What is TF2's Worst Weapon? |Part 1|

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@Collisto2435
@Collisto2435 3 жыл бұрын
When Demo gets a melee-based secondary, he gets: - The ability to still use his primary. - Damage resistance. - The ability to close gaps between his enemies and him. - A guaranteed mini-crit/critical hit. When Heavy gets a melee-based secondary, he gets: - Locked to melee combat only. - A damage taken penalty.
@TRCumbox
@TRCumbox 3 жыл бұрын
thats to avoid twitter from canceling them
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
for the Buffalo Steak, a simple fix would be "can heal, and can overheal up to 150HP" like the Dalokosh bar overheal, meaning temporary health increase. For me 450HP with a damage vulnerability is better then a 300HP with damage vulnerability and it is balanced, because you are melee only for 16 seconds. Also, the obvious addition for the Warrior's Spirit would be "minicrits are crits" stat like the Bushwaka. for Buffalo Steak and Warrior;s spirit I would change them more, like adding HP on hit and Kill stats on both and making the Bear Claws a low damage but faster swing speed melee that can heal up good. I can detail it if you want.
@givemewater114
@givemewater114 3 жыл бұрын
@@drivanradosivic1357 nah just give heavy noclip
@jakestan1185
@jakestan1185 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that would make it better is if you get a higher dt
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakestan1185 Well, Dalokosh bar like plus 150HP overheal could work with Heavy damage sponge, and the Warrior's Spirit making minicrits into crits like the Bushwaka would make the combo better.
@davetheanimerock5948
@davetheanimerock5948 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the pain train is actually a upgrade from stock in medieval mode because there's no bullets and capture points. Not even a no random crits downside
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
You got a big brain sir
@CHEH_tf
@CHEH_tf 3 жыл бұрын
Technically the huntsman counts as a bullet in the game because when a vac medic uses a bullet resistance it applies to the huntsman
@zzaade
@zzaade 3 жыл бұрын
that's really smart
@calcutt4
@calcutt4 2 жыл бұрын
Technically the huntsman and crossbow do bullet damage
@goodboi2520
@goodboi2520 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it have a projectile and a projectile hit box or somthin
@NostalgiaCassetteCity
@NostalgiaCassetteCity 3 жыл бұрын
The Baby Face's Blaster hitbox glitch was actually a myth and has been disproven. This was the case for both pre *and* post Gun Mettle
@anudee7142
@anudee7142 3 жыл бұрын
then why did they want to make the weapon bad by adding that one stat where if you take damage you lose your boost
@Bloockackack
@Bloockackack 3 жыл бұрын
@@anudee7142 the devs just bended the knee cos of how hated it was
@terrypennington2519
@terrypennington2519 3 жыл бұрын
@@anudee7142 Because of how stupidly powerful the weapon was. If you've ever played the game pre gun mettle, then you would know how insanely strong and annoying this weapon was. The boost loss when hit stat was absolutely needed, though it's debatable as to whether or not the nerf needed to be as harsh as it was, as it's kinda useless now.
@anudee7142
@anudee7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrypennington2519 i guess the only way for people to enjoy the blaster is to make the speed drop more forgiving basically what fish said in his bad weapon academy video
@terrypennington2519
@terrypennington2519 3 жыл бұрын
@@anudee7142 Yeah the jump nerf can be reverted to take only 50% of the boost (instead of 75%), and maybe make it so that the boost only gets completely lost when the Scout takes about maybe 35 or 45 damage instead of 25. Gonna be real with you though chief, I'm glad nobody uses this weapon anymore. The concept of using this weapon was that it made an already quick and agile class even more agile, and trading verticality for a more effective horizontal gameplay, honestly wasn't a big trade off depending on the map.
@Fatsaver
@Fatsaver 3 жыл бұрын
Bison has literally no hitbox anymore. Deserved S tier.
@c0smo709
@c0smo709 3 жыл бұрын
@BradynLee09 i think it's a skull or something idk
@ebreenable
@ebreenable 3 жыл бұрын
The weapon also does as much damage as sum soap in a woopy cushion
@someonefromsomewhere1009
@someonefromsomewhere1009 3 жыл бұрын
@@c0smo709 its a silhouette of the bison with a laser shooting from it , I don’t blame you for not knowing it tho
@jamesluers1516
@jamesluers1516 3 жыл бұрын
The only worthy opponent is the weapon that litterally has been given the knickname trash passer. (not counting Mvm.)
@jspark8990
@jspark8990 3 жыл бұрын
Or badwater last
@karlbischof2807
@karlbischof2807 3 жыл бұрын
Eviction Notice is just Hot Hand for heavy
@MachoCatfrfr
@MachoCatfrfr 3 жыл бұрын
PUNCH KILL
@society1876
@society1876 3 жыл бұрын
its worse
@fe1ip3
@fe1ip3 3 жыл бұрын
But hot hand came after the eviction notice right? So hot hand is the eviction notice of pyro.
@karlbischof2807
@karlbischof2807 3 жыл бұрын
@@fe1ip3 yea basically, but the vid didnt talk about hot hand, only EN, so i mentioned it first. Its also more forgettable than hot hand cuz its even worse and the stats contradict what the weapon is suppose to be
@Captain_Shorts654
@Captain_Shorts654 3 жыл бұрын
Scorch shot is just the loose cannon for pyro
@QuaggledMireclops
@QuaggledMireclops 3 жыл бұрын
Extra points for the enforcer: It's damage isn't lowered by the wranglers shield.
@GMeneze800
@GMeneze800 3 жыл бұрын
What about Dead Ringer
@dazeen9591
@dazeen9591 3 жыл бұрын
Also I believe Enforcer ignores the damage reduction from sapping. Sapping a sentry gives it protection from incoming damage although quite small. Also more importantly Enforcer ignores Vaccinator resistances. Also it ignores Brass Beast and Natascha resistances. It also "resets" the accuracy faster as far as I know so it's better at long range than stock.
@trashbeast
@trashbeast 3 жыл бұрын
@@dazeen9591 It doesn't pierce the sapper debuff, which is what you'd think the point of the weapon is. But nope.
@dazeen9591
@dazeen9591 3 жыл бұрын
@@trashbeast really? then I've been lied to for years.
@jspark8990
@jspark8990 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t piece sebttt armour and it’s not small it’s 33%
@lolripk
@lolripk 3 жыл бұрын
The tragedy of the Rightious Bison, sometimes I legit would just allow an enemy soldier to kill me with it (out of respect) and even then they still fail at killing me because of how weak the weapon is, truly sad
@alexanderharrison7421
@alexanderharrison7421 3 жыл бұрын
There's Funny Bad Weapons like the Hot Hand and then there's Sad Bad Weapons like the Bison Pain
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
@CallofDutyBlackOps28 3 жыл бұрын
when guns are nerfed into the ground, that crits are the only way it's good/MvM. and even then there are better things out there.
@JeanMarc-ft6er
@JeanMarc-ft6er 3 жыл бұрын
I only remember about the “Pain Train” Weapon is because one of the demoman voicelines was saying something about Pain Train Station
@IoanCenturion
@IoanCenturion 3 жыл бұрын
@memes 47 AAAuuaaagh *burps*
@marekjanda7604
@marekjanda7604 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know, the pain train was originally for pyro? But in the end it is not so.
@cotulprital0241
@cotulprital0241 3 жыл бұрын
_...gonna take you down to the pain train station in train town..._
@trashbeast
@trashbeast 3 жыл бұрын
And it lets you kaboom taunt as full demoknight
@ImprisionArchieves
@ImprisionArchieves 3 жыл бұрын
I remember it because of sound smith’s videos.
@Redacted_Ruler
@Redacted_Ruler 3 жыл бұрын
The worlds greatest minds coming together to solve the pressing matters.
@olivermarshall8750
@olivermarshall8750 3 жыл бұрын
Ham stick on a ham
@sansnitizer
@sansnitizer 3 жыл бұрын
@@olivermarshall8750 holy shit
@lue64
@lue64 3 жыл бұрын
kazuma desu
@5spec
@5spec 3 жыл бұрын
Deadringer Bison or Gaspasser They are useless
@olivermarshall8750
@olivermarshall8750 3 жыл бұрын
@@5spec dead ringer is very far from useless it is a get out of jail free card for spys that make stupid decisions
@MythicBeanProductions
@MythicBeanProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I never realized that the killing gloves of boxing are the KGB until he said it... Nice one Valve
@shatterednova_
@shatterednova_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wait till you hear what the Gloves of Running Urgently stand for
@casiooooooo
@casiooooooo 2 жыл бұрын
@@shatterednova_ help dr.nafario I have turn into speedy gloves
@AVI-lh6rm
@AVI-lh6rm 2 жыл бұрын
@@casiooooooo lmao why is that so funny
@cheesepop7175
@cheesepop7175 Жыл бұрын
@@shatterednova_ goru gru (that one villian)
@coconutfredenjoyer2863
@coconutfredenjoyer2863 3 жыл бұрын
Even thinking about the Eviction Notice just makes me real sad. It's one of the nicest looking melee weapons in the game, and it's concept of 'Faster Swing Speed on Heavy Melee' is awesome, but it's just completely out-classed by even the Warrior's Spirit. How come all the good-looking weapons have to suck? Warrior's Spirit, Righteous Bison, Enforcer, Pomson 6000, Back Scatter, S.V.F. Sun-on-a-Stick and now this? Edit: The Back Scatter makes me the most sad, because it's concept of rewarding Scouts for using their mobility to flank around the enemy is great. But the actual gun is just kinda mediocre
@memebro8703
@memebro8703 3 жыл бұрын
The eviction notice was actually passable until they added the stupid health drain. Kinda still a meme weapon but Valve was so scared of heavy having any kind of speed boost without severe downsides that they killed what tiny potential it had.
@aetu35
@aetu35 3 жыл бұрын
enforcer is just a slower revolver really, you are already probably going to wait between shots to regain accuracy and the resistance piercing + disguise damage bonus is kinda extra. it's a straight upgrade or straight downgrade depending on how you play and your opinion. still the worst unlock revolver tho
@cristinagomez3283
@cristinagomez3283 3 жыл бұрын
The eviction notice logic: Spikes to bleed opponents=you take damage Is made of metal=less damage than stock fists
@The_Rising_Dragon
@The_Rising_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
Just remove the backscatter's "Buff" and replace it with crits when it'd mini crit, and no random crits. There fixed.
@thesillyrandom
@thesillyrandom 2 жыл бұрын
A little fun fact I noticed about the Eviction Notice is that in addition to the slow health drain, it actually cuts your health BY 20. Every time you equip it. Like an honorbound effect. This weapon is so dumb and I love it for its awfulness
@steveen3020
@steveen3020 3 жыл бұрын
im just happy that he killed a spinbot with the bison
@poffzihavenoidea531
@poffzihavenoidea531 3 жыл бұрын
The volcano fragment, giving fire damage to a class which can do nothing but fire and melee damage, like why not add an explosive melee to a class with nothing but... Oh
@killerkirby366
@killerkirby366 3 жыл бұрын
No it has one use it the fire axe no that is a bad qepon why qell it is the only qepon that can be replaced with no downsjde
@sire6265
@sire6265 3 жыл бұрын
@@killerkirby366 what?
@theblakwarior
@theblakwarior 3 жыл бұрын
except caberknight is actually kinda meta on dustbowl
@killerkirby366
@killerkirby366 3 жыл бұрын
@@sire6265 my key next to e is broken not r
@killerkirby366
@killerkirby366 3 жыл бұрын
@@theblakwarior can’t be meta if you don’t fucking explode most the time
@dfkas30
@dfkas30 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the volcano fractment was a heavy weapon, it will combo perfectly with the hou long
@normalhuman78-53
@normalhuman78-53 3 жыл бұрын
Idk you still have to -hit them with volcano fragment -rev -effectively track them at almost melee range Honestly since you have to get up close it wouldn’t be any better than just using the Huo long heater itself
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
the Huo Long would be better if it had a Ring of Fire and Incendiary bullets mode. plus I think the Stock with a Hollow points mode/bleed on hit, would work well.
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
@Dustin what the Huo Long or the Stock minigun, or both? also, funny thing is, the Vaccinator is the MEdic's version of the Battalion's Backup, meaning that the other banners would be miniuber sort of mediguns as well.
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
@Dustin my idea was that both Huo long modes cost 4 extra ammo, but the Incendiary ammo one is on shot instead of rev up. Similar for the Hollow points mode of the Stock minigun, costs 4 more ammo when shooting.
@Pikana
@Pikana 3 жыл бұрын
"No MvM" Guess I'll be seeing Gas Passer somewhere on here then. That mode alone is the only time it's ever done anything.
@eeveeforsmashbros2267
@eeveeforsmashbros2267 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the Bison, wasn’t even good to begin with, but Valve decided to say,”you know what? Screw the Bison, let’s make worse 10fold.”
@UBdoritos
@UBdoritos 3 жыл бұрын
i got payday 2 when it was 99 cents for steam and immediately grinded for the double saw build, had a great time thanks to you!
@kalebdavis7080
@kalebdavis7080 3 жыл бұрын
The classic would be great if it had one thing: Letting it be able to fire when you're not on the ground! A single soldier popping you means you can't even shoot him if you release a full charge, since it just doesn't fire and wastes the whole charge. What's worse, you also can't fire underwater, since unless you're standing, you **can't fire it!**
@sud1881
@sud1881 3 жыл бұрын
Then snipers would just crouch behind a ledge wait for charge jump and get a headshot
@karlbischof2807
@karlbischof2807 3 жыл бұрын
i wish all snipers could do this
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the Classic would be better with a "you are faster when not scoped in" to make it a Gun Huntsman which makes it have it's own niche. Plus, since the Classic Rifle had the ability to go Sniper mode and full auto mode, why not a switch between a 25 round Sniper and a 75 round SMG stat mode when you press R on Classic active.
@markosofranic3905
@markosofranic3905 3 жыл бұрын
Or if it could have stats from Team Fortress Classic, where it originates from: Shoting at the legs makes the enemy slow for a couple of seconds, headshots without full charge, and you can shoot while jumping.
@sud1881
@sud1881 3 жыл бұрын
@@markosofranic3905 the slow effect was removed because of game balance
@dualla7245
@dualla7245 3 жыл бұрын
You see I’d get upset over the pain train being on this list since it’s, in everyone’s opinion, the best melee for demoknight. But then I have to remember that this doesn’t count random crits and the pain train is a random crotch machine.
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
Crotch lol
@dualla7245
@dualla7245 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWhatShow shit i was typing that while taking a dump. Also /j.
@dualla7245
@dualla7245 3 жыл бұрын
@aaci I mean i unironicly use it on demo. It is an effective crit machine and it shows you being the dominant male by having less health and still being able to dominate the other team.
@airplanemaniacgaming7877
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 Жыл бұрын
@@dualla7245 Only thing close to being like this, is running DemoSign. Ever take on 3 pyrosharks in 2fort sewers and beat 2 of them?
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386 3 жыл бұрын
the pain train is actually good, the downside on soldier can nullified with the battalions back up and in medieval mode it's a direct upgrade. as for it on demoman in normal modes, yeah i have no excuse for that
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386 3 жыл бұрын
@Blaze Kunz wait really? i thought they did projectile damage
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386 3 жыл бұрын
@Blaze Kunz yeah, now that you mention it, it does seem rather dumb
@kered13
@kered13 2 жыл бұрын
It works great on Demoman on any control point map. The benefit of 2x capture rate should not be underrated. It's pretty commonly used in comp.
@gluesniffer4291
@gluesniffer4291 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I find it incredibly fun to use the Apocofists and the Steak Sandvich in Medieval Mode. It's just so satisfying to watch your enemies explode from the power of your fists. Heck I even use the Apocofists as my go to Heavy melee outside of Medieval Mode. Not the Steak Sandvich though, that thing is hot garbage in literally every other game mode lol.
@icetide9411
@icetide9411 3 жыл бұрын
The worst weapon is clearly the wrangler Who would ever need 3 times the amount of health, infinite range, and double the firing speed.
@dacatarmy3258
@dacatarmy3258 3 жыл бұрын
no
@saddisplay4828
@saddisplay4828 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@tailsfanteg4712
@tailsfanteg4712 3 жыл бұрын
yeis
@abirbhattacharji9345
@abirbhattacharji9345 3 жыл бұрын
Yeiß
@MachoCatfrfr
@MachoCatfrfr 3 жыл бұрын
I use the wrangler and is kinda ok
@what_d1245
@what_d1245 3 жыл бұрын
If the bison already hets a lot of respect, imagine killing a BOT with it. And thats what this guy did
@Gheorghe69
@Gheorghe69 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question: How tf can brass knukles with spikes give less damage than bare hands?
@michaelthesanta3610
@michaelthesanta3610 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a legit good question!
@Dragonthrashing
@Dragonthrashing 2 жыл бұрын
I have a somewhat reasonable answer. Speed. brass is very heavy, and assuming the brass kunkles are pure brass it would slow your hand down a good amount. And plus heavy would need a custom version because of his fat fingers, therefore costing more brass and more weight, and even then the spikes could be dull too. Now think, what would hurt more A fat Russian man punching you at about say 10mph, or the same Russian man hitting you with dull brass nubs at about 5mph
@STRONGBAD300
@STRONGBAD300 2 жыл бұрын
Real answer: you cant punch full force with brass knuckles or you will break your hands
@michaelthesanta3610
@michaelthesanta3610 2 жыл бұрын
@@STRONGBAD300 Well, heavy has big hands
@STRONGBAD300
@STRONGBAD300 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelthesanta3610 physics would say that would make his hand even easier to break in brass knuckles
@PotofGlue
@PotofGlue 3 жыл бұрын
Pain train’s not the only objective downgrade, so is pyro’s stock melee
@g5omnipotence923
@g5omnipotence923 3 жыл бұрын
as a spy/soldier main, I agree about the enforcer and ambassador. I do believe there are better options, but it's pretty alright!
@xsosad
@xsosad 3 жыл бұрын
Worst Scout weapon: Baby's face blaster Lime Scout: **taunt**
@meeyatttA
@meeyatttA 3 жыл бұрын
Why the hell is this channel so underrated
@rockowlgamer631
@rockowlgamer631 3 жыл бұрын
I unironically love the Buffalo Steak Sandvich, sure i'm weaker then a pyro when using it with the Warrior's Spirit but man does it feel good
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
the Steak needs to give you Health like the Sandvich and it should overheal up to 150HP since you are melee only getting practically 450HP for melee only Heavy would be great.
@rockowlgamer631
@rockowlgamer631 3 жыл бұрын
@@drivanradosivic1357 either that or 30-50% damage resistance instead with 50% speed increase instead of 30% cause walking the same speed as the 100% Walker's isnt good enough Maybe the speed of a medic would do
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockowlgamer631 I think the Damage vulnerability of the Buffalo Steak plus Warrior's Spirit should be 35% together like a minicrit( meaning keep 20% for Steak and lower the Bear claws from 30% to 15% to be better) to make them a good part of a set and the HP increase similar to Dalokosh bar but for all 450HP pool the Heavy has would also be good. especially since if you consider the Steak to be the TF2 equivalent of the Classic Doom Berserker pack that gave increased melee damage and heal up to 100%, which could be translated as a Dalokosh bar full healing and overheal in TF2 plus minicrits. for Heavy's movement speed, I actually had an idea that gives him new core class passives, one that is related to the ability to stomp on people, the other that is related to movement speed in a Counter Strike like manner when your GLORIOUS MAIN DAMAGE DEALER the *Minigun* is Holstered and everything else is active, meaning the name is Rushing Slav. Rushing Slav gives the Heavy plus 8% movement speed(which is 77% base plus 8% Rushing Slav for 85% move speed) which is good for those moments where you need to be on the move and can't afford the GRU or Evi noti or Food items(meaning soft buff to all the other melees) AND Rushing Slav stacks with speed boosters. Plus I would give the core weapons aka stock weapons something over nothing(like how stock medigun has invulnerability over nothing), for the Heavy that means stock melees is a "on kill: plus 15% movement speed for 5 seconds" as a upside. plus the Steak for more movement speed For the Sleeping Bear set. Brass Beast, simply remove the rev up penalty to make it better. This also makes the BB a good Area denial & "Go ahead, make my day" Minigun while the Natasha is more of a "you will not get away from me" minigun. Buffalo Steak, both the gain Health over 4 seconds(300HP should be enough) and the Dalokosh bar health increase stat but for 150HP on the health gain side of things. Now, keep the minicrits and the speed boost, but also add in 15HP on hit and 25HP on kill that can stack to 60HP. this can combo with all the other Melees and even make a Steak Brawler subclass now. Warrior's Spirit, 30% dmg vulnerability is 15%, plus 30% damage is minus 30% damage for no random crits AND minicrits are crits, plus 30% faster swing speed, as well as 10HP on hit and 50HP on kill that can overheal to 60HP & the HP gain stats can stack with the steak so Steak and Claws is 25HP on hit and 75HP on kill together. what do you think of this sort of changes?
@anudee7142
@anudee7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@drivanradosivic1357 why are those 3 in the same set together
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 3 жыл бұрын
@@anudee7142 well, because of the theme of Big, beffy and badass, I just hope my suggestions actually make a Hibernating Bear set Heavy actually those things. it is both amusing and sad that all the cool looking stuff is mediocre at best and almost unusable at worst. I wouldn't even be mad if only bits of my suggestions for the Big Shot Heavy were put in. The Rev up penalty removal, the Healing and HP increase of the Steak and lowering the damage vulnerability and giving minicrits are crits on the WArrior's Spirit. that is what I would want at minimum, at maximum, I want all the stuff I mentioned. For the core class Heavy changes, the Stomp ability and the Counter Strike like Rushing Slav movement ability would work well.
@HoneeyMoth
@HoneeyMoth 2 жыл бұрын
You never could and still can’t outrun your hit box with the baby face blaster
@gamesdeen3768
@gamesdeen3768 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the "Imagine a perfect world without the diamondback" bit. Like I actually laughed out loud, not just the little nose exhale.
@fnln3011
@fnln3011 Жыл бұрын
3:20 missed opportunity for a "you're like a car crash in slow motion" quote from scout
@averagefoundationguard3846
@averagefoundationguard3846 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: because of the slower firing speed Enforcer has, the Enforcer has 100% accuracy
@OGuiBlindao
@OGuiBlindao Жыл бұрын
Lol
@tailsfanteg4712
@tailsfanteg4712 3 жыл бұрын
I've started to play tf2 again a bit, it's sad ofc that casual is 70% of the time have bots and all what I heard is ture, but, at least one of my ex-favourite weapons Baby faces blaster will give me the experience "Im fast as f boi" once again with the set that was said in the vid. Btw, waiting for part 2, I'll subscribe for now.
@ashtongiertz8728
@ashtongiertz8728 2 жыл бұрын
16:23 the hot hand is useful in medieval mode if you're tag teaming with a sun on a stick scout.
@toastytoaster50
@toastytoaster50 3 жыл бұрын
9:36 i love how the spy is like yes im gonna get the medic and the soldier is like hello
@Moss_Dude
@Moss_Dude 3 жыл бұрын
Gas Passer. Zesty thoroughly convinced me of that.
@Mathos7979
@Mathos7979 2 жыл бұрын
18:14 the ambassador still exists
@MikhailTukachevsky
@MikhailTukachevsky 4 ай бұрын
Ambassador has been nerfed badly, diamondback is just better.
@RiffSilverthe1andonly
@RiffSilverthe1andonly 3 жыл бұрын
19:31, yea the ambassador is still pretty good, I just suck at aiming
@samdaman2939
@samdaman2939 2 жыл бұрын
I respect him using the dr enforcicle load out for the enforcer clips.
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
P.S audio gets weird around 14:10 due to some copyright shenanigans, sorry!
@Redacted_Ruler
@Redacted_Ruler 3 жыл бұрын
I respect the grind
@Weezoed
@Weezoed 2 жыл бұрын
" The Pain Train is the most forgettable weapon" Hey guys remember that goofy thing called the man melter
@aplenope
@aplenope 3 жыл бұрын
man killed a bot with a bison
@discounthorde1944
@discounthorde1944 3 жыл бұрын
A funny tactic i found for the baby face is to use crit cola and fish (this depends on map type, the smaller and more corners a map has the better). how does it work? just get max speed, hide somewhere to drink crit cola, then proceed to hunt down whoever is the closest with a mini critting fish.
@coolguy-xd1bg
@coolguy-xd1bg 3 жыл бұрын
1:31 that's dumb because "No Random Critical Hits" is a method of balance lol
@waterbottle195
@waterbottle195 3 жыл бұрын
no it's not name one weapon that is overpowered or underpowered with the removal of that stat
@maskettaman1488
@maskettaman1488 3 жыл бұрын
@@waterbottle195 Pain Train is much better with random crits enabled
@coolguy-xd1bg
@coolguy-xd1bg 3 жыл бұрын
@@waterbottle195 It's death to most melee weapons lol
@waterbottle195
@waterbottle195 3 жыл бұрын
@@coolguy-xd1bg and? it'll teach people not to rely on melee
@ROMBOOMBEN
@ROMBOOMBEN 3 жыл бұрын
15:45 oh dam thanks for reminding me of this song i forgot about it and i absolutely loved it
@milklaptop
@milklaptop 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I really am the only one who likes the Sun on a Stick, well that's just me having unpopular opinions
@ahgetouttaere7808
@ahgetouttaere7808 3 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with you that in some situations it can be really good
@thealmightyduck5743
@thealmightyduck5743 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Sun on a Stick because it can be amazing with an allied pyro but it's also a really funny meme melee.
@majorspookiness3326
@majorspookiness3326 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I was sad the video was over. Great work
@OlaftheGreat
@OlaftheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine if I had those SMG animations installed my gameplay would improve significantly
@madcat789
@madcat789 3 жыл бұрын
An idea for the eviction notice. +15% Speed +25% Faster Firing Speed +Gain speedboost on hit +Targets hit begin bleeding for ten seconds -30% Damage Penalty -Maximum Health is drained while item is active
@gunswinger3110
@gunswinger3110 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Buffalo Steak could use a rework into a "power up" type of weapon like an Eyelander demoknight. Every kill makes you faster and grants a bit of damage resistance. Sounds like it could be pretty busted if paired with the KGB tho
@jcplays5831
@jcplays5831 3 жыл бұрын
The one quote that works for every melee “Hey that’s a nice earned crit you got there. Well I’ve got something better. RANDOM CRITS!”
@lux6968
@lux6968 3 жыл бұрын
Wooohh! havent seen the full thing but can tell its a great vid
@MCLARGEDRlNK
@MCLARGEDRlNK 2 жыл бұрын
I love when he was talking about the enforcer he was using the classic Dr enforceicle loadout (dead ringer, enforcer, spycicle) and I love that as it was one of my favourites back in the day
@neoivprime2875
@neoivprime2875 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in another game: Haha The classic, Baby Face Blaster and Grill Scout (Sun-on-a-stick) go brrrrrrr
@skewah
@skewah 3 жыл бұрын
18:35 "arent much home to write about" lol
@-.DIO.-
@-.DIO.- 3 жыл бұрын
I actually run the enforcer all the time because the slower firing speed reduces the bullet spread of the weapon Making it a more accurate stock revolver
@godswillotonye6519
@godswillotonye6519 3 жыл бұрын
no it doesnt i checked.
@tootheinternet
@tootheinternet 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... except the spread is still the same if you press m1 nonstop
@pazent646
@pazent646 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t
@JaggedBird
@JaggedBird 2 жыл бұрын
9:53, aaah yes, what a classic sound...
@FishOnGrass
@FishOnGrass 3 жыл бұрын
Great video dude! Looking forward to part 2. Will you have a 59 minute TF2 iceberg video coming soon?
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
every copy of tf2 is personalized 0_0
@BaconLover100
@BaconLover100 3 жыл бұрын
8:11 This 15 inch-wielding saying-no-to-mom ABSOLUTE UNIT just killed a bot with a fucking BISON.
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386
@ok_man_thats_cooli_guess3386 3 жыл бұрын
5:08 GANGSTER SNIPER?!?!
@n01rsc3n3
@n01rsc3n3 3 жыл бұрын
About the Vocano Fragment. It’s redundant, exept when your doing a melee only battle because haha fire melee go brrrr.
@ilikemusic3856
@ilikemusic3856 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I think the worst loadout for scout is probably baby face's blaster, bonk antomic punch and the candy cane.
@juansebastianpulidovelasco2195
@juansebastianpulidovelasco2195 3 жыл бұрын
Bonk is not that bad since it prevents you lose speed in a retreat or a flank Probably is worse the Backscatter and Crit a Cola combo since they both have the same upside
@getaround1276
@getaround1276 2 жыл бұрын
Candy cane is good if you can dodge rockets and it serves a great rocket dodging tutorial
@bjorn0909
@bjorn0909 3 жыл бұрын
I know you said at the beginning of the video that you weren't taking random crits into account, but the pain train is S tier bad weapon imo. The only reason I play demoman is to sticky jump around with the base jumper and random crit people, lots of fun. The crit animation for it is also very satisfying, along the same lines as the kukri's crit animation.
@Awnalrawashdeh
@Awnalrawashdeh 3 жыл бұрын
bro its good wdym if you are good enough not to need your melee its a direct upgrade on actual gamemodes, and a 10% vulnrebility to bullets is apparently s tier matieral
@bjorn0909
@bjorn0909 3 жыл бұрын
@@Awnalrawashdeh I just find it fun to use like the market gardener. No one uses it so no one expects to get crit out of nowhere.
@Lati22
@Lati22 3 жыл бұрын
Man, i love your background music, simply amazing!!
@49gamer51
@49gamer51 3 жыл бұрын
8:09 that sniper was hacker you and I was surprised you killed it I can easily detected by their movement and behavior as I can tell that sniper was using an Aimbot but clearly you were good enough at dodging it that was really impressive might I add
@KoolKakyoin
@KoolKakyoin 3 жыл бұрын
Woah is it really a hacker I thought everyone stared at the roof as sniper
@49gamer51
@49gamer51 3 жыл бұрын
@@KoolKakyoin one reason how I could tell that it was a hacker is mostly how he was moving him aiming upwards sporadically kind of gave it away he was using an Aimbot but due to the proximity it probably didn't recognize him right away because aimbots work better at a distance
@rua5910
@rua5910 3 жыл бұрын
@@49gamer51 Woah really??? im surprised nobody else noticed
@KoolKakyoin
@KoolKakyoin 3 жыл бұрын
@@rua5910 ikr isn't he a genius
@randomguy-ce4dy
@randomguy-ce4dy Жыл бұрын
@@KoolKakyoin ikr bro got schizophrenia and dementia for not knowing there are bots in this game
@yosh5161
@yosh5161 3 жыл бұрын
“I have two tickets to the pain train AND YOU’RE COMING WITH ME”
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 3 жыл бұрын
2:10 I mean if bad weapons should get balanced weapons good in mvm and bad in casual shouldn't at least or just a little buff cuz if that re balance it it will be worse in mvm
@paperboy1790
@paperboy1790 3 жыл бұрын
punctuation, dude.
@poopshiestyreal
@poopshiestyreal 3 жыл бұрын
godzilla didn’t even have a stroke. he had a whole debilitating aneurysm.
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 3 жыл бұрын
@@poopshiestyreal that mean I saved the world:D
@Saiks63014
@Saiks63014 3 жыл бұрын
I remembered the Pain Train immediately as that weapon that rots in my inventory and has been rotting in my inventory since around when I started playing
@wojtekpolska1013
@wojtekpolska1013 3 жыл бұрын
the Eviction Notice is actually kinda _decent_ with its intended kit (tomislav and the other shotgun i forgot the name of)
@wasted1390
@wasted1390 3 жыл бұрын
Family Business?
@damnation6713
@damnation6713 2 жыл бұрын
"The most forgettable weapon would be the pain train" Me, the Wagna Prick Chad:
@coltonberry985
@coltonberry985 2 жыл бұрын
What is the music at 17:30?
@coltonberry985
@coltonberry985 Жыл бұрын
Puzzle plank galaxy past me. You’re welcome.
@Mf_CHIP
@Mf_CHIP Жыл бұрын
@@coltonberry985 bruh
@coltonberry985
@coltonberry985 Жыл бұрын
@@Mf_CHIP The only reason I answered this was because I was about to comment the same question XD
@Mf_CHIP
@Mf_CHIP Жыл бұрын
@@coltonberry985 XD
@gusgus7457
@gusgus7457 3 жыл бұрын
“If I had a nickel for every volcano themed melee weapon in tf2 that was bad I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s wired that it happened twice.” - Dr gaben
@zeniththetoaster9712
@zeniththetoaster9712 3 жыл бұрын
Pain train is amazing on an offensive demo if they have the sticky jumper as you can jump over enemy lines and cap from behind
@yeeter_meter6171
@yeeter_meter6171 2 жыл бұрын
that psp startup sound is so nostalgic to me. Glad you used it as the transitions
@sopito9923
@sopito9923 2 жыл бұрын
No, Amby is trash, like upper C - lower B, "oh you're just salty" no I'm not, my friend plays for a steel highlander and he's a very good gun-spy, I could never convince him to use any revolver besides the stock, he says: "Critical hits are BS but I'd rather enjoy them while we have it" and "the consistency of the default revolver is not just yummy juicy (yes he used this exact same term's) they're are awesome, no other revolver has this dps/accuracy, Amby has a great burst of damage but it falls short on reliability and pressure, yes I can reliable hit my shots, and could even burn the server with Amby, hitting the HS's aren't a problem for me, but I can't control the randomness of the heated gun spread" also "The damage isn't consistent in as * I don't know whether the headshot will connect and secure me a kill or spaghetti-source out into a body shoot *, and even if everything works out, I'll need to be the same distance from the enemy in order to do 102 dmg where I could just do two shoots with stock totalling 120 or... You know... Stab him?! If I'm this close anyways there's no point in using a gun unless you're already been seen, in this case is better a gun that can follow-up shoots quickly instead of staring death in the eyes waiting for the gun cool off" "Because of other factors like getting airborne because a soldiers rocket it may not be possible to always hit your shots and truth be said, is easier to hit the body because the head makes up just 10% of the enemy's total hitbox, with the DB you don't have to worry about perfect crosshair placement or inconsistency" "With stock I can maintain pressure and in the majority of situations if I don't manage to kill the threat within 4 shoots the mostly run away spearing me so, basically win win, and there's still random crits hehehehe" After he explained this all to me is easy to be angry hearing "unga bunga at least you keep your integrity unlike Diamondback" yes DB is pretty busted but not by a whole lot, and the majority of spies guns are bad, even the enforced (which is my favorite gun in the game) suffers with the slightly slower firing speed that messes with your muscle memory and is a whole lot of getting used to it again, yes the downsides aren't that bad but the upsides are entirely situational, and even the one who isn't is bad for a gun-spy who barely even disguises himself At least with the DB you can have back the power trip of the pre jungle inferno Amby where you snipe snipers with 102 dmg across the map. "Oh but in your big ass essay you only said stock is better but I haven't saw any argument stating that the Amby is bad" Well lett me put it that way NO other revolver do better than the stock as a primary weapons BESIDES the busted ass Diamondback The L'Etranger is a good tool but it sacrifices your primary weapon and this is nothing new to anyone The Enforcer is a niche, not a bad thing but you're not winning any Oscars And last Amby need more steps and skills to do the same thing as stock... and end up with the same results So yeah, the other revolvers need a buff or stock and DB needs a nerf I prefer the side were there's more variety
@ikmmcn9513
@ikmmcn9513 3 жыл бұрын
MANS PLAYING SUPER MARIO WII VOLCANO MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND OF A TF2 VIDEO, I LOVE THIS
@titustoast2879
@titustoast2879 3 жыл бұрын
The baby face's blaster is my favorite scattergun out of all of them. And why is that? speed
@brimstoner982
@brimstoner982 2 жыл бұрын
Imo, a good buff for the laser weapons would be to allow them to deal damage to ubered players. It would give them a good niche and give a counter to the immense power of uber
@peregrinus524
@peregrinus524 2 жыл бұрын
I have fond memories of the bison: Once, I killed a retreating heavy/medic duo and a scout with one blast from it. It was amazing. I now only use the bison, for the bison is king.
@JustTheRat01
@JustTheRat01 3 жыл бұрын
the "tickle mittens" can be used to deny uber. pop a kritz on a ticke mittens heavy against an ubered combo, tickle medic, the pocket, and then taunt kill said pocket
@vimalraj6
@vimalraj6 3 жыл бұрын
Its unfortunate I found your channel in the WAMO comments,but hey,you earned a sub👍👍
@duckduck4073
@duckduck4073 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, you can have your boost brought down to nothing with just a single pistol bullet. Because of the winger's 15% damage bonus, with maximum ramp up it will deal a little over 25 damage.
@Archersforeal
@Archersforeal 2 жыл бұрын
first time watching a video from your channel, your music taste is absolutely amazing.
@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632
@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632 3 жыл бұрын
The ambassador turns spy into a psuedo sniper, while the diamondback actually encourages you to do things as spy you should already be doing. It’s also not limited to headshots to do a clean 102 damage, unlike the ambassador
@applepiepieapple5464
@applepiepieapple5464 3 жыл бұрын
I'll always have a soft spot for the eviction notice, because of the fact I stuffed a heavy medic combo with it on dust bowl. Granted, a medic of my own was healing me, but potato tomato
@badideagenerator2315
@badideagenerator2315 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a heavy primary concept: "The Ursus Minor" • A live bear cub strapped to heavy's back • taking damage grants you up to 30% faster movement and reload speeds • automatically replenishes lunchbox item on kill
@LonesomeKrow
@LonesomeKrow 3 жыл бұрын
The only use of the Sharpened Volcano Fragment is to: 1. Meme on people and melee kill them 2. Reset afterburn to deal actual afterburn damage when using Degreaser
@kHz33
@kHz33 3 жыл бұрын
I actually regularly used the Pain Train in competetive 6v6 lobbies whenever I played as a roamer - the +1 capture speed really helps with backcapping and disrupting the enemy, I even managed to win rounds with it because of that.
@kered13
@kered13 2 жыл бұрын
The Pain Train is also the best melee for Demoman in 6v6 in my opinion. For the same reason, 2x capture speed is great, and with the demoman's mobility backcaps are a real possibility. The bullet vulnerability isn't that significant since the Demo dies so easily to Scouts anyways.
@ObamaTron
@ObamaTron 2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t they just give the sun on a stick to pyro and the volcano fragment to scout?
@tigergaj
@tigergaj 3 жыл бұрын
The Earl sweatshirt clip gave me instant dopamine, that album is so good 😭
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
more like some crap songs (sorry)
@muddashucka9743
@muddashucka9743 2 жыл бұрын
The Baby Face's Blaster has never let you outrun your own hitbox. It's just that it let you run so fast most players couldn't land a shot on you.
@pepitobonito
@pepitobonito 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for giving some credit to the Enforcer and to the Amby! They are being called bad even if they are really convenient
@Voonderwaffels
@Voonderwaffels 2 жыл бұрын
2:47 this is a common false fact, no judgement
@OlaftheGreat
@OlaftheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
Let us not forget that the Pain Train has achieved meme status thanks to Soundsmith
@BrownApeYT
@BrownApeYT 3 жыл бұрын
The SMG animation is so epic
@mylles1112
@mylles1112 3 жыл бұрын
I see the shape of the overdose, not saying nothing but is extremely useful to RUN
@slothstudios_
@slothstudios_ 3 жыл бұрын
“speed boost makes it utterly useless” me, with a panic attack, punching people and then pumping them full of lead before they can react: what?
@sankdom4598
@sankdom4598 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact I got an eviction notice with 10k kills on it I thought it would be funny if I got a horrible heavy weapon and got it to a near impossible kill count
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