@Recarsonated2 жыл бұрын
I think it should have a faster switching speed to make up for the atomizer’s downside, if they did i probably would only use the number 1 fan set and rarely anything else, lmao
@Leo-wx2wv2 жыл бұрын
The start made me wheeze and laugh uncontrollably, thank you sir
@vesstig2 жыл бұрын
That Windows XP reboot was so much of a change that my neck nearly broke from the unexpected change, I love it
@TimTomTem2 жыл бұрын
Good points but you forgot the most important benefit of winger over stock which is that it looks cooler.
@drilldasher2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I like the Backscatter. For real tho, good job lad!
@brandonhughes40762 жыл бұрын
Before they changed the atomizer to only give the 3rd jump while fully deployed, I used to absolutely adore the Force-a-nature/Winger/Atomizer combo. There was not a place on earth you could not reach. Obviously it had it's downsides and wasn't what someone would use for competitive scout play, but it was so god damn fun
@saltyvgn51032 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!
@mythmakroxymore16702 жыл бұрын
besides elmaxo, the last mention i've heard of the winger was from Soundsmith, he said he used it in conjunction with the Forc-a-nature for scaling obstacles, which is pretty cool. i remember him saying something about really enjoying unique movement options.
@catree57002 жыл бұрын
I messed around on harvest offline with the winger and the jumps you can make are absurd. I made a jump from the health shed (either side) onto the cap barn
@JblockerJ Жыл бұрын
I've been using the winger for a while now and it's very useful on *certain* maps. Harvest and Hightower are my favorite maps to use it on.
@aimrurt2 жыл бұрын
Been getting more into using this, I don't use the jump height as much as longer ranged picks with it
@severketorskeleton37592 жыл бұрын
you manualy spun the weapons, best channel ever
@schniemand2 жыл бұрын
I recently found out that the 25% jump height bonus is actually a 56.25% jump height bonus. What it increases by 25% is the jump velocity, but the effect of that on jump height is squared. It increases the perfect double jump + crouch max height from 117 HU to 171 HU, which is a pretty big increase. This applies to MvM jump height upgrades, too. Buying 3 ticks of jump height and holding the Winger actually gives you 4x jump height, not just 2x.
@schniemand2 жыл бұрын
I copied my comment from the other Winger video.
@Jessie_Helms2 жыл бұрын
*vigorously takes notes*
@ZaTrapu2 жыл бұрын
Force a nature + winger + atomizer = Mr. Floor-is-lava
@croma20682 жыл бұрын
2:50 25% is still 25%, even if it's applied to two separate jumps. A jump gives you 45Hu of height. The Winger adds 25% jump height. 45 x 1.25 = 56.25 Double Jump: 45 x 1.25 + 45 x 1.25 = 112.5 As you can clearly see, this is 25% more height than 2 jumps without the Winger: 112.5 / (45+45) = 1.25 Stay in school, kids, otherwise you'll get basic math wrong.
@moonblaze27132 жыл бұрын
Just a quick point about your comparison to stock's damage output; you compared them on a per-clip basis. But, even with having to reload in between, the Winger would be able to fire off multiple clips in the same period of time. So while it wont be able to get out as many bullets, with those bullets doing more damage... well, I havent run the numbers, I'm responding in the moment. But I suspect the average damage per second over the span of a single stock clip is actually comparable. The only downside damage wise comes if your target is getting pocketed. Having to reload gives them a breather to heal up.
@AlexDoubleAU Жыл бұрын
"You may end up liking it" Me: I literally can't live without my signature Smissmas sweater Winger
@sauronsrighthandman3012 жыл бұрын
Hmm...I'll give it a shot. I've been playing around with other scout primaries and melees, might as well give his secondaries the same treatment.
@zac9311 Жыл бұрын
Ive said it before, but youve got great gags and visual comedy. That kind of shit sticks around
@ianleather56992 жыл бұрын
I like how chill this video feels
@iiiivvvv99862 жыл бұрын
Winger sort of also negates a baby face down side as the added jump height can help you reach place you would need a double jump to reach otherwise
@Gameplayer1500X2 жыл бұрын
I feel like alot of people use the winger its just they dont have it out at all times so you dont see them hold it and unsure if they're using it. I've been finding the shortstop to be a fun gun lately. I would call that scouts most overlooked weapons
@juke96742 жыл бұрын
Plus you can get up from the entrance to the top of the bridge to the top part of 2fort
@BanermanArthropide2 жыл бұрын
9:45 "You really need to make sure your tracking is on point" Me, a heavy main: "I think I'm good"
@abirbhattacharji93452 жыл бұрын
You dont exist *heavy mains dont exist stop panicking* *heavy mains dont exist stop panicking*
@BanermanArthropide2 жыл бұрын
@@abirbhattacharji9345 I guess I'm a Scout main then
@blocky_luke2 жыл бұрын
A good part about it is that if you use a skin on it the enimy cant tell it apart from stock pistol, however i have a capper So i barely use it
@thebigboy-fr9bg2 жыл бұрын
I was using the winger before I saw this video, but this opens up a new world of opportunity for me, because I used it more as a weapon because I forget that scout has a double jump.
@Tricky197 Жыл бұрын
I almost always use the winger, i'm not a huge fan of the atomizer so having the extra jump height is very useful. Recently I played a few games with the guillotine though and that's fun too.
@rockerattribute2 жыл бұрын
Havent tested it yet, but i'm pretty srue if you pair this with the Atomizer you can pull the Winger out, jump 2 times, then pull out the atomizer and jump one more time, basically giving you way more additional height
@TheBerryVids4202 жыл бұрын
I also love the Winger, it's my favorite Scout secondary.
@mrlampy2 жыл бұрын
I love the winger on those goddamn multiplier servers, add it with the atomiser and you are now god
@elder_gambino34032 жыл бұрын
the problem with the winger is that you can simply use the atomizer (which is the best scout melee anyway) and use something more useful for your secondary slot such as the flying guillotine or the mad milk
@jackdague17922 жыл бұрын
This vid has definitely convinced me to give the winger a shot next time I'm playing Scout, though at the same time I feel like its offensive abilities need... not necessarily a full buff, but maybe a tweak. It's a wonderful mobility, but is significantly weaker than stock offensively, with worse burst damage than the Pocket Pistol (which can heal you for 27 health if you land all nine shots) and worse sustained damage than stock. I'd have to get back to this after playing with it a bit, but I feel like a notable damage buff, but a notable fire rate penalty might help give it a more distinct personality, so Scout's three pistols are each significantly different from each other. It could probably retain the same DPS however, since one full clip at point-blank range is enough to kill the three lowest health classes in just under a second.
@DangermuffinVideos2 жыл бұрын
4:08 I love this edit!
@sexmangaming2 жыл бұрын
What animations were you using at 6:06?
@imakepoorlikechoices6182 жыл бұрын
I’m very new to tf2, as of now I only have 9 weapons, and my only two ones for scout are force of nature and winger so it’s cool to know I have a good combo
@gregorymirabella14232 жыл бұрын
i just don't like how it has almost no synergy with the atomizer now that the triple jump isn't passive. the #1 fan set was one of the only sets in the game where the items had perfect synergy and now that's gone.
@Nibba_352 жыл бұрын
3:51 YO TGE WIBFER IS A GUN?! NO FUCKING WAY DUUUUUDE! THATS CRAZY
@hankenstein122 жыл бұрын
I think the atomizer is better because there are so many better unlocks for the secondary while melee just isn’t as needed. You can also start using your 3rd jump as soon as you pull it out even if you aren’t able to attack with it and still while you in the middle of your first or second jump.
@CHEH_tf2 жыл бұрын
0:30 If you ask me its clearly the stock revolver, people seam to use the ambassador more even tho it's a straight downgrade
@onyxlore52772 жыл бұрын
How is the ambassador a straight downgrade? Even if it's harder to use it has much more burst damage
@CHEH_tf2 жыл бұрын
@@onyxlore5277 Awoolensleevelet tested the ttk of the revolver vs the amby and the revolver had the same ttk, or really close, as the ambassador for dealing headshots at all ranges. The only technical upside is at close range if you can headshot+bodyshot a light class. If you calculate the time to kill foe the revolver at this range it is: 0.58*2=1.16s You need 3 shots to kill a light class so you have to wait for the cooldown 2 times For the amby: 0.69 second, it has a 0.69s delay between shots So you have a 0.47s ttk improvement that wont matter in a dm situation besides against automatic weapons. Why? The scattergun and shotgun have a 0.62s ttk at this range, which is better than the hs+body combo of the amby. Moreover having to aim for the head is less reliable/consistent than having to aim for the body. If you face a pistol or an smg 0.47s will matter, you'll get hit about 3 shot less. If you use the amby and only headshot you get (go watch woolen's vid) : -a worse ttk at close range, somewhat the same at mid range -a less reliable gun since you have to aim for the head and not the body E tier, it has no uses, either for gunspy and knifespy The burst damage doesn't even matter since the stock revolver has a higher ttk at close range anyways
@Dispensergamer25 күн бұрын
I love that he searched for the winger and youtube shows him some Winglet's videos lol.
@-elthiccy-13882 жыл бұрын
Dude holy shit that outro music gave me some nostalgic memories
@Phoenix-Handle2 жыл бұрын
I haven't unlocked it yet I'll try it when I get it
@sno_boi2 жыл бұрын
this is back when karma charger was still here :(
@arbiter68592 жыл бұрын
I only use the winger if I'm using a completely different loudout because my playstyle revolves around the atomizer. I currently changed my playstyle with the bfb since it fucked up my good playstyle with scout and made me thirst for bfb kills on unimaginable levels so i use the winger and the flying guillotine based on th map.
@monkey_eyes50562 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what other melees for scout should you use when using the winger?
@lordpumpkinhead2652 жыл бұрын
With the added mobility, you could use the Wrap Assassin to get bleed damage on people from very cheeky angles. Fan O War isn't a bad option if you position yourself above the enemy, allowing you to drop down and mark people for death. The rest of the other Scout melees really don't provide any benefit (except the Atomizer, which was talked about in the video) unless you wanna be Fast Spy, and drop down on people.
@monkey_eyes50562 жыл бұрын
@@lordpumpkinhead265 Thanks man for replying.
@eighto85442 жыл бұрын
i use winger just because of x100. thanks community servers for bringing me to an actually great mobility and shoot tool. edit: he recommended the back scatter, this gotta be the "sounds cool" loadout then.
@justacatwithghostlygibus98232 жыл бұрын
The Winger is really good in Saxton Hale (custom gamemode) by jumping above hale forcing him to turn around u to hit but u can jump again and again and again until u die or jumping on a higher surface where the hale can't reach it without super jump And this thing with mini crits and crits oh boy,the fun begins
@SirTriton2 жыл бұрын
I like that If you translate your game to dutch the winger will still have a english name but a different one The wingman
@PheConxCSCZISGOOD Жыл бұрын
i have had the winger as my main pistol and i never knew no one used it
@devastation45292 жыл бұрын
I have 2 loadouts that focus on a balance on Usability and How fun it is. One is Stock, Winger, Wrap assassin. This is one of my favourite loadouts, you can have the reliable damage of the Stock Scattergun, The Mobility of the Winger and the Down right Fun of the Wrap assassin which is a great chip damage. In case your curious, the other one is Stock (again), Pretty Boy’s Pocket Pistol and Atomiser. Its probably the better option, but i honestly prefer the first one due to the Winger having the mobility basically on demand.
@thegunslinger97072 жыл бұрын
Another small thing that wasn't mentioned is that Scout has very few pistol rounds. Having fewer rounds/clip means that you don't run out of bullets that fast. Pair this up with the slight damage boost and the weapon will potentially do more damage if you count every shot instead of stock. Also the first shot of any pistol is always perfectly accurate, meaning that the damage upside does help a little more than expected with finishing from a distance than stock. Not overall, but still
@Glaceonics2 жыл бұрын
Dragons fury is getting a lot more use due to some content creators finally making videos on it, only for everyone to go back to the Degreaser and or backburner because the weapon is not at all viable against competent enemies. It needs buffs... and the fireball needs to accurately represent its damn hitbox.
@gymzaal4412 Жыл бұрын
You can use the winger and force a nature to reach the battlements on 2 fort from the sewers in 2 jumps.
@Just_Ben_YT2 жыл бұрын
I love the winger man, it's awesome
@sankdom45982 жыл бұрын
I knew that the winger was underrated like a year ago and I kept on telling my brother how good it was but then I just stopped playing scout at all and forgot about it I just started using it again and it’s fun
@rlglezglez83912 жыл бұрын
why not talk about the liberty launcher? I think it's kind of underrated and fun to use with mantreads (or gunboats) with the market gardener
@justaguy_5042 Жыл бұрын
The winger is underated because it not only gives extra damage but it also has a 50% jump boost. Though it has a 5 bullet capacity it goes well with its loadout, the soda popper and the atomizer ( I see the irony) It also goes incredibly well with the scattergun. Its also powerful in mvm if u get the ammo capacity upgraded
@AnomalyAlter2 жыл бұрын
Any time I use scout, the Winger is my secondary. Very few occasions when I take it off for another weapon
@crystalsletsplays22402 жыл бұрын
6:04 spider scout is a new sub class now
@bigcheese68552 жыл бұрын
The Windows XP segment got you a sub lmao
@kugelhagel22822 жыл бұрын
*thinking about vorobeys pistol 2.0 video* Its been released 2 months before this video
@MoriBoita Жыл бұрын
I dont play tf2, but i'm kinda interested on trying it out Isnt the baby-face-something a primary who gives you a lot of move speed? Can you use it with winger and atomizer?
@RealTonyMontana2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sold on the winger, The extra jump mobility can be gained with the Atomizer which essentially gives you the same jump height. The atomizer also doesn't take up a secondary slot which allows you to use mad milk or the pocket pistol which helps you stay alive and take fights more often. The winger is still a good choice but I think there are better options for scout.
@kirbles20352 жыл бұрын
Great video but the atomizer doesn't need to be fully deployed in order to do a triple jump. As long as it's out you can triple jump so the line about having to commit to it I feel is incorrect.
@NickIvanRowan2 жыл бұрын
I was wonderin if im seeing double or something when i saw this video
@mellobazz8762 жыл бұрын
I loved to use the winger with the old baby face, fast as hell with high jump capabilities
@royalraptorgaming85012 жыл бұрын
Good video, I always liked the winger, when I used to main scout, my only complaint is the use of the word "clip" I dont wanna be a smart ass but Magazine would be proper term, sorry I just cringe when I hear clip used incorrectly so many times XD BUT otherwise a fantastic video!
@jonathansmithers27632 жыл бұрын
That intro instantly made me like the video.
@AffyMoon2 жыл бұрын
I still use the winger the most out of any scout secondary, like i get that the PBPP is better, but like, jump go swoosh(also because I smelted my PBPP when I meant to smelt something else)
@alpacaofthemountain87602 жыл бұрын
great video!
@W28ghdinduh2 жыл бұрын
A lot of weapons in tf2, well in it inventory it is the possmon
@stealthbeastgaming2 жыл бұрын
That 5 shot magazine absolutely kills it for me. There's just too many other mobility options on a class that already didn't really need mobility options. Scattergun capacity is scout's damage bottleneck and his pistol's supposed to help him deal with that. Mad Milk doesn't help him in this way either, but Mad Milk is at least not deeply situational.
@ItsLeah43 Жыл бұрын
I think deeply situational undersells the winger a lot. I think it's decently balanced and useful in most situations. Imo, more mobility on a mobility class is actually still very good, especially when you take into account all the routes you can take that you couldn't before. I've been using the winger a lot recently and it's surprising how often I get use out of it. I'm finding little ways to make escapes better and flank in weirder ways on every map I use it on, and yeah, while other secondaries are really good, the ability to both flank easier and escape faster and more unpredictably make up for the loss in damage. As said in this video, it really helps a flanking-focused scout make plays, and flanking focused scouts often don't need all six shots of their scattergun to do their job, they flank, get one or maybe two picks then get outta there. In less flanky scout playstyles the winger naturally is worse, but even then the little options and unexpected plays it opens up are still really good. You have to experiment a lot; look at a gap or ledge and just give it a shot with your winger, even if you think you can't make it. When you get into the right mindset with the winger it really opens up more options than you'd ever expect.
@stealthbeastgaming Жыл бұрын
OR... you could just equip the atomizer and get almost the exact same map-breaking capabilities WITHOUT completely gimping your secondary damage.
@hamstreak55912 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention how the Winger is the ONLY secondary viable to use with tbd Baby-Face's Blaster, allowing your only-one jump to be more useful.
@DannyCheezits2 жыл бұрын
you can also use the guillotine for speed and bleed
@hamstreak55912 жыл бұрын
@@DannyCheezits wrap assassin
@DannyCheezits2 жыл бұрын
@@hamstreak5591 both stack
@schweppley16142 жыл бұрын
I find the pretty boy’s pocket pistol to be better, since you can use it to chip away at people shooting you, retaining your health better, and gaining speed boost
@hamstreak55912 жыл бұрын
@@schweppley1614 gaining health back doesn't mitigate the boost you lose. If you take damage, you lose all your boost. In order to get it back, it doesn't matter if you have a winger or a pbpp, the only thing you need is damage. Thusly, not only does the winger accomodate for the BFB's jumping-shortcomings, its boosted jumps can help you dodge enemy spam if you're caught with your pants down with no boost meter.